Database Users

***For those who are experiencing freeze ups***

Hello people, I thought I would inform you all of a much better and effective method to deal with your phone freezing. Many of us are using custom kernels such as nemesis2all's OTB or imnuts peanut butter jelly time in which have a tendency to freeze our phones due to the overclocking/undervolting. Or, we are on JT's new CM7 mtd or Andmer's GB MIUI and our screens will turn off and nothing that we do will turn them back on. The natural reaction to this occurrence is to take the back off the phone and pull the battery out. But, this is not good for it to be abruptly pulled in the midst of supplying power to your phone. Not to mention the severe battery drain that comes along with doing this, as I'm sure many of you have already noticed to be the case. No matter what rom/kernel you are on and no matter how frozen your phone is, if you simply hold both the volume up and volume down buttons and the power button at the same time for about 10 seconds, your phone will do a hard reboot. Problem solved without doing harm or damage to your phone and without excessive battery drain. This method even works for CM7 MTD/GB MIUI MTD. This is not the same thing as the three finger method that you are warned not to do with these roms. This method will lead to overall better battery life and phone life. Not to mention, a lot less frustration.

I think just vol UP + power works, but either way.. it's a useful trick to know!

And especially helpful if you have a case on
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Good to know. I broke my case by taking it off and on so many times. It's still useable but this will prevent further damage, and save me some time.
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elarson006 said:
I think just vol UP + power works, but either way.. it's a useful trick to know!
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+1. This is what I use. Just had to do it this morning as a matter of fact.

elarson006 said:
I think just vol UP + power works, but either way.. it's a useful trick to know!
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Indeed. I never do battery pulls personally.

verizon techs have had me do battery pulls a couple different times lol.

droidstyle said:
verizon techs have had me do battery pulls a couple different times lol.
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Yea, but not while the phone is on and in a frozen state with a steady stream of battery power being supplied to it, I assume. That is very different.
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kidserious said:
Yea, but not while the phone is on and in a frozen state with a steady stream of battery power being supplied to it, I assume. That is very different.
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Power on but not frozen... but I agree its not good to pull battery in frozen state... volume up and power button is what I do in that situation. My SF has only froze two times and that was from overclocking... not very stable over 1200 on the stock rom. Srry hope my last post did not offend, I meant as verizon was dumb for having me pull the battery with power on!

droidstyle said:
Power on but not frozen... but I agree its not good to pull battery in frozen state... volume up and power button is what I do in that situation. My SF has only froze two times and that was from overclocking... not very stable over 1200 on the stock rom. Srry hope my last post did not offend, I meant as verizon was dumb for having me pull the battery with power on!
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No, post was not offensive nor was it was taken that way. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression.

landshark68 said:
+1. This is what I use. Just had to do it this morning as a matter of fact.
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It's what I use as well, power+both volume buttons does nothing for me, I think technically power+volume up is a soft reboot, but, it works.

I will use this next time... My phone froze up this morning. I thought I was going to have to pull the battery and just as I was tapping the battery out of the phone I saw the bootlogo. When I put the battery back in my /data was gone. Phone would boot, but there was no data partition. It was toast.
Had to Odin back to stock and start all over. My last Titanium Backup is from more than a month ago. I have a Super Manager backup from ~ a week ago. Will give it a shot.

[Q] Non removable battery, how to shut down the phone during bootloop i.e.?

This is NOT a Whine thread, I simply have a question.
Since I own the Nexus S and I'm willing to spend 300 Euro on the new Nexus 4, I have a question about modding.
When there was a hickup with cyanogenmod on the Nexus S, the phone was in a bootloop or something else,
I could always remove the battery to restart the phone and get into the bootloader, in my case CWM.
Now since you can't remove the battery, how do I "shut down" the phone without being able to remove the battery?
I'm no Professional in this field like some of you guys, so sorry for the silly? question
Thx in advance

Hold down the power button for a while to force shut down. Try it on your Nexus S.

been holding it down for a minute on homescreen, nothing happening :-/

Vertron said:
Hold down the power button for a while to force shut down. Try it on your Nexus S.
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I think that only works with the new nexus devices as they dont have removable batteries and nexus S does, as for holding the power button for long time would the equivalent of taking out the battery if they had one that could be removed, at least thats what I understood
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I can do it in sgs, freeze etc hold power for 15 sec and its going off
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well on my gs3 and my note2 holding the power button just restarts the device.

Question about battery non removable

When my galaxy nexus freezes, nothing works until I do a battery pull
What happens with non removable batteries? Always been my biggest fear, is there a shortcut? Hold down a button?
The are times nothing works but a battery pull for me.
Thanks
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Bigal77 said:
When my galaxy nexus freezes, nothing works until I do a battery pull
What happens with non removable batteries? Always been my biggest fear, is there a shortcut? Hold down a button?
The are times nothing works but a battery pull for me.
Thanks
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It will have hold power button down, much like the Nexus 4/most other phones with non-removable battery.
Like an iPhone you hold Power/Home, etc..
Nothing new don't worry .

How do you get around a battery pull?

I pre-ordered the Sprint G2 variant & am anxiously awaiting it's arrival. Earlier today, after flashing a new beta kernal on my Note 2, it decided to freeze & lock up. In such a predicament, typically my last resort is to pull the battery & reboot. It made me wonder: Not having previously owned a phone with a non-removable battery, what are one's options with the G2 in such an instance?

Hold the power button

This doesn't always work on other phones with that functionality. How is the G2 different?

