[Q] Run Modern/Metro UI apps on the desktop? - Windows 8 General

Hello fellow Windows 8 users!
Not sure if this should be in development, but i was wondering if it was possible to run the Metro/ Modern UI apps on the dektop screen in a window? It seems the new office does this and I really liked it. I find it extremely annoying using a fullscreen app on a 24" screen on my desktop PC.
The new Windows literally kills windows. I don't get why they would do this to desktop users.

Office 2013 is desktop apps, not modern apps.

I understand that, I'm just using it as a reference for what I'm looking for. Its a desktop app but its in the style of a metro app that runs in a window and I want to know if there's a way to run real metro apps in a window.

I'm with you on this one. It would be nice especially with a dual-monitor setup. Anyone know if this is possible?

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I understand that, I'm just using it as a reference for what I'm looking for. Its a desktop app but its in the style of a metro app that runs in a window and I want to know if there's a way to run real metro apps in a window.
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It would require hacking up a large portion of the OS. I don't think it will ever happen, if only because the metro apps can almost all be downloaded as regular desktop apps/browser windows. Netflix, Skype, etc...why go to all the trouble porting them when they already exist independent of the new UI.

This doesn't exactly answer your question, but have you played with Snap mode?
You are limited to a narrow, 400px width snap area (left or right side of the screen) and can only have one app/application running in the Snap area, but it is the only out-of-the-box way I'm aware of that can (somewhat) do what you're looking to achieve.

Just seen this app on Neowin. http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-based-retroui-gets-update-to-retroui-pro
I has a feature that puts a metro app in a window. it's working but it's still really unpolished.
Here is a pic of me playing wordament on the desktop. The app has some rough edges, hopefully it can be improved. The main problems are that it makes Windows really sluggish, and it's really unstable. It doesn't give taskbar items for the metro app and the second the metro app losses focus the window disappears.
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geoken said:
Just seen this app on Neowin. http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-based-retroui-gets-update-to-retroui-pro
I has a feature that puts a metro app in a window. it's working but it's still really unpolished.
Here is a pic of me playing wordament on the desktop. The app has some rough edges, hopefully it can be improved. The main problems are that it makes Windows really sluggish, and it's really unstable. It doesn't give taskbar items for the metro app and the second the metro app losses focus the window disappears.
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Great find!!!!!!!!!! will go back to windows 8 now....first 2 trials lasted 2 hours only, couldn't get over the fact that all those metro apps run full screen, as multitasking was down to 0
Thank you

You also don't have to use Metro at all... the only things I use it for are Mail (crappy, but it works most of the time) and Skype (which is actually fantastic when snapped to one side of the desktop)

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VGA screens of your handheld browsing?

Since my wee JAM is dead (£85 to fix) I'm getting an XDA Exec to replace it - the 640x480 screen with WiFi and 3G appeals to me, since I no longer have a portable PC for my WiFi connection downstairs, and I wanna browse in bed!
Can someone post screens on the actual things browsing? Thanks!
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using terminal services client with VJFullscreenTSC
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Holy... Effing.. Jesus.
Sold.
EDIT: The Windows site is really terrible when it comes to promoting what their SW can do.... those few screens are fantastic...
Do us a favour, could yo also try http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=belfast&spn=0.005190,0.016145&hl=en as well, and what are you using to grab the screens as a matter of interest vijay?
I use Visual Studio 2005, which comes with a program called Remote Zoomin.
If you don't want to install this, use this:
http://www.louterrailloune.com/index_old.php?page=magicss
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Fantastic!
Hey vijay555,
What software is used to generate the "desktop" line screen view, rather than the "today" screen?
Also, what did you use to set VGA (I know of the VGA install available here - which I've tried)
However what did you do to display your dialer pad without the buttons being cropped?
And for anyone else, anyone yet know of a fix that allows us to toggle between VGA and QVGA depending on application?
Regards
Michael
Michael: the top two pictures are from a Universal running the VGA hack here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32217&highlight=
Not that it's important I think, but i'm using VJNina font modfied from from the SPV phone; I've also minimised my scrollbars down.
The second two are using Terminal Services to log onto an XP Media Center PC. I'm using my VJFullscreenTSC app to make it entirely fullscreen:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33759&highlight=
So the "desktop" start bar is coming from XP Media Center, on the PDA
I don't get your question about the Dialer buttons.
If you mean this in VGA:
this is using my VJBigPhone app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33971&highlight=
All are detailed ony my website www.vijay555.com
Another hack I'm working on is to minimise the soft buttons (the blue menu buttons at the bottom) down to a smaller size, relocate the Today tray and ultimately remove the Start Bar:
Work in Progress shots:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34542&highlight=
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PS I don't think there's a dynamic VGA QVGA switcher yet
Vijay, great work by the way...
After much consideration, the only application I want in VGA on my Qtek 9000 is Internet Explorer Mobile. Is there any way to just make that program run in high-resolution? Everything else could be QVGA as far as I'm concerned.
I just don't like the idea of installing a ton of hacks and having to soft-reset between needs.
I swear I am starting to dribble
How about a screen shot of video playing too???
Regards
thank for this help. it is useful for me in my project
childrens book
belfast-biker said:
Since my wee JAM is dead (£85 to fix) I'm getting an XDA Exec to replace it - the 640x480 screen with WiFi and 3G appeals to me, since I no longer have a portable PC for my WiFi connection downstairs, and I wanna browse in bed!
Can someone post screens on the actual things browsing? Thanks!
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Here it´s mine with my beloved Opera
Chhers,

