Miracast?! - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Engadget review said the N10 didnt have miracast, unlike the N4
is this something that will be available at launch, or in an upgrade
that really sucks cause i was pumped about using to to beam XBMC and games to my TV, even got a miracast adapter for my tv (all share hub)

I expect by the time you can buy a tablet it will be working. You should get the up grade as soon as you start using the tablet. Since the n10 has to be in warehouses ready to go they will have to update when sold. Jmo

Which is yet another reason to take these pre-release reviews with a grain of salt...

I thought about that to be honest, but what confused me is it was there in the nexus 4 pre release; we will see nov 13, fingers crossed

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should i buy a xoom or wait

I sold my Ipad 2 cause it was gettin boring. I've had android phones for the past 3 years. I now have the SGS2E4GT. Should I get a Xoom or wait for something better? Or is there something better out there right now?
thanks for the advice.
The Xoom is a good buy if you can get it at the right price.
I've had iphone, ipad etc and really like my new Xoom
it feels like YOUR tablet unlike ipad which has too many restraints put on it by apple
you can set it up just as you like it
I too got bored of the whole apple thing a while ago.
I bought a transformer prime on release in December but returned it as it had issues and for £500 I wasn't willing to accept that
My Xoom was only £249 and as yet everything works perfect
I changed my Xoom to the US version to get ICS early and its great
Its true there will be better tablets out but at a premium cost
For now the Xoom is awesome value
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Well I will tell you why I went Xoom despite my love of the transformer design and the knowledge that the 4 Proc Prime was on the way....
It basically came down to the "Google Experience"!
The Xoom is basically the unit that was used as the showpiece for HC and Android Tablet and thankfully to have that priviledge Google insisted that the Bootloader be unlocked which was a new thing for anyone familiar with Motorola! ( I have a D2G and don't get me started on Locked Bootloaders there! LOL)
In the end it was a tossup between waiting for the Prime and Keyboard combo or going with the slightly cheaper Xoom 4G and the fact that the transformer had a locked bootloader was the final nail in the transformer coffin!
The 4 Core was very tempting but most of the apps and games don't take advantage and no point in paying a premium until they do! By then those units will be cheaper so maybe then I will upgrade but I have to say I have ZERO regrets going Xoom!
In fact I have been very pleasantly surprised at just how versatile and comprehensive the unit is!
I can read USB Hard drives even those in NTFS format, USB Flash memory keys even use a wired USB Ethernet adapter!
I doubt any iPad can do that!
The fact that the community can patch the Kernal at will means even more magic is possible!
You can never go wrong with a "Google Experience" device be it pad or phone!
My only hope is that Moto will unlock the Droid4 as well cause if they do I will stay Moto for the forseeable future.
They make great Hardware their problems have always been on the software side!
Unlocked bootloader makes that situation go away!
I can tell you this much - I absolutely love my Xoom. I have been going "Android crazy" over the last couple of months. It started black friday with Best Buy's Dell Streak 7 dump ($159) - gave that one to my daughter.
Picked up a Lenovo K1 at Office Depot around Xmas for only $299, which was a steal, but the tablet is not "pure" enough Android for me, and is buggy (it is on eBay now
Then, I found a very nice, barely used Xoom locally for $240. It was manufactured in March, so I was a little worried, but it was absolutely mint, and, like he said barely used. I was NOT disappointed.
Fast forward to last week, my Transformer Prime finally arrived. It is OK, but I am telling you, I like the Xoom better at this point. The Xoom's 1/18 ICS update went so smooth, and the Xoom is quick and stable. The Prime is not as solid right now, and I will honest with you - feels no faster than the Xoom with ICS in normal use (even though benchmarking proves it to be nearly 2x as fast).
I am going to keep both the Prime and the Xoom but the Xoom is a top notch machine. It is pure Android (even the prime has many customizations, though nothing as obtrusive as the Lenovo's).
I would say, yes - if you can get one for a good deal, go for it!!!
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I've had both the ipad 2 and the motorola xoom.
To be honest I prefer the ipad 2, its much lighter and has a better interface.