It is my understanding that this is a forced action with non-removable battery phones. It is hit or miss with removable ones though.

chconser said:
This doesn't always work on other phones with that functionality. How is the G2 different?
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Yes it does. it's like a kill switch for the battery. no matter what fails, holding that or specific button combination will kill it and do a hard reboot.
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Umm... no, it doesn't. As I said in my post above, my Note 2 has this hard reset functionality upon the long press of the power button. I can tell you from personal experience that there are certain instances where

Oops, hit submit by accident. Anyway, as I was saying, this doesn't always work with my Note 2 and other removable battery devices that I've had freeze up in the past. I'm wondering if it may be custom ROM/kernel related on those devices but again they all had the capability of a removable battery. Not trying to be argumentative, I just know that the long press of the power button hasn't always worked for me in a freeze/locked state on those devices.

chconser said:
Oops, hit submit by accident. Anyway, as I was saying, this doesn't always work with my Note 2 and other removable battery devices that I've had freeze up in the past. I'm wondering if it may be custom ROM/kernel related on those devices but again they all had the capability of a removable battery. Not trying to be argumentative, I just know that the long press of the power button hasn't always worked for me in a freeze/locked state on those devices.
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there is no way to remove the hold power button function, as it's buried deep inside the phone and is non-reliant on processes or the android system

aliaksei said:
there is no way to remove the hold power button function, as it's buried deep inside the phone and is non-reliant on processes or the android system
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So is this standard across devices?

chconser said:
So is this standard across devices?
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devices with non-removable batteries, yes

aliaksei said:
devices with non-removable batteries, yes
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This is the clarification I was looking for. Thanks!

Power Button

So this has been happening from like 2 months I got a Nexus.
The power button becomes periodically stiff and has to be pressed hard, 2-3 times sometimes to wake the phone. Currently on Purity+Stock kernel. Is it a kernel undervolt thing? Or should I go to service centre while it is still covered(but that would mean rolling back, unrooting,bleh!)?
Thank you!
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gobz said:
So this has been happening from like 2 months I got a Nexus.
The power button becomes periodically stiff and has to be pressed hard, 2-3 times sometimes to wake the phone. Currently on Purity+Stock kernel. Is it a kernel undervolt thing? Or should I go to service centre while it is still covered(but that would mean rolling back, unrooting,bleh!)?
Thank you!
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Most likely a hardware issue. Nexus power button is kinda easy to broke. :silly:
Either way try changing the kernel back to stock first and see how it goes.

gobz said:
So this has been happening from like 2 months I got a Nexus.
The power button becomes periodically stiff and has to be pressed hard, 2-3 times sometimes to wake the phone. Currently on Purity+Stock kernel. Is it a kernel undervolt thing? Or should I go to service centre while it is still covered(but that would mean rolling back, unrooting,bleh!)?
Thank you!
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Use a custom ROM with "Volume rocker wake" feature so you don't have to use the power button to wake the phone.

gobz said:
So this has been happening from like 2 months I got a Nexus.
The power button becomes periodically stiff and has to be pressed hard, 2-3 times sometimes to wake the phone. Currently on Purity+Stock kernel. Is it a kernel undervolt thing? Or should I go to service centre while it is still covered(but that would mean rolling back, unrooting,bleh!)?
Thank you!
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Is it a second hand device? I had my Nexus 4 since Jan 2013, and the power button became less responsive after precisely 1 year. *insert warranty conspiracy theory here*
I am thinking of getting a pressy-style device as a replacement power button from xiaomi. (Yes I know it's a knockoff, but it's many times cheaper and has an actual release date.)

It is a first hand device.
I'm trying different kernels atm. Will also try s2w!
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gobz said:
It is a first hand device.
I'm trying different kernels atm. Will also try s2w!
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dude if u have warranty go to the service center
im also having the same issue but my warranty period is over

for me no
I have more than 1 ayer with mine, and it's still great

nahh. I think I'm all alone. but hey same problem here mate. but currently using volume rocker wake :silly:

Mine too
I have this problem too. I´m using volume buttons to wake it but i´m afraid of this problem getting more serious and end up not working at all...
Mine was bought in November 2013 so I´ll take it to the service I guess.
What do you guys think, do you ever heard of any dead power button?
thx,

can you imagine?
dead power button?
what if the device got hang?
cannot access recovery and what so ever?
this is pretty dangerous for those who r kinda flasholic

taodan said:
Use a custom ROM with "Volume rocker wake" feature so you don't have to use the power button to wake the phone.
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If the rom has "volume rocker wake" does it mean i can use the volume buttons to power on the phone when it is powered off?

I am running a ROM with active notifications and coupled with screen off in the notification drawer I hardly ever need the power button. My button works fine but I have a launch day device and don't want to 'press' my luck ?

gamzerz said:
If the rom has "volume rocker wake" does it mean i can use the volume buttons to power on the phone when it's off?
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of course. thats is the function of volume rocker wake after all @[email protected]

zamzameir said:
of course. thats is the function of volume rocker wake after all @[email protected]
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I don't mean wake from sleep though. I mean to power it on from a completely powered off state (for example when it reaches 0% battery, it turns off completely. Then you charge it back up and turn it on)

gamzerz said:
I don't mean wake from sleep though. I mean to power it on from a completely powered off state (for example when it reaches 0% battery, it turns off completely. Then you charge it back up and turn it on)
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oh sori. my bad. but I think. no you cant