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Found out the hard way, it met concrete
Phone works fine though
Yep I shattered mine a few weeks ago. Replacement glass is about $50. It's really not that difficult to change. Make sure the glass you buy comes with adhesive attached. That will save a lot of time. Also wear rubber gloves so you don't smudge the inside of the screen.
Did you get it on ebay? Just wondering if the ones from ebay are not just plastic knock-offs
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Found out the hard way, it met concrete
Phone works fine though
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Wow! That looks awful. I guess screen protectors don't really offer much protection. XD
If i did not have screen protection the glass would fly away an i woudl have lcd exposed..... it hit the ground with rhe corner where the camera is anx this part was not covered by the foil... there is actually a small hole there.
I will by another ishieldz after repair for sure!!!!
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I am VERY disappointed at the Atrix's gorilla glass, but I should have known better than to trust marketing. I've managed to scratch two screens in less than three months with zero effort.
The first was by brushing a nearly-blunt knife's edge against it, the second by letting it drop exactly TEN centimeters on a metal table. This is ridiculous, by all the marketing involving it, you would believe it to resist it to anything short of a point-blank shot. Long way from that to knife-rubbing.
and that is why I purchased two phones
No seriously tho where did u buy ur part from? Ebay ?if so is it the same?
It really depends on the angle it falls on. I've dropped mine on concrete once but I had a basic case on and it saved it. Get case guys its worth it try ebay.
Yeah the Gorilla glass is terrible. I have a non Gorilla glass phone and it has no scratches but my Atrix has dozens of tiny hairline scratches all in it. It kills me just to shine it in the sun. I'm wondering if it's really just a film on the glass getting scratched rather than the glass itself though...
completely agree with all of you. the atrix gorilla glass is terrible. I have had 3 iphones and never a scratched screen despite no screen protectors. I am very careful to put it in a pocket with nothing else. I let my slip in the car while putting in the car dock and it slid on the dashboard. picked it up and it has a 2cm long scratch in the middle of the screen that I can feel. this glass stinks.
Folks, you really need to look up the specs on Gorilla glass. It's not indestructible. There is a thread somewhere here from a couple of months back where I posted all the specs, and they are not that fantastic. Better than the regular glass used, sure, but Gorilla is especially susceptible to pressure.
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I am VERY disappointed at the Atrix's gorilla glass, but I should have known better than to trust marketing. I've managed to scratch two screens in less than three months with zero effort.
The first was by brushing a nearly-blunt knife's edge against it, the second by letting it drop exactly TEN centimeters on a metal table. This is ridiculous, by all the marketing involving it, you would believe it to resist it to anything short of a point-blank shot. Long way from that to knife-rubbing.
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So, is this fake? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4qJHNIiXow
I have had three phones with gorilla glass and haven't managed to scratch a single one of them. Brushing agains a knife isn't "zero effort" in our universe.
Am I just crazy lucky then? I've dropped my phone numerous times and the I as of yet don't even have a single scratch on my screen let alone any type of serious cracks. Compared to previous phone screens this thing is indestructible.
I guess next time make sure it hits the concrete with the corner where the front cam is
What sux is that all 40 dollars screens on ebay are not oem parts. Oem is 110
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That doesn't look like a drop as much as it does a slam.
Nope. Just a drop..... tried to calibrate a compass... so there was some rotation......
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Im afraid of replacing a screen with a non original one...so I have a bricked spare Atrix for pieces...lol
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I managed to have mine fly out of my hand as I took it out of my pocket and it fell right onto concrete from like three feet. And of course it was the day that I didn't want to put it in the case. No scratches or shattered glass on the Gorilla Glass, just some scuffs and dings on the battery cover. I got another battery cover from Motorola for free and you can't even tell I dropped it. Works fine. Definitely got lucky. My wife dropped her iPhone 3GS in a parking lot and it totally shattered.
