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So guys I was asking myself "is it worth flashing?". Why you ask? Well because if I took a look in the development section and it doesn't look like any of the current roms out are stable and they all seem to have many know issues. So I would like to know what you have flashed and how you like the experience compares to stock rom?
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I have flashed a bunch of roms on this tab. Most of them are stable now. ALL of them running ics are better than the honeycomb touchwiz that comes pre installed. The only caveat I say to you, is that the camera still isn't working on the roms I've been using as my dailies. (Aokp and Nightlies) If that's a deal killer for you, then stay away from the ics builds for now. But I can tell you as someone who has a 2 year + old Droid Incredible running ics AND this tab running ics, I can never go back. Its just THAT good. Especially on this tab where it Truly shows off the big improvements on the OS.
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I'm running a stock mod but the difference is pretty huge. No more constant reboots or hangs. Much faster too. Not using any special kernels either. The ROM I'm using has working GPS and camera. Haven't touched any roms with broken cam/GPS.
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I'm running a stock mod but the difference is pretty huge. No more constant reboots or hangs. Much faster too. Not using any special kernels either. The ROM I'm using has working GPS and camera. Haven't touched any roms with broken cam/GPS.
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Can I ask which ROM you're using? (I thought there wasn't an ICS ROM with working camera...?)
He never said nor implied that he was using an ICS rom...
Ah OK. (Just realised you're right)
I'm using overcome 2.3.1. It's not ics. It's pretty nice. Went from multiple daily reboots to 3 or 4days of uptime. I use it a lot for reading, browsing, netflix, remote mgmt of servers and it holds up well. I bought 3 Samsung docks and have it hooked up to my home theater for music via hdmi, on my nightstand (ditched the tv in the bedroom) and another in my office. I wouldn't have been able to keep it without a rom. Give it a shot. Take your time and read up, it's pretty simple. I'm kinda pissed they made such a great tablet and put such a horrible buggy os on it.
I saw all the comments here suggesting to throw a rom on it to improve performance but I didn't put much stock in it. It's not an exaggeration. You have to ditch the tw launcher too. I'm using Go's tablet edition. I guarantee you will not go back to stock. I chose overcome because it's really stable. No point trying to escape bugs and using a buggy rom.
Getting off my soapbox now. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Yes that was one of my major concerns of ics. I'm running dark sides evolution 2 beta 3 on my sgs2. But when I came here to read about the 10.1 ics versions I was kind of sad. Because like it was said the 10.1 is awesome but cannot be used on stock w/o mods. I really just want to get on a stable release that doesn't have this issue where you could only charge your tab with the wall charger. I need a different kernal.
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I'm using overcome 2.3.1. It's not ics. It's pretty nice. Went from multiple daily reboots to 3 or 4days of uptime. I use it a lot for reading, browsing, netflix, remote mgmt of servers and it holds up well. I bought 3 Samsung docks and have it hooked up to my home theater for music via hdmi, on my nightstand (ditched the tv in the bedroom) and another in my office. I wouldn't have been able to keep it without a rom. Give it a shot. Take your time and read up, it's pretty simple. I'm kinda pissed they made such a great tablet and put such a horrible buggy os on it.
I saw all the comments here suggesting to throw a rom on it to improve performance but I didn't put much stock in it. It's not an exaggeration. You have to ditch the tw launcher too. I'm using Go's tablet edition. I guarantee you will not go back to stock. I chose overcome because it's really stable. No point trying to escape bugs and using a buggy rom.
Getting off my soapbox now. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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It's use go launcher too, but what I'm curious about is what you're using for server management? And app or just the browser? I have both cpanel and directadmin panels on my servers and just been using the browsers.
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With Task v14, I feel that the Galaxy tab is vastly improved from the stock bloatware.
I don't really care about ICS on the Galaxy. Task 14 is so good, I don't see ICS as improving much. I have ICS running on HP Touchpad and Kindle Fire, right now.
it's nice, but IMHO not really worth all of the hype over an optimized GB ROM. YMMV.
Task v 14 is really great, highly recommend it over any ics roms.
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Yes that was one of my major concerns of ics. I'm running dark sides evolution 2 beta 3 on my sgs2. But when I came here to read about the 10.1 ics versions I was kind of sad. Because like it was said the 10.1 is awesome but cannot be used on stock w/o mods. I really just want to get on a stable release that doesn't have this issue where you could only charge your tab with the wall charger. I need a different kernal.
