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Nook Owner thinking about buying SGT

I'm currently owning a Nook Color. I wanted it for reading books, reading pdfs (I can't find a lagfree Android pdf Reader!), browsing web and playing around.
I'm not happy with it. I'm from Germany, I payed about 300€ all in all for it with taxes and shipping costs.
I simply miss that I can't get any accessoires for it, that I don't have mobile Internet and the touchscreen makes problems.
I don't have a cellphone currently, I'm thinking about getting a case that let's me use my iPod as cellphone. But somehow I'd rather have a Samsung Galaxy Tablet, because I don't like it to have a device that wasn't ment to be an tablet and really is not a good tablet and together with the case for the iPod (70€) the SGT isn't a lot more expensive.
I think that I would still get about 200-250€ for my NC. I saw the Samsung Galaxy Tab for 350-400€on ebay.de.
What do you Samsung Galaxy Tab owners think, should I sell my NC to get a Samsung Galaxy Tab or should I stick with it?
PS: can one actually connect the tab to a TV with a video cable?

Well, I think you will get a lot more with the Galaxy Tab.
Overall I find it very usable and I enjoy it. Files in PDF can be read using Adobe reader and many others. I got Documents to Go and it gives me ability to read and edit MS format documents as well.
The Tab has everything that regular laptop has, plus GPS, compass, and cellular phone. You can get maps and navigation any time your need. GPS works better than on any phone because of the better antenna. Signal to noise ratio is more than 10 times higher. It should be noted that it supports Wifi at 5GHz in addition to 2.4GHz.
You can also make and receive phone calls while listening music through Bluetooth.
Overall Nook has a small fraction of the Tab's functionality.
Connecting the Tab to TV requires HDMI multimedia dock and HDMI cable with a small form factor connector on the dock side. You can also use Wifi streaming.
I would definitely vote for the Tab.

I'm in the DC area, i'm selling my galaxy tab for $350

Hi Diemex,
I use my galaxy tab in exactly the way you describe, I'm a postgrad student so I read ALOT of pdf files on my tab using Repligo to add comments to them and dropbox to sync with my desktop. I use Miren browser for 90% of my home web browsing and pulse reader for getting the news at Uni.
The tab is really stable on the modaco rom, but development isn't as fast as the NC, sometimes I wish there was more development, then I remind myself that functionality wise the tab has all the bases covered. When better kit comes along that the devs favour I will upgrade once the price falls. Until then the tab ticks all the boxes for me.
Edit: I'm waiting for an RCA cable to.arrive so that I can plug it into a T.V. via a scart adaptor.

The Tab is a good step up from the NC.
The rca cables are cool and allow me to stream movies and play games via the tab.
Protected movies like ones from the samsung movie site do not play through though
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I should have waited
dannyxda said:
I'm in the DC area, i'm selling my galaxy tab for $350
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I am in the area too and wanted to get a T-Mobile one... And ended up paying a pretty penny.
To respond to thre OP--the size and hardware are its best attributes.
The software is a total nightmare. It is slow, no updates in sight, missed key presses ... I am annoyed. I am not even trying to do anything complicated with it! No rooting, no cooked roms, just stock device.
It's like they are pushing crap and once they sell the stock they move on to other versions.
Save your money. Samsung built this thing well but it is half-baked and the developent on it has just fizzled out on this site. I have very limited skills or I would be porting and helping.
Oh, the Nook Color thing. KEEP IT. It is much better quality and the development for it is still rockin. Hello, it has a Honeycomb port. The Tab is nowhere near that and again, devs have moved on it seems.

