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AT&T Data Plan Choice with i9000 / Bell Vibrant

I'm about to purchase a Bell Vibrant. Can anyone tell me if they are able to use the cheap non-smartphone data (which is $15/unlimited or $10/unlimited for families)? This has been the case with most non-AT&T branded smartphones I've owned but I want to be double sure before I buy. If anyone with a European i9000 using it on AT&T could tell me that would be great, as since they are essentially the same phone I'm sure AT&T would treat them the same. Also, if you could tell me how your phone shows up in the AT&T online account at att.com/mywireless that would be helpful as well. Thanks!

Yea, i have the European i9000 with the $15 unlimited data plan.

INeedYourHelp said:
Yea, i have the European i9000 with the $15 unlimited data plan.
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Good to hear. What does it show up as in your AT&T web control panel?
Also anyone with a Bell model want to pipe in to confirm this 100%?

get unlimited data plan, or something like 6 GB data plan
the Android Phones are super heavy on data usage

AllGamer said:
get unlimited data plan, or something like 6 GB data plan
the Android Phones are super heavy on data usage
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What do you mean...the cheap plans we're talking about are unlimited. That's what I have on my Milestone I just pay $10 for unlimited "dumbphone" data (I'm part of a family plan, if I wasn't it would be $15 for unlimted "dumbphone" data).

I can confirm. Bell Vibrant using Family unlimited plan $10. Hopefully it stays that way!
Oh and to answer second question, it shows up as unknown device in OLAM.

dawgpound6985 said:
I can confirm. Bell Vibrant using Family unlimited plan $10. Hopefully it stays that way!
Oh and to answer second question, it shows up as unknown device in OLAM.
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Good to hear. That's how it works with the Milestone and G1 that I have in the family.
I personally don't think that they will change it. With the Xperia X10, the IMEI's were unrecognized until AT&T got their version and then everybody was bumped to the pricey data plans. But AT&T has already had their Galaxy S for a few months, so it seems like the time to do that is passed so we should be safe. The only confusing thing is how/why AT&T recognizes Nexus Ones. I suppose Google felt they had to give the information so that they wouldn't polarize their relationship with AT&T.

3G data only plans?

Bought the NS no-contract and was wondering if anyone knows of, and can recommend a 3G data only plan? I don't need voice, just a data plan, preferably no contract. Thanks!

aimfire72 said:
Bought the NS no-contract and was wondering if anyone knows of, and can recommend a 3G data only plan? I don't need voice, just a data plan, preferably no contract. Thanks!
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Im sure you could go to Tmobile and just ask them to put a data plan on the phone...it is 30 bucks though

You have few choices:
1. webconnect 5GB semi-unlimited: $40 a month (I use it with nexus one and NS)
2. smartphone data only plan: $40 plus 40 cents a min voice
3. $1.5/day PAYG webpass
#1 and #2 are Even More Plus internet plans.

Minkee, these are Tmob plans? Thanks.

aimfire72 said:
Minkee, these are Tmob plans? Thanks.
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Yes these are TMobile plans.

Ugh, went to a T-Mobile store near me tonight and neither of the clerks had any clue what I was talking about. Only thing they knew about was a 2-year contract plan for $40/month, which I think is actually the Tab plan. I'm just gonna need to call the main #, I have the sim that came in the box, hopefully they can activate it from there.

aimfire72 said:
Ugh, went to a T-Mobile store near me tonight and neither of the clerks had any clue what I was talking about. Only thing they knew about was a 2-year contract plan for $40/month, which I think is actually the Tab plan. I'm just gonna need to call the main #, I have the sim that came in the box, hopefully they can activate it from there.
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From what I remember, they have to program the SIM in-store or back at HQ/factory.

tekkitan said:
From what I remember, they have to program the SIM in-store or back at HQ/factory.
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Nope. Any SIM can be activated by giving them the number on the SIM card. I've done it with T-Mobile and at&t
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Going nuts over here, lol... called T-Mobile and no one knows anything... one guy even said they did not have 3G plans because they're going over to 4G now... try again tomorrow, lol
EDIT: It seems like a lot of those other plans may be grandfathered, looks like Tmob has raised prices and the month-to-month plans are a rip-off. I'm thinking of giving SimpleMobile a try with their $60/month-to-month, unlimited everything plan (uses Tmob's network)