I use the xoom for recipes in the kitchen but I wouldn't want to carry it around all day
I would wait for the new thinner version
Staples had the Xoom for something like $250 if you look on this forum you can find the thread. I guess it all depends on what you're looking to do with it. I passed on the Transformer Prime as the Xoom does what I need, I really don't need quadcore.
The 10" xyboard isn't an option for me as it is too expensive and doesn't offer enough to make me trade in my xoom. The ability to write notes is certainly something I'd like but I'd rather stick with a GED tablet and have the microsd memory slot.
ipad3 is due out in March if you believe the rumors and the hi resolution android tablets should be out between February on June. If I wanted a tablet now, the $250 Xoom at Staples is probably the best buy out there now. ICS reviews on the xoom have been very good, I haven't received it yet as I'm using a LTE xoom.

[Q] Nexus 7 really for me?

Hi all.
Firstly, I live in Canada, which means Google Play store content is not as "enriched" as the American version of the Google Store. There's not a lot of variety, or so I've heard.
Anyways, I am looking for a tablet, main purpose is not to game, but for music/video/office stuffs sometimes. I guess I don't need a quad-core processor, but it will definitely be useful.
I pre-ordered nexus 7, but seeing how I am restricted to 16gbs, I am planning to cancel that and get a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 instead, and put a 32gb SDHC inside. I can only spend about 250 CAD, so ASUS Transformers are out of my question.
My question is, should I stick to Nexus 7, and google play store that is not very developed or get a galaxy tab 2 7.0? I am not really planning to buy content from it anyways, just use it as a day-to-day device for video playback and music from my iTunes collection.
Also, if I do get the galaxy tab, would it be updated to jellybean possibly? Would this improve the performance over already-installed ics?
Or should I just wait for a new line of tablets, and how soon will they be released??
Thanks.
jeong747 said:
Hi all.
Firstly, I live in Canada, which means Google Play store content is not as "enriched" as the American version of the Google Store. There's not a lot of variety, or so I've heard.
Anyways, I am looking for a tablet, main purpose is not to game, but for music/video/office stuffs sometimes. I guess I don't need a quad-core processor, but it will definitely be useful.
I pre-ordered nexus 7, but seeing how I am restricted to 16gbs, I am planning to cancel that and get a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 instead, and put a 32gb SDHC inside. I can only spend about 250 CAD, so ASUS Transformers are out of my question.
My question is, should I stick to Nexus 7, and google play store that is not very developed or get a galaxy tab 2 7.0? I am not really planning to buy content from it anyways, just use it as a day-to-day device for video playback and music from my iTunes collection.
Also, if I do get the galaxy tab, would it be updated to jellybean possibly? Would this improve the performance over already-installed ics?
Or should I just wait for a new line of tablets, and how soon will they be released??
Thanks.
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First your comment about the limited "content" of the Play Store will apply to all Android devices. Since they all share the same market. You also have the option of obtaining content via Amazon and GetJar...
Second, I am not 100% sure, but I think the market is not as robust for the world outside of North America (includes Canada), don't quote me though. I am sure other's in your region will chime in soon.
At $200 USD it's IMO the best bang for the buck. I am not sure if you have any other devices currently, but I would really take inventory of how much content you require to carry with you at all times. I assume what ever you are considering buying at that price point will be limited to wifi as the N7 is. You have quite a few cloud storage options. If you feel so inclined, there are also more options on additional storage hardware if you decide to root as well..
Hope that helps,
-CC
EDIT: Compare specs; http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3351&id2=3641
While I do wish you could expand the nexus 7 storage you need to ask yourself......are you really going to use over 16 gigs? I mean how often do you need to have 15 movies on your tab? You're probably going to be by your computer everyday at some point so you much crap do you realistically need on it on a day to day basis? If you are going on a flight plug in a flash drive with the OTG cable. The nexus 7 hardware is equivalent or better than the grab 2 7 and the software/dev is going to be amazing. Just my. 02
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Clienterror said:
While I do wish you could expand the nexus 7 storage you need to ask yourself......are you really going to use over 16 gigs? I mean how often do you need to have 15 movies on your tab? You're probably going to be by your computer everyday at some point so you much crap do you realistically need on it on a day to day basis? If you are going on a flight plug in a flash drive with the OTG cable. The nexus 7 hardware is equivalent or better than the grab 2 7 and the software/dev is going to be amazing. Just my. 02
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I didn't think the N7 supported OTG? Does it?