Hmmm.....I understand that Gorilla glass isn't indestructible, but it sure is pretty scratch resistant IMO. I am in a trade that my hands are dirty pretty often and I have yet to have a single scratch on my screen. I am still pretty impressed overall with the screens. My Captivate was the same way.
The picture from the OP shows that it took a hit in the corner, probably the most vulnerable (and probably common) place for it to break. Any phone would suffer the same fate. (unless you have a good case of course).
Not complaining... It was my clumsiness. $36.54 plus shipping for OEM part replacement from these ppl:
http://myworld.ebay.ca/usmobileparts/?_trksid=p4340.l2559
ok guys i really need some advice, i have had my phone for 4 days i have been very careful with it waiting for my otterbox case to be sent out. i have not dropped it one time and it has about 6 small scratches on it in which 1 is deep enough to actually feel with my finger nail. i dont keep it near my keys at all and it kept in my side pocket with nothing else touching it. please help
*UPDATE*
Contacted best buy (where i bought the phone) i was told by a best buy rep that i could exchange the phone for another one within the 30 day period
THANK GOD!!!!
If you have a Ghost Armor kiosk by you, i would get their screen protector. I had hairline scratches on my One X, and the Ghost Armor fills in the scratches when they put it on. That should mask it for you.
Maybe you have a ghost that prefers HTC. Yup, like he said, get some ghost armor.
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thats not the point though, gorilla glass is scratch resistant meaning it cant be scratched. there is videos of people on youtube stabbing their s3 with a knife and it not scratching
maybe its suicidal and was trying to cut itself.
Phone has gorilla glass, you came into contact with something to scratch it...even old school screens weren't THAT easy to scratch.
sucks, but be more careful and maybe get a screen protector before making wild accusations.
and since when does scratch resistant mean scratch PROOF ?
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thats not the point though, gorilla glass is scratch resistant meaning it cant be scratched. there is videos of people on youtube stabbing their s3 with a knife and it not scratching
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Scratch resistant does not mean scratch PROOF. Sand will reek havoc on glass screens, gorilla glass included.
Scratch resistant is not scratch proof. Drag anything harder than it across and it will scratch.
its been in my pocket all day..... i dont even live near sand hahaha. i mean should i demand a new one? or just enjoy the scratch for the next 2 years.....
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thats not the point though, gorilla glass is scratch resistant meaning it cant be scratched. there is videos of people on youtube stabbing their s3 with a knife and it not scratching
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So you're saying out of the millions of devices produced, you got the ONE device without gorilla glass? I'd say it's much more likely it came into contact with sand or something similar.
And no, scratch resistant doesn't mean it can't be scratched. It means it's resistant to scratches, not impervious.
edit: wow, beat to the punch super fast lol.
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So you're saying out of the millions of devices produced, you got the ONE device without gorilla glass? I'd say it's much more likely it came into contact with sand or something similar.
And no, scratch resistant doesn't mean it can't be scratched. It means it's resistant to scratches, not impervious.
edit: wow, beat to the punch super fast lol.
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Sometimes it can be faulty. My Asus Transformer Prime had faulty gorilla glass, even the cleaning cloth that came with it caused scratches. Took it to Best Buy and the CSR who was trying to teach me to use a cleaning cloth scratched the screen. Got it rma'd and not a single scratch after 5 months. Worth the effort to see if you can get it replaced.
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Awesome, so i just got off the phone with samsung and they said they havent had any known issues about this but they have had faulty gorilla glass in the past. She wanted me to send the phone in they would replace it. but i really dont want to not have a phone for 10 business days. im going to contact best buy and see what they can do for me
How the hell could we help?
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I carry my phone in my pocket. I've carried it in my pocket wrapped in a microfiber towel since I got in last Friday. My wife laughed at me as she knows how I am with my electronics. Luckily, my SGP screen protectors showed up today. I got it installed and am glad I was able to make it without any scratches. I know, sick dude.
