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Best T-Mobile Phone to Tether With Nexus 7

Hello all. First this forum has been great giving me info on my new Nexus 7. Even problems to look out for (that I haven't had yet, knock on wood).
Right now I have an original Droid that I had added via a dealer under the table on MetroPCS via Hodini. It works "okay" and had it awhile. The problem is, even with the custom PRLs and tweaking via CDMA Workshop, I only get 100-400kbps in a so called 3G Metro city.
I really think T-Mobile's 'Walmart' deal is the best way to go. Even 100 minutes of talk is enough for me, and if not ill do the GVoice to Chat route trick.
So the issue is I blew all my money from the sell of my original iPad to get this 16GB Nexus (plus some beer). I can probably soon muster around $100, maybe $125. Can u recommend a decent android phone around this price thats just a step up than my droid in speed, but I know I won't be getting a Nexus for this. Mainly something that I can do good battery time for WiFi share, or a phone known for good Bluetooth sharing reliability so I won't be using so much battery?
Reason I want this cause as you all know the Nexus 7 is pretty gimped without Internet. I really wish Google / ASUS made a 3G or 4G version, I would of bought that in a second, even if it was $100 or $150 more.
Thanks in Advance!

Nexus S: Still worth getting?

HTC Thunderbolt user here. I have an upgrade with Verizon in the coming month, but I'm considering leaving my line on the family plan to a sibling and getting a GSM phone with tmobile bands. Would you guys say a used Nexus S is still a good buy, or should I just jumo to the Galaxy Nexus? Can't convince myself that both extending my contract and getting the gimped VZW GNex right now though. Anyway, if you could share your opinions, I'd appriciate it. Thank you.

armada786 said:
HTC Thunderbolt user here. I have an upgrade with Verizon in the coming month, but I'm considering leaving my line on the family plan to a sibling and getting a GSM phone with tmobile bands. Would you guys say a used Nexus S is still a good buy, or should I just jumo to the Galaxy Nexus? Can't convince myself that both extending my contract and getting the gimped VZW GNex right now though. Anyway, if you could share your opinions, I'd appriciate it. Thank you.
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Wait til October when Google releases the new Nexus Devices.
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Exit_Only said:
Wait til October when Google releases the new Nexus Devices.
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I thought it was November?

Exit_Only said:
Wait til October when Google releases the new Nexus Devices.
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Unless Google offers it at $350 also, probably priced out of what I can really afford. Though maybe it'd bring the GNex price down. Good advice. Oct/Nov is when my upgrade is anyway so I can decide then.

My 2 cents
The Nexus S is a fine phone, depending what you planning on doing with it. I would not recommend purchasing on a contract, but as an interim phone it should work great.
I personally found that I rarely used my phone as, you know, a phone and began resenting paying a high price for talk time I was barely using (Sprint). So I purchased a Nexus S off of ebay and use it strictly as a voip sourced phone using VOX over wifi.
To fill my need for a larger screen I picked up a Galaxy Tab (only $50) and use a 2 gig data plan with Verizon for $30/mo for when wifi not available as it comes with built in tethering. Though as an after thought I am wishing I went with the T Mobile 100/min and 5gig for $30/mo. The size of the Nexus S works in my particular case and easily upgrades to even JB so I am a happy flasher.
The Nexus S works great for a phone to have some fun while waiting for that next great thing, but might disappoint over the long haul against some of the current and upcoming monster phones.

If you're buying 2nd hand, I'd say GN is worth the extra 100$(€) difference.

Hi,
I had a Nexus S for years and, this phone ils absolutely perfect except two things.
No MHL compatibility: You can't put your screen phone on a TV or anything else..
No notification LED: I couldn't live without it after switching from x10 mini pro to Nexus S.
Last advice, if you get Nexus S, try installing SlimICS + Holo Launcher HD for a 2/3 day battery life by enabling the phone to only receive calls when the screen is off. (You can add things like sync every hours or such).
If you also want MHL, check for Samqung Galaxy S II.