Questions go in the Q&A section
As he said, you need to take inventory of all the stuff you'll have on the tablet at one time. Music can be several gigs, depending on your collection (and that's not really something you want to copy back and forth) and whether or not you use google music.
Remember that you don't actually get 16G, only 13G.
USB OTG is (probably) also possible if you root.
jeong747 said:
Hi all.
Firstly, I live in Canada, which means Google Play store content is not as "enriched" as the American version of the Google Store. There's not a lot of variety, or so I've heard.
Anyways, I am looking for a tablet, main purpose is not to game, but for music/video/office stuffs sometimes. I guess I don't need a quad-core processor, but it will definitely be useful.
I pre-ordered nexus 7, but seeing how I am restricted to 16gbs, I am planning to cancel that and get a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 instead, and put a 32gb SDHC inside. I can only spend about 250 CAD, so ASUS Transformers are out of my question.
My question is, should I stick to Nexus 7, and google play store that is not very developed or get a galaxy tab 2 7.0? I am not really planning to buy content from it anyways, just use it as a day-to-day device for video playback and music from my iTunes collection.
Also, if I do get the galaxy tab, would it be updated to jellybean possibly? Would this improve the performance over already-installed ics?
Or should I just wait for a new line of tablets, and how soon will they be released??
Thanks.
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Hi, I have the grab 7.7, the nexus 7 and I just bought the gtab 7.0 for my niece. If I were in your situation with a budget I would do the gtab 7.0 for 2 reasons 1- storage sounds like you need as much as you can get. 2- I think the N7 has some production, build quality issues and my experience with the transformer prime tablet, also made by ASUS was not great.
If you can't wait then get the 7.0. If you CAN wait, I am sure they will work out the kinks - overall the N7 is the better device but the 7.0 is a solid device no issues lots of accessories and does have ice cream sandwich OS
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jrpbulk said:
Hi, I have the grab 7.7, the nexus 7 and I just bought the gtab 7.0 for my niece. If I were in your situation with a budget I would do the gtab 7.0 for 2 reasons 1- storage sounds like you need as much as you can get. 2- I think the N7 has some production, build quality issues and my experience with the transformer prime tablet, also made by ASUS was not great.
If you can't wait then get the 7.0. If you CAN wait, I am sure they will work out the kinks - overall the N7 is the better device but the 7.0 is a solid device no issues lots of accessories and does have ice cream sandwich OS
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Thanks. Now I am really considering the gtab2. But in Canada would I be able to cancel my order because this is what they told me via email:
"Hello,
We wanted to send you an update on your Nexus 7 pre-order. We’ve had incredible demand for the new tablet and are shipping them as quickly as possible. Your tablet will ship in 1-2 weeks.
Thanks for your patience. Your Nexus 7 will be on its way soon.
The Google Play Team"
This is clearly a bs, since I paid 20 for 2-day shipping, have to wait 1-2 more weeks.
They haven't charged my credit card yet, so would I have a better chance if I call them personally? (I tried last night, gave up after 50 min on the phone waiting)
jeong747 said:
Hi all.
Firstly, I live in Canada, which means Google Play store content is not as "enriched" as the American version of the Google Store. There's not a lot of variety, or so I've heard.
Anyways, I am looking for a tablet, main purpose is not to game, but for music/video/office stuffs sometimes. I guess I don't need a quad-core processor, but it will definitely be useful.
I pre-ordered nexus 7, but seeing how I am restricted to 16gbs, I am planning to cancel that and get a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 instead, and put a 32gb SDHC inside. I can only spend about 250 CAD, so ASUS Transformers are out of my question.
My question is, should I stick to Nexus 7, and google play store that is not very developed or get a galaxy tab 2 7.0? I am not really planning to buy content from it anyways, just use it as a day-to-day device for video playback and music from my iTunes collection.
Also, if I do get the galaxy tab, would it be updated to jellybean possibly? Would this improve the performance over already-installed ics?