I'm in the same boat as you. The first day I got my phone I got a scratch about an inch long and I wasn't carrying it around with me or anything cause I didn't activate it. I wanted to get a screen saver before I got it activated. So as soon as sprint gets some in stock I'm gonna take it in and see what they can do for me.
I never used a screen protector with my infuse , I would shove tools in the same pocket , screw drivers , pliers etc... not a single scratch. Though the infuse had gg1. I won't be as careless with my sgs 3 for a while though.
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If you carry a phone in your pocket without protection, you're asking for trouble. You might go a long period of time with no problems, but all it takes is for one day, you have a grain of sand in your pocket and voila...a scratch.
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thats not the point though, gorilla glass is scratch resistant meaning it cant be scratched. there is videos of people on youtube stabbing their s3 with a knife and it not scratching
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I must have not paid attention to English class, cause I swear that being resistant to something doesn't mean it's immune to something...
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I must have not paid attention to English class, cause I swear that being resistant to something doesn't mean it's immune to something...
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Must have failed Earth Science class/science class as well.
If a object is harder it won't be scratched by a softer object EVER.. But silca in sand is harder then the glass and will scratch it.
Pictures or it didn't happen
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Must have failed Earth Science class/science class as well.
If a object is harder it won't be scratched by a softer object EVER.. But silca in sand is harder then the glass and will scratch it.
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but doesnt melted silica make glass?????????????
Mind = blown.... :cyclops::good:
If you own an S3 you might want to see this, you will be much more relaxed about your S3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie1g4WZJdO4&feature=g-upl
As fasr as I know crystal is harder than steel on the moss scale, he should test it woth sand
Hilarious!....poor cat! What impressed me was that he was hitting the screen quite hard with a very small contact point and quite heavy knives and it didn't break, and he dropped it from quite a height!
yeah gorilla glass 2 seems to be quite the thing :>
a lot of people moan about screen cracks when they drop phone, but if you drop a piece of glass it will break if it lands on a stone or something similar, the point of gg2 is scratch resistance, I think I'm going to try one of those tempered glass screen protectors when they iron out the small flaws in it....the customer service guy on the accessories thread is brilliant
Ive been running without screen protector for 1 month and I dont have a single scratch, not a single one. I do have a Diztronic case though
This video is great, but I still managed to put a 1cm scratch across mine at 2 days old, simply by placing it face down on my bedside table.
Knives vs bedside table, now I know which is more dangerous!
The magic is in the wipe lol. But i will be getting mine this week and its nice to know it will hold up to more abuse that he will get in my pocket ^^
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TimmyRaa said:
This video is great, but I still managed to put a 1cm scratch across mine at 2 days old, simply by placing it face down on my bedside table.
Knives vs bedside table, now I know which is more dangerous!
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Did you accidentally put it on your girlfriends diamond ring?
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Sand can scratch the screen very easily. I've learned it the hard way
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Better to have screen protector.
That guy sounds like guy on FPSrussia youtube videos
These screen test are crap who carries a large army knife around in there pocket with there phone if you do you must have big pockets and why don't they try it with sandpaper see what that does
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These screen test are crap who carries a large army knife around in there pocket with there phone if you do you must have big pockets and why don't they try it with sandpaper see what that does
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Anger issue?
im not so impressed with the Go Rilla Glass2....i have no screen protector but have the Otterbox case with a lip so that the glass never rest on anything.....but i have plenty of micro scratches all over the screen.......From what?
the only thing that i clean it with a micro fiber cloth....WTF needless to say i will be braking it and getting a replacement for this super sensative ass screen.
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Ive been running without screen protector for 1 month and I dont have a single scratch, not a single one. I do have a Diztronic case though
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I wear a screen protector but not for scratch reasons more for shock proofing.
That little bit of plastic on the screen is likely to absorb a little impact when it falls or gets bumped. Its a bit like those people that put a sticky tape x on their window during violent storms. This glass may be hard, but it can definitely be tougher.
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I wear a screen protector but not for scratch reasons more for shock proofing.