iDEAS for touch style application

Over in the Elf forum we love the htc cube. this is an application that has sides and a face. one side has general apps, one has multimedia apps, and one contacts and phone.
it is very useful but cannot be fully modified.
We all love the cube and want to reconfigure it but cannot quite get it right...transformation issues, and some icons that cannot change, etc.
I wonder if someone could do a similar app that was more configurable? if the animation was too hard what about movement like Tene's Contact Manager or a dissolve transformation ???
Sadly I am no longer a coder but would be happy to donate for such an app...
just thinking out load,
Sam.
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This is a small test of a work-in-progress.:
http://rapidshare.com/files/43755638/FlashBox.zip.html
the "oficial" site is actually a portuguese forum:
http://www.pocketpt.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=16424
i am really contemplating on the same ideas as well.. but having ideas without any knowledge in programming really sucks for me..
i stumbled this very nice transition animation thingies which are said written in dotNET framework 2..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOMrPz56OVo
link to the developer can be found here
the project is made only for smartphones but i think the transitions switches and its idea can be used in a revolutionary PPC launcher of some sort..
i quite don't like having a launcher that eats the whole screen (just like the touchflo cube), hiding the top and bottom bars, giving the user an illusion of having a "new" and "exciting" interface - but then after you select something, you'll be pulled back to the same windows mobile interface..
maybe it's better to just stick to what Windows mobile looks like, but yet, giving it something flashy and worth seeing instead.. just like cool transitions..
maybe the swipe gesture can be used to flip the contents of the screen instead (including the top and bottom bars) rather than rotating a full screen cube.. i think it'll definitely load and feel faster than summoning a full screen application and redrawing the default interface and the launched program afterwards..
just a thought though..
That is pretty cool...hopefully it can be applied to touch screens as well.
Some excellent additional thoughts and ideas. For me a fullscreen app works best as it allows the touch interface to look much better than wm6 and gives me more 'elbow' room when using my fingers to control the application.
The flash solution looks good but I would prefer to minimise memory demands by loading as little additional software as possible.
Mind you I am no longer a coder and if it works and avoids devouring all my memory I will be VERY happy indeed.
All the best,
Sam.
Orb Interface Concept
Hello
I thought of a new interface idea that would be finger friendly and everything. Read about it on my XDA post here:
I think it would be a great interface, but I need some programers to make it happen. Get the word out about this project, and maybe something will happen.
Thanks,
Andrew

Theme has messed up my Touch HD?

So i've had the touch hd for a few months now im starting to venture out into the tricks mods and apps that are available. I installed manilla, Ifonz, and a theme or mod or something for manilla. Found that none of them were for me, so i un-installed them. But now, my little thing at the top right has been resized, and when i go to use touchFLO2d its like, the wrong size and i cannot figure out how to get it to the right size.
See the attatched picture.
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That is was my htc looks like, and the red circle shows the thing that has gone small too.
Also, does anyone think the htc touch works in a complicated way to acheive nothing?. I dont want to compare it to an iphone, but with an iphone, you have your pages of apps n stuff, and you open on?. You close one?. with the HTC you seem to have to go such a long way to acheive the same. and also the htc seems rather slow?
So my questions:
- See the picture and can anyone tell me how to make it fullsize.
- Speed up the HTC, or make it smoother?.
-Install something that (Not immitates iphone), but works, like one, and doesnt just overlay windows mobile 6. Which from what i see is what everything does?.
you cant make the phone better by disguising it as something and pretending it makes it run better?. If anything, its slower as its another app open?. basicly, and app to open apps. Correct me?
Thankyou
~Stephen
So you buy a winmo phone but don't want winmo?
There have been people running Android on their Touch HD so I guess thats what you're looking for but I don't know anything on the subject, I just know it CAN be done.
It works in a overly complicated way?
Hmmmmm.....
Well. Only if you class an operating system as overly complicated.. Its the same as changing your theme in windows. Infact. Its exactly the same. If you want an iphone, and are desperate to have your phone look like an iphone, and think the iphone user interface is all that, then buy an iphone?
This runs windows mobile. It can be Skinned with another UI to make it look and feel different. The same as Windows can be. The same as linux can be. Never used macs so dont know.
Anyway. Can't solve your problem. BUT. Nope. Not overly complicated...
The same UI can be applied to this. All apple is doing is making it so that the UI is all you see. That way it limits what you can do, and makes it so its very uncustomisable.
Honestly, i think the apple iphone is amazing. I get my HTC touch HD delivered tommorow. If i dont like it within the first 6 hours it's goin on ebay and i'm buying an iphone.
Will just have to see what happens though!
Argh, i didnt want this thread to turn out like this. I wasn't comparing the HD to the iphone in that was, and its not the iphone i want. Its the HD, i just wanted to know if anyone thought changing themes and stuff was abit over complicated. Anyway can anybody help me reguarding the resize of touchflo2d?
~Stephen
Go to Settings->Today.
Goto Items Tab. Untick all except Touch Flo 3D. Click OK.
See if it helps.
Some non wvga plugin must be messing around