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Yeah I'm not even using any special kernel and have no probs charging.
I'm actually happy with my stock rooted GS2. The only problems I've had are few and far between and solved with a reboot.
I looked at all the major roms on the dev page and Overcome seemed to be the safest stable rom.
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It's use go launcher too, but what I'm curious about is what you're using for server management? And app or just the browser? I have both cpanel and directadmin panels on my servers and just been using the browsers.
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I use pocketcloud and terminal apps to access vnc, rdc and ssh sessions. I'm not using browsers at all except for some app/service config panels that require it and even those I mainly use remotely via vlc or rdc.
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So guys I was asking myself "is it worth flashing?". Why you ask? Well because if I took a look in the development section and it doesn't look like any of the current roms out are stable and they all seem to have many know issues. So I would like to know what you have flashed and how you like the experience compares to stock rom?
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I think your info may be outdated there are a few very and very fast roms out there. I use galaxy task rom and it is very smooth really like night and day over stock.
Perhaps what might come off as unstable are the continuing work by the devs to keep improving the rom
Cm9 is excellent as well despite camera not working
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That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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Yeah I couldn't over the camera and gps problems either. The way some people dismiss them bothers me.
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That's the thing I believe camera is a biggie . So I guess I'll try one at a time see which one sticks .
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To be clear only the ICS rom have the camera issue. The HC roms lile galaxy task dont
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my $.02: My use-case for my tablet is almost entirely at home. I have the Wi-Fi only model, so I don't do a lot of "mobile" stuff with it. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone which I generally carry everywhere.
What I thought: As a techie, I want everything to be fully working just because, and as a result I cannot accept a tablet without a working camera!
Real Life: I use my tablet for IM, web browsing, reading comics, and playing games, generally around the house or while commuting. That's actually it. Number of times I did a video chat on my tablet: 1. Number of times I actually wanted to video chat on my tablet: maybe 2. Because I work with a Galaxy Nexus all the time, having the same OS & ROM on both devices is honestly nicer / easier / more lazy-friendly. Its honestly pretty slick to have Chrome syncing across my computers, my phone, and my tablet.
I recently tried to go back to Honeycomb since I once again thought "gee maybe I should use the camera on my tablet". Honeycomb just feels like ICS with training wheels on it I really don't like it as much. This probably as much a placebo effect as anything. Also, the camera isn't as good as my Galaxy Nexus or my actual camera, and I feel like a douche holding my tablet up to take a picture. Would being able to Skype on my tablet be cool? Yes. Would I use it that often? No.
I'm going back to AOKP damnit. I can deal with a non-working camera for a while.
And GPS??? My device doesn't have mobile data, so it really doesn't matter to me that much, even though I thought it would.
Bottom Line: You can back all your stuff up, and you're not out anything, so why not try it?
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my $.02: My use-case for my tablet is almost entirely at home. I have the Wi-Fi only model, so I don't do a lot of "mobile" stuff with it. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone which I generally carry everywhere.
What I thought: As a techie, I want everything to be fully working just because, and as a result I cannot accept a tablet without a working camera!
Real Life: I use my tablet for IM, web browsing, reading comics, and playing games, generally around the house or while commuting. That's actually it. Number of times I did a video chat on my tablet: 1. Number of times I actually wanted to video chat on my tablet: maybe 2. Because I work with a Galaxy Nexus all the time, having the same OS & ROM on both devices is honestly nicer / easier / more lazy-friendly. Its honestly pretty slick to have Chrome syncing across my computers, my phone, and my tablet.
I recently tried to go back to Honeycomb since I once again thought "gee maybe I should use the camera on my tablet". Honeycomb just feels like ICS with training wheels on it I really don't like it as much. This probably as much a placebo effect as anything. Also, the camera isn't as good as my Galaxy Nexus or my actual camera, and I feel like a douche holding my tablet up to take a picture. Would being able to Skype on my tablet be cool? Yes. Would I use it that often? No.
I'm going back to AOKP damnit. I can deal with a non-working camera for a while.
And GPS??? My device doesn't have mobile data, so it really doesn't matter to me that much, even though I thought it would.
Bottom Line: You can back all your stuff up, and you're not out anything, so why not try it?