That little bit of plastic on the screen is likely to absorb a little impact when it falls or gets bumped. Its a bit like those people that put a sticky tape x on their window during violent storms. This glass may be hard, but it can definitely be tougher.
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Thats not to stop the glass from braking.......that to stop the glass from flying around in that violent storm. as its taped together giving it more weight as a whole instead of small shards everywhere.
so i dont think the protector helps the screen from shattering. just my OP
The glass on our phones are harder than carbon steel.. So it's a no brainer.
But would like to see him use a little rock or some sand, it will funk up the screen..
Get a screen protector, gorilla glass is over rated.
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buljo said:
The glass on our phones are harder than carbon steel.. So it's a no brainer.
But would like to see him use a little rock or some sand, it will funk up the screen..
Get a screen protector, gorilla glass is over rated.
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That guy sounds like guy on FPSrussia youtube videos
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yes, he does
I've got a ton of scratches that are pretty deep all over my Nexus 4 that have been appearing since I got the phone. My last phone was an Atrix and after dropping it a few times I never cared to take that good of care with it and it has only very small scratches, none of which near as deep as the scratches I've been getting on the N4 which I take extremely good care of. I was one of the first to receive the Nexus 4. Is it possible that I got a bad phone or has the whole "bad batch" thing just been tossed around? I'm thinking of calling Google and asking but I would like input before that. Maybe I'd prevent wasting someones time... but if this thing really is defective in some way I would like a replacement.
I have the same problem as you. I've only dropped the thing once and I've always stored it in a pocket alone and yet I have tons of scratches all over. So much for gorilla glass. Let me know if you do call what the results are!
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The front of mine is still perfect after two weeks. The back has the protector on still and somehow there is a scratch near the camera.... I'm worried about taking it off until I get my case. Here in Toronto the only way to get a case for it is online shopping... My original case order was cancelled and I got scammed in the process so I had to order a new one that'll come in about a month -_-
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Seriously? You're gonna call Google and tell them what? You scratched your phone...not Google -_-… they didn't make the glass.
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Serious_Beans said:
Seriously? You're gonna call Google and tell them what? You scratched your phone...not Google -_-… they didn't make the glass.
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Did you read the post? Yeah I'll call them out if I get enough people saying they think it could be defective. I've seen a couple threads where people were saying they sent it back for scratches. I'm pretty much asking if people think there was a chance of actually having a defective device and if so could the glass be effected by that.
Glass is glass. It isn't a defect in your phone, you've just had bad luck with the phone and probably sand or other fine particles coming into contact with it.
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i noticed scratches the 2nd day of use so i called Google and they sent me a replacement
1. It's glass. A single speck of sand will scratch it. It's glass.
2. Because it is glass, you would have been wise to invest $6 in a noninvasive front and back body skin to protect it. You don't think you need it, until you realize you did.
3. It isn't defective and Google won't help you.
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1. It's glass. A single speck of sand will scratch it. It's glass.
2. Because it is glass, you would have been wise to invest $6 in a noninvasive front and back body skin to protect it. You don't think you need it, until you realize you did.
3. It isn't defective and Google won't help you.
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1. You didn't have to say "its glass" twice
2. I purchased many different screen protectors and all of them where very annoying. This screen was especially designed to be super smooth and it is super oleophobic. Why ruin the experience with a screen protector?
3. I've heard of people saying that they could be defective and scratched too easily so and they even got an RMA. The person above you seems to have gotten one for the screen scratching. I have had cheap phones that I have taken horrible care of that have no scratches on their screen. I have also heard of people taking awful car of their nexus 4 and talking about how durable it was and how it still has no scratches. I've babbied this thing and had a screen protector on it through November to middle December. This all leads me to believe tat something is not right with the screen.
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As you say yourself, the glass on the Nexus 4 is meant to be oleophobic, which means that the glass is covered with an oleophobic coating, which scratches more easily than glass would. You just have to be even more careful with it.
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Chrono_Tata said:
As you say yourself, the glass on the Nexus 4 is meant to be oleophobic, which means that the glass is covered with an oleophobic coating, which scratches more easily than glass would. You just have to be even more careful with it.
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What? The Oleophobic layer is what makes it more scratch resistant. Friction is what causes scratches and if there's less friction then it lessens the possibility of scratches.
I swear people like to talk crazy stuff sometimes. I've had my phone for over a month now (ordered Nov 27 and received Dec 6th). The back of my device is perfectly scratch free now and i'm pretty gentle with my device as well. Dunno wtf you people are doing with your phones but I have no case or anything either and it's perfect still.
Err, no. The oleophobic layer is made of softer material than glass, so obviously it's going to scratch easier. Making something more slippery doesn't make it less easy to scratch.
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Umm NO, here's the word straight from the horses mouth:
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/sites/all/files/COR_GG_WhtPaper_Easy-to-Clean.pdf
Go to page 4.
Abrasion Resistance
Scratch resistance was found to be an added benefit of the easy-to-clean coating on Corning Gorilla Glass. Test samples
comprising 1/2 coated and 1/2 non-coated regions were tested by wiping across both surface areas with 150 grit silicon carbide
sand paper, using the crock meter, for 40 passes (back and forth) at ~1.5 PSI. Surfaces were then tested for haze to determine the
degree in which optical appearance of scratches was mitigated. Figure 3 shows an optical photo of such a sample, exhibiting
significant scratching on the non-coated region whereas few visible scratches exist on the coating. Figure 4 demonstrates this
effect further, plotting haze for coated and non-coated glass regions and for chemically strengthened soda-lime glass.Test
conditions also showed a significant benefit for Corning Gorilla Glass over soda-lime glass (50-60% improvement), and further
benefit for the easy-to-clean coating (additional >75%).
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ADDING the oleophobic coating helps the glass to be more scratch resistant as well as the fingerprints and all that jazz too. Gorilla glass itself is tough but adding that layer helps protect the surface of the Gorilla Glass making it more scratch resistant.
If you want more info, go look up XDA TV and learn something or 2 as well. There was a girl (forget her name now) that explained gorilla glass for her Note 2 device in which she mentioned this as well with more details.
Ahhh found her, it's Erica:
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...ass-drops-tests-composition-xda-developer-tv/
OP, I agree that we shouldn't have to ruin the experience of the phone for the sake of everyday use. I've never had screen protectors and very rarely get scratches while living a fairly active lifestyle.
So far I've not had any scratches on the screen, even cycling with the phone in my pocket. I have been happy with the scratch resistance so far and would compare it to other phones of similar quality.
The back glass has not held up nearly as well, despite sharing the same pocket/conditions. I have a few hairline scratches, particularly over the nexus logo and unfortunately over the camera. My guess is that this happens while pulling the phone in/out of pocket and that is why they are clustered over the logo area.
I'm not sure how much a call to Google will do, can there be quality problems with glass that would cause some to scratch worse than others? QA issues causing breaking seem more likely. To answer your question though, I've not been babying the phone (well, maybe a little) and don't have a hint of a scratch on the screen after a month.
I don't think you can RMA it for scratches after having it for 2 months but it doesn't hurt to call and all they can do is say no.
I myself have no scratches, I should add yet here, and I received mine on November 27th. But it has never seen the inside of my pocket, I bought a belt clip case immediately that it sits in if I'm out and about. IME Pockets are too dangerous as my phones always ended up getting scratched in my pocket because I dropped change in there or put my keys in there by mistake.
I did finally put a screen protector (skinomi) on the front after about a month but I'm not happy with it, it does ever so slightly ruin the experience especially since it is too soft and gets marks in it and it has a dull look to it. But I'm being more than anal about watching out for scratches with this phone as it was an investment. Eventually I'm sure I won't give as **** anymore and start treating it like any other phone but right now paying $400 for a phone still stings a little.
Thanks for the links and I stand corrected. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, most users found that the display tends to get scratched more than other non-oleophobic glass so it was just generally assumed that the coating was the culprit. Obviously from Corning's documents this isn't the case with Gorilla Glass and their oleophobic coating.
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I've got a ton of scratches that are pretty deep all over my Nexus 4 that have been appearing since I got the phone. My last phone was an Atrix and after dropping it a few times I never cared to take that good of care with it and it has only very small scratches, none of which near as deep as the scratches I've been getting on the N4 which I take extremely good care of. I was one of the first to receive the Nexus 4. Is it possible that I got a bad phone or has the whole "bad batch" thing just been tossed around? I'm thinking of calling Google and asking but I would like input before that. Maybe I'd prevent wasting someones time... but if this thing really is defective in some way I would like a replacement.
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Take better care of your phone and it won't get scratched
VoiD_Dweller said:
Take better care of your phone and it won't get scratched
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+1 ... haven't dropped or scratched my phone. Using a bumper and a rearth slim for the first couple of days of having it.
hope i didnt jinx myself just now
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Take better care of your phone and it won't get scratched
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So did you read the post? That's exactly my point, I do take really good care of it. Now (again go read my posts) I did have an Atrix before this phone and tossed it around quite a bit and it has hardly any scratches that are as deep as the ones on the nexus. The only scratches it has are around the edge and can only be seen in the sunlight. I owned the Atrix for almost two years and never had a screen protector for it. I've owned this phone for only months, and its only gone one month without a screen protector. It seems new scratches appear each week and I'm doing everything to prevent them. It just makes no since why it would be collecting so many scratches in just a small amount of time.
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I don't think you can RMA it for scratches after having it for 2 months but it doesn't hurt to call and all they can do is say no.
I myself have no scratches, I should add yet here, and I received mine on November 27th. But it has never seen the inside of my pocket, I bought a belt clip case immediately that it sits in if I'm out and about. IME Pockets are too dangerous as my phones always ended up getting scratched in my pocket because I dropped change in there or put my keys in there by mistake.
I did finally put a screen protector (skinomi) on the front after about a month but I'm not happy with it, it does ever so slightly ruin the experience especially since it is too soft and gets marks in it and it has a dull look to it. But I'm being more than anal about watching out for scratches with this phone as it was an investment. Eventually I'm sure I won't give as **** anymore and start treating it like any other phone but right now paying $400 for a phone still stings a little.
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Just so you know, neither keys or pocket change will scratch your phone, its sand and the glass particles in dust you want to worry about.
Looks like Gorilla Glass on Axon 7 is not tough enough, I broker my screen this weekend. Was in museum and phone fell from my hand onto a wooden floor of museum, and screen is shattered. Although it is functional and working, the screen glass is broken. I think I'm bit less impressed with the screen toughness of this thing. A phone fell from hand roughly 5 feet above ground, onto a floor and it shatters the glass. Am I covered by Axon 2 year warranty on this one or I need to get it fixed on my own ?
My wife's S7 edge fell a foot and the screen shattered in 2 places. The worst piece of **** I've seen.
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Always get a tempered glass protector!
rikin93 said:
Always get a tempered glass protector!
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lmao, thx to 2.5d glass there arent any fitting ones yet
mjoshi123 said:
Looks like Gorilla Glass on Axon 7 is not tough enough, I broker my screen this weekend. Was in museum and phone fell from my hand onto a wooden floor of museum, and screen is shattered. Although it is functional and working, the screen glass is broken. I think I'm bit less impressed with the screen toughness of this thing. A phone fell from hand roughly 5 feet above ground, onto a floor and it shatters the glass. Am I covered by Axon 2 year warranty on this one or I need to get it fixed on my own ?
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A five foot fall onto a wooden floor would crack most screens unless the phone was in a rugged case.
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A five foot fall onto a wooden floor would crack most screens unless the phone was in a rugged case.
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Agreed. It's "GLASS", not iron. And hard glass is difficult to scratch but is brittle. Do people not understand hardness? Lol
The harder a substance is the more difficult it is to scratch but also the harder something is the more brittle it is.
Tungsten is a very hard metal... But people don't realize if you drop a pure tungsten ring it most likely will shatter. Same concept.
If you want glass that isn't super brittle it will scratch easier. If you want glass that won't scratch it will be brittle. Until we find some kind of super glass this is how it will be.
That's pretty much result as expected.....
You can RMA but they probably charge you a deductible as it would consider an accident.
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Agreed. It's "GLASS", not iron. And hard glass is difficult to scratch but is brittle. Do people not understand hardness? Lol
The harder a substance is the more difficult it is to scratch but also the harder something is the more brittle it is.
Tungsten is a very hard metal... But people don't realize if you drop a pure tungsten ring it most likely will shatter. Same concept.
If you want glass that isn't super brittle it will scratch easier. If you want glass that won't scratch it will be brittle. Until we find some kind of super glass this is how it will be.
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Pure tungsten is ductile. polycrystalline tungsten is brittle.
Interesting, I'm seeing tests on youtube for iPhone 6s and Galaxy Edge being drop tested without any major issue from as high as 10-12 feet. I will RMA it with ZTE but was surprised about it not surviving it this little fall.
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Interesting, I'm seeing tests on youtube for iPhone 6s and Galaxy Edge being drop tested without any major issue from as high as 10-12 feet. I will RMA it with ZTE but was surprised about it not surviving it this little fall.
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Much of it depends on the angle of impact. I know several people who have cracked their Galaxy Edges on fairly benign drops. Almost everybody I know with an iPhone (not that many) have at least one crack in the screen, but since it doesn't impair usage they often just keep on using the phone.
kidnova said:
Much of it depends on the angle of impact.
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Exactly. A drop is not a drop and the angle is much more important than the height.
imp3r10 said:
Pure tungsten is ductile. polycrystalline tungsten is brittle.
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Never heard about that nor learned about it in college, but that's also probably one of the reasons I stopped going because they don't really teach you anything nowadays. Anyway I digress, the harder a substance is the more brittle it will become.
I mean look at Diamonds, the hardest substance known to man and yet it can be shattered quite easily
interesting comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU8S_BjByKU
People don't understand Gorilla Glass. It's not about how strong it is, but how scratch resistant. And believe me, Gorilla Glass 4 is REALLY scratch resistant. Everyone could possible break when dropped on a wooden floor.
Do you come under the 6 month screen repair?
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keessonnema said:
People don't understand Gorilla Glass. It's not about how strong it is, but how scratch resistant. And believe me, Gorilla Glass 4 is REALLY scratch resistant. Everyone could possible break when dropped on a wooden floor.
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Which is why I'm glad the Axon 7 uses it instead of the easily scratched Gorilla Glass 5. I don't care in the least about shatter resistant, I don't drop my phones, ever. However I do want to be able to use my phone without an oil magnet (aka screen protector) so it's super important to me that it be scratch resistant as possible. That's why I'm hoping there will eventually be sapphire screens (though it seems unlikely). I was pleasantly surprised to hear that the A7's camera lens is covered by sapphire.
Seeing as how the Axon 7 design is very similar to the htc one m8, this gripe is justified, if you ask me. The lack of edge to edge glass creates a buffer between the corners of the phone and the edge of the glass. I dropped my htc one m8 flat on concrete, more than once, and not a scratch. I was hoping the Axon 7 would have the same type of durability.
gorilla glass is not shatterproof just like Moto Droid turbo 2/X force/Z force . these phones have such a great shatterproof glass. have a look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V2r_9Um2Tw
All of these iphone screens are cracked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFUlz_BTby8
ankithonda said:
gorilla glass is not shatterproof just like Moto Droid turbo 2/X force/Z force . these phones have such a great shatterproof glass. have a look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V2r_9Um2Tw
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That is not shatter proof "glass" it's plastic. I know because I just sold one.