It all depends on what you want. I like the size of the Nexus S. Its bigger than an iPhone, but way more portable than a Galaxy S3. The hardware is still decent. It runs JB just fine. Battery life is very good too.
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Tmobile has been cheap and a definite carrier upgrade to ATT in my area.
I want real carrier and phone upgrades instead of incremental ones.
In your situation I'd wait for the Oct/Nov release to make the switch.
My Nexus S has been a 99.99% solid companion since it's release in 2010.
I've had power button issues randomly for the past week but the JRO03L update seems to have fixed it.
I've enjoyed carrier and handset stability that's noticeable compared to my friends.
I've watched my Verizon buddies complain about "normal" use killing charge ad nauseum.
I've listened to my Sprint buddies complain about absent ROM support for phones that drove them nuts.
My ATT buddies, well the service still seems to have the same call quality issues I had years ago.
Hopefully my next upgrade will serve me as long and as well until the next jump in carrier bandwidth becomes a must-have.

Mine is a champ. No plan to upgrade when my contract is up.
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Nexus S is still great phone and I will keep mine for long time. I will rather buy tablet then new phone.

xAyla said:
Hi,
I had a Nexus S for years and, this phone ils absolutely perfect except two things.
No MHL compatibility: You can't put your screen phone on a TV or anything else..
No notification LED: I couldn't live without it after switching from x10 mini pro to Nexus S.
Last advice, if you get Nexus S, try installing SlimICS + Holo Launcher HD for a 2/3 day battery life by enabling the phone to only receive calls when the screen is off. (You can add things like sync every hours or such).
If you also want MHL, check for Samqung Galaxy S II.
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Not my plan to derail the thread, but you can use BLN technology to make the softkeys at the bottom flash or light up whenever you get a notification. Acts pretty much the same as a notification LED. Been available for over a year too.

It's okay unless you play vidya a lot on your phone.

No it's not worth getting now. It's a 2 year old phone and as good as it has been it's showing its age. It's struggling with the latest roms, very laggy and slow and battery performance isn't good. I'm rooted, running a nightly cache cleaner and occasional wipes and its still slow. Contract is up this week and its a toss up between the sgs3 and hox. Favoring the sgs3 on performance but the hox it's 5 quid cheaper every month. Not considering the nexus as I frankly find the nexus line boring.
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nexus s is still nice to use. almost roms are support galaxy nexus and nexus s basically
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wait a bit
I'm in the same boat as you and advise waiting a bit till this winter or spring to see how all the new hardware and prices shake out. quad core is the ideal android environment.

No. Ex-Nexus S user here. Just broke my phone a month ago and switched to a 2nd hand Galaxy Nexus. GNex is so much better, and it's not expensive either

Same here.. been using Nexus S.. and still going strong.. I just don't find it economical to change my phone every year or two.. Since I've bought my Nexus S.. it has been a good experience.. plus with all this mods.. I feel like my phone runs faster and smoother.. So I think still good for another year or so.. So if you can get Nexus S cheap.. get it! hehe

I would get a newer phone. The nexus s is outdated man; and plus google is going to release a new phone soon. We're going to be waay behind and things are just gonna get slower for us I think. No matter how many roms we flash to see if we can speed stuff up; its gonna get slower and slower. That's just how technology is; it gets faster and faster and if the older stuff cant keep up, it dies out

If you can find one under $100 get it now jelly bean really makes it fly
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A phone for tetering