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i feel exactly the same, i just migrated to AOKP last night, and so far the benefits of it being a lot "zippier" is good. I do a lot of typing and multitasking viewing pdf and docs etc is a better experience on ICS than HC.....
music? camera? i have my handy SGS for that.......
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What ggps problems? I just got a good fix (8 used) inside! I'd say the gps is working pretty well
Hope this is in the right section...anyways just ordered my Nexus 7 16gb and I'm likely to use this rom I was shocked/confused to realise that this tablet uses a phone style UI. I actually want my tablet to look like a...well...Tablet but i wanted to find out if there are any bugs in said ROM? also, the Tegra app for downloading Tegra games- is that still available after flashing Paranoid Android?
Thank you for your time
EDIT: Should have checked the play store, Tegra zone is available there. Should have checked in the first place :/
Tried almost all the roms available. I always go back to paranoid. It has the features you're looking for. Very stable. Has tablet mode, hybrid mode, phablet mode, etc. Very customizable. Highly recommended. Use with franco's kernel. You will be pleased.
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Tried almost all the roms available. I always go back to paranoid. It has the features you're looking for. Very stable. Has tablet mode, hybrid mode, phablet mode, etc. Very customizable. Highly recommended. Use with franco's kernel. You will be pleased.
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Thanks icytrey, I have used earlier versions of PA when i had my Sensation on the ICS versions, really funky but had MAJOR battery drain then. You've essentially helped me make up my mind by saying after ALL the Roms you've used you go back to PA. It seems that a certain package has arrived in the mail today while I'm at work...WANNA FLASH IT NOW! ha!
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I have a question, I just got m nexus 4 and unlocked the bootloader, rooted and have cwm recovery. I came from a samsung galaxy s2 and ran cm10 on that phone and can understand why to run aosp on a samsung touchwiz based rom, BUT why go cm10 on a stock google rom? Besides adding a reboot menu, what does cm10 add extra? How much stability can it actually add to the phone?? Any input?
Also just wondering if franco kernel will work with stock rom?
I've always been a fan of going straight to CM10 or other custom ROMs with my previous phones to improve performance. With the N4 I feel that the stock performance is more than adequate and worth hanging onto. However, in my case, I really like the quick toggle mod that someone made which allows the quick settings tabs to become quick toggles instead of directing you to the settings menu. For this reason I decided to go with the MoDaCo custom ROM Because it is essentially the stock ROM + advanced power menu + quick toggle mod. It's perfect for me.
This go-around I'm going to give CM10.1 a couple months to turn into a 100% solid/bug free ROM before I consider switching to it. Right now people are reporting random weird issues with it such as invalid timestamps on text messages & issues with Wifi.
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I have a question, I just got m nexus 4 and unlocked the bootloader, rooted and have cwm recovery. I came from a samsung galaxy s2 and ran cm10 on that phone and can understand why to run aosp on a samsung touchwiz based rom, BUT why go cm10 on a stock google rom? Besides adding a reboot menu, what does cm10 add extra? How much stability can it actually add to the phone?? Any input?
Also just wondering if franco kernel will work with stock rom?
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Adds much more than a reboot menu. Many of the CM10 features still haven't been merged yet either.
My main reasons: I prefer the CM toggles to any app substitute, Profiles, Quiet Hours, the notification light implementation, I'm a bit of a Theme Chooser whore.
There are substitutes for all of those things, but I prefer to have it as part of the system.
There are still quite a few things that are missing however, but they're working hard on making them ready for 4.2.1
^^ Quiet hours, good call. I forgot about that. It is a feature I definitely miss but can do without for now.
Well OP, you kinda answered your own question. It's the features of CM that makes people want to use it. It adds more functionality. Like what someone said in the thread, it's still being merged so it's a work in progress.
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Honestly, sometimes I question when the Android team will just start rolling in certain CM features by default.
CyanogenMod has features built in that is not offered on stock. On stock,you would probably have to download several apps just to get the same functionality that CM has.
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^^ Quiet hours, good call. I forgot about that. It is a feature I definitely miss but can do without for now.
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FWIW I haven't had any notable issues on 10.1 with the exception of the back button not exiting the browser a couple of nightlies ago. Has been very stable thus far.
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FWIW I haven't had any notable issues on 10.1 with the exception of the back button not exiting the browser a couple of nightlies ago. Has been very stable thus far.
