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[Q] What will happen when android is 100% functional with htc hd2 ??

will a custom ROM have android instead of WM6.5 ?? i mean it will direct boot to android or we still have to open android from WM6.5 ??

at the moment you run android as an application in windows mobile.
other way is to flash andoid to nand like we now flash our windows mobile roms.
as far as i know there is not enough room to flash both OSes to nand. <- pls correct me if im wrong

oh ok when it will be 100% functional with everything working it could be flashed to nand without the WM ?

why did u buy a winmo phone when u want android?

...the world as we know it...will come to an end... lol well what's most likely to happen is people wanting to get windows phone 7 on the phone.
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PhoneConnect247 said:
...the world as we know it...will come to an end... lol well what's most likely to happen is people wanting to get windows phone 7 on the phone.
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loooooool i saw the title and was about to write the exact same thing ...
what would happen ..... it will run 100% no more no less , alltho i doubt that will ever happen cuz it occasionally has bad days on nexus too , like all the OS-es

bbezja1 said:
at the moment you run android as an application in windows mobile.
other way is to flash andoid to nand like we now flash our windows mobile roms.
as far as i know there is not enough room to flash both OSes to nand. <- pls correct me if im wrong
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i think thats wrong. android is NOT an app running in windows mobile. this would mean android is runnning as some kind of emulation. as far as i know, winmo is still needed in order to initialize the hardware. by starting haret.exe, the wince-kernel is shut down and a linux bootloader is started.

hopefully we'll be able to flash an android rom to nand and have a device which can hold either OS equally. I personally like the fact that the HD2 can become versatile. I agree - that if someone wants to run android only, he should buy an Android device. I wanted to have a taste of android with the ability to run WM as i have for the past 4 years.

nir36 said:
I agree - that if someone wants to run android only, he should buy an Android device.
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but if someone wants to run android on such a beautiful piece of hardware like our hd2? have you ever seen a good looking android device (i mean the physical device itself, not the ui)?

hebbe said:
but if someone wants to run android on such a beautiful piece of hardware like our hd2? have you ever seen a good looking android device (i mean the physical device itself, not the ui)?
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I bought the device with the intent on running android. I am not help bent on completely removing it
There hasnt been a device until the evo 4g that had the same screen size. And since i dont hop carriers I cant use the evo.
The my touch 3g slide screen is too small
The my touch screen is too small
The samsung galaxy screen is too small
The g1 screen is too small.
The samsung behold 2 sucked !
THe cliq sucked
The nexus 1 screen is too small
So people do have reasons to have the hd2.
Plus a lot of people I have met with the hd2 didnt realize what they were buying. Most people hate the phone. They then see mine with android and fall in love.

hazard99 said:
I bought the device with the intent on running android. I am not help bent on completely removing it
There hasnt been a device until the evo 4g that had the same screen size. And since i dont hop carriers I cant use the evo.
The my touch 3g slide screen is too small
The my touch screen is too small
The samsung galaxy screen is too small
The g1 screen is too small.
The samsung behold 2 sucked !
THe cliq sucked
The nexus 1 screen is too small
So people do have reasons to have the hd2.
Plus a lot of people I have met with the hd2 didnt realize what they were buying. Most people hate the phone. They then see mine with android and fall in love.
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screen problem will get fix'd with the desire hd ^.^
but running android on the hd2 like it is native would be just awsome.. thats true for sure )

D4rkSoRRoW said:
screen problem will get fix'd with the desire hd ^.^
but running android on the hd2 like it is native would be just awsome.. thats true for sure )
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+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
Can't wait
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Can some one answer this question. What windows mobile 6.5 do, that android can't do? This is my first WM phone and I tho it was alright. I would of got the Evo but I can't switch carriers until the end of the year. Since now we got android, I'm staying with t-mo. I pay full price for this phone ($560.00 in NYC) I first regretted and since android I don't. Anyways I found that android do much more for me than WM. So if I'm wrong please some one tell me. Ps: excuse my english.
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For me, I would consider the NAND flash for Android ROM the 100% fully functional since that is of primary importance to me here.