Android-style Cards (Like on the Palm Pre)

I know everyone doesn't like to copy other operating system with their neat features such as the iphone multi-touch and the icon docks and stuff.
But, i really feel that android can become more successful in multi-tasking but adding what the Palm Pre has which are cards, which are separate windows that encase a certain application, in which you can swipe between each card to run that app, since Android does allow background running apps this can help android users to be more efficient in their multi-tasking and everything else.
Wonder if theres a way android devs can develop code for this to be impliment or does this have to come from the andriod development core to write the files and kernel for this?
any feedback / comments on this is welcome
It would probably be in a form of an application (such as ahome, dxtop, etc), because doing that kind of work to the kernal would be more tedious lol.
P.S. the lakers game made me cry. lol
andonnguyen said:
It would probably be in a form of an application (such as ahome, dxtop, etc), because doing that kind of work to the kernal would be more tedious lol.
P.S. the lakers game made me cry. lol
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lets hope devs can start working on this i would pay money for this app!!
and omg i know :/ failed.
but i like i told everyone else its all about money so they just wanted to extend this series more blah.
If anything, Sweeterhome should be able to implement this.. although i don't think it would run as smooth..
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I know everyone doesn't like to copy other operating system with their neat features such as the iphone multi-touch and the icon docks and stuff.
But, i really feel that android can become more successful in multi-tasking but adding what the Palm Pre has which are cards, which are separate windows that encase a certain application, in which you can swipe between each card to run that app, since Android does allow background running apps this can help android users to be more efficient in their multi-tasking and everything else.
Wonder if theres a way android devs can develop code for this to be impliment or does this have to come from the andriod development core to write the files and kernel for this?
any feedback / comments on this is welcome
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Doesn't holding down the home button basically already do this?
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Doesn't holding down the home button basically already do this?
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Holding the home button just displays the last used apps, regardless of whether or not they are running/open.
anyone else on this?
Of course I'm with you. I think that with Android 2.0 supporting OpenGL ES 2.0, we can see full use of Tegra's 3D UI with its 3D windows showing running applications. Holding down the Home button would take you to this view...
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I have a Facebook group petition to support this new Gphone design:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41818671785&ref=ts

Clock is truly missing (how about this in Chrome?)!

Hi,
I do not know how about you but I am missing simple/constant/bulit in clock in Modern UI mode.
In desktop mode (unless you hide taskbar) clock is always there for you in the right bottom corner...
In Modern UI we can add Clock Tile but it is not the same. As soon as you start an app it is gone .
I know there are many apps (like games) that (as in full screen desktop) will not display and should not display such an information. However apps like Mail, browser, etc. , let say all productivity ones should.
Any chances to get extension (perhaps one of you can write it?? ) that will display clock in Chrome when fired up in Modern UI mode as show on the picture:
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/i30qleogizcebjv/Chrome clock.png
This space in Chrome is not used for anything so it could nice display time What do you think?
I fully agree...!
If you bring up the charms bar the time is displayed
I know - but there is (in most cases) so much unused space on the screen that it should be there all the time.
Space on the tiles themselves could be used better as well
>I know - but there is (in most cases) so much unused space on the screen that it should be there all the time.
It's Metro's design language--having an ascetic interface with as little "chrome" as possible for a clean look. Having an on-screen clock would go against that.
There are a number of issues with Metro--one is the lack of visual hints that impedes discoverability, thereby decreasing user-friendliness. Constant-updating Live Tiles also run counter to the clean UI that ostensibly was for minimizing distractions.
One major complaint with Metro of course is that it's incomplete, and needs to invoke the desktop for many functions. The other biggie is the "business decision" of forcing Metro on users, and not allowing boot-to-desktop.
My personal beef against the Metro design is its use of horizontal scrolling for the main UI elements, notably the Start Screen and many of the Bing apps. Ergonomically, horizontal scroll is less efficient than vertical scroll, especially for text. Secondly, it limits the tablet to landscape mode, which is probably the intent, as all (16:9) Windows tablets work poorly in portrait. Fine for media, poor for readers or web surfing, or any use that involves long text.
Getting back to your point, Metro is as mentioned an incomplete implementation, and hopefully the next rev will expand on its functionality. I don't think a clock on the start screen is in the cards, however.
More intriguing is the possibility of a 3rd-party shell that can replace Metro at some point down the road. Assuming this touch UI thing doesn't flop completely on Win, I think that'll happen.

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