sbrownla said:
To respond to thre OP--the size and hardware are its best attributes.
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Thats what I like about the NC too.
The software is a total nightmare. It is slow, no updates in sight, missed key presses ... I am annoyed. I am not even trying to do anything complicated with it! No rooting, no cooked roms, just stock device.
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I didn't look to bad to me.
I did all the rooting, overclocking stuff with my NC and it simply didnt make the device better.
Save your money. Samsung built this thing well but it is half-baked and the developent on it has just fizzled out on this site.
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The more limited a device it the more devs & hackers are interested in it....
For what should I wait - for Honeycomb Tegra 10.1 inch tablets?
I want a small versatile tablet for a good price
Oh, the Nook Color thing. KEEP IT. It is much better quality and the development for it is still rockin.
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I also thought that that is a big plus. But it doesnt compensate for it lacking a lot of hardware. And the quality of it is definetely not better than the SGT. The case is creacky and I'm getting frequent qhost taps and times when the display isnt working at all.
Hello, it has a Honeycomb port. The Tab is nowhere near that and again, devs have moved on it seems.
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Great a Honeycomb port, have you ever tried that port out? It's completely useless. I've been changing firmwares and kernels and all that stuff for the last 2 weeks and still ended up with froyo being the best.
I take my NC with me everywhere nearly, but it just has not enough functionality, and I'm thinking of leaving it simply at home to read books.

Personally, I am totally in love with my SGT. I have rooted and have overcome ROM 1.2.1 with the new overcome 2.0.1 kernel, and it is just awesome Although I liked it beforehand, and it was certainly well usable, the ROM/kernel made it a lot better.
I take mine absolutely everywhere, and it does everything for me.
Yeah, I have seen some of those Honeycomb ports, not the nook one but other SDK ports on other devices.... to be honest, personally, I would rather wait for the source to be released and a proper port to be done. These SDK "Ports" are just horrible. (Not trying to hijack at all, but really guys? You all really want a nearly totally non-functional port? First thing everyone will do is ***** that things don't work, but I digress)
In the meantime, my tab works Great I would definitely recommend one, especially if you like the portability a 7" device offers. From what I understand the screen is similar to, if not better than, the NC for book reading, and that is one thing my tab is used for a lot.
It is also my phone, portable media player (plays pretty much every format I've thrown at it, and plays 720p and 1080p stuff quite smooth, obviously scaled down for the screen res but still), portable Internet, and all round mate impresser

I don't think that there will be any affordable 7 inch tablet coming out this year (for me^^).
Also if they have better hardware and stuff like that - it would be simply like putting a porsche motor in a opel corsa (or some other car).
The companies try to make the customers believe that when one has a device with a better/great hardware, that one can automatically do more with it, or that it runs better.
With all the great tablet-apps that support dualcore processors that will definetely be the case this year. (sarcasm).
I can't think of a better 7'inch tablet for this prize (~350€)

At this time I can see only one future contender in the same 7inch category: HTC Flyer.
It promises scripting capability using bluetooth stylus that might be very useful.
I had a quite a few Palms and used scripting a lot. Also I had two HTC Android phones and built quality was very good.

the only thing that makes it better is that "magical" pen, but it's going to be 699$ and it's not out yet.

dannyxda said:
I'm in the DC area, i'm selling my galaxy tab for $350
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So am i! same place and price. its the vzw version

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the only thing that makes it better is that "magical" pen, but it's going to be 699$ and it's not out yet.
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Actually i'd say that the fact that HTC have stated that it will get Honeycomb is more interesting than the "pen" IMO.
Regards,
Dave

SGT will also get honeycomb, if not from samsung, then definetely from the devs or hackers.

I've got both and the tab is definatly a better choice.
@op by reading your remarks I can tell you are a pretty smary consumer. go with your inner voice and get the tab.
Unless ofcourse you just want to wait and see what coming but I doubt it will be much different in the near future.
Galaxy Tabs.....Worth every penny!!