I recently just bought the nexus 7 and I totally regret laughing at those silly people on the train holding their 7 inch because I am now one of them. This thing is godsend. But I recently sold my phone and I am now looking for a phone just to tether to my nexus 7. Do you guys tether on the go or pine for a free WiFi?
At first I wanted phone that can tether my 3g network comfortably without freezing up when I receive a message on my phone.
But after I tried a lte enabled s3 in one of the hand phone shops I'm now sold. . I'm looking to purchase the iPhone 5 just to tether and message because it is idiot proof.
So what do you guys use to tether? And what do you think of getting a iPhone 5 just for tethering? Because android has really bad tethering apart from HTC and its WiFi hotspot app which rocks.
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lqrt said:
I recently just bought the nexus 7 and I totally regret laughing at those silly people on the train holding their 7 inch because I am now one of them. This thing is godsend. But I recently sold my phone and I am now looking for a phone just to tether to my nexus 7. Do you guys tether on the go or pine for a free WiFi?
At first I wanted phone that can tether my 3g network comfortably without freezing up when I receive a message on my phone.
But after I tried a lte enabled s3 in one of the hand phone shops I'm now sold. . I'm looking to purchase the iPhone 5 just to tether and message because it is idiot proof.
So what do you guys use to tether? And what do you think of getting a iPhone 5 just for tethering? Because android has really bad tethering apart from HTC and its WiFi hotspot app which rocks.
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Listen, I wouldn't get a iPhone, (My opinion). They are way over priced in the first place, let alone just for tethering and messaging. 2nd, Apple totally locks you down, so you will regret getting an iPhone if your a tech enthusiast.
As you said, HTC tethering is amazing, and I have never had a single issue tethering my HTC One X to my N7, and to be honest, it feels broadband speed. I'm not saying you should get a HTC One X (YES YOU SHOULD!!!) but as you said , HTC are great for tethering, so I would have a look at your HTC options my friend, + the N7 and HTC are like husband and wife.

I sold the one x I didn't really like it maybe because it was just so good. There wasn't anything I could do to tweak it haha. Viper x was awesome though.
I wannptntontether easily and message easily and I need quick compose which none of the android apps have.. jail breaking bite SMS and tether is all I need. One more thing I am sick of changing Roms cause of my itchy hands and iphones can stay on one released for ages once it stabilises
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Android are actually WAY better for tethering, at least the ones I have used have been (Xperia Arc S, Xperia S, HTC Desire).
The best bit? Tethering on Android is invisible to the network provider, but on iphone, they can tell and charge you for tethering.
I wouldn't get an Iphone5 anyway, it's last-years Android specs for double the money.

phhhh... galaxy nexus end of story!
built-in tether works fantastic, no third party or hacking required
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa

My telco doesn't care whether I tether over in Singapore.
Geekbench score wins the best android phones out there now though.
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CrazyPeter said:
Android are actually WAY better for tethering, at least the ones I have used have been (Xperia Arc S, Xperia S, HTC Desire).
The best bit? Tethering on Android is invisible to the network provider, but on iphone, they can tell and charge you for tethering.
I wouldn't get an Iphone5 anyway, it's last-years Android specs for double the money.
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Agree with everything.

skyrocket727 said:
phhhh... galaxy nexus end of story!
built-in tether works fantastic, no third party or hacking required
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
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$700 in Singapore lol
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I'm totally confused here.. You don't want Android because it's too good, do you want a ****ty phone?
Anywho, just get an Android phone with 4.x, use bluetooth tethering. It uses very little power and you don't even have to fiddle with it, once you pair and enable BT Tether you don't have to do anything else, don't have to turn it on and off when you want to use it, etc, and when it's idle it uses almost zero power.
And BTW, it's okay to hold your 7 inch on the train? Creepy.

I tried to Bluetooth tether using the one x but it didn't work. Its paired but the connection couldn't be shared even though it says it is available mow
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use gmate to tether message and phone..it cam support dual sim as well..just search in google for gmate skyroam..
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lqrt said:
I tried to Bluetooth tether using the one x but it didn't work. Its paired but the connection couldn't be shared even though it says it is available mow
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I assume you enabled Bluetooth Tethering? It's not on by default, and it turns off on every reboot, although there is an app in the market to enable it boot.
On JB, ICS is similar... Settings->More->Tethering->Bluetooth Tethering
kickmobile said:
use gmate to tether message and phone..it cam support dual sim as well..just search in google for gmate skyroam..
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Not necessary on 4.x

lqrt said:
$700 in Singapore lol
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$300 on swappa.com for mint condition galaxy nexus. Bought mine on there and could not be happier.

[Q] Using nexus 4 without cellular service?