I bought my HD2 even though I knew it had WM. And at the time I didn't want Android at all, just my WM, but with some configurations & such.
But now that I have Android running on it instead, I never want to go back.
And just like someone else said, there ain't an Android phone around that have the same hardware specs as the HD2. Except the EVO, but I've had my phone a long time before they released the EVO. And from what I know it's only available in the US. Maybe I could import one and configure it to run on Swedish networks, but wth..

The wife and I got this phone and she didn't realize it was Windows Mobile. This was my first experience with Sense UI and thought it was awesome.
I loved the phone for what it could do and actually "Used" it to it's potential. She "HATES" it. Then again, I don't blame her. Sense fails hard when it comes to texting and load lag
She can't wait till I can flash Android to her phone. Me, i'll stick with my options.

D4rkSoRRoW said:
why did u buy a winmo phone when u want android?
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I don't think people who HATE WinMo buy this phone with the sole intent of putting another OS on it. I think most people bought it for the screen & the media capabilities. For me, I saw a lot of potential in the hardware specs and bought mine cause it's the last real WM phone(I'm sappy like that) and because it's a GSM phone that I can unlock & use for years to come. It was like buying a barebones PC that I could run whatever I want on & have multi-boot systems.
I decided to run Android on it initially out of sheer curiosity, and so I can learn the next OS I'm gonna be using. When WM dies out(it's GOING to happen, so we may as well face it), Android will be what I will move on to partly because its Linux & open source, and partly because there's no way in pus-spewing, blood-gutted hell that I would ever use an iPhone or Blackberry(WP7 has NEVER been an option). I must say, Android runs VERY well on this phone even in its current stage of development, I can't wait to see how awesome it'll be as a fully flashable rom. I'm already almost to the point of not even missing WM anymore. I've been running it for a week now & I'm getting to know how everything works & I love it. Very versatile & powerful, and quite stable. I don't think I quite realized just how many lockups and crashes I was really having with WM until I started using Android as my main OS. The first time I used Android I HATED it because I had a bad build & an underpowered phone(One of the first leaked Froyo builds on a Sprint Hero) and it ran like crap. But with the combo I've got now, it's simply awesome. Everything is so integrated & all the programs mesh together so beautifully. It really does 'just work', and it's hackable & customizable at the same time. Best of both worlds. If & when a NAND version of Android for the HD2 comes out, you can count me in.
Don't get me wrong, I will ALWAYS love WinMo. I think it's the best mobile OS there ever was, and it's incredibly sad that it's dying. It would still be going strong if Microsoft had just marketed it better & hadn't copped out with WP7. But I'm not gonna stay with a stagnant platform that nobody develops for anymore(I'd have stayed with Palm OS otherwise), and I was honestly starting to get bored with it. I had pushed WM to it's limits & did everything I could possibly do with it, and it's just time to move on. I believe Android is the wave of the future, and will eventually overtake the iPhone in popularity.
Plus I love robots, so anything named 'Android' is automatically cool in my book

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Friendly robots are a plus in my book.
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Once android 2.2 is fully working, android gingerbread will be released and people can start working on that. Windows phone 7 is also a possibility. Ubuntu is still under development as well. The possibilities are endless.

Why windows mobile 7 when android so much better?
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[Q] wm7 on x10??

Hi Guys
i have a question it is possiple to port wm7 to x10?
or givs there any roms??
PS: sorry for my bad english =(

We can't either upgrade android version (maybe we can but not in 'full mode') and web should be able to port Wm7 (that couldn't either be ported yet to HD2) to our X10's?
Obviously no, we cant, and moreover, i think we will never can

x10i is a bad phone

Do you think so? ok your opinion. Im proud as a hell of my x10.
Regarding the question:
Maybe one day it might be possible, but i wouldnt be sure. eg. iphone is in progress of transcription to android, so maybe android will be transcripted to wm7, why not?

Kondzioz said:
Do you think so? ok your opinion. Im proud as a hell of my x10.
Regarding the question:
Maybe one day it might be possible, but i wouldnt be sure. eg. iphone is in progress of transcription to android, so maybe android will be transcripted to wm7, why not?
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I trink olso the x10 is an amazing phone
and Android 2.1 olso amazing but i think wm7 is from the designe better
and i would buy no wm7 Mobile because they look all agly
I hob that there were any devoper That make that possiple

The only thing tempting with wp7 for me is the xbox integration, would love to have that!
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prolly the closest your gonna get
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781455

i would think we might have a chance at porting wm7 to x10 when x7 is released and we have the rom for the x7... that would be ur best bet...

that'd be great but wonder if its possible

Until the bootloader is cracked (allowing us to install whatever ROMs we wish), it's pretty-much impossible we'd ever see any way of installing an alternate OS. Once the bootloader is cracked, if someone were to put forth the effort to port the OS and get things working, technically it should be possible.
My question though is: why?
I'm personally not convinced WP7 is worth anyone's time, especially since it's as closed as iOS. Mind as well get an iPhone.