Just picked up a SGT from VZW for $170 w/2yr contract.
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Nice,
Just went back to stock,
pdfviewing works great and fluent, I think stock is the best choice for standard consumer.
But still I'm quite sure that I'm going to buy the tab, it's going to last longer, or I think I will use it longer.
I looked at it at a local Shop,
put in my sdcard with apk's and pdfs, I was just messing around, trying out everything, the tab could even open my 350mb 250 pages fallout 3 game guide, nook takes for ever to load it.
It simply looked like the perfect all in one device that I was actually looking for, somehow got the Nook to try the tablet thing out, now it's time to upgrade my tablet.

rob61280 said:
Hi Diemex,
I use my galaxy tab in exactly the way you describe, I'm a postgrad student so I read ALOT of pdf files on my tab using Repligo to add comments to them and dropbox to sync with my desktop. I use Miren browser for 90% of my home web browsing and pulse reader for getting the news at Uni.
The tab is really stable on the modaco rom, but development isn't as fast as the NC, sometimes I wish there was more development, then I remind myself that functionality wise the tab has all the bases covered. When better kit comes along that the devs favour I will upgrade once the price falls. Until then the tab ticks all the boxes for me.
Edit: I'm waiting for an RCA cable to.arrive so that I can plug it into a T.V. via a scart adaptor.
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Well your wait has finished:
www.expansys.it/samsung-galaxy-tab-cavo-tv-out-204239/
Note that this way the tablet works with its own battery when tv connected differently from the powered hdmi dock

I was bitter yesterday. Very bitter.
I wish I still had my Nook Color sometimes, but I am coming to realize exactly how much potential the Galaxy Tab really has.
I just need to learn to be more patient.
Ommmmmmmm.

[INFO] Got Acer Iconia A500

So, I called BestBuy today to see if they have the Transformer in stock. The girl said no but she did note that they have "the Acer one." I realized it's the Iconia A500 that's suppose to release on Sunday. The manager was willing to let me open it and play with it. I ended up buying it.
It has few things over the Xoom (current have) and the Transformer it seems.
-NVIDIA’s ULP GeForce graphics on top of Tegra2
-Full USB on the tablet itself
-I heard rumors of the microUSB slot is also an inactive LTE 4G sim slot (not sure about this.
The screen is slightly better than the Xoom when compared.
I'm going to go back to Best Buy and compare to the Transformer on Tuesday if they get them in see how the 2 fair. We are looking at $50 difference.
Iconia A500 has full standalone GPS (it's advertised on the box). It also vibrates for gaming and notifications. Screen is not bad at all.
In the 2nd picture, Iconia is on top. Will post comparison later when it's fully charged.

Apparently, transformer does not have GPS chip in it. That is a real deal breaker.
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dumon said:
Apparently, transformer does not have GPS chip in it. That is a real deal breaker.
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You sure, many sources say it does. I think all official Honeycomb devices are going to have standalone GPS chip by default. The Xoom Wifi didn't have GPS advertised but, I put Copilot in it and it navigated perfect. I tethered to my phone, and Google Navigation was flawless. Don't worry about it. Transformer is going to have it too.

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Apparently, transformer does not have GPS chip in it. That is a real deal breaker.
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Where did you get this information please?
As far as i know that you need Wifi connection to set up destination and stuff. After that you can be out of wifi range you can still get tracking via gps. Also if there is map on your device the gps can work with that too...
Also Iconia dont have Gorilla glass. Which for me is a big plus for Transformer.

dumon said:
Apparently, transformer does not have GPS chip in it. That is a real deal breaker.
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It was confirmed yesterday by Anand that it DOES have GPS hardware - he confirmed with Asus. It should function just like the (edit) WiFi (/edit) Xoom does - for Google Maps, it needs a data connection (to stream map data)... but it should otherwise be able to pick up a GPS signal.
There are a few threads here talking about it and providing links and quotes and such... I just figured I'd try and mention this early on in this thread.

shin lucifer said:
Where did you get this information please?
As far as i know that you need Wifi connection to set up destination and stuff. After that you can be out of wifi range you can still get tracking via gps. Also if there is map on your device the gps can work with that too...
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Yup, it's a full GPS chip, stupid engadget has been falsely spreading bull about the Transformer tablet like wild. The map data is not stored locally, that's all.
Anyway, OP... is the screen s-ips? I'm holding out for the Transformer, but kinda curious...