Or should I just wait for a new line of tablets, and how soon will they be released??
Thanks.
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It's true it really isn't as enriched as the USA store, you can still rent movies at least (haven't gotten my 7 yet to check out what's in the store). I don't see myself gaming really that much either (I have a PS3 for that) so I'll be doing pretty much the same as you.
For Music: I uploaded all my music to Google Music and I gotta say, it is well worth it if you haven't done it already. Really handy and streams really quickly.
For Movies/TV Shows: I have my own dedicated server (Dell running Ubunutu) from which I stream my content from so in my case I'm not too worried about storing stuff on the tablet (except for maybe a trip where I'll save some). If this does interest you or you are home quite a bit, you could even create a share folder on your computer or laptop and access it from your tablet.
As for cancelling, from what I understand you can refuse delivery and they will give you a refund, but I haven't personally checked on that. Honestly, I have my doubts you'll get offical JB and if you do it will be ages before you ever get it.
Which one did you order from the GP Store, 8GB or 16GB?
PS. This will be my first tablet so I'm excited :laugh:
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jeong747 said:
Thanks. Now I am really considering the gtab2. But in Canada would I be able to cancel my order because this is what they told me via email:
"Hello,
We wanted to send you an update on your Nexus 7 pre-order. We’ve had incredible demand for the new tablet and are shipping them as quickly as possible. Your tablet will ship in 1-2 weeks.
Thanks for your patience. Your Nexus 7 will be on its way soon.
The Google Play Team"
This is clearly a bs, since I paid 20 for 2-day shipping, have to wait 1-2 more weeks.
They haven't charged my credit card yet, so would I have a better chance if I call them personally? (I tried last night, gave up after 50 min on the phone waiting)
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Ya I got that exact same email, 30mins after I got my tracking number...lol Also mine says UPS Standard which is around 4 days shipping...not happy
adamskub said:
It's true it really isn't as enriched as the USA store, you can still rent movies at least (haven't gotten my 7 yet to check out what's in the store). I don't see myself gaming really that much either (I have a PS3 for that) so I'll be doing pretty much the same as you.
For Music: I uploaded all my music to Google Music and I gotta say, it is well worth it if you haven't done it already. Really handy and streams really quickly.
For Movies/TV Shows: I have my own dedicated server (Dell running Ubunutu) from which I stream my content from so in my case I'm not too worried about storing stuff on the tablet (except for maybe a trip where I'll save some). If this does interest you or you are home quite a bit, you could even create a share folder on your computer or laptop and access it from your tablet.
As for cancelling, from what I understand you can refuse delivery and they will give you a refund, but I haven't personally checked on that. Honestly, I have my doubts you'll get offical JB and if you do it will be ages before you ever get it.
Which one did you order from the GP Store, 8GB or 16GB?
PS. This will be my first tablet so I'm excited :laugh:
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Ya I got that exact same email, 30mins after I got my tracking number...lol Also mine says UPS Standard which is around 4 days shipping...not happy
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Sadly, Google Music is not available in Canada, only available in the U.S.
And I ordered 16gb version, I know 8gbs have shipped already, but 1-2weeks for the 16gb one.
clockcycle said:
Second, I am not 100% sure, but I think the market is not as robust for the world outside of North America (includes Canada), don't quote me though. I am sure other's in your region will chime in soon.
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I kinda lol'ed when I read this. If Canada isn't included in North America, that only leaves US.
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For Music: I uploaded all my music to Google Music and I gotta say, it is well worth it if you haven't done it already. Really handy and streams really quickly.
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Google Music isn't available in Canada yet.
And at OP, you're gonna be using the same Play Store on the N7 and the Galaxy Tab, so I'm kinda confused about your statement. Do you mean because it's running jelly bean? If so, it's only gonna be a short time for developers to edit those apps to be fully compatible.
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jeong747 said:
Sadly, Google Music is not available in Canada, only available in the U.S.
And I ordered 16gb version, I know 8gbs have shipped already, but 1-2weeks for the 16gb one.