Wp7 has minimum specs that x10 does not meet. It requires 512 MB ram
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i will never ever back to windows even if i had a chance to.
i used almost all of windows versions and they all sucks and lags alot and have many bugs ... unlike android.
that my opinuin

Optimus7 vs Android

It's possible onto this apparatus android to make an operating system?

You want to load up Android on a WP7 device...and ruin it? Why? Do not be so cruel...

if you want Android, then just buy a Android phone and get annoyed with apps that litterly eat your battery and fragmentation .please Leave wp7 alone

gamemanx said:
if you want Android, then just buy a Android phone and get annoyed with apps that litterly eat your battery and fragmentation .please Leave wp7 alone
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This was a reasonable remark, please neglect the one like this!

Please don't compare those two diferent worlds WM is from Wenus and Android is from Mars. I think so that you know what I mean

And WP7 is from ... Mercury...

So tell me from is a Symbian maybe Halley's comet

kapanak said:
You want to load up Android on a WP7 device...and ruin it? Why? Do not be so cruel...
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AHHHHHHHHhhhhhhh ahahahah ahahah ah aha ha ah in other words, lol!!!!!
Have you tried android device?
I have an lg optimus 7 and a Samsung galaxy s... OMG.
One of this is a real device with a real OS. which one?
it's not the optimus
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Android>ios>webos>bada>bbOS>wp7>symbian
This is the fact.
And
Wp7=feature phone
Android=true smartphone.

I was missing the trolls here. Good to see you guys.

LOL why u haven´t buyed a hd2
where u have WP7, Android, Windows mobile, ubuntu, Meego, ... donno what the future brings...
BTW: i buyed this phone only for testing and development.

EagleEye2004 said:
LOL why u haven´t buyed a hd2
where u have WP7, Android, Windows mobile, ubuntu, Meego, ... donno what the future brings...
BTW: i buyed this phone only for testing and development.
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So do I. I think a wp7 gui i very comfortible and useful. Imho the future belongs to wp7 phones.

I was here for a simple wi-fi ad hoc connection and to know if is possible wi fi sharing (now I know that it's so difficult but not impossible) for my lg optimus 7.
Sorry guys, not for offende noone but it's true that wp7 is easy but smartphone IMHO are mini pc and for me they must be able to navigate (if free it's better), have native multitasking, have flash for a best browsing experience, a little bit of game, just for fun or as timekiller, and some tool for syncronize calendar and mail for business. I'm an ex wm 6.1 lover with htc diamond and others, an apple's hater for restricted policy and wp7 is going in this direction. So for me, and I'm so sorry for this, wp7 have all the defects of osx Without the benifits of apple store. The only benifits over apple is that I can choose an economic device or high end device, but there's no compare with Android. Please, try a Samsung Galaxy S or Desire HD with a cooked rom and with lagfix actived. Now my lg optimus 7 is a paperweight.....
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EagleEye2004 said:
LOL why u haven´t buyed a hd2
where u have WP7, Android, Windows mobile, ubuntu, Meego, ... donno what the future brings...
BTW: i buyed this phone only for testing and development.
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Yes, I think that hd2 it's the most beautiful window's device, better than osx and wp7, very close to Android, the only problem the lag after long use...
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Maybe this Android freedom is interesting for who is discovering this kind of thing now, but as a former user of Symbian and WinMo for the last 5 years, this "freedom" isn't interesting for me anymore.
I don't need a "mini PC" in my pocket, I just want to do what I need to do quickly, and for that, WP7 is the best for me.
I don't know for you guys, but I get sick of all those menus and sub-menus to access everything I need on Symbian/WinMo/Android.
I would like to get a little bit more freedom on WP7, but I still can do all I need to do, so it's ok.

