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Simple question for people to have a discussion here if they want.
What will you do with your current baby when the little brother gets released, ie Galaxy S3? Or what will you do with it when you get your next upgrade.
I for one will keep my one as i still think it has a couple of more years in it. Plus my dad loves it so i probably give it to him...He loves his Chuck Norris facts bless him.
Anyway i'd love to find out other people's opinions. Bet no one has thought that far out yet.
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Matriak31 said:
Simple question for people to have a discussion here if they want.
What will you do with your current baby when the little brother gets released, ie Galaxy S3? Or what will you do with it when you get your next upgrade.
I for one will keep my one as i still think it has a couple of more years in it. Plus my dad loves it so i probably give it to him...He loves his Chuck Norris facts bless him.
Anyway i'd love to find out other people's opinions. Bet no one has thought that far out yet.
Enjoy
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Keep it, simple as. My sgs2 is my baby, it's my first ever smartphone and I wouldn't ever get rid of it. In the future I may upgrade, but I'll still keep my sgs2, Maybe buy a frame for it .
I'm never buying a non-Google branded android phone again but. I'll just sell it.
i'll keep mine for the duration of my contract. i'm very happy with it.
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It will be on my desk. Turned on and charged only when there's firmware updates.
Selling my Galaxy S II and getting a Galaxy Nexus for Christmas. And then I'll get the Nexus 4 next Christmas .
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I'm never buying a non-Google branded android phone again but. I'll just sell it.
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Agree mate
My next device will be a Nexus. I'd love to trade my Galaxy S 2 for a Galaxy Nexus. I'll probably skip the Galaxy S 3 for the next nexus if I can't pull a trade off.
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Definitely keeping it. This phone will last at least 2 more generations I reckon. And 2nd hand smart phone prices almost never ever did them any justice. It has more value sitting in my drawer as a contingency than 3 to 4 hundred bucks. Just saying.
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Keep it. Same as my SGS1
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I'll check if it blends...
I'll prob buy the extended battery for SG2 and wait for SG4. LOL. XD
chuck it in the bin, its done
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Keep it. Same as my SGS1
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Throw my S2 in the magic bullet!!!
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I just got this. I doubt the new generation will do what I do with my phone any better. Lol I gotta stop buying phones every 4 months.
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Gonna sell it and take a s3.
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HydrOG3N is THE Revolution.
Dump everything phone related and have one bad ass mini wifi tablet
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Keep it, I think S2 is still powerful even in the next 2 years
Give it to someone in return for a bj.
As I posted earlier was thinking about selling my note. Well someone offered me $350 cash locally so I took them up and went to Sam's club and bought their last 16gb Google tablet to hold me over until the note 2 in a few months. So far its pretty cool.
I will still be checking here daily to keep up with development and see who is moving to the 2. Plus I've made some good international pals here as well.
anyway, thanks everyone from themers to chefs to developers to those who help and those I've helped, its been fun and ill see ya here and when the second version of the greatest phablet ever is released
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How DARE YOU!
But okay, we'll see you on "the other side", and with that; i mean the Note 2 section.
Adios bud. Hope you like the nexus 7, I'll be getting myself one here shortly and I'll see you in the note 2 forums!!
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Thanks. I'm counting the days until the 2 is released trust me. So far the tab is good. Enjoying my $25 store credit, first purchase is the new Batman game which is freaking 2gig!
Will still be here checking things out and hoping most of you come over to the 2!
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sprintuser1977 said:
Thanks. I'm counting the days until the 2 is released trust me. So far the tab is good. Enjoying my $25 store credit, first purchase is the new Batman game which is freaking 2gig!
Will still be here checking things out and hoping most of you come over to the 2!
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Sorry man, but we don't like wasting money on slightly incremental upgrades. Note 3 or bust.
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I actually ask myself the same question. "Is that big purchase of the new device justified for a sake of some improvements (but not so overly dramatic)?".
I realise Note2 will come with 4 core processor, slightly bigger screen and perhaps Spen functionality ironed out and maybe better battery life. But how much all these improved features will affect my daily use. The more I think about it the less I'm convinced that I should switch...
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I actually ask myself the same question. "Is that big purchase of the new device justified for a sake of some improvements (but not so overly dramatic)?".
I realise Note2 will come with 4 core processor, slightly bigger screen and perhaps Spen functionality ironed out and maybe better battery life. But how much all these improved features will affect my daily use. The more I think about it the less I'm convinced that I should switch...
