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disable metro in cp ?
the other methods not working
maybe with DP files we can recover it ?
changing explorer.exe not going so well
metro disappear but start is not functional
also desktop is not working
explorerframe.dll not helping here
it might need more files from DP
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the other methods not working
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Can you be more specific which methods you mean?
i.e., the RPEnabled registry change, renaming shsxs.dll, third party tools, or something else??
i would like to know this as well, ive tried the small program download that does the registry entry for you.
Considering it's still a "preview" I'd assume the RPEnabled method will still work, only issue is because the start orb is gone would the start menu come back, etc.
The register and dll files changed so none of the previous methods I found work.
"RPEnabled" is gone and so is "shsxs.dll".
And also the little tool that does this for you from deviantart which just changes the "RPEnabled" and in Windows 8 consumer preview creates it since it's not there, doesn't work.
Hi everybody,
I've started a new Thread with a petition for Microsoft, to let us decide whether or not we want Metro.
Check it out, and sign it, please.
FORUM THREAD
i think its dead end with win7 style on windows 8 cp
DWM is not longer normal service its hidden in the kernel i think
maybe install the old DWM of DP will do the trick
So any progress?
I somewhat assumed that CP will be the same as DP so just overwritten the sys...
And boy what a mistake that was :'(
Tried every possible prog, reg out there and nothing works
Try this http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2460-start-menu-toolbar-create-windows-8-taskbar.html
I also replaced developer Preview with consumer preview, what a mistake!
If there will be way to enable the classic start menu or to disable Metro it is time to say goodbye to Windows. Since Unity is unusable too, Linux Mint will be the system of my choice. But especially for corporate use there must be a hidden option since I cannot imagine being productive with metro at all.
gpedit.msc brings hundreds of options, maybe something is hidden there?
maybe there hide link like god mode ?
I hope that in some time, we still have a choice, to use a touchscreen, or a mouse/keyb.
We SHOULD have the choice! (So any luck on finding a hidden start orb?)
Yeah I just installed Windows 8 to a work computer for testing and I don't see it being a productive tool at all. I can already hear the complaints and see the trouble tickets being put in by freaked out and irate end users. WT? is Microsoft thinking? Don't get me wrong, I would use it on a tablet or a home computer but this will just confuse people who have been using a traditional desktop with icons and a start menu since like Windows 1.0.
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Hi everybody,
I've started a new Thread with a petition for Microsoft, to let us decide whether or not we want Metro.
Check it out, and sign it, please.
FORUM THREAD
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Just signed it because if we don't voice our opinion then they will dictate what we can and can't do on Windows 8 just like they did on Windows Phone by locking it down and make it almost useless.
http://www.eightforums.com/customization/4182-missing-start-button-workaround.html
Try this
Hi there people,
I've started a petition in Change.org hopping that Microsoft listen to it.
Let me be clear about it:
I am not asking to neutralize Metro, as I understand it is the only way to have a proper Windows, fully funtional, into a Touch device, such tablets or laptops.
I am only asking to let us decide if we want Metro activated or not in Desktop PCs. Today's world is made of decisions. Let us decide on our own what we want.
We will all have the same Kernel, same core and same quality and performance, and being able to choose interface, will add the best experience for each one of us: the one we trully want.
Please sign the petition, and make it reach Microsoft.
Thank u very much.
http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-company-allow-to-disable-or-decide-whether-we-want-metro-interface-or-not
PS: I couldn' find Microsoft e-mail from Redmond or similar, if anyone has it, please PM me, and I'll add it to the petition.
Thanks. I've tried the Consumer Preview and couldn't agree more. Signed.
nodjack said:
Thanks. I've tried the Consumer Preview and couldn't agree more. Signed.
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Little by Little, lets change it and improve Windows! thanks!
If you can't accept Metro then stay with Windows 7, simple as that. Support for Win7 has been extended till 2020 so there is no need to move on to Windows 8 if you don't like its interface.
I am not against Metro, I like it, but against HOW they implemented it for desktop PCs. For tablets and netbooks or smaller notebooks with touchscreen it's actually realy great.
The point is the missing harmony between the old styled windows desktop you are using the most time if you are at home or at work and the new Metro UI, espacily the switching between the two modes and the implemantation of elemental functions like the system settings.