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Ya I know but you can get it like I did (I live in Canada as well) using Tor to setup an account and then your free to access it while still in Canada. I used this guide, super simple and again you only need to setup using a US IP, you can still access using a Canadian IP
Ohh that sucks, I ordered a 8GB from GP but decided to sell to a friend and ordered through Futureshop, much cheaper (cost me $294 w/ tax for 16GB FS, $256 w/ tax GP in Ontario). Hopefully they do ship them soon though
I got mine yesterday and I think it's the best tablet experience. I have a Transformer (Tf101); and I think I almost like this more. It's smooth, fast and extremely portable. The Nexus 7, along with my Chromebook, will go to school with me. I think this will be the ideal combination.
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I live in Canada and my 16gb got shipped, I have no clue if I should keep it, or return it for a refund.
I also bought galaxy tab 7.0 plus and will get a sdhc card.
Should I keep my nexus 7?

[Q] Best price on a Nexus 10?

Well I have the N10 on my Christmas list after doing my research on what exactly I wanted in my next tablet. I'm coming from a Kindle Fire 1st gen rooted and running 4.4, so I'm sure I'll be pleasantly surprised at the difference in performance.
So to my question, since my family missed any potential Black Friday deals, does anybody know what the best pricing on the N10 is currently? I don't want a used device and on the fence with whether or not I would do refurbished. I've had my issues in the past with refurbished electronics. I guess if the deal was right I'd do refurbished. I was mostly considering the 32 gig, but if there was an outstanding deal for the 16 gig, I'd gladly do that since I never even fill up my 4 or 8 gig Kindle.. Whichever it is. Was also thinking of waiting for the N10 2, but with only mild speculation and no release date, I think I'd be fine with the current version. Any help would be awesome. Anybody know of any specific Cyber Monday deals either?
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Jersey846 said:
.... does anybody know what the best pricing on the N10 is currently?
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I was scanning for about 2 weeks, the best price varied by about $140 by the day between $280-$420. I'd put in the effort and check daily. This site seemed to find them fairly fast.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...exus-10-32gb-for-279-plus-5-shipping-us-only/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...us-10-32gb-plus-a-100-visa-gift-card-for-399/
So ...just from last 2 week's experience, I'd check this like twice daily as part of your ritual.
http://www.androidpolice.com/topics/phones-devices/samsung/nexus-10-samsung/
Amazon seemed to hold its price about $400-$425 when I was looking, I went for the Woot offer as it happened first, the ebay one was about $14 less for me but i'd already ordered the earlier one.
Have you worked out the price you'd want to pay (and don't say as low as possible) or have you worked out the date by which you want it ordered?
I wanted to pay $300 personally so I just held til I found it, I wasn't needing by a specific date as I just wanted basically less-squinting larger N7. No way was I going to pay $400, never mind $500.
I think a $300-ish offer will come up within the next 2 week, just put in the daily ritual and be patient.
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There is a thread intended for this you know...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982118&page=202
Thanks for the rundown. Should have seen that last link before. But will be keeping my eye on that Android Police deals site. Do you have an opinion about refurbished Nexus 10's? Anybody running into any issues?
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You run the same risks with refurbished as new.
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Jersey846 said:
Well I have the N10 on my Christmas list after doing my research on what exactly I wanted in my next tablet. I'm coming from a Kindle Fire 1st gen rooted and running 4.4, so I'm sure I'll be pleasantly surprised at the difference in performance.
So to my question, since my family missed any potential Black Friday deals, does anybody know what the best pricing on the N10 is currently? I don't want a used device and on the fence with whether or not I would do refurbished. I've had my issues in the past with refurbished electronics. I guess if the deal was right I'd do refurbished. I was mostly considering the 32 gig, but if there was an outstanding deal for the 16 gig, I'd gladly do that since I never even fill up my 4 or 8 gig Kindle.. Whichever it is. Was also thinking of waiting for the N10 2, but with only mild speculation and no release date, I think I'd be fine with the current version. Any help would be awesome. Anybody know of any specific Cyber Monday deals either?
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If I were you, I will just wait for Nexus 10 2nd generation. It will be released very soon (Few days to maximum of few weeks)
Not only you will get top notch tablet with latest hardware but your device will also be updated by google for a longer period of time. This means you will see 4 more updates minimum with compared to last update on Nexus 10.