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Maybe if I get bored over the holidays in the mountains I'll give CM10.1 a go and see how it fares.
The one feature I'm missing is the ability to change brightness by sliding the notification bar from left to right.
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The one feature I'm missing is the ability to change brightness by sliding the notification bar from left to right.
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I miss the custom brightness levels as well, but the N4 screen doesn't seem to be as much of a hog as the GN thankfully.
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I miss the custom brightness levels as well, but the N4 screen doesn't seem to be as much of a hog as the GN thankfully.
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Agreed. Really liking the nexus 4s screen. It's going to take some time getting used to the blacks, the blacks on gn definitely looked better as my beautiful widgets widget looks weird now. But for brighter colors and for viewing videos, the color reproduction for the ips is pretty astonishing.
Hopefully PGM makes it way to N4, that kernel module was so fun to use on my GN.
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Nexus 7 32GB is my first android device. Before I bought it, most people were saying that android is finally smooth, project butter and so on. But that's not the case here. I'm on 4.2.2 stock, have currents sync disabled, my storage is only half full, and my Nexus is starting to get on my nerves.
- screen rotation takes exactly 4 seconds, no exception.
- apps sometimes freeze, forcing me to force close them or even reboot occasionally.
- even some simple games, like Dragonvale, run like stop motion in certain segments.
- when I install ANY app, it seems that android service responsible to put icon on my home screen takes 100% CPU time for 10-15 seconds or so.
- when there are app updates, my nexus is unusable. Takes 10+ seconds for any action.
Say what you want about windows phone, but that thing flies. Am I maybe spoiled by it's buttery smoothness so android by comparison irritates me, or is there really something wrong with my Nexus? I already did hard reset once, early on. It did not help. Should I try again? If so, what backup solution is the easiest?
I know I might be asking a lot and that there are threads about this already, but info is scattered, and there are numerous contradicting opinions and advices. Basically I am just not sure if this is how it's supposed to be, or should I try something.
The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Terepin said:
The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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How do I detect a rouge app? Task manager? Can you recommend one?
It was slow to start with. Disabling currents sync did not help. And I did do reset in the first few days. Did not help.
Now, it's just even more slower. Perhaps by as much as 50% in some actions, if I can put a number on a subjective impression.
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Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?
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Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?
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Well if you want better performance... ROMs and kernels are the things to mess with.
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You should probably flash a ROM/kernel for best performance. But if you still don't want to mess with ROMs, reflash the stock rom and reroot it. That's what helped me.
I've had some issues with my phone lagging during/after app update, and i've only recently nailed down the culprit. Turns out it was the Root Uninstaller app that was making backups of older versions of the apps during the update, it ceased after i turned off the option in it's settings (or just uninstall). My guesstimate would be that you have some app that is doing just that. Because my own n7 doesn't noticeably lag even if i try to update many (as much as 10) apps at the same, which usually kills my single-core SGSL into a reboot shortly after trying this.
I think 4.2 is just buggy. It flies for me sometimes and on some devices, and sometimes it crawls horribly. Maybe the next android version will fix this, maybe not
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This helped me a little (If you don't use Currents then this could help)
1. Go to Settings > Apps > All (swipe right 2 times) > Currents
2. Click "Force Stop"
3. Click "Disable"
It should be now fixed for some of it. Like the earlier posts suggest, maybe reflashing stock ROM or installing a kernel (once you're comfortable) will help for sure.
It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.
AW: [Q] Is Nexus 7 supposed to be this way? (laggy)
If you're having a lot of apps installed you can get ram problems. Some apps are running in the background even if they don't need to. If you wanna know which apps those are simply go to apps and swipe to the second panel. There you can see which asps are running in the background .You should delete them. If you don't want to do that simply download the app Greenify
(You should have more than 200mb free)
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Entropy generator, I just use pimp my ROM, even on stock rooted.
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I'm on paranoid 2.54 which is 4.1 and it feels faster than cm10.1 I miss 4.2.2 fonts but I'll see If I get it.
BR.
d.a.v.o.r said:
It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.
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Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.
Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
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Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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It honestly shouldn't lag like that. Even bone stock.
One thing you can do right away is go into developer settings (click 7 times on Build Number in About Tablet to enable) and change all animation settings to.5 or to none.
DL Root Checker, or just try to use any root app to see if you actually do have root. Even with the wonderful toolkits (which will also save your bacon if you get into a bootloop) getting root to stick can be tricky...you may have to run it a couple of times.