I have the Even More Plus plan for $59 a month. 500 minutes/unlimited text/web
I had to call to get it - doesn't show on the website

Dunno what the problem is, just go to tmobile.com, go to Shop/Plans/Individual.
Type in your zipcode.
Then on the left, uncheck everything except "DATA ONLY"
You should see "Even More Smartphone Unlimited Web & E-mail" for $49.99/month

aimfire72 said:
Going nuts over here, lol... called T-Mobile and no one knows anything... one guy even said they did not have 3G plans because they're going over to 4G now... try again tomorrow, lol
EDIT: It seems like a lot of those other plans may be grandfathered, looks like Tmob has raised prices and the month-to-month plans are a rip-off. I'm thinking of giving SimpleMobile a try with their $60/month-to-month, unlimited everything plan (uses Tmob's network)
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Don't ask for a 3g plan, just ask for a data plan. If you get too specific you'll confuse the monkeys behind the counter

mingkee said:
You have few choices:
1. webconnect 5GB semi-unlimited: $40 a month (I use it with nexus one and NS)
#1 and #2 are Even More Plus internet plans.
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Thanks, this is what I went for. Had to call to ask for it and they were able to activate the sim that came with the NS. Was activated in about a minute, lol.

ATT Forcing HSPA+/4G Data ???

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ls.jsp?q_package=sku5100371&_requestid=618639
DataPro 2GB for HSPA+/4G Smartphone includes 2GB. Once 2GB is exceeded, an additional 1GB is automatically provided at a rate of $10 for each additional 1GB provided. Unused data usage does not carry over. For HSPA+/4G SmartPhones ONLY.
ATT is selling this type of data plan with the new ATRIX, what kind of impact could this have on us UNLIMITED 'Grandfathered' users that were thinking about buying the phone outright?
if i put my 3G card in, am i gonna get hosed? is ATT going to automatically try and switch my data plan to the 'required' plan for the 4G phone? even though i bought it outright? am i possibly going to have to fight to get the 'GFD' plan back after?
i know its all speculation at this point because the actual phone isnt out yet, but my gut tells me we might not like the answer...

I was wondering about the same thing, but I don't think we have to worry right now, I intend to get it then use it and in a month check, should they mess with me, I'll pull the information straight from their website with a datestamp that I printed stating that Grandfathered in gets to keep their plan. It really would be as simple as letting me keep it or I'll take my company off AT&T.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ls.jsp?q_package=sku5100371&_requestid=618639
DataPro 2GB for HSPA+/4G Smartphone includes 2GB. Once 2GB is exceeded, an additional 1GB is automatically provided at a rate of $10 for each additional 1GB provided. Unused data usage does not carry over. For HSPA+/4G SmartPhones ONLY.
ATT is selling this type of data plan with the new ATRIX, what kind of impact could this have on us UNLIMITED 'Grandfathered' users that were thinking about buying the phone outright?
if i put my 3G card in, am i gonna get hosed? is ATT going to automatically try and switch my data plan to the 'required' plan for the 4G phone? even though i bought it outright? am i possibly going to have to fight to get the 'GFD' plan back after?
i know its all speculation at this point because the actual phone isnt out yet, but my gut tells me we might not like the answer...
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naturefreak85 said:
I was wondering about the same thing, but I don't think we have to worry right now, I intend to get it then use it and in a month check, should they mess with me, I'll pull the information straight from their website with a datestamp that I printed stating that Grandfathered in gets to keep their plan. It really would be as simple as letting me keep it or I'll take my company off AT&T.
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I was able to "upgrade" to the Atrix and i checked the option that said "I do not want to make changes to my data plan" since i am grandfathered in as truly "unlimited".
I dont expect to see any changes once i put my SIM card in. They relaxed their "grandfather" clause a little recently and im guessing what i experienced is exactly that. before they FORCED you to change your plan. Now you have an option.

For people with unlimited plans, you can still keep it, it becomes an option on the data plan picker that only someone with an unlimited plan can see. And yes it is 4g ready. And no it doesn't cost any more money.
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It is not a problem at all.
All you have to do is swap the sim. cards and you are good to go. Your plan does not change at all and AT$T isn't going to penalize you.
They are losing 16% of their customers do to the iphone switch.