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Then you're brain is working properly.
None of the features that have leaked are worthy for NOTE users to switch. I mean sure from a Gnex or an S3... but the NOTE is still one of the most advanced smartphones out there.
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Then you're brain is working properly.
None of the features that have leaked are worthy for NOTE users to switch. I mean sure from a Gnex or an S3... but the NOTE is still one of the most advanced smartphones out there.
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Completely agree. I bought my Note 2-3 months ago, and sure i'd like to have Note 2, but lets be honest, throwing loads of money away just to get quad-core cpu ( which i probably won't even notice in my daily use ) is just...well...not very smart, unless you have a lot of cash you can spend for whatever you like, then i guess there's no discussion here. Will definitely buy Note 2, but probably in a year or so.
I am really interested to buy Nexus 7. let us know if you are satisfied with the tablet as a Note user
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I am really interested to buy Nexus 7. let us know if you are satisfied with the tablet as a Note user
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So far I love it. Couple of days in. Never used spen so no biggie there. Gaming awesome. Quadcore awesome. Screen awesome. Makes calls.
I guess imagine a Note on steroids
I've always wanted a large smartphone and this is it! And it actually fits in most of my pockets, and my wife thinks I'm happy to see her all the time too! :thumbup:
Seriously with it doubt i need note 2 now.
From the Note to Nexus 7
As I have started using this wonderful phone I have come to the realization that the development for this device is next to nothing. Are there any more developers as devoted to this community as I am?
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Lol, way to post this in the dev section...
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I think everybody is just taking a break and getting ready for the next update. By the way this thread should be in the general thread.
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Its a question to the developers not the general public
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..... are you kidding me right now?..
how many roms do i pump out for this device? how many kernels does mathkid and r_data push for this device? ect ect...
you wanna see a dead device go look at an lg optimus or somethin
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..... are you kidding me right now?..
how many roms do i pump out for this device? how many kernels does mathkid and r_data push for this device? ect ect...
you wanna see a dead device go look at an lg optimus or somethin
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there are a few developers and belive me i know a dead device i developed for the zte warp untill the androidforums.com mods told me there was no use move on.... the diference is there is no "community development" when multiple people work together to build the best rom possible and there id no themeing either which is a substancial part of any development community. i respect you evol4g otherwise i wouldnt have asked you to my team you are doing a great job keep it going the point of this post was to motivate some of the other developers that have been dormant since jellybean came out you all know that they are out there.
Mostly because people are waiting for 4.2. A lot of the current ROMs are similar and very stable so no need to really make new ROMs unless its say Touchwiz, Sense, or any other custom Android firmware. Wait until 4.2 and devs will probably start making more ROMs.
Incorrect thread is incorrect.
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I will preface my comment by saying i really do appreciate all of the work still being done here. But, let's not kid ourselves. Compared to a year ago, or even 6 months ago, the development has slowed down substantially. I wouldn't say its dead, however this device is showing its age. There are new and better devices that a lot of the people that used to frequent this forum. have moved on to.
Again I do appreciate all of the work still happening in here. This is by far the best supported device I have owned!
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i have to agree with you. but i want to pick it back up this device has potential you cant even imagine
After a year and a half I don't think there's much potential a dev hasn't thought of for this device. You don't see a lot of rom development much after the 2 year mark. Mainly because the devs upgrade to a new phone. I'm just grateful for the work the devs are currently doing!
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well im stuck on this phone for a while so you guys that are in the same situation ill keep working with you guys
It will pick back up when el goog releases 4.2 source. I don't think nexus s will "officially" get 5.0. I do think that a few devs will build it for this device regardless. I might even still be here for that, I haven't decided if I'm going to get a nexus 4 yet. The fact that there is potential for glass to break on both sides of the phone doesn't excite me...
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*looks around*
Nope. No development in this thread, that is in the development section.
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Highway 55 said:
I will preface my comment by saying i really do appreciate all of the work still being done here. But, let's not kid ourselves. Compared to a year ago, or even 6 months ago, the development has slowed down substantially. I wouldn't say its dead, however this device is showing its age. There are new and better devices that a lot of the people that used to frequent this forum. have moved on to.
Again I do appreciate all of the work still happening in here. This is by far the best supported device I have owned!