It's like an interuption if you "click" start. I am not against a new type of "start menu/screen" but it should fit the design and "feeling". It should support the (desktop)user in his work. In the current way this is not possible. The Metro surface allows to pin this realy nice live tiles (I realy like them!)... but if I push the start button I want to start a new application to do some work.
Ok, I can pin my favourite applications on the screen like I did with Windows 7 by pinning my mostly used programs to the start screen. But some applications I am using are changing by time so i enjoy the feature of the dynamical menu entries of frequently used programs like in vista and 7. If I want the same quick program launch on Metro I have to pin a lot of tiles to the screen and the live tiles become obsolete because they are somewhere right out of the screen.
They could have done it so much better...
the best way (in my oppinion) for desktops would have been to
a) chose between metro on - metro off
or
b)go much further:
1. consistent design (colors, icons, fonts,...)
2. pin live tiles on the desktop (like on metro start screen, maybe with a smaller size) or the taskbar (only with the notification, no messages, like it's done on MacOS or the IE9)
3. run Metro styled apps in a new kind of window including the buttons from the charmbar (share, search, settings). so all this "swiping" (with a mouse!) is not necesary but you get some kind of consistence between the usability of tablets, deskopts, and phone but keep the simple task management from windows.
4. a start menu mix between the old one and the search dialog from Metro.
Hm... just noticed my english sucks to express my rage about win 8 xD
Maybe I should run Photoshop and make some concepts how it should look
morpheuszg said:
If you can't accept Metro then stay with Windows 7, simple as that. Support for Win7 has been extended till 2020 so there is no need to move on to Windows 8 if you don't like its interface.
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Is it so hard to add an option to get both interfaces ? Just to keep everybody happy and updated.
I don't think so.
I like the new kernel, about a 25% smaller, very fast and better working. I don't wanna miss that, but I am totally against buying a new Touch Monitor only for using Win 8.
That's too much for me. And if u take a look over some forums, we are many who think the same.
plus there are some nice new features in windows 8
Plus, I'd love to be able to sync between Win 8 without Metro on my desktop and Win 8 on my future tablet with Metro.
So yeah, staying on Windows 7 is a poor solution.
lol...trust me, this won't make any difference. Half of the internet doesn't like Metro (myself included).
Microsoft know this...they are aware of what people are saying, but they won't change it.
the_scotsman said:
Microsoft know this...they are aware of what people are saying, but they won't change it.
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Well, I (and others) will vote with my wallet. Hopefully Microsoft will change it for win9. I don't see how win8 is better than win7. Anything new is metro related, which is useless for desktop.
P. S.
I switched to Kubuntu on one of my computers already. It has all I need.
I find Windows 8 is boooting up and running faster than Windows 7.
There is a lot more than just Metro that's changed. The kernel has been improved for one thing.
Yeah.. Voting with my wallet sounds about right. Not digging the demo builds right now.
Microsoft has this knack for screwing the pooch on revolutionary software. Lets face it, 2002 was basically updated NT4 and XP took that and stuff that ACTUALLY work from WinME.. Not there was. Vista was the first "new" Windows in a while. And Win7 is still version 6 [dot something]. Any OS that has been successful also had decent hardware to back it up.
That being said... This is a preview build. MS have heavily inferred they are giving someyhing that is nothing like the RTM. Well for PCs at least.
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What I cannot understand is why Microsoft, in the past, launched about 10 or so versions of windows 7 ( Enterprise, Home Premium, Starter, Profesional, Ultimate, Enterprise N, Home Premium N, Profesional N, Ultimate N... etc ) and now, when they really need to add One more version with Normal Desktop added in kernel, they decide not to do it.
It's a pity, but there's going to be a lot of people staying in Win 7 or migrating to Linux or Mac.
You know Metro isnt your only option right, you can go to desktop mode as well?
I haven't tried the consumer preview, but I used the developer preview extensively, and I remember that there was a registry key you could modify and get the win7 interface back...
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I haven't tried the consumer preview, but I used the developer preview extensively, and I remember that there was a registry key you could modify and get the win7 interface back...
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Doesn't work on the Consumer Preview. All the Windows 7 Start Menu bits have been removed from this build.
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You know Metro isnt your only option right, you can go to desktop mode as well?
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That's a white lie. When you pick desktop mode you dont get same desktop as always. You get a reduced version without stat button.
And in new desktop you get instead 4 motion-reactive corners that, for instance in some FPS games just sucks and bothers all the time