Hey all,
I debating on getting a Nexus 4 (when they are available again), but I want to use the device without signing up for cellular service, you know no data plan and voice plan. I know this is probably ridiculous because most people buy a phone to use it as a phone, but I don't want a phone and don't want to place my money into restrictive apple products (e.g., ipod touch). So can I buy the phone without signing up for prepaid or contract services? I don't need to activate the phone if I'm not using it as a phone, right, thus turning the phone into a ipod touch (but better than the ipod). Has anyone successfully done this?
Cheers,
Dillweed

yes

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yes
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Yes to your yes

I am almost in the same boat as you are. I am trying to get the Nexus 4 as a complete android device for the possible feartures/uses of such a device. I will be using it for a phone but I will be using it as a wifi phone with Groove IP. The Nexus 4 is the only small device to have such a good screen and the android experience with such a fantastic price. I have been doing a lot of research and I am totally convinced that I will be able to use the Nexus 4 without a sim card so no carrier at all. Glad to see someone else thinking the same way.

Have you considered buying Nexus 7 instead? It's pocket able. You will be saving 100 dollars.
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donec said:
I am almost in the same boat as you are. I am trying to get the Nexus 4 as a complete android device for the possible feartures/uses of such a device. I will be using it for a phone but I will be using it as a wifi phone with Groove IP. The Nexus 4 is the only small device to have such a good screen and the android experience with such a fantastic price. I have been doing a lot of research and I am totally convinced that I will be able to use the Nexus 4 without a sim card so no carrier at all. Glad to see someone else thinking the same way.
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I can confirm it will work just fine without a cellular plan too. I used mine for about a day that way then decided to go with a Straight Talk plan.
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I used a smartphone for a year with a simple minutes/text only plan. Pretty cheap.
I would look for a nexus 7 though tbh
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Get the nexus 7
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Yeah Nexus 7 seems like a lot better choice.
7" is pretty small
And as stated above, much cheaper. Also in stock
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Thanks for the information everyone!
I've thought about getting a Nexus 7, but I want something that I can easily fit into my pocket. Like I said before, I'm currently using an ipod touch, but I don't like the restrictive nature of iOS. The Nexus 4 seems like the best phone out there right now that is unlocked and can be purchased without a contract.

dillweed said:
Thanks for the information everyone!
I've thought about getting a Nexus 7, but I want something that I can easily fit into my pocket. Like I said before, I'm currently using an ipod touch, but I don't like the restrictive nature of iOS. The Nexus 4 seems like the best phone out there right now that is unlocked and can be purchased without a contract.
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It is. The phone can definitely be used as an iPod Touchesque device, but with a bigger screen, Android, etc.
The thing is, do you want to sacrifice the ability to put in your pocket (not portability) for much larger screen, cheaper pricetag, and larger storage?
Technically, you would be using the Nexus 4 as a tablet, so why not get a Nexus 7 instead?
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In addition to that.. Why not just jailbreak your iPod and save some money?
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I'm hesitant to get the Nexus 7 because it's just easier to carry a smaller device.
And yea, my ipod is jailbroken. I've had for a couple of years now and it's time to upgrade and give the ipod to the kids. I'm not in the market for more apple products, yes they are well built and reliable. I could get a new ipod for the same amount of money and 32gb of space. But then I'm dependent on the devs getting out a jailbreak. It seems that as time goes on the jailbreaks are getting longer to be released after a new iOS is put out. So I wonder how much longer jailbreaking can go on. Yea, everything is hackable, it just takes time. I really like the development of Android and one of the big reasons I would like to get a Nexus 4.
In the end, I really just wanted to know if use of the phone is possible without a contract from a service provider. So, thanks all for the information.

tldr on a lot of this. I wanted to throw a suggestion out there thought. The Samsung Galaxy Player. It's kinda like a smartphone, without the phone.

Should I buy nexus 4 ?

Hello ,
I am thinking of buying the nexus 4 . I love the nexus devices , i have nexus s and 7 .
I don't know if it worths buying it or i should wait till the next model come out .
Is there any other device in production that is better ?
Please let me know your opinion .