But the best results will come if you flash a custom rom and kernel. if you like a tweaked stock experience, try CleanRom Inheritance. It uses the Aroma installer, so it's very easy and customizable. It can be found under Android Development.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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You can use titanium backup. It there others like carbon. But titanium has been around the longest and it's my preferred way. Requires root, and it should warn you at start up if you aren't rooted correctly.
I would do as others suggested and just restore basic apps after factory reboot and re root. Then slowly restore others to see if you notice other problems along the way.
Also, if you didn't know. You can install kernels without wiping tablet and changing the whole Rom. I would definitely try that eventually too.
One more thing to note. Don't judge android on chrome (not that you mentioned it, but I know a lot of newbies have). It's one of the slowest browsers. It has tons of great features which I love, but do slow compared to most others. I wish I wasn't so addicted to its syncing.
Thanks to everyone on advices.
1) root checker says I do not have proper root. Now that I think about it, I did update my Nexus 7 from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2. I guess that also removed root.
2) I will reset. I don't really have any messages or photos or app data that is not already in the cloud that I need to backup.
3) I'll try to gradually install everything app by app to see if it's a rouge app.
4) I'll than revive this thread with my results. Though I doubt I'll get to doing all that in the next few days.
Again, thanks everyone!
I really don't want to come across as if I don't appreciate the work that is going into the CM11 / KitKat builds for the Nook HD because I do and continually look forward to flashing the latest nightlies etc.
But does it seem as if each version from either variant available are less and less stable? initial releases seemed fine while each new version has more and more issues that seem to pop up. I just flashed the latest from the General forum here and lost Play store, once I reflashed my GAPPS and got it back I got odd green screen flashing and terrible performance requiring a reboot which black screened. I had to do a soft reset by holding the power button.
I don't know. Again, appreciate the work, saddened by the current crop, I guess.
And here I am wondering why I don't have any issues at all. Not one single reboot, no loss of functionality, nothing. I am running the latest nightly.
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asawi said:
And here I am wondering why I don't have any issues at all. Not one single reboot, no loss of functionality, nothing. I am running the latest nightly.
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02-03?
Did you swap kernels? Dirty flash? Etc.
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Did you try factory restore after your google app install?
If not i try doing the restore in settings and see if it resolves the problems. Seems like it usually works for me.
If you notice the launcher is now trebuchet. They just started replacing launcher 3 with theirs. So things will be broken or missing. Same with others areas.
I always have a very recent backup and so it doesn't matter. 10.2 went though pains too and so on so forth.
If you want more stable 10.2 is right there. Backup cm11 in recovery and restore it later on when its more mature.
So...am I the only one who....
Doesn't use Google anymore? Look, I mean I know the paid Koogle-aid dispensers will dog pile on me as a heretic, but CM on my nook is working great for me and in concert with other play stores all is well. I just don't see the need to put anymore money or information in Big GData's pocket.
Just one guys opinion, flame away
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Doesn't use Google anymore? Look, I mean I know the paid Koogle-aid dispensers will dog pile on me as a heretic, but CM on my nook is working great for me and in concert with other play stores all is well. I just don't see the need to put anymore money or information in Big GData's pocket.
Just one guys opinion, flame away
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This is rich. It used to be big M$ that folks dumped on, now Google?
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Rich?
I respectfully disagree. LL you of all people know of the massive holes and security flaws that gapps add to what is mostly a great open source system. I think if people really were to examine just what adding gapps does to your phone as far as adding in avenues for exploitation they wouldn't use it.
Have I said something technically incorrect?
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I respectfully disagree. LL you of all people know of the massive holes and security flaws that gapps add to what is mostly a great open source system. I think if people really were to examine just what adding gapps does to your phone as far as adding in avenues for exploitation they wouldn't use it.
Have I said something technically incorrect?
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I'm not disagreeing with your point, I just think it is interesting that folks tend to see big companies as evil and jump on them.
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All running smooth as a babys bottom
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02-03?
Did you swap kernels? Dirty flash? Etc.
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Yes, 02-03. I don't swap any kernels. Clean initial install and then updated from settings menu. And as I said, no issues whatsoever! Working woonderfully, no reboots, no lag, nothing! Just working beautifully!