I know there would be some 100-250 $ in old and new generation but I can tell you that it will be worth to pay the extra and get it.
I had a choice to buy Nexus 7 2012 or wait for Nexus 7 2013, i waited and I can tell you I am so happy that I waited. Not only it's thousand times better than older generation but the price isnot bad either/ (I got it around 220 for 32GB using staples coupon in US while officemax was giving 15-20% off too). Remember you will always find deals around different time of the year and I know waiting sucks but it will be worth it.
Good Luck
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Jersey846 said:
Well I have the N10 on my Christmas list after doing my research on what exactly I wanted in my next tablet. I'm coming from a Kindle Fire 1st gen rooted and running 4.4, so I'm sure I'll be pleasantly surprised at the difference in performance.
So to my question, since my family missed any potential Black Friday deals, does anybody know what the best pricing on the N10 is currently? I don't want a used device and on the fence with whether or not I would do refurbished. I've had my issues in the past with refurbished electronics. I guess if the deal was right I'd do refurbished. I was mostly considering the 32 gig, but if there was an outstanding deal for the 16 gig, I'd gladly do that since I never even fill up my 4 or 8 gig Kindle.. Whichever it is. Was also thinking of waiting for the N10 2, but with only mild speculation and no release date, I think I'd be fine with the current version. Any help would be awesome. Anybody know of any specific Cyber Monday deals either?
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nigelhealy said:
You run the same risks with refurbished as new.
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I guess you should wait too
look for bargains, don't wait unless you can wait.
Hnk1 said:
If I were you, I will just wait for Nexus 10 2nd generation. It will be released very soon (Few days to maximum of few weeks)
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There is only speculation about a N10 successor, there is in equal weight:
There is no N10 successor, current manufactured is all there is and Google is getting out of Android 10" as didn't sell well in volume.
There is a no 10" successor, there is an 8" successor which at least better matches what FCC approved.
There is an N10 successor, produced by Samsung or Asus
There is a 10" coming out but it is Chrome OS not Android
Dates have been "any day now" for weeks. There is a rumor one will be announced today (and there was last Friday and last Monday and the Friday before and......).
Now here is what happens when something comes out:
It is very difficult to get initially
you can only get it from Google Play with tax and shipping
you'll pay RRP
you'll suffer what initial bugs exist, like screen lifting, etc., you'll likely have bugs needing 4.4.2 or 4.5 to fix.
I'd not wait for a N10 successor, but neither would I pay $400+ for the current N10, I'd look out for N10 bargains around $300 mark, and then when/if a $500+ N10 successor comes out, you'll think "well I got a reasonable value for a known product", if the N10 successor comes out and it has something you want, you can then get it and sell the N10 for not a massive amount less than you paid and had it in your hands for the interim.
I got a N7 2012 32GB out in June '13. When the N7 2013 came out it was $50 more delivered. For what I use my N7 for, I kept it on 4.2.2 and ok, didn't like 4.3 and went to 4.4, which with Franco kernel is perfectly ok fine fore me, and you can get the N7 2012 32GB model now for $115.
If the N10 comes out, it will likely be worth $500+, the current N10 is I think worth $300.
My N10 is due in post today, I paid $314 delivered, let's see.....
Current N10 used on Ebay sell for >$300, if N10 successor comes out it will still sell likely for >$250. So if I sold my N10 say 4 months from now for say $250, I'll have lost $64 so cost me 50cents/day.
Is 50cents/day worth waiting and doing without for a possibly nothing?
So, the only reason to wait is because any given technology drops in cost over time, so if you buy it later you'll tend to get it cheaper, or get better technology. If you want now, focus on getting a bargain, don't wait for a future unknown thing.

So who's getting one?

I currently have a tab pro 8.4, but I'm salivating for something that I should have waited for. How do we think this tab compares to the current ones? What does everyone think of the ps4 remote capabilities?
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Yep. Have the tab pro 8.4 too. Wanted Sony, but the Z2 tab was too big.
This should be perfect. But my tab is pretty new.