Yeah it won't be a problem switching from 3g to 4g unlimited ...I recently purchased the inspire all they did was change the code for the plan in the system for me,vi popped my sim card in and have hspa+ unlimited
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Trust me you can keep your unlimited data.
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I have a tangential question.
I know going over 2GB adds 1GB for $10 on Data Pro. But what if you exceed the 150mb on the Data lite? Does it auto bump you to 2GB and Data Pro for the month?

If you have the unlimited data theres a new HSPA+ version of the unlimited plan that your moved to
in regards to the $15 plan its actually 200mB, not 150, if you go over your charged another 15 for another 200, if you go over that your billed another 15 for 200 more and so forth
Lastly if your buying a device like the Atrix your a moron to think 200MB for an entire month is going to cut it, in my opinion that plan shouldnt even be offered

Hehe, so they charge you another $15 for 200MB but on the other plan its $10 for 1GB? Terrible.
I agree with you a 200MB plan likely wont get you anywhere unless you are covered by wi-fi everywhere you go and otherwise don't use data almost at all.
Also, how does tehthering work if you have a grandfathered unlimited plan? And could you not just root and use thethering without having the tetherming plan? Say if you were on the 2GB plan.

Ive never quite understood the covered everywhere by wifi don't have wifi driving or everywhere that you travel, unless you never leave the house
If you want tethering, officially through ATT you have to get the 45 dollar 4gb plan, and lose the unlimited
An app like PDAnet would be a solution for tethering to keep the unlim plan and you dont even need to be rooted to run it

I still have my unlimited data and my Inspire

smitty1 said:
It is not a problem at all.
All you have to do is swap the sim. cards and you are good to go. Your plan does not change at all and AT$T isn't going to penalize you.
They are losing 16% of their customers do to the iphone switch.
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lol you're absolutely insane if you believe that to be true. Every business analyst website worth its money on the internet is saying Verizon didn't make much of an impact with the release of the iPhone4. They sold a lot of iPhones...but an estimated 90% of them were to people that were already Verizon subscribers. The 1 million iPhones that they keep quoting was *ONLY* to pre-orders made by Verizon customers.
Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. AT&T already said before the phone was announced they would move grandfathered unlimited plans ahead with new contracts (same thing happened with their last launch).

I'm glad to hear that AT&T is allowing us to keep our grandfathered unlimited plans. I've been planning on moving up to Android with the Atrix but was dreading losing my unlimited data plan that I've got on my current iPhone 3G.
If everything works out like everyone here is saying then it looks like I'll get to have my cake and eat it too.

I plan on switching to this phone from my
Data Pro 2gb 3g - $25
And I am wondering if any fees will be applied if I swapped my sim into the Atrix.
Also I am switching my Captivate with someone that is upgrading and wonder if their 4g data be switched out with a 3g data plan because of the 3g Captivate
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weirdboy09 said:
I plan on switching to this phone from my
Data Pro 2gb 3g - $25
And I am wondering if any fees will be applied if I swapped my sim into the Atrix.
Also I am switching my Captivate with someone that is upgrading and wonder if their 4g data be switched out with a 3g data plan because of the 3g Captivate
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I asked ATT about a "4g plan", and to their knowledge it does not exist. There is a 25/month (or 15/mo if you are on the 200 mb) data plan. period. It doesnt matter if you are 3g or 4g or justin beiber 6g. Its all the same price and the same plan... for now.

Alright thanks lemme know any updates
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FALSE. I got my wife the inspire 4g, and yes, the rep changed her from unlimited data(captivate) to unlimited 4G data(inspire, atrix etc.). So yes, you do have to make a switch to "4G." Try taking your sim card straight from your captivate, or any other 3g phone and put it in the atrix, you can make calls and text, but no data connection.

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FALSE. I got my wife the inspire 4g, and yes, the rep changed her from unlimited data(captivate) to unlimited 4G data(inspire, atrix etc.). So yes, you do have to make a switch to "4G." Try taking your sim card straight from your captivate, or any other 3g phone and put it in the atrix, you can make calls and text, but no data connection.
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Did you get the Inspire 4G before AT&T relaxed their "Unlimited Grandfather in clause"? If o, that may have been your problem. Recently (2 months or so) they have said that if you have real unlimited plan and upgrade, you can keep your plan. You dont have to change. This is different to what they were saying when the iPHone 4 came out. Get iPhone 4 and you NEED to change your plan.
Also in regards to just putting in your SIM card into an Atrix, Do you have one? Did you try this? Or are you basing this on your Inspire experience?

No dice on keeping "unlimited" plan!
My current ATT Blackberry Data plan is "unlimited" and shows up like this on the Premiere site:
GPRS WAP/BBRY UNLTD DOM - BBUB
I called to confirm that I would be able to keep my n=unlimited plan and they told me that it would be changed to the 2gb-$25 4G plan immediately upon power up of the Atrix... AND that I could not go back to the unlimited plan even if I return the Atrix within 30 days!
Is the above one of the "grandfathered" plans? And if so, how is everyone else here managing to keep their plan?

Heads Up For AT&T Data

Just a heads up for GSM owners. I tried to get a data plan with AT&T today and after over an hour on the phone they told me that the only "data only" plan their system can add for the note 10.1 is a 5gb plan for $50. If you want the 3gb plan you also need a voice plan.

PMentior said:
Just a heads up for GSM owners. I tried to get a data plan with AT&T today and after over an hour on the phone they told me that the only "data only" plan their system can add for the note 10.1 is a 5gb plan for $50. If you want the 3gb plan you also need a voice plan.
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If you already have a plan with AT&T you can add the Note to your existing account as a non-Smartphone device. It's $9.99 for the extra device and $10 for unlimited HSPA+ data which isn't throttled or soft-capped because you're using the Cingular (3G) APN vs. the Phone (4G) APN. If you don't have unlimited messaging on the account the data is $15 vs. $10. The Note can share the plan minutes that are on the account for voice calls. Since the 3G Note is a foriegn device AT&T doesn't track the IMEI and can't detect that it's not just a dumb phone.

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If you already have a plan with AT&T you can add the Note to your existing account as a non-Smartphone device. It's $9.99 for the extra device and $10 for unlimited HSPA+ data which isn't throttled or soft-capped because you're using the Cingular (3G) APN vs. the Phone (4G) APN. If you don't have unlimited messaging on the account the data is $15 vs. $10. The Note can share the plan minutes that are on the account for voice calls. Since the 3G Note is a foriegn device AT&T doesn't track the IMEI and can't detect that it's not just a dumb phone.
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PMentior, BarryH_GEG is correct. If you already have an account with AT&T, just say it is a non-smartphone and will work great. I tested using my SIM card from my SIII and works great. I did noitce that indeed APN shows as Cingular, so like Barry mention you will have unlimited data. Here is a video of the Galaxy Note 10.1 I did, to show how to use it as hotspot and make phone calls.

Thanks for the replies. I know that I could get it set up with the media but plan but thats not really what I was going for. I don't need data on it too often, only when I go on a trip. With the tablet plans being no commitment I could pick it up only for a month here or there when I need it. With the media net plan it seems like I would be paying every month for services I don't need.
From my talk with att it seems like their system isn't seeing it as a valid tablet yet but I assume that would change in the coming months when the LTE version is released. Maybe I'll try again later but for now it is a case of something I would like to have but I know I don't need it.
As a side note I tried a prepaid tmobile data sim and I do get coverage but only edge speeds. I wish tmobile didn't use weird frequency bands for their data as the setup for the data sim was super fast and easy. If only att could be more like that.
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Oh I see. Have you tried getting a pre-paid SIM card for a non-smartphone. I haven't checked into those yet, but if it does work with whatever plans they have, you could use a months worth and pay as you need it.
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Unlimited Data @ ATT for only $15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW4h1tOAsg4
Wasn't sure if this worked, and if you actually order the phone, wouldn't you have to pay for the plan?

I believe att can detect your phone and will automatically put you on a corresponding iPhone (bull****) plan, not 100% sure though, I do know that international phones can be used on the Medianet dumbphone data plan though.

This is very interesting and I am really thinking about trying it out. The only bummer is you ahve to by a phone just to get the sim card. If anyone tries this out let us know how it goes and if I try it out first I will let you know.

OK I Activate AT&T Phones Daily and of my best friends works at a AT&T Call Center, so here's some FAQ
Is it really unlimited data for $15?
Yes it is Unlimited Data for any Basic AT&T Phone, but if your trying to use it with a smart phone and use like 8GB of Data in a month they will be suspect
Will it work with a Smartphone?
Yes and no, If your using a AT&T Model Phone AT&T Will either block data or in most cases add the data package
If you have a T-Mobile Unlocked Phone or a Unlocked International GSM Phone it will not be in AT&T's System so you won't be flagged
Do you have to do anything to make it work?
Well Yes APN, you have to use the MediaNet APN, The normal 4G and LTE APNS will not work
Also to note Many New Go Phone Sim Cards are now Married to the phones IMEI they ship with and will not work in another phone unless you get a sim unlock code, I have verified this with the $19 Samsung Flip phone ZTE Z431, ZTEAvail, and the AT&T Fusion, I tried the sim card that came with the phones in my Galaxy S II Skyrocket, Samsung Vibrant and Samsung Propel

Thank you for your investigation, saved me the time I would've spent asking questions and searching for answers.

Well what I want to know is, if you buy one of those messaging phones for $0.01 on the 2 year contract like the video says, so that you get the sim, won't you have to pay for the 2 yr contract regardless? Or do they not charge you unless you activate it?

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Well what I want to know is, if you buy one of those messaging phones for $0.01 on the 2 year contract like the video says, so that you get the sim, won't you have to pay for the 2 yr contract regardless? Or do they not charge you unless you activate it?
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Yes you would, You would be required to commit to a 2 year contract and would have to at Minimum have the 450 Min for $39.99 and the $20 Unlimited Texting or $0.20 Per Text Message and the $15 Basic Phone Data Package so that video isn't really correct..
If you want "Unlimited Smartphone on AT&T then the Straight Talk Sim Cards are a much better way to go, For $45 a month you have Unlimited Talk, Text, Web, Data, I setup a Friend with a Galaxy S Captivate on it and he has the Full 3G Speeds and has had months he's hit 6GB and never had a Issue, The only thing you have to watch for is if you want to do the Wireless Hotspot, It is against the TOS to do Hotspot but you can Use Wifi Tether For Root Users and it will show as Mobile Web Usage so they won't bug you.
You can get the Straight Talk Sims in Both Full Size and Micro Sim Versions for Both AT&T and T-Mobile, and if you put the AT&T Sim in a AT&T Phone you don't even have to unlock it to work, I've setup Go Phones, iPhones, HTC Sensation 4G, HTC Mytouch 4G, Samsung Captivate, AT&T Avail http://straighttalksim.com/shop.php

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Yes you would, You would be required to commit to a 2 year contract and would have to at Minimum have the 450 Min for $39.99 and the $20 Unlimited Texting or $0.20 Per Text Message and the $15 Basic Phone Data Package so that video isn't really correct..
If you want "Unlimited Smartphone on AT&T then the Straight Talk Sim Cards are a much better way to go, For $45 a month you have Unlimited Talk, Text, Web, Data, I setup a Friend with a Galaxy S Captivate on it and he has the Full 3G Speeds and has had months he's hit 6GB and never had a Issue, The only thing you have to watch for is if you want to do the Wireless Hotspot, It is against the TOS to do Hotspot but you can Use Wifi Tether For Root Users and it will show as Mobile Web Usage so they won't bug you.
You can get the Straight Talk Sims in Both Full Size and Micro Sim Versions for Both AT&T and T-Mobile, and if you put the AT&T Sim in a AT&T Phone you don't even have to unlock it to work, I've setup Go Phones, iPhones, HTC Sensation 4G, HTC Mytouch 4G, Samsung Captivate, AT&T Avail http://straighttalksim.com/shop.php
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So you have to pay $55 a month? That video is completely pointless...

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So you have to pay $55 a month? That video is completely pointless...
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Ok guys so I found an about 8 month old ATT sim that's never been activated, and I just got an ATT manager to give me an unnactivated sim. Is there anyway I can use either of these on the plan?