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Good points and when development does eventually grind to a halt for this device, none of us can really get upset about that. It seems to me for the age of this device, development work has far outlived many other phones.
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For a device of this age, with new devices out that trump it... to see any ROMs getting updated is amazing. Take a look at the HTC Vivid for a community that's dead!
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It will pick back up when el goog releases 4.2 source. I don't think nexus s will "officially" get 5.0. I do think that a few devs will build it for this device regardless. I might even still be here for that, I haven't decided if I'm going to get a nexus 4 yet. The fact that there is potential for glass to break on both sides of the phone doesn't excite me...
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No LTE is pretty upsetting as well.
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No LTE is pretty upsetting as well.
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For a new phone, yes. And from what I've been hearing, the battery life isn't even that great, considering the lack of LTE...
I'm a "new" Nexus S owner (bought one used for $120)... and I'm glad I did. It's a solid phone! Now only if I could figure out how to program peak and off-peak email syncing...
I think we'll have the option to have community aosp 5. It will be an option. Just liked the other nexus phones that stopped getting otas but had the option of a built one.
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Maybe we should all learn how to develop ROMs. That go's for all non developers in this community, including me. If there was any guides on how to build really good ROMs I think the nexus community will be more understanding of how it is to be a developer and evolve the community.
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Just curious,
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Technically its been obsolete for a while but I imagine we'll get AOSP support for a couple more years.
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If you are using a custom ROM, you can bet your ass it will be obsolete.
None of the devs except maybe 2 in the whole community have stuck with a device they are developing for once a new one comes out. They'll abandon users as soon as something new comes out.
I actually came to this forum to see if there was a stock 4.3, because I'm sick and tired of devs who walk out on their users.
Any ROM developers reading this: Yes, this most likely means you.
The DONATIONS you give these guys gives them enough money to get something new; that means, you paid for your own demise.
I'll probably get some flak over this comment, but I've been a member since 2006, I see the trends.
Disgraceful.
It's so bad, I trust Verizon more than I do developers. Now that's sad.
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The DONATIONS you give these guys gives them enough money to get something new; that means, you paid for your own demise.
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Lol!
Obsolescence is a state of mind.
I'm still happy to be using my unrooted DroidX on Android 2.3.4, my rooted, stock Nexus 7 locked at Android 4.1.2 (very stable at 1100+ hours System Uptime, i.e. no unexpected reboots), and even a Windows XP SP3 PC.
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ERM HTC hd 2 much? Bit harsh labeling all developers like that, rather than just dissing them have a go at it yourself. The whole paying for your own demise is unfair too, these guys put hours of effort & probably stressful nights into these ROMs & upload these ROMs for FREE but the option is there to DONATE if you would like to. I have only just got a 2012 n7 & hope to learn enough to keep it running as long as the hardware will last. If you want to keep custom ROMs in development have a go at it rather than sitting back & waiting for it serving up on a plate for free & being ungrateful for what you have actually been given. Remember these guys have lives & jobs & families outside providing FREE ROMs for you.
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Apparently you didn't read the post.
I said that I was searching for a STOCK 4.3 ROM.
and.. I trust Verizon more than I trust devs.
What would make you think I'm using a custom ROM after that comment?
It's not harsh, it's the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts.
I am on tapatalk but if I made my way over to a desktop view, I'm guessing you just joined in the last 2 years. If not, you should see the trends and notice this inexcusable behavior.
I've been here for 7, I see the trends. I am on the most coveted Motorola device at this time, because it's the only one "unlockable". Meander over to the RAZR HD forums, it's dead and we get stale bread crap roms while the sgs4 gets hyperdrive.
I am scared ****less to unlock my device because I know the devs are already abandoning it. I would rather Verizon come out with 4.3 and I can get a nexus 7 4.3 and be on my merry way developing more apps.
When you have something device centric and the users gave you donations to support your development on that device, you are not supposed to walk away from those users like most do. Essentially, they screw the user because they walk off with the money and never look back. If they were business people they wouldn't be in business long for all the lawsuits they would encounter.
Tell me you haven't had this happen to you before.
Low blow or not, it's the truth.
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Apparently you didn't read the post.
I said that I was searching for a STOCK 4.3 ROM.
and.. I trust Verizon more than I trust devs.
What would make you think I'm using a custom ROM after that comment?
It's not harsh, it's the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts.