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apparently, transformer does not have gps chip in it. That is a real deal breaker.
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it has gps!

gordec said:
It has few things over the Xoom (current have) and the Transformer it seems.
-NVIDIA’s ULP GeForce graphics on top of Tegra2
-Full USB on the tablet itself
-I heard rumors of the microUSB slot is also an inactive LTE 4G sim slot (not sure about this.
The screen is slightly better than the Xoom when compared.
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All Tegra 2 devices have the same ULP GeForce graphics. If they didn't, they'd have no use for a screen.
I haven't heard the rumors about the microUSB being an "inactive LTE 4G sim slot," and that really doesn't make much sense to me.
About the screen being better, that's interesting. I can't wait to compare the Transformer's to the Xoom's when I get my Asus hopefully next week. I'll report in when I do.

Wow, I didn't know the Xoom had a yellow tint like that.

We've already had 5 threads on this Yes, the transformer has gps.

LTE future 4G
From Slashgear recent review:
"There’s a removable cover at the top (or the side, however you’d like to look at it,) that reveals your SDcard slot and future functional slot for LTE SIM card. You can jam up to 64GB of memory on an SDcard in that first slot, while the SIM card slot remains inactive for now."
http://www.slashgear.com/acer-iconia-tab-a500-review-20147156/
Fact or fiction. You be the judge. Pretty exciting thought though if it's true.

Gordec, comparison aside, how do you find that the Iconia fits what you expect out of a tablet? Any surprises (good or bad) in there for you?

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From Slashgear recent review:
"There’s a removable cover at the top (or the side, however you’d like to look at it,) that reveals your SDcard slot and future functional slot for LTE SIM card. You can jam up to 64GB of memory on an SDcard in that first slot, while the SIM card slot remains inactive for now."
http://www.slashgear.com/acer-iconia-tab-a500-review-20147156/
Fact or fiction. You be the judge. Pretty exciting thought though if it's true.
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Yes, that makes some sense and it's how things are configured on the 3G Xoom. I'd been referring to your OP that said the "microUSB" was going to double as an LTE SIM card slot.
The big question would be, though: which carrier would allow the use of the tablet on their network without any branding? Normally, they like to sell these things themselves, although of course there are unlocked cell phones that aren't branded either.
I wonder if perhaps a place for a slot is there but will only be functional on a carrier-branded version one day? For example, the Xoom has the same space on the wifi-only version where the 3G version has a functional LTE SIM slot.
Does any Acer documentation confirm that the wifi-only version will one day be able to convert to a 4G version on a carrier? That would certainly be a plus...

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Wow, I didn't know the Xoom had a yellow tint like that.
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It probably doesn't have it. It's the effect of bad white balance of the photo. Or it could be viewing angles related (but in reality it will never be that bad).

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It probably doesn't have it. It's the effect of bad white balance of the photo. Or it could be viewing angles related (but in reality it will never be that bad).
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all the moto droid phones I've played with had a yellowish tint, even the cameras had the tint. the xoom was no different.

jamerican413 said:
Gordec, comparison aside, how do you find that the Iconia fits what you expect out of a tablet? Any surprises (good or bad) in there for you?
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It's lighter than the Xoom but the construction doesn't feel as expensive and sturdy as the Xoom or Ipad even though the back suppose to be aluminum. It's not bad but not great. Otherwise, it feels the same as Xoom There is no Acer custom UI at all, just pure Google experience tablet.
Wifi, GPS and USB both work as is described. My old Western Digital MyBook Syncs pretty well. Some review say external HDs don't work, but mine worked fine. It supports FAT or FAT32 only though. My NTSC USB jump drive didn't read.
Overall I would say little nicer screen than the Xoom. The experience is the same. Full USB is a big plus for me. I have to see what the Transformer's IPS screen looks like though.