Don't you trolls have a cave gathering somewhere? I could swear it was the troll mating season.
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will the future bring windows phone 7 to the desire hd?

hello guys
i just wanted to know if it will be possible to put windows phone7 as a second system on the dhd...i know i know windows phone 7 isnt a free sourcecode..but some people get it right on the hd 2..
so i was wondering if it wouldnt work for the dhd too?

at first: YES. it is possible.
BUT: it's a LOT of effort to port WP7 to the DHD and probably no one would do it.
so there would probably never be a working WP7 version on the DHD unless you get a really good DEV to work on this

I think there is a launcher called Windows phone 7. It looks exactly the same!
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imo Windows 7 is not necessary on DHD.
Gingerbread is great.

im pretty sure WP7 wont come to the DHD as we first of all need the source code - which we most likely wont get.
+ imo the reason why we have working wp7 builds for the HD2 is, because it already has windows framework on it, which makes it way easier to port a newer version on it.

My question would be, will windows fans ever work out how to use search on XDA?, please this question has been asked time and time again.

Sry for the question bro actually im using revolution hd 5.11 and the windows phone 7 launcher the combination of windowd design and android software is great

I doubt it will. Even though WP 7 can be ported, almost all services in WP 7 will unuseable. The one that Im waiting is Meego or Ubuntu fully ported to DHD.

When I visit a big online store (which begins with an a ;P ) at this time all wp7 devices are really cheap xD. when you want wp7 I would recommend you to buy a htc hd7 for example. At the moment you will miss something like WOW effect of something new . Tested wp7 a while on my old hd2...there are many things missing (in OS itsself) and the hype came down after a short time after release of dft.

It would be good if can make it dual boot...

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I doubt it will. Even though WP 7 can be ported, almost all services in WP 7 will unuseable. The one that Im waiting is Meego or Ubuntu fully ported to DHD.
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I fully quote your post.
I hope ubuntu will be ported on DHD.

Can we have symbian on the DHD?
Just kidding lol!

sgroimax said:
I fully quote your post.
I hope ubuntu will be ported on DHD.
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I think there is ported ubuntu... Look in development section (i'm new don't believe me 100% :$)
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I just installed launcher 7 from market , I tested out the free one for an hour or so and was so happy I brought the donate version, its ad free with some extra options, now I have custom multi colour wp7 tiles on my homescreen, its great, I highly recommend it ;-)
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Can I Run iPhone Apps on HD2?

is it possible to run iphone apps on the hd2? if so, then how?

not possible

Richy99 said:
not possible
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wow! you know whats crazy? the huge amount of development and hacking on phones. theres this huge push in that direction. but considering this huge amount of developement, theres no effort in developing apps or ios for the hd2 or other phones. i really dont nunderstand that. its the biggest mystery and biggest hypocricy if you ask me.

koolxx said:
wow! you know whats crazy? the huge amount of development and hacking on phones. theres this huge push in that direction. but considering this huge amount of developement, theres no effort in developing apps or ios for the hd2 or other phones. i really dont nunderstand that. its the biggest mystery and biggest hypocricy if you ask me.
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how is it? ios is a totally closed system and uses differnet hardware, the only reason the hd2 was hackable for the openbootloader of windows mobile an the fact it was the first device of its kind and then other devices to very simliar spec became available and were ported across
why is it a hypocrisy? please explain this one to me

koolxx said:
wow! you know whats crazy? the huge amount of development and hacking on phones. theres this huge push in that direction. but considering this huge amount of developement, theres no effort in developing apps or ios for the hd2 or other phones. i really dont nunderstand that. its the biggest mystery and biggest hypocricy if you ask me.
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It isnt possible due to it being a completely different os, and as for developing ios for the hd2 or any other phone isnt possible because the drivers and ios is closed source so itll never happen.

Richy99 said:
how is it? ios is a totally closed system and uses differnet hardware, the only reason the hd2 was hackable for the openbootloader of windows mobile an the fact it was the first device of its kind and then other devices to very simliar spec became available and were ported across
why is it a hypocrisy? please explain this one to me
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i already exlpaine why its hypocricy. becuz of the huge development concentrated in hacking and modifying software that it should dawn on the developers and hackers that ios, the most used mobile platform in the world, should be a target.