I am on tapatalk but if I made my way over to a desktop view, I'm guessing you just joined in the last 2 years.
I've been here for 7, I see the trends. I am on the most coveted Motorola device at this time, because it's the only one "unlockable". Meander over to the RAZR HD forums, it's dead and we get stale bread crap roms while the sgs4 gets hyperdrive.
I am scared ****less to unlock my device because I know the devs are already abandoning it. I would rather Verizon come out with 4.3 and I can get a nexus 7 4.3 and be on my merry way developing more apps.
When you have something device centric and the users gave you donations to support your development on that device, you are not supposed to walk away from those users like most do.
Low blow or not, it's the truth.
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Wow!!!!!! You've been here for 7 years.....big deal. And in those 7 years you've been so helpful to your fellow members that you have been "thanked" 7 whole times....let's see....that's one thank per year.
Why don't you just go back to lurking and leave the forum to those who really want to use it.
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I do see what your saying to a point but it doesn't leave a device useless. The option is there to leave stock, flash a custom Rom or make one to suit yourself. Being dickish really isn't going to help gain support or sympathy, the only thing being achieved here is irritating people & isolating yourself from any help you may need.
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Well... Look at it this way, someone had to say it.
When it comes time for a new operating system, people are left high and dry for root access, making their device useless for all intents and purposes.
The developers need to pay a little more respect to people that made donations with not walking away the first sight of a new device.
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Ouch! I'm going bow out of this pissing match.
I pity the fool that puts more faith into Verizon than me.
So sad. You've got issues dude. How are those monthly Verizon donations working out for you?
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They are called service fees and I get the best service of any carrier in the United States.
So, other than Verizon being slow to release roms, at least they don't abandon devices as fast as devs do.
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You sir need to change your tone and quick.
I have abandoned no one and find your bull**** attitude offensive.
I have collected the vast income of about $70 here over the years.
Where the **** were you when I bricked my N73G trying to get GSM voice working.
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I actually came to this forum to see if there was a stock 4.3, because I'm sick and tired of devs who walk out on their users.
Any ROM developers reading this: Yes, this most likely means you.
The DONATIONS you give these guys gives them enough money to get something new; that means, you paid for your own demise.
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Dbag alert..
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So sad. You've got issues dude. How are those monthly Verizon donations working out for you?
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ZING!
Ungrateful bastard. Stay stock.
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Perhaps xda should start selectively charging service fees starting with you.
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Ya know... This really pisees me off. You should be thankful you even have post rights here. XDA is a DEVELOPERS forum. What is it exactly you have actually contributed in your 7 years here?
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You can download the stock images of nexus devices from Google. No need to come here and complain.
As far as this being obsolete I wouldn't be too worried unless you need/want more powerful hardware.
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Keithn said:
You can download the stock images of nexus devices from Google. No need to come here and complain.
As far as this being obsolete I wouldn't be too worried unless you need/want more powerful hardware.
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If he was going to complain about developers doing what they want with their own free time, I'm not surprised he didn't think things through about where factory images come.
Newsflash: donations are voluntary contributions. They are not the same as service fees or commission payment. They carry no legal obligations. If you choose to donate to a dev to get a device, you're acknowledging in the act of donation that the dev is under no contract to support a device for any length of time.
It's very different from what you appear to be imagining, which is some bizarre situation where devs draw up contracts to do crowdfunded work and then breach some "agreement" they made with their users. If a carrier that you pay money for service stops providing services, they're legally liable for that. But if you donate money to a dev? Good luck getting anyone to give a hoot. Caveat emptor.
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XDA is a DEVELOPERS forum.
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Just curious... anyone know what % of the users on XDA are/were software developers?
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Just curious... anyone know what % of the users on XDA are/were software developers?
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Anyone know how much this forum would last without that % of developers?
Oh wait... everybody knows... not much.
No reasonable conversation is taking place and therefore...
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Hello all Note 10.1 2014 owners.
I am starting this thread to see who is interested in a Hyperdrive ROM.
If you are not familiar, it is a ROM developed by sbreen94 on predominantly Samsung Galaxy devices. Probably one of the best and most popular ROMs out there. Check a few of the Galaxy development threads and you will understand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4600715
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4600715
He has been developing for the old Note 10.1 for a while, he does not own a Note 10.1 2014. However, he said if we can put a 2014 edition in his hands he would be more than willing to create the ROM.