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Does any Acer documentation confirm that the wifi-only version will one day be able to convert to a 4G version on a carrier? That would certainly be a plus...
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Nope, Acer's manual doesn't mention it. It doesn't even mention that the Sim slot is there, just say microSD slot. I'm too lazy to call Acer.
I don't see a significant advantage of the Iconia over the Transformer on paper.
Iconia:
Pros:
- full USB
- Dolby sound
Cons:
- possibly less stellar screen
- $50 more
Transformer
Pros:
- IPS screen
- $50 cheaper
Con:
- no USB on the tablet
I wouldn't even place the whole ghost sim slot into your decision making. I doubt this version would support 4G.

gordec said:
Nope, Acer's manual doesn't mention it. It doesn't even mention that the Sim slot is there, just say microSD slot. I'm too lazy to call Acer.
I don't see a significant advantage of the Iconia over the Transformer on paper.
Iconia:
Pros:
- full USB
- Dolby sound
Cons:
- possibly less stellar screen
- $50 more
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Pros:
- IPS screen
- $50 cheaper
Con:
- no USB on the tablet
I wouldn't even place the whole ghost sim slot into your decision making. I doubt this version would support 4G.
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The sound doesn't matter one bit, by the way the transformer has "SRS 3D" sound. In reality they're all just tiny speakers with subpar sound.

Thanks for the info, OP. Please keep us updated on your thoughts on the Iconia. I was looking into the Iconia and was disappointed to not find many comprehensive reviews out on the Interwebz on it.

gordec said:
It's lighter than the Xoom but the construction doesn't feel as expensive and sturdy as the Xoom or Ipad even though the back suppose to be aluminum. It's not bad but not great. Otherwise, it feels the same as Xoom There is no Acer custom UI at all, just pure Google experience tablet.
Wifi, GPS and USB both work as is described. My old Western Digital MyBook Syncs pretty well. Some review say external HDs don't work, but mine worked fine. It supports FAT or FAT32 only though. My NTSC USB jump drive didn't read.
Overall I would say little nicer screen than the Xoom. The experience is the same. Full USB is a big plus for me. I have to see what the Transformer's IPS screen looks like though.
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So... do you think you like it enough to keep it, knowing there are a sea of tablets coming down the pipeline?

[Q] Any drawback of A500?

Hi folks over A500 forum, i'm thinking to get myself an A500, but i afraid that i'll regret buying this tablet, because i've read some quite hmmm.... negative feedback about it.
some says that the charger wouldnt charge [i can assume that he has a faulty unit], poor mic, gps, unresponsive keyboard, weak wifi. So can anyone of you kindly enough to tell me what can i expect this tablet will be weak at?
I can tolerate at the poor camera quality though.
Please tell me, thanks!~

I have not found any issues at all with my tab. It is not an A500 but may as well be. (Gateway A60 running A500 roms). I use it at work and at home.
This tablet is pretty much perfect. The camera quality is fine as far as I am concerned (Front and rear), it is easily rootable, even if you install the OTA updates and the price point is where it needs to be.
The only thing that I have been on the lookout for is ICS but so far I am OK with HC. Way better than the Froto on my gtablet.

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I have not found any issues at all with my tab. It is not an A500 but may as well be. (Gateway A60 running A500 roms). I use it at work and at home.
This tablet is pretty much perfect. The camera quality is fine as far as I am concerned (Front and rear), it is easily rootable, even if you install the OTA updates and the price point is where it needs to be.
The only thing that I have been on the lookout for is ICS but so far I am OK with HC. Way better than the Froto on my gtablet.
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Thanks! Perfect info. Any more? =D