The phone is low cost and amazingly fast. Go for it. I got mine from a guy at work for $100 and I love it. It never lags or slows down at all. You won't be disappointed.

jimkaps said:
Hello ,
I am thinking of buying the nexus 4 . I love the nexus devices , i have nexus s and 7 .
I don't know if it worths buying it or i should wait till the next model come out .
Is there any other device in production that is better ?
Please let me know your opinion .
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You can wait for the next nexus, but also keep in mind that it will be sold out very quickly , and you'll have to wait again.. I'd say you won't get your hands on one before dec/jan . so you do the math.
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A little search would've helped.
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Every time I see this question asked, I simply post this quote. If you're thinking about buying it, then buy it. It's worth it.
Johmama said:
The main pros of the Nexus 4 that I keep listing anytime I tell people about it are the following:
1. Price. $350 is pretty much half the price of any other competitor to the Nexus 4
2. Pure Android, updated directly from Google. As soon as a new version of Android is released, it's on the Nexus. Google develops Android FOR this device.
3. Design. Glass front and back, it's a solid phone. Looks sleek.
Now, newly-released phones do have slightly better hardware. But we're getting to the point of diminishing returns. We're packing so much hardware into these devices, you'll hard-pressed to find software that actually makes use of it. I think the only debate you should be having is buy the Nexus 4 now, or wait until the next Nexus comes out, possible during the holidays. That isn't to say this phone won't still be a solid phone then, but I can understand if some people wait to buy updated versions.
To answer your question: yes. It is definitely worth it. At $350, it's fiscally irresponsible NOT to buy a Nexus 4. Right now I'm paying $30/mo for a tablet plan on AT&T with 3gb of data. Having weird and crazy options like that don't seem to happen with other phones. I feel like the Nexus 4 is YOUR phone, not 80% your phone, 20% the manufacturer's.
Spoiler alert: I might be a little biased, but c'mon. It's a sweet phone.
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Whether or not to buy a nexus 4, if you want a serious answer you might want to consider to not post it in N4 section.
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I'd wait for the new Motorola phone, if everything is just a buzz, I'd def get the N4..

Get it if you need a disposable phone. Otherwise save for something good.
And don't buy an N4 while travelling (as I did) because chances are you'll need to RMA it and dealing with LG directly is not fun.

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Every time I see this question asked, I simply post this quote. If you're thinking about buying it, then buy it. It's worth it.
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Your answer take all the things into account . Great.
Thank you to all of you for your immidiate reply . I am still buffling though . It seems that the S4 is a better option .

jimkaps said:
Your answer take all the things into account . Great.
Thank you to all of you for your immidiate reply . I am still buffling though . It seems that the S4 is a better option .
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Speaking of the S4, Last week I was at the mall, at one of those Zagg Kiosk cuz I was going to get an Invisible Shield put on my Nexus 7, but I declined, but he was showing off his Galaxy S4, which seemed pretty nice. Bout 3 days ago, I stopped back by to get the invisible shield put on my Nexus 4 (I could do it myself, but they do a pretty good job getting it on).
After he was done, I inquired about the S4, seeing as I was deciding between a Nexus 4 and something like that. And he mentioned he no longer had his new S4, it was having too many problems and was buggy so he took it back and got an iPhone 5 (eww in my opinion but... interesting that he only had the S4 for a week and decided to take it bag for being buggy and unresponsive).
He did mention he would have gotten an Nexus 4, but he wanted to have something that day, and outside of T-Mobile (which he doesn't use), the carriers did not carry them (otherwise you'd have to order online).

kbeezie said:
Speaking of the S4, Last week I was at the mall, at one of those Zagg Kiosk cuz I was going to get an Invisible Shield put on my Nexus 7, but I declined, but he was showing off his Galaxy S4, which seemed pretty nice. Bout 3 days ago, I stopped back by to get the invisible shield put on my Nexus 4 (I could do it myself, but they do a pretty good job getting it on).
After he was done, I inquired about the S4, seeing as I was deciding between a Nexus 4 and something like that. And he mentioned he no longer had his new S4, it was having too many problems and was buggy so he took it back and got an iPhone 5 (eww in my opinion but... interesting that he only had the S4 for a week and decided to take it bag for being buggy and unresponsive).
He did mention he would have gotten an Nexus 4, but he wanted to have something that day, and outside of T-Mobile (which he doesn't use), the carriers did not carry them (otherwise you'd have to order online).
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Interesting fact . Can you tell me what is the invisible shield ?