Is there any interest in this? I figure a 16gb refurb would do which can be had for around $350.
haspampel and hashcheck have developed two great KK ROMS so far, but it seems development for this tablet is otherwise lacking. This would be a superb addition.
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UPDATE 5/23/2014
Everything looks to be in place. Nabour's costs have been covered, see her post if interested in the details. Any further donations should be directed to sbreen as additional people see fit.
We will now patiently await, and I stress patiently . Any additional insights could be posted in this thread while sbreen is developing but let's not be bothering him. To quote Fat Sam from the movie Fletch "When it comes, it comes"
Thanks again to all who made this happen!
Depends... we would get him for wi-fi only version or lte?
:good: If users around here are interested in this, i would be happy to make and support a rom for you!
We really need a custom rom for P601 badly, I know that would be a big hit here now, as currently there is only 1 that is not upgraded that often.
Ran Hyperdrive ROM on my ATT S3 for a long time before exploring KitKat Rom options. Lots of options and customization. I'd definitely be interested if a ROM was developed.
Definately interested! SM-P600 here...
After how Scrolser took our money and ran I don't really trust donating to anyone anymore.
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Loving it on my Verizon gs4, would be a good incentive towards rooting this device.
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After how Scrolser took our money and ran I don't really trust donating to anyone anymore.
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Would love to see this ROM for the P600.....although I have to agree with Blend.
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After how Scrolser took our money and ran I don't really trust donating to anyone anymore.
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You must not know me or my roms then
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You must not know me or my roms then
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I'm sure you're a nice person and all and well respected here on XDA. Problem is... so was Scrolser and he left us out to dry. A well respected Dev and he got our money, bought the tablet and ended up selling it later while promising to still update our note's (which hasn't happened BTW). Yeah... that left a pretty sour taste in my mouth.
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Guys, sbreen94 is the real deal. He currently supports 4 or 5 devices. He just doesn't get a new one and forgets about the old ones like some devs do. I will start off the bidding at $20.00 for the wifi model (P600). This would be a most excellent addition to the Note 10.1 2014 community.
¿Will-it-Blend? said:
I'm sure you're a nice person and all and well respected here on XDA. Problem is... so was Scrolser and he left us out to dry. A well respected Dev and he got our money, bought the tablet and ended up selling it later while promising to still update our note's (which hasn't happened BTW). Yeah... that left a pretty sour taste in my mouth.
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I can definitely see how that would upset you and I think it would me too. In the end this is up to you guys and whether or not you guys would like a killer rom for your device. I'll continue to support the phones that I currently own either way
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I can definitely see how that would upset you and I think it would me too. In the end this is up to you guys and whether or not you guys would like a killer rom for your device. I'll continue to support the phones that I currently own either way
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Guys, I would totally support Mr. Breen. I have used Hyperdrive on my Galaxy Note 3 and it is an amazing rom. He is an experienced, top-rated developer.
Let me know how this works - do we just start sending donations, or is it more organized than that.
Barbara
Yes!
I would love to see this rom available for this device!
P600
I would be ok to trow some bucks in for p605, but i doubt there will be anyone else, since we are so few. (i think?)
You can count on 10$ donation from me if you decide to start working on it.
Donations etc.
I figured it would be for the P600 since that is what a majority of people probably own, and it is the easier of the three to be had for a lower price.
I don't know how to organize donations. Perhaps we should do it bounty style with people posting what they can contribute, I'll keep track.
Put me down for $40.
sbreen is legit. He has always well supported all of his roms for all of his devices. I think you'll have an impossible time finding anyone to say anything negative about his work.
Let's keep this ball rollin' :laugh:
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I figured it would be for the P600 since that is what a majority of people probably own, and it is the easier of the three to be had for a lower price.
I don't know how to organize donations. Perhaps we should do it bounty style with people posting what they can contribute, I'll keep track.
Put me down for $40.
sbreen is legit. He has always well supported all of his roms for all of his devices. I think you'll have an impossible time finding anyone to say anything negative about his work.
Let's keep this ball rollin' :laugh:
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I'll go $40.00 as well....
Thanks for the support guys. I would say let's go for the Wi-Fi model which is the P600 I'm assuming. I think posting the amount you are able to contribute in this thread is good so we can keep track. I should probably be able to chip in like 50$ of my own funds toward it
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