Go to the store and play with the Tablets... the gps is a issue.. mic is a issue (only with video chat)
you need to root to fix the gps issues the patch is in the dev section also to tether again patch here in the forum.
keyboard that is stuck sucks badly... install THUMBS KEYBOARD
SUMMERY REQUIRED TO MAKE MY ICONIA PERFECT FOR ME..
BUY AND PUT A SCREEN PROTECTOR ON IT. (Even Gorilla glass can Scratch)
ROOT. install acer recovery install .. flash recovery ... Im now using the RA Recovery
install Root Explorer file manager (there is a free verson on makert.but support the dev BUY IT)
Install Titanium Backup (again Buy it DEV is awesome on this program)but to many updates pushed to often
Install the ad-hoc fix.
install Thumbs Keyboard
Install the gps fix
Install splashtop HD.. (to access my home computer)
Install IPRINT APP for my Brother Printer.
Install Office Program.. (i have two some do certin things better then other . find the one thats right for you)
Install CO-PILOT (THIS ACTUALLY BELONGS BELOW THE GPS PATCH)
Install sync sms .(to forword text msg to and from my tablet from my phone)required drop box account
Install DROP BOX
Flash my UI FOLDERS. to change the colors of the ui to A BURGUNDY Pinkish Color.. (I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS .ADVANCED USER EXPERIENCE REQUIRED)AND DEV TOOLS Needed on your Computer and I USE ADOBE CS5..
Setup my email accounts sometime in the above events
Backup my tab with T B
BACKUP MY TAB AGAIN IN RECOVERY..
After all of the above.. my tablet fits my life Perfectly..

As already said by others, weak GPS, keyboard kinda sucks, glossy screen that really shows finger prints, etc. What I haven't seen mentioned, is the inability to properly play HD mkv's, most ppl will say you don't need high quality on tablet, and they are right, but, what if you want to hook your tab to a hotel TV to watch HD, etc. There also seems to be a lot of stuff in the market that is not compatible with this tab (specifically for me, mybuick and onstar)
That being said, having a usable USB port is pretty handy, the micro SD,(missing on the Zoom) micro HDMI are all nice to have. Microphone works well for apps like Skype as long as you use headphones.

You should be using headphones for video conversations anyway, otherwise the mic picks up the sounds coming from the speaker and then you have yourself a poorstorm of feedback.
I have never had any sort of keyboard issue with my tab. This is actually the first I heard of any sort of keyboard issue.
The rear camera is 5 megapixels, so expect 5 megapixel quality. Except for the newest Tegra3 tabs, this is the best camera you can get on a tablet.
You have to expect that this tablet comes from the first generation of real Android tablets that hi the market. As a result, you have to expect that there will be some issues with it. The good thing is that devs has created fixes for common problems (like GPS, wifi etc) so if you are someone who is in to rooting, this is a great tablet.

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You should be using headphones for video conversations anyway, otherwise the mic picks up the sounds coming from the speaker and then you have yourself a poorstorm of feedback.
I have never had any sort of keyboard issue with my tab. This is actually the first I heard of any sort of keyboard issue.
The rear camera is 5 megapixels, so expect 5 megapixel quality. Except for the newest Tegra3 tabs, this is the best camera you can get on a tablet.
You have to expect that this tablet comes from the first generation of real Android tablets that hi the market. As a result, you have to expect that there will be some issues with it. The good thing is that devs has created fixes for common problems (like GPS, wifi etc) so if you are someone who is in to rooting, this is a great tablet.
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So true.. MY TAB WORKS Well as stated above.. But it does not come without some work... i have read forums of other tablets. we have less trouble then average..

Oh ok, thx for those feedbacks! BTW, have any of you suffer from keyboard delay? I played Transformer, G Tab10.1, and A500 at the store before, and fall in love with the port and weight of this tablet. But the thing that frustrated me is the keyboard delay it has[btw, i dont really know what happened on that tablet though]
And how was the wifi strength? I heard reports say that it drops quickly?

I love my a500 and should you learn to root and flash you'll uncover the real power and potential in the device. that being said it should be mentioned the a500 is old tech that is going to be replaced by newer more powerful models this year. as these models come out the cutting edge developers will migrate and Dec on the a500 will slow down somewhat. this does not mean the a500 isn't a good purchase option. its great hardware that with the right software is just amazing. but it is on the backside of its lifespan and that carries some downfalls that should be mentioned.