jimkaps said:
Interesting fact . Can you tell me what is the invisible shield ?
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It's an extremely thin, extremely durable screen protector that supposed to be pretty much invisible. I've used it on my old iPod Touch, and had it on my Desire-Z for over a year and a half without any problems, and I'm currently using their HD version on my Nexus 4 which retains a glass-like surface and actually seems to improve the color/clarity on the screen.
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/index.php
It can be a chore to apply, so I usually have the kiosk in the malls apply them for me (But they can cost upward to 15$ more than you could order them online just for them to do it). Though I had a more expensive "Write Right" brand protector on there that the t-mobile store put on, and it wasn't even close in quality to the invisible shield (so I took it back to the t-mobile store for a refund, and got the invisible shield instead).

kbeezie said:
It's an extremely thin, extremely durable screen protector that supposed to be pretty much invisible. I've used it on my old iPod Touch, and had it on my Desire-Z for over a year and a half without any problems, and I'm currently using their HD version on my Nexus 4 which retains a glass-like surface and actually seems to improve the color/clarity on the screen.
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/index.php
It can be a chore to apply, so I usually have the kiosk in the malls apply them for me (But they can cost upward to 15$ more than you could order them online just for them to do it). Though I had a more expensive "Write Right" brand protector on there that the t-mobile store put on, and it wasn't even close in quality to the invisible shield (so I took it back to the t-mobile store for a refund, and got the invisible shield instead).
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Cool , I am going to put itin my nexus 7 . So do you think that nexus 4 is the best choice that I have right now ?

jimkaps said:
Cool , I am going to put itin my nexus 7 . So do you think that nexus 4 is the best choice that I have right now ?
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Course bear in mind that my opinion is of course going to be bias'd by the fact that I actually have one . I own both a Nexus 7 and a Nexus 4, my mom owns a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0" which she's content with (she likes the Nexus 7, but wanted a front side camera).
I mainly got the Nexus 4 because for a fully unlocked phone it was inexpensive (plus T-Mobile allowed me to get it at 17/month for 24 month, rather than paying up front for it, so I see it as paying a 60$ interest on a loan that I just pay off each month).
Also like the Nexus 7, the N4 is nearly impossible to brick, easy to unlock, easy to root, comes with a clean AOSP rom already which also has a strong developer community, and because I'm planning on writing android apps down the road I figured what better choice of a phone.
Also The nexus 4, like the Nexus 7 will most likely continue to get android updates to the latest version for the next 2 maybe 3 years since it's made by google (as I recall even the original Nexus One can still officially get Jellybean on it straight from Google). So being able to use the device with the newest android update for the next few years without having to wait on the manufacture to decide if they will was also a plus for me as a developer-oriented buyer.
(HTC kind of burned me on that last bit with my Desire-Z, since the DesireHD was supposed to get 4.0.4/ICS but last minute they pulled it from the list of devices that was getting it, but least quallacom came thru and thus why we have so many jellybean roms for the desire-Z now).
The main two things I would want from the samsung side would be
1) Removable/extendable battery
2) microSD slot.
The one thing I don't like on the samsung... propriety USB/Power cable, why can't they just use microUSB or miniUSB like everyone else... but then again they do tend to mimic Apple to some degree.
#2 isn't as big a deal for the Nexus7 because I can just plug a thumbdrive into it via a USB-OTG cable, if for some reason I needed to copy something or perhaps play a large movie off the thumbdrive). Also the TWRP recovery natively supports USB-OTG so when I do a backup or restore, it can do it directly to/from a thumbdrive, without having to fill space on the device. Nexus 4 can do USB-OTG too, but requires a Y-split cable so you can plug up a portable power pack, since it won't provide power out of it's USB port like the Nexus7 will

I like all the advantages of the nexus devices . I am also starting to develop apps :laugh: see at the signature.
I have an incline on nexus 4 , but I must learn when the next one will be released .
Thanks man your answer is of great use for me ,:victory: