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Which do you guys prefer?
When choosing Voodoo kernels or OC kernels
lagfix hands down
i prefer both at the same time.. but if i can only go with one i'd go with lagfix myself
it really doesnt matter...you COULD have both if you know what you're doin...me personally im running a lagfix....
My cpu can't handle the OC so I don't even bother. Just use a lagfix, you really don't need to overclock. It's not like we use our phones for scientific computing.
I've tryed all three ways.
I've found that some of the newer roms run just fine without either, but at the moment I'm only running overclock.(1.12 ghz)
just before this I was running 1.3 GHZ overclock and JFS advanced lagfix and I really dont see a ton of difference beyond benchmark scores and battery drainage lol.
although addmittedly it is fun to show off your benchmark scores :-D
in real life performance you probably wont notice much difference.
but try all three ways and see which you like better I'm sure some people really do have a need for overclock and lagfix, heck, if I could find a way to compile the android os from my phone I'd probably want the extra power :-D
but just find whats right for you
I am by no means an expert on this hardware, but as with any device you are only ever as fast as the system that bottle necks first. From what I have been able to gather thus far, on the Vibrant, that is I/O hands down. The rest of the hardware keeps up with most tasks quite well, and the lag fix helps to alleviate the bottlenecks in I/O by speeding up the read/write operations fairly well.
That would be where I put my money. Overclock sounds cool, but on these phones seems unnecessary.
Just my 2/100 of a $
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Which do you guys prefer?
When choosing Voodoo kernels or OC kernels
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Choosing one or the other is stupid, use both! Voodoo was a good idea months ago but it's outdated now, stop using it. Use a kernel like the one in my sig, it supports Ext4 lagfix (just like voodoo) AND overclocking, it's stable, and you won't softbrick if you flash over it.
Looking for a stable rom with improved battery life for my wifes evo shift. What are the best options available?
I'd put this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953293
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Looking for a stable rom with improved battery life for my wifes evo shift. What are the best options available?
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why dont you just root it and apply OC kernel and get rid of the bloatware? mine runs smooth as hell on stock rom
i'll 2nd the mikshift rom and also the bcnice oc kernel (& setcpu) after loading the rom
the processor runs at 250'ish mhz when not being used then jumps up to a nice snappy 1.5ghz undervolted any time its being used
the speeds are completely configurable go as high or as low as you like under certain conditions or keep it stock at a constant 800mhz
foxsdaddy67 said:
why dont you just root it and apply OC kernel and get rid of the bloatware? mine runs smooth as hell on stock rom
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Whats an OC kernal?
OC stands for over-clocking, so a kernel that has the ability to be over-clocked, aka, run faster than the factory settings
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...the bcnice oc kernel (& setcpu) after loading the rom
the processor runs at 250'ish mhz when not being used then jumps up to a nice snappy 1.5ghz undervolted any time its being used
the speeds are completely configurable go as high or as low as you like under certain conditions or keep it stock at a constant 800mhz
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^This is what I am running and I have enjoyed it thus far. Stable so far, I did get a couple really minor graphic glitches (possibly unrelated but was at 1.8ghz) but all around it runs great at 1.8.
Telion007 said:
^This is what I am running and I have enjoyed it thus far. Stable so far, I did get a couple really minor graphic glitches (possibly unrelated but was at 1.8ghz) but all around it runs great at 1.8.
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Any Battery issues? I'm thinking of applying an OC Kernel but not if it drains my battery too much.
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Any Battery issues? I'm thinking of applying an OC Kernel but not if it drains my battery too much.
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The kernels are undervolted...where the voltage of the processor is lowered to have better battery life and performance..so its better for you..even if you stay running at 806mhz
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I second KILO, I know some people hate the Sense UI but there are alot of people that like it. My wife specifically got this phone just for Friend Stream. Root + Stock Rom + OC Kernel is really a great combo and verry stable. Getting rid of the bloatware will make you feel good, but the phone runs well with it, so it is not essential. However every sprint phone I get the first thing to go is Nascar and Football app, ESPN is better imho.
I personally like the AOSP look and feel
I've been a Nexus S owner for about a month now and it's the best Android phone I've owned so far. If it had an LED notification light and better build quality it would probably be perfect in my book. Anyways, the phone has been extremely fast for me. This is also the first Android phone I've had no interest in rooting because everything works as I want it to stock.
I'm just wondering, is it worth it to root and overclock this phone? Does overclocking really improve the speed that much? Also does Voodoo really give noticeable improvements to the sound and screen?
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I've been a Nexus S owner for about a month now and it's the best Android phone I've owned so far. If it had an LED notification light and better build quality it would probably be perfect in my book. Anyways, the phone has been extremely fast for me. This is also the first Android phone I've had no interest in rooting because everything works as I want it to stock.
I'm just wondering, is it worth it to root and overclock this phone? Does overclocking really improve the speed that much? Also does Voodoo really give noticeable improvements to the sound and screen?
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yes, yes, and a huge yes to voodoo sound
For me personally, my NS goes up to 1,4Ghz flawlessly and stable and in my (probably subjective) opinion, it did speed up the flicking through my large app drawer list, for example.
Basic things like browsing, texting, opening e-mails etc are pretty much the same, it's barely noticable. Probably because the stock NS is so fast and smooth, the few percents of added speed you gain by overclocking aren't really noticable.
The main thing is the battery life though, it'll drain the battery significantly and so it's up to you whether or not you want to have your phone running a tad faster but not make it through the day, or have it go normal and last the day.
I would always root your phone.
Since you mention the missing backlight notification, if you flash your kernel to say, for example, Netarchy 1.3.12, you can install a small app that's called "BLN". It turns the 4 buttons into a notification light by blinking them on notifications, works perfect.
Also, many people prefer CM7 over the stock Android because of the added functionalities; one more reason to root your phone
I haven't noticed anything about the voodoo sound/display, maybe someone else can pick in here.
Greetz
Trust me in that you will love your phone more if you do. I don't notice the change in speed but voodoo control is a must. You'll be able to adjust the colours on your screen to make your phone POP!
The badass thing about rooting it is that it fixes the notification light problem. All you have to do is flash a kernel with BLN compatibility (Nearly all of them have it) and download the BLN app from the market.
Every time you get a new notification the bottom four buttons flash on and off
Also like Simms said, you also get Voodoo colors which make the screen colors much much better then stock.
I personally don't overclock because like you said the phone is already so damn fast =)
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I do not overclock my CPU. I don't get any noticeable benefit from it (other than increased Quadrant scores). I tend the opposite way.... I'd rather reduce power for longer battery life, so I undervolt.
Voodoo is worth flashing a custom kernel for, in my opinion. Keep in mind you do not have to root to flash a custom kernel. You only have to unlock the bootloader with one simple command.
I know what you mean about not wanting to even root. I only rooted so I could take screenshots with Shoot Me app. But I use the stock Rom and probably always will
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I do not overclock my CPU. I don't get any noticeable benefit from it (other than increased Quadrant scores). I tend the opposite way.... I'd rather reduce power for longer battery life, so I undervolt.
Voodoo is worth flashing a custom kernel for, in my opinion. Keep in mind you do not have to root to flash a custom kernel. You only have to unlock the bootloader with one simple command.
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well, since the bootloader is unlocked, why doesn't root?! =oP
in my opinion, the bad thing in flashing things is because it is addictive, you can't stop anymore. I lived fine with stock for two months, and now i can't stay a week without flash something.
as a matter of fact, you can have voodoo sound in stock kernel, just use the pay app, and if you own a slcd version (like me), you won't need voodoo colors. So the missing and must have is BLN and that was the first reason i root this thing! =o)
and btw, for me, the device is fast enought and i really like to finish the day with my phone still alive, so i don't oc it! =o)
I have noticed that everyone seems to talk about bln but does no one like the no led app? It does well for me...just wondering because I'm new to the S but not android
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I have noticed that everyone seems to talk about bln but does no one like the no led app? It does well for me...just wondering because I'm new to the S but not android
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bln is universal (works in scld and samoled screens) and uses A LOT less battery than no led...
frutelaken said:
For me personally, my NS goes up to 1,4Ghz flawlessly and stable and in my (probably subjective) opinion, it did speed up the flicking through my large app drawer list, for example.
Basic things like browsing, texting, opening e-mails etc are pretty much the same, it's barely noticable. Probably because the stock NS is so fast and smooth, the few percents of added speed you gain by overclocking aren't really noticable.
The main thing is the battery life though, it'll drain the battery significantly and so it's up to you whether or not you want to have your phone running a tad faster but not make it through the day, or have it go normal and last the day.
I would always root your phone.
Since you mention the missing backlight notification, if you flash your kernel to say, for example, Netarchy 1.3.12, you can install a small app that's called "BLN". It turns the 4 buttons into a notification light by blinking them on notifications, works perfect.
Also, many people prefer CM7 over the stock Android because of the added functionalities; one more reason to root your phone
I haven't noticed anything about the voodoo sound/display, maybe someone else can pick in here.
Greetz
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what is your setup to OC to 1.4? Currently I am running the I9020A at 1200 mhz on stock 2.3.4 with netarchy kernel, latest stable version. slightly over volted. however, it still freezes when i play videos with moboplayer. I havent been able to find a stable OC @ 1.4. It will reset and freeze overnight when idle
anyone else's input is welcome
thiagodark said:
bln is universal (works in scld and samoled screens) and uses A LOT less battery than no led...
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This is truth. No LED does drain the battery quite a bit if you aren't able to dismiss a notification right away. That really hurt me a few times which is why after a few weeks I switched to BLN and haven't looked back.
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what is your setup to OC to 1.4? Currently I am running the I9020A at 1200 mhz on stock 2.3.4 with netarchy kernel, latest stable version. slightly over volted. however, it still freezes when i play videos with moboplayer. I havent been able to find a stable OC @ 1.4. It will reset and freeze overnight when idle
anyone else's input is welcome
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For my Phone i've never been able to handle 1.4 ever. I run mine at 1.3 and have no issues. Going to 1.4 makes my phone lock up. Every phone is different it seems.
For the record I'm running CM7 7.0.3 and Netarchy BFS 1.3.4.
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I was running Netarchy 1.3.0.2 BFS a few weeks ago. Without doing anything fancy, I could overclock to 1,4 using setCPU and it ran smoothly. I9023, GRI40 and CM7.
But, that kernel version doesn't support BLN so I had to upgrade and I chose the Netarchy 1.3.0.12 CFS and I have to admit (I just tested), I get lock-ups and reboots using 1,4 now.
Many people say it's device related, but I'm convinced the kernel has a lot to do with it as well. I don't know if BFS is the reason or not, it never ran stable on my device (even on stock speeds) and I'm much more satisfied with CFS's stability, but I think that's personal as well
Greetz
1.4 my phone just locks up.
1.2 and 1.3 are about the same for me: random reboots several times a day, with minimal if any noticeable improvement in performance in day to day activities.
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I recently tried overclocking. I found that my phone can barely handle 1.2Ghz. Forget 1.4Ghz. I tried 1.1Ghz and it seemed stable enough but I didn't see any real world benefit from it. Right now I've settled on netarchy 1.3.4 bfs and cyanogen nightlies running at stock clock 1Ghz. Phone is stable, responsive, battery life seems good and voodoo sound is great.
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Trying overclocking now. Phone seems to handle even 1.4 pretty decently. Not noticing any problems. 3393 on Quadrant, nice and peppy. I don't know if the draw on batter life is really worth it. I'll probably drop back down to 1.2 max 400 min. That seems to be a sweet spot.
Running OpenSoju 0.2.6 with the included netarchy kernel.
Hello all!
Just upgraded my wife from the MyTouch 3G Slide to the G2 as she has to have a keyboard and we were on our 5th replacement Slide. So, as she is not the geek that I am, she will not be constantly flashing new ROMs and such. However, I am going to at least install the latest CM and I am looking for kernel suggestions. I already have root, s-off, new hboot, and all that, I'm just waiting for CM7 to finish downloading.
I started using Android with the G1 and constantly updating Radios, as well as ROMs and I currently use a Samsung Vibrant running a TeamWhiskey ROM. It's stable as anything, I like the theme, and CM7 still has some broken stuff on the Vibrant. I'm glad to see that Eugene recently picked up a G2 as he made some bad ass kernels and ROMs for the Vibrant.
So, let's here those kernel recommendations and why you recommend them.
Thanks!
Well am currently using mexdroidmod and their kernel is pretty awesome because its fast and stable. My best advice is to test the diffrent kernel and read through the tread, see what people say about it. All the kernels I have tried are all awesome so you should try them
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pershoot's kernel. great batt life and OCing
Umaro's kernel has been rock solid for me and has tons of features as well. You can OC all the way to 1.9 Ghz if you so please and it has smartass.
well considering your wife isn't much of a techie.. i say you should go with pershoots kernel because he's always releasing updates and i've never had a problem with any of them. the battery life is excellent if you use the right radio (.17 and .30 have been good to me), but you need to experiment with this though. the phone runs beautifully, just make sure you use superwipe+ to format/wipe so you don't end up with gps issues like many people have had, good luck!
I've run umaro, eugene, pershoot, flippy, pyro, etc etc... aaand I've decided that the provided kernel is pretty much good to go. yeah, there are some little trinkety things with a few of the above kernels that the standard CM7 kernel doesn't support... but honestly, they're worthless to a user who just wants to turn the phone on and have it work.
set her up with the stock kernel @ 245-1017 (I haven't found a reason yet to ditch the ondemand governor, it seems to work best with CM7) and a vanilla gingerbread launcher and she'll be blown away.. that's my $.02
Like said above, CM kernel is great. I've tried most or even all available kernels for CM and finaly decided to stick with original one. It's stable and supports OC (up to 1.5GHz) "out of box", so really, I see no single reason to use the other ones.
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Like said above, CM kernel is great. I've tried most or even all available kernels for CM and finaly decided to stick with original one. It's stable and supports OC (up to 1.5GHz) "out of box", so really, I see no single reason to use the other ones.
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I'm also thinking about changing the kernal, but only for smartass. Does smartass offer that much of an increase on battery life or anything else? Also, when you OC, do you use SetCPU or just CyanogenMod Settings?
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I'm also thinking about changing the kernal, but only for smartass. Does smartass offer that much of an increase on battery life or anything else? Also, when you OC, do you use SetCPU or just CyanogenMod Settings?
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not at all pooping on any of the guys who swear by smartass/other governors, but the change in battery life is almost unnoticable for me.. the change in performance however can be pretty apparent.
here's my problem with "battery saving" governors:
in order to save battery, these governors are supposed to be more intelligent about which frequencies they select once a task is called... well, that's all well and dandy, but the problem is that the majority of battery-hogging apps (ie streaming music/video, gaming, browsing for a long time, being on the phone, etc) are still going to be battery hogs with or without a fancy governor. the governor isn't capable of making an app that needs a lot of processing power run well at a lower frequency, it can only try to be more selective about which frequencies it uses in order to attempt to save battery life.
additionally, most people use their phones like this: phone is idle (ie screen off), and a call arrives. call ends, phone is back to idle. texting a few people, back to idle. playing a game for 15 minutes, back to idle.
is it really logical to assume that these short bursts of activity are going to benefit at all from a fancy shmancy governor? I doubt it.
I still swear by ondemand or interactive (both work well for me) thru built-in settings if possible (ie cyanogen performance settings). second choice would be setcpu with no profiles (unless you're overclocking heavily, then you should at least have a temp warning profile). at this point, screen-off profiles don't do a damn bit of good, because pretty much every kernel we have for the vision is going to scale down during inactivity.
which kernel out there is the best right now? in battery life and speed
theres only one that fits best battery and fastest.. trinity kernel.
I like Trinity but Motley also did very well for me.
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theres only that fits best battery and fastest.. trinity kernel.
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This^ look at it this way. The nexus allready has great performance, it will handle any game you throw at it. (Unless not optimized for tegra 3) so wht else do you need? A kernel that gives amazing battery life. And what kernel is that..... \l/ TRINITY \l/
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TRINITY without a doubt!!! Fast as hell and almost unbelievable battery life!
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Trinity IMHO....
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battery right now..
speed..
Ill say motley. I tried trinity kernel. Its good. But I getbetter performance,stability, and battery life with motley. All these battery screen shots really mean nothing. Why? Because none show real heavy use. I can easily get the same stats or better with light to moderate use. Show me some stats showing 8-10+ hrs of screen on time. With some heavy app or game usge. Anyone can use device for a few hours. Then leave it in deep sleep and show the same or better stats.
I've tried all the kernels out so far. They are all good. Its a matter of personal preference of features you want. Some pack things others don't. MOTLEY 'S ATM is the only linaro based kernel. So its using new additions/components. Better optimized. Benchmarks are cool but its real world performance that matters most.
I'm running stock rom with motley latest linaro based kernel with Zram, then CPU overclock @ 1.624ghz and gpu overclock @ 520mhz. I'm also undervolted -75mV across the board. So my temps stay low. Which equates to my device running at a higher performance speed longer.
The best thing about stock rom is I can measly flash different kernels and not have to worry about flashing a rom and setting my apps n all THST all over again. I can flash a kernel with no wipes and be good. Plus stock rom is the most stable ATM. Can't lie though, I am anxious to flash some roms. THST paranoid Android one looks really good. Along with the pure linaro based rom. That's the great thing about choices.
Its not a matter of who has the best kernel. Its more about what you looking for in features and personalizing your device to cater to our needs.
Asking who has the best kernel is like asking who is the best developer on xda. I don't think that's fair to the developers as they ALL work hard on roms or kernels. Forget the popularity contests.
THEY ALL THE BEST lol. Some are just more seasoned than others. Which is OK. I love the fact we have variety of things to choose from. I've been impressed with trinity kernel, based on scores I've been seeing. But I'm also impressed with faux kernel and its a more straight forward one with lots of new Linux commits and additions. All the kernels have a personality of their own. I love the fact that twrp makes it very easy n simple to try out any kernel I want for nexus7. No matter who makes it. Every developer has its followers. You also have people who like to try out different setups.
Choice is a good thing! That's what I love about Android.
I've got to say for me trinity is the best kernel for the Nexus 7, updated daily and great communication with the dev makes this an awesome kernel. The trinity toolbox app is the icing on the cake.
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Ill say motley. I tried trinity kernel. Its good. But I getbetter performance,stability, and battery life with motley. All these battery screen shots really mean nothing. Why? Because none show real heavy use. I can easily get the same stats or better with light to moderate use. Show me some stats showing 8-10+ hrs of screen on time. With some heavy app or game usge. Anyone can use device for a few hours. Then leave it in deep sleep and show the same or better stats.
I've tried all the kernels out so far. They are all good. Its a matter of personal preference of features you want. Some pack things others don't. MOTLEY 'S ATM is the only linaro based kernel. So its using new additions/components. Better optimized. Benchmarks are cool but its real world performance that matters most.
I'm running stock rom with motley latest linaro based kernel with Zram, then CPU overclock @ 1.624ghz and gpu overclock @ 520mhz. I'm also undervolted -75mV across the board. So my temps stay low. Which equates to my device running at a higher performance speed longer.
The best thing about stock rom is I can measly flash different kernels and not have to worry about flashing a rom and setting my apps n all THST all over again. I can flash a kernel with no wipes and be good. Plus stock rom is the most stable ATM. Can't lie though, I am anxious to flash some roms. THST paranoid Android one looks really good. Along with the pure linaro based rom. That's the great thing about choices.
Its not a matter of who has the best kernel. Its more about what you looking for in features and personalizing your device to cater to our needs.
Asking who has the best kernel is like asking who is the best developer on xda. I don't think that's fair to the developers as they ALL work hard on roms or kernels. Forget the popularity contests.
THEY ALL THE BEST lol. Some are just more seasoned than others. Which is OK. I love the fact we have variety of things to choose from. I've been impressed with trinity kernel, based on scores I've been seeing. But I'm also impressed with faux kernel and its a more straight forward one with lots of new Linux commits and additions. All the kernels have a personality of their own. I love the fact that twrp makes it very easy n simple to try out any kernel I want for nexus7. No matter who makes it. Every developer has its followers. You also have people who like to try out different setups.
Choice is a good thing! That's what I love about Android.
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1. trinity kernel has been using linaro since april of 2011, on the nexus s, the gnex, and now the nexus 7.
2. zram is a placibo. theres nothing there
3. stock rom is good, but i prefer a pure aosp build. no, they are not the same.
4. and the last two paragraphs are the absolute truth.
5. really, you should try them all, let your device tell you which kernel it likes the best
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1. trinity kernel has been using linaro since april of 2011, on the nexus s, the gnex, and now the nexus 7.
2. zram is a placibo. theres nothing there
3. stock rom is good, but i prefer a pure aosp build. no, they are not the same.
4. and the last two paragraphs are the absolute truth.
5. really, you should try them all, let your device tell you which kernel it likes the best
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Thing with zram is, its not for getting higher benchmark scores or immediate performance. Its more so for heavy multitasking. Is been proven to help. The placebo is on people who think its supposed to provide some immediate result. If someone is a heavy multitasker on their device, then zram would benefit them. If you not much of a multitasker, then zram will show no Bendix for you.
You are right though, about trying out different kernels and such. Pure aosp rom sounds good. I just hate having to reset up my apps n stuff. I know titanium good for that but me personally, I'm waiting for roms to mature more and have most things, of not everything working. All roms so far seem to have something not working yet. Which is fine. Nature of the beast.
I think I might give trinity kernel another try. I did buy the tkt app. But never used it in conjunction with the kernel. I bought it just for the automatic script it runs..lol plus to show support. I heard tkt app works best with trinity kernel plus allows you to tweak features only in trinity kernel.
Ill download the latest build Trinity has and see what's up. Performance and better battery life is always a good thing. Its gpu is overclocked to 520mhz also?
Trinity HANDS DOWN its been 3 hours on sleep and ITS still at 100%! + the ridiculous speed along with the power saving features. I may be new to the Nexus 7 scene but this is hands down to godly .
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Thing with zram is, its not for getting higher benchmark scores or immediate performance. Its more so for heavy multitasking. Is been proven to help. The placebo is on people who think its supposed to provide some immediate result. If someone is a heavy multitasker on their device, then zram would benefit them. If you not much of a multitasker, then zram will show no Bendix for you.
You are right though, about trying out different kernels and such. Pure aosp rom sounds good. I just hate having to reset up my apps n stuff. I know titanium good for that but me personally, I'm waiting for roms to mature more and have most things, of not everything working. All roms so far seem to have something not working yet. Which is fine. Nature of the beast.
I think I might give trinity kernel another try. I did buy the tkt app. But never used it in conjunction with the kernel. I bought it just for the automatic script it runs..lol plus to show support. I heard tkt app works best with trinity kernel plus allows you to tweak features only in trinity kernel.
Ill download the latest build Trinity has and see what's up. Performance and better battery life is always a good thing. Its gpu is overclocked to 520mhz also?
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im not sure if gpus oc...but when u underclock..theres absolutely no performance difference..and saves battery too! 102mhz-1100mhz on demand/deadline..god like battery life. 4 hours screen time...still 45% left...shouldve been more if i didnt flash roms in between battery life. also under clocked, gta 3 and cs portable runs great and smooth still.
thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
so it doesnt matter if trinity is still in experimental? its that good? i guess ill try that one out
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thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
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there are more features that are going to be added, theyre being added all the time. ask gnex owners how the options grew(same app btw, different devices running trinity see different features in the app. so you purchase it once, and use it on multi devices. btw, voltage adjustment will be added, remember how new development is on the n7. also, if other developers added the options into their kernels, theyed be able to use those features with their kernels
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azoller1 said:
so it doesnt matter if trinity is still in experimental? its that good? i guess ill try that one out
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thats just trinitys method of rotating the kernels.. starts off in experimental(every kernel is tested to boot and run before it every appears here), then it graduates to prerelease if it makes the cut, and then if you guys like it it makes its way to release. its just that trinity development is so new here that there isnt a prerelease yet
jarjar124 said:
im not sure if gpus oc...but when u underclock..theres absolutely no performance difference..and saves battery too! 102mhz-1100mhz on demand/deadline..god like battery life. 4 hours screen time...still 45% left...shouldve been more if i didnt flash roms in between battery life. also under clocked, gta 3 and cs portable runs great and smooth still.
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I've underclocked mines to 1.1ghz also. battery doesn't want to budge from 100% so far..lol. it's barley sipping battery. the UI and browser is fluid n smooth at this underclock. which is a good thing. the real test will come once I play nova3 shortly. if it plays lag free on this lower speed then underclocking is a winner. I set my governor to interactive though. you get better battery life than ondemand. using deadline also. with fsync set to faster.
simms22 said:
there are more features that are going to be added, theyre being added all the time. ask gnex owners how the options grew(same app btw, different devices running trinity see different features in the app. so you purchase it once, and use it on multi devices. btw, voltage adjustment will be added, remember how new development is on the n7. also, if other developers added the options into their kernels, theyed be able to use those features with their kernels
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thats just trinitys method of rotating the kernels.. starts off in experimental(every kernel is tested to boot and run before it every appears here), then it graduates to prerelease if it makes the cut, and then if you guys like it it makes its way to release. its just that trinity development is so new here that there isnt a prerelease yet
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I understand nexus 7 is still infancy, developement wise. its cool. just wondering if those features were included since the option disappeared. I could undervolt or increase voltage on motley kernel. the tkt app would let me do it on THST kernel as the section shows for it. but I like using system tuner for undervolting when I was on motleys kernel. can't wait to see what new features get added. plus once I get my new phone, hopefully there'll be a trinity kernel out for it so I can use tkt app with it. the build is very good.
demandarin said:
thanks to simms, I tried out trinity again. I flashed the latest builds. ran some benchmarks. for some reason, my device doesn't like the highest speed on benchmarks. it kept rebooting during them. so I stayed at 1.5ghz. governor I used was performance and on demand. for scheduler I ran with deadline. i forced cpu online and put fysnc on faster, thanks to TKT app. on quadrant, I was more concerned with seeing if I could achieve those crazy high I/O scores. which I did. my overall score was good but I've gotten higher on motley. it could be higher on this kernel if I get the 1.6ghz+ speed to stick. I was more impressed with my rl sqlite benchmark test. scored 18 seconds overall. which blows away the competition.
so I'm impressed with latest version of kernel. definitely better than the older build I ran of it from before. some things I've noticed though. where is the ability to undervolt at? no option in tkt app and the voltages tab disappeared from system tuner. also, this build gpu isn't overclocked. or might be better for me to say its definitely not running at 520mhz. I could tell this by the fps from quadrant. its running 59-60fps. on motley with 520mhz gpu I get 70-80+fps. just some things I noticed. not necessarily drawbacks. kernel runs very good. just got to figure how to make higher speed stick. since I can't seem to adjust voltages on this build, I can't increase voltage or undervolt it. if this can be done on trinity kernel, let me know how. its not showing voltages in tkt app or system tuner.
overall very good kernel. will run it for a while to see how battery life is. I will likely underclock it like above poster mentioned for best battery life. I noticed nexus 7 still runs great underclocked. no lag.,no matter what kernel I'm using.
I've attached screenshots of my benches on latest trinity overclocked @ 1.5ghz. I know my device can take 1.6ghz cuz on motley I can run the speed fine, even through benches. so have to see why its not taking on trinity kernel. maybe voltage needs to be increased.
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Interesting, 70-80fps, more than the panel.
You were interested in battery in an earlier post, this is me feeling meh and couching most of Sunday.
EDIT: Yes, emailing, tapatalk, browsing for laptop and not finding any, reading news in Pulse and flipboard, tweetcaster and testing slice(s?), gtalk, not heavy usage obviously. Screen wasn't on unless The Seven was used though.
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morfic said:
Interesting, 70-80fps, more than the panel.
You were interested in battery in an earlier post, this is me feeling meh and couching most of Sunday.
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what is this?? 7hrs screen time and 30%??
jarjar124 said:
what is this?? 7hrs screen time and 30%??
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Expect no less.