It probably won't be available in India for a couple of months anyway.. Will seriously consider it.
I just saw a hands on video on android central. It looks like it would give me pretty much the same experience as my tab 8.4(aside from remote play obviously) . So the only thing motivating me now is my love for gadgets and ridding myself of this home button. ?
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I currently have a tab pro 8.4, but I'm salivating for something that I should have waited for. How do we think this tab compares to the current ones? What does everyone think of the ps4 remote capabilities?
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the remote capablilties may be port able
I need to see reviews first, especially the battery life... If GSMArena will rate the video playback for more than 10hrs, then it's golden...
Sub 300 ppi is a deal breaker for me.
Also priced at same level as Retina Mini and Samsung Tab S. However Samsung Tab S has 20% off code which is really its true RRP. Therefore this Sony is expensive.
Only positive is that it looks like it has a dialler. If so I would consider using this as my daily device over my Sony Ultra. (I rarely make or receive phones calls anymore as communication is usually through data).
I am considering this as a replacement for my Ultra. Unlocked SGP621 for me, I am already prepared for an imported unit since I am very skeptical against US availability for an unlocked, unbranded LTE edition. The lack of such information yesterday indicate a huge risk for a new Z2 Tablet LTE flop, aka carrier exclusivity, disabled radio bands and bloatware.
So I expect to buy it from either At GSM or Negri Electronics as I usually do (I got my Xperia Z half a year before a crippled T-Mobile version came and I also owned the Ultra for a similar length of time before they gave it a US release).
I made a mockup of the Z3 Tablet Compact yesterday and it could replace the Ultra without too many problems, it is just a few mm wider than the CP12 power cover I use. Since I read a lot on my device, big screens are a necessity and since it is a tablet, I expect fully operational 213 DPI as well with build.prop edit. The more I check it out, the more convinced I am about it as the "Ultra 2".
One thing I really hope is that they give it a proper keyboard cover, then it would also replace my TF700 as well. They had the BKB50 for the Z2 Tablet but cancelled it but I hope a "BKB40" will arrive for this new baby.
The dialer is also the key enabler as an Ultra replacement in my case as well and I am not afraid of buying an imported device. Getting it through a US carrier is just out of the question.
Well I just bought the Nvidia Shield Tablet, so I wont be getting the Z3 Tablet Compact... but I really want the launcher...
Definitely pre-ordering one as soon as the option is available in the US. I love my Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, but the remote play option is too good to pass up. Not to mention the fact that it's waterproof.
Waiting for the price. It it's closer to $300 I might consider it other wise Tab S 8.4 for me.......
Have the Tab S 8.4. I'm just sick of Samsung's crapwiz and this stupid home button. I'm so tempted to get the z3 tablet, but I will wait for the next Nexus 8.9 I could get behind.
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I'll be getting the LTE version unlocked @ ATGSM like E90 mentioned. Hopefully it'll work out to be my only device for 90% of my tasks (calls, texts, reading, browsing, etc.) Can't wait til Nov. 4th!
Also from the overseas pricing it looks like it'll be $499 for the 16Gb LTE version.
Will this have "tap-to-wake"-functionality? Does anyone know?
November 4th is the release date? Man that's far they all look so good shield tab s
I'm interested, as long as they have a 32GB LTE version. Too bad Samsung keeps screwing up their tablets. Now I have to wait....
Unless something more interesting comes along before then.
Look for it to be $399 in the US for the 16gb WiFi version. I have money already set aside for one. Been wanting a Sony 8" tablet for a while.
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Hah it's funny how the first two posts mention the Tab Pro 8.4. So I got a Tab S 8.4 thinking it would be the ****, but I was disappointed by the performance of the Exynos CPU and Touchwiz, as well as the Knox counter, and how development for the device didn't look very promising. I got a Tab Pro 8.4 for comparison, which I like more than the S, actually, but...
I just had/have this gut feeling there's going to be better devices in the near future. The Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact (shoot whoever names these damn devices) is one such promising device. The other device I'm waiting to hear about definitively is the "Nexus 9" (if it's going to be called that), which is rumored to be an 8.9" 4:3 device.