A501, same as A500 except with 3g...
I've never had wifi dropouts, either at home or at work.
The public wifi at work is pretty bad but I have never had a problem logging on and its never dropped out.
Keyboard, again no issue here...
Haven't really played with GPS properly but do use co-pilot. I do find we seem to have pretty bad satellite reception here in OZ but when I have played around it seems pretty reliable, but again only done short trips...
Love the USB, this is why I bought the Acer A501 in the 1st place, no other tab had one. Expandable memory also a BIG plus...
I like the fact I can attach a 1Tb HDD and use this on my tab too...
No real problems, aside from the locked bootloaders Acer insists on sticking on its tabs, most things are fairly good.

I love my A500, but after taking it to meetings and with me pretty much all the time, I find it a bit heavy. I use it almost exclusively professionally and end up using dropbox more than USB drives. I would probably go with a GT10.1 because of the weight and thickness.

Thanks guy! but i bought the G Tab 10.1 instead of A500, because it is really a lot lighter than A500, and my dad prefers it more ;D
Thanks anyway!

Picked up my A500 from The Source on a boxing day special price. It was a bit of an impulse, but also a bit of tech jealousy as my cousin had bought one the week before so he could learn to program apps for it and I got to play with it a bit on New Years. ANYWAYS. I loved it right away, and the prospect of rooting it was pretty awesome.
I have zero faults with this machine. It looks great, works great, was easily unlocked/rooted, and there is a ton of support on this forum. I just keep trying out new roms (4 diff. builds so far) and new kernels (on my 3rd one of those), and I'm having a lot of fun with it.
Only drawback is that I didn't buy one sooner.

picking one up today... 32GB for $220 I think its a fair deal...main reason i would even consider it is becuase its ICS upgradable
I also have a HP Touchpad with CM9 ICS... thats a great piece of equipment if your into modding as well!

mind telling where you got 32gb one for that price?? Im looking to get one myself by budgets tight so any savings is appreciated.
BTW one question about the tablet itself can someone give me an idea about the average battery life, Yes i know battery life is very subjective but i need some kind of referance as i read a review by engadget and it basically said the iconia had the worst battery life of all of the major 10 inch tablets.

220$ for a 32gb?! Who did you steal this from?? haha
I got mine from acer's official ebay store, 330$ (shipping+tax included), refurb 32gb. Works fine.

docnas said:
mind telling where you got 32gb one for that price?? Im looking to get one myself by budgets tight so any savings is appreciated.
BTW one question about the tablet itself can someone give me an idea about the average battery life, Yes i know battery life is very subjective but i need some kind of referance as i read a review by engadget and it basically said the iconia had the worst battery life of all of the major 10 inch tablets.
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I've gotten 5 days on standby with battery drain to 42% (busy week, it just sat on the bedside table for that time no usage). I figure it could have gotten to 10 days.
When I was using it as an e-reader running the Kindle app almost exclusively I was getting on average 3 days of use between charges, reading for about 3-4 hours a day (Game of Thrones books are LONG and addictive).
Right now I've been playing games on it and I can easily go a whole day (overclocked at 1504mhz) before having to charge it.
Standby had wifi turned on, but off when the screen was off. Reading I always had it in airplane mode, and playing games can be a mix between airplane and wifi. Actually it hasn't seemed to make a huge difference that I can see.

Bluetooth 4.0

Hi!
Quick question.
Is there any way you can check whether N7 has got the latest bluetooth? Meaning, the latest N7s have bluetooth 4.0 (Low energy, Smart, whatever they call it)
I was thinking maybe you can look up S/N in store and be sure you got it before purchase.
I really need BT4.0 for my sport equipment.
Cheers!

You're in luck Mr. Damon! You'll soon be working on that impeccable physique with this gem of a tablet strapped to your torso!
Its wifi also takes up a ridiculously low amount of power btw (same chip).

If you mean Bluetooth Smart (aka Bluetooth Low Energy), the Nexus 7 does *NOT* have built-in support for it.
If you want to see support for it, go here, log in w/ your google account and click on the Star at the upper left to make it more important:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
iOS and WP8 both have OS support for it (the GATT BT API). Android Jelly Bean does not

Hush man, you're scaring away Matt Damon! Geez... It's not like he would've noticed anyway. Now next time we'll see him on tv holding some iCrap -.-
Besides, the N7 hardware more than supports BTLE, it's only a matter of time before an update enables it.