There isn't a drive to develop an ios port because its nit possible
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M..N said:
It isnt possible due to it being a completely different os, and as for developing ios for the hd2 or any other phone isnt possible because the drivers and ios is closed source so itll never happen.
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yeah that makes more sense. its just that iois is such a smoother and fast platform that it wuold be a blessing seeing it on the hd2 and other phones.

Not really android is as smooth and fast or even better then ios. IOS may have more apps and better apps as it is more mature, however many apps that ios has are on android now
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koolxx said:
i already exlpaine why its hypocricy. becuz of the huge development concentrated in hacking and modifying software that it should dawn on the developers and hackers that ios, the most used mobile platform in the world, should be a target.
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no you didnt explain at all, you seem to be moaning that ios isnt available on other devices, people hack the ios, its called jailbreaking but thats different to actually having the ability to port the code to another device ala anfroid, whcih is open source so the code is freely available for developers
ios will never be available on any device other than an apple, if you think this is hypocrisy then speak to apple about it and lobby that they open up their source code

M..N said:
Not really android is as smooth and fast or even better then ios. IOS may have more apps and better apps as it is more mature, however many apps that ios has are on android now
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thats not true.. the scrolling is much faster than on non-ios. but in other aspects of speed, i really cant say. but everything is so much smoother and intuitive on the iphone than on non- ios phones. this is a fact

Not really phones like the sgs,sgs2 have extremely smooth scrolling same with wp7 devices
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Richy99 said:
no you didnt explain at all, you seem to be moaning that ios isnt available on other devices, people hack the ios, its called jailbreaking but thats different to actually having the ability to port the code to another device ala anfroid, whcih is open source so the code is freely available for developers
ios will never be available on any device other than an apple, if you think this is hypocrisy then speak to apple about it and lobby that they open up their source code
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yes i did. you seem to be jealous that ios is a better ios than other devices. but its a shame that ios isnt ported to other devcies. it'd make many such phones really cool, like the hd2.
its sad that ios wont ever be ported to other devices. and if deveolpers had the power to mod ios for other phones, and if they didnt, theyd be hypocrites. if you dont think this isnt hypocricy convince them about it and challenge it if apple opens their source code one day.

M..N said:
Not really phones like the sgs,sgs2 have extremely smooth scrolling same with wp7 devices
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you could be right about wm7

"Smooth" is really a matter of perception. I have an iPod Touch 4G and I use various Android builds on the HD2. I prefer Android to iOS because I can use it just the way I like it; my homescreen, my widgets, my rules. iOS looks spectacular and apps look great on it, but I don't see how it is in any way superior to dual core droids like the HTC Sensation and SGS2. The same, of course, applies to the apps.

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"Smooth" is really a matter of perception. I have an iPod Touch 4G and I use various Android builds on the HD2. I prefer Android to iOS because I can use it just the way I like it; my homescreen, my widgets, my rules. iOS looks spectacular and apps look great on it, but I don't see how it is in any way superior to dual core droids like the HTC Sensation and SGS2. The same, of course, applies to the apps.
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i installed 2 droid builds on my hd2. they both failed to live up. the cal;l quality was very bad and cam was not as sharp on the stock rom. but i wish there were a way to run droid and apple apps on the hd2... if that ever happens i'll be in heaven.

Are there certain apps you want to run? There would most likelyy be alternatives
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M..N said:
Are there certain apps you want to run? There would most likelyy be alternatives
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I think he's referring more to the iOS experience in general rather than specific functional deficiencies - I don't think that will ever be accomplished, unless Apple suddenly wakes up to the realisation that open source is the way to go. Fat chance.

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Are there certain apps you want to run? There would most likelyy be alternatives
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hi, mn.. thanks for replying. i want a nyc subway map, a bible app, an app to keep all my password, and other apps.
i was thiking about installing WM7 on my hd2... i read that there are more WM7 apps than for apps for hd2.

koolxx said:
hi, mn.. thanks for replying. i want a nyc subway map, a bible app, an app to keep all my password, and other apps.
i was thiking about installing WM7 on my hd2... i read that there are more WM7 apps than for apps for hd2.
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Dude, are you using Android or WinMo? Because you can get those apps for Android. And WP7 does NOT have more apps than any platform at the moment.