Can anyone comment on how hackable I should expect this thing to be? I got a taste of a relatively dead development scene with these two Tabs; a far cry from my Nexus 4 which has tons of potential. I know that the Nexus 9 will probably be good on this front, but I've never bought a Sony tablet before.
I'm going to guess the nexus devices will always have the most active development because of how easy it is to unlock and go crazy. It's a little funny how few roms there are for my tab pro 8.4 considering how nice the hardware is.
I'm not seasoned enough to comment on the possibility of roms for these sony tabs. Evidently , nice hardware may not be a motivating factor. One plus, though is that it won't have knox. ?
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Spectre51 said:
Look for it to be $399 in the US for the 16gb WiFi version. I have money already set aside for one. Been wanting a Sony 8" tablet for a while.
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That's not bad...not wonderful but not bad. Trying to figure out if waterproof is worth that much, or if I should go with a SHIELD Tablet.
So just heard it maybe white only 32gb for the US WiFi and lte version. Not sure why only white 32 but that's the latest info I am getting.
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Amazon UK suddenly stopped selling Shield TV 16GB?

I was shopping for a Shield TV on Amazon UK for a few days and suddenly today there's a message:
"Currently unavailable. - We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."
Could there be a new model coming down the pipe?
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I was shopping for a Shield TV on Amazon UK for a few days and suddenly today there's a message:
"Currently unavailable. - We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."
Could there be a new model coming down the pipe?
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Try Ebuyer Amazon were not offering free controller ebuyer are £149 with 2 controllers.
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More probable that it's not been a good seller and they're stopping selling it?
I would think that if a new model was this close then there would have been announcements or at least rumours.
It came back on Amazon UK again... but it doesn't have the extra free controller (two total) like Nvidia.com is selling for the same price.
In any event, I just ordered a Wetek Core for $112 which I reckon will do the trick for me. It's powerful enough for Kodi and comes with a decent remote. It will replace my Roku 3 (I've been a Roku user from day one).
Nvidia should give people a choice between games controller, remote or nada - they'd sell far more Shield TV boxes.
I've never played games in my life so the thought of being stuck with a games controller and paying more for a remote just turned me off.
Plus, the Shield TV has been out for about a year now - I'd expect a new model within a few months.
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It came back on Amazon UK again... but it doesn't have the extra free controller (two total) like Nvidia.com is selling for the same price.
In any event, I just ordered a Wetek Core for $112 which I reckon will do the trick for me. It's powerful enough for Kodi and comes with a decent remote. It will replace my Roku 3 (I've been a Roku user from day one).
Nvidia should give people a choice between games controller, remote or nada - they'd sell far more Shield TV boxes.
I've never played games in my life so the thought of being stuck with a games controller and paying more for a remote just turned me off.
Plus, the Shield TV has been out for about a year now - I'd expect a new model within a few months.
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The two game pads are a promotion that finishes on the 1st of May. Stores like Ebuyer and Scan are honouring it in the UK...I bought my Shield TV just over a month ago when the remote was bundled free on promotion. Honestly the remote isn't all that and is overpriced in my opinion....even if people don't want the extra pad being bundled, it shouldn't be hard to sell on to recoup cash on the initial purchase.
I'm sure you did your homework before buying. I've read many reviews and most don't really do the device justice....many mention the remote as being needed but neglect to mention the CEC compatibility (use the actual television remote) or the free apps available for smartphones to control Android TV or Kodi. Yes the "gaming chops" of the Shield TV are often mentioned but I'm still confident I bought the better hardware...it's actually Android TV that lets the device down. Many people are using Kodi and 3rd party addons to use ITV Player, which is crazy as they should have android apps available for the device.
With the update to Marshmallow it's actually more cost effective to buy the 16GB model and add your own storage (MicroSD or USB HDD) . These promotions surprise me as I figured Nvidia would need to bundle extra "goodies" for the Pro version to entice people to purchase that model.
I wouldn't be so sure about a new device so soon. I felt the same about the Shield tablet, after a year on the shelves I knew the Shield TV was on the horizon and (wrongly) assumed they would do a new tablet with Maxwell. Instead they released the Shield K1, still using Kepler and removing some features to lower the price point.

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