The only issues I've had with CM11 was in the initial unofficial release there was a screen flicker now and then. That dispappeard a coulpe of releases in. And then last week (?) there was an issue with the screen rotating when putting the device to sleep. That did't have any effect on the device while running, but either way it's fixed now.
And as I said, not one single unwanted reboot! Ever! I have a 16GB HD+ and a 16GB HD running unmodified nightlies. Both of then problem free! I'm (of course) not complaining, just wondering how come some have lots of problems and others don't. Hardware related? Dirty installs? Messed around with stuff best left alone?
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Hardware related?
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That's been my theory since I got my first Android device. More specifically, hardware revisions.
I have done it in the past just to see if android would still be useable if Google stopped supporting it. It is but it is easier with them. More security would be nice.
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felacio said:
I really don't want to come across as if I don't appreciate the work that is going into the CM11 / KitKat builds for the Nook HD because I do and continually look forward to flashing the latest nightlies etc.
But does it seem as if each version from either variant available are less and less stable? initial releases seemed fine while each new version has more and more issues that seem to pop up. I just flashed the latest from the General forum here and lost Play store, once I reflashed my GAPPS and got it back I got odd green screen flashing and terrible performance requiring a reboot which black screened. I had to do a soft reset by holding the power button.
I don't know. Again, appreciate the work, saddened by the current crop, I guess.
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I understand what you mean. Seriously if I knew enough about caf and kernels, etc. I would find a way to build some form of 4.4.2 pure AOSP. Stock just seems so much better with my N5 and I would love to see it in action on my Nook HD+. But I don't know that much and am too busy to start learning complicated things like that (I own a business and root&mod as a limited hobby). I'm just grateful to @verygreen & helpful folks like @leapinlar to have some kind of 4.4 emmc on this mostly abandoned (by B&N) device. I think that CM in general has gone downhill from a stability perspective since CM10 (basing that on a few devices that got 'official' cm).
Well, did a full wipe and flashed the latest 02-04 build. So far so good. No horrible performance after an hour requiring a reset and it hasn't gone black on me, but that usually takes a couple days. I should have learned long ago to just do a full wipe and flash when things aren't going right.
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Well, did a full wipe and flashed the latest 02-04 build. So far so good. No horrible performance after an hour requiring a reset and it hasn't gone black on me, but that usually takes a couple days. I should have learned long ago to just do a full wipe and flash when things aren't going right.
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Just for my future reference , what is meant by full wipe? I did a wipe data and factory reset before and went through the setup screens again but there was clearly still some stuff left, like data folders from apps previously installed.
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barth2 said:
Just for my future reference , what is meant by full wipe? I did a wipe data and factory reset before and went through the setup screens again but there was clearly still some stuff left, like data folders from apps previously installed.
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To get rid of personal data you have to format data under mounts. Word of warning anything not backed up will be gone.
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barth2 said:
Just for my future reference , what is meant by full wipe? I did a wipe data and factory reset before and went through the setup screens again but there was clearly still some stuff left, like data folders from apps previously installed.
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A wipe data /factory reset with CWM is not really a full wipe. It leaves your media files intact. Even a format of /data in 'mounts and storage' leaves the media files. To do a full wipe you need to format 'data and datamedia'. That truly wipes all data, including media files.
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A wipe data /factory reset with CWM is not really a full wipe. It leaves your media files intact. Even a format of /data in 'mounts and storage' leaves the media files. To do a full wipe you need to format 'data and datamedia'. That truly wipes all data, including media files.
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While we're at it, what's a dirty flash / re flash, and how does one change kernels in a nook device? I thought kernels were always included in a rom zip as boot.img files and you could not flash a different one
Nolfer said:
While we're at it, what's a dirty flash / re flash, and how does one change kernels in a nook device? I thought kernels were always included in a rom zip as boot.img files and you could not flash a different one
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A dirty flash is just installing a new Rom without wiping anything first. Depends on what you are flashing whether a dirty flash is OK. Usually if you are going from one CM nightly to another say CM 10.2 from yesterday to CM 10.2 from today you can get away without wiping caches. If on the other hand you want to go from CM 10.2 to Cm 11 you really should wipe caches first, same going from say CM to Carbon it is recommended to wipe first.
There are a few kernels out there but they are specific to certain Roms. There were some touch kernels for CM 10.2 but they only work on early releases not the stable. Unless you have a specific need I would't worry about flashing a new kernel.