LOL. The real Matt Damon is from Boston
Yep, I know the N7 hardware supports BTLE, but as of now, there's no support for it
Even the popular Samsung S3 has no software support for it
And HTC devices don't (same issue as S3...even w/ the 3rd party broadcom-le library, a shared library that has to be provided by the manufacturer is missing).
AFAIK, only a subset of Motorola devices do (mostly their RAZR ones).
I've been digging for a while tonight...got a bluetooth LE heart rate monitor today and went digging for why it couldn't be seen by my S3 and ended up checking my N7 too

Anyone using this device as a phone?

I want a big screen phone.
I've been looking into various 7+" phablet options from overseas and haven't found the one, yet. Then I started thinking about a tablet, made for use in the US, with 4g service... Why not just use that as a phone? Software options like GrooveIP make it pretty easy... I was just wondering if anyone else was doing this (this this device or others), and what your experience has been.
Thank you.

i used it a few time with a voip app and results were alright considering that i had to use the speakerphone the whole time. bluetooth/wired headset would have been alright as there wouldnt be a difference between this and a phone. there is no ear speaker so those are the only options. if youre going to get a tablet for voip only i think a tab e 8" would be cheaper.

42o247 said:
If you're going to get a tablet for voip only i think a tab e 8" would be cheaper.
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That's the thing. I'd like to make this my one device, so I'm looking for unlimited LTE (which is more a carrier/plan issue than device, decent speed, and a good screen. Pocketability doesn't matter that much to me, but I'm looking for 7"-8". If I didn't have to order it from China, that'd be a bonus.

nathanotis said:
That's the thing. I'd like to make this my one device, so I'm looking for unlimited LTE (which is more a carrier/plan issue than device, decent speed, and a good screen. Pocketability doesn't matter that much to me, but I'm looking for 7"-8". If I didn't have to order it from China, that'd be a bonus.
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youll have to check to see if it will work with your carrier i guess.

717 people can't be wrong... As of this writing, that's how many times this thread has been viewed.
For anyone who is curious, I pulled the trigger on the Tab E 2 weeks ago and have been using it as my sole device, phone calls included, for that time. It's everything I'd hoped it would be... but there are some short comings, too. In truth, 8" is probably a touch too large for my application, but I've been enjoying all the screen real estate. Sadly, the resolution is poor compared to recent-gen phones. It's also quite thick and heavy for it's size. Strange things to complain about given my desire for a huge device, but I'm scanning the "release horizon" for a more current, thin and lightweight powerhouse to replace this one, (hopefully soon). I wish I didn't dislike iPads, cause a Mini would foot the bill...
I'm using Hangouts for calls and that's working ok. There are no front facing speakers so "phone" functions utilize the speaker on the back of the device, making things awkward if I don't have some kind of headset, headphones or bluetooth device handy... Honestly, I use the "phone" so little, it doesn't matter to me.
Google Voice integrates seamlessly with Sprint service and I've been using that to send SMS from computers for a long time, so that's my go to for SMS. G.V. doesn't handle MMS or group messaging though, so I'm looking for options there.
The camera stinks. I take quick photos a lot more than I realized, so this is a feature I'm sorely missing. Well, not "missing" because it HAS a camera... The images are pretty bad, though.
So, screen resolution/clarity, a decent camera, and the performance of a good, powerful processor are the only things I'm missing with this device. It's a good experiment so far and I got a good deal on it from Sprint (free is good, right?).
I also wish there were more dev support cause a good, clean aosp rom would really help out performance, I'd guess.
My final issue so far is that many applications STILL don't scale well to tablet size. Some operations are cumbersome and there are awkward feeling layouts that throw me off till I get oriented.
This is a bunch of complaints, but I'm still calling this experiment a success. I'm going to keep using the Tab E as my only daily device til such time as the Imaginary Svelte Unicorn 7" Retina device is released. (I'd cross my fingers, but that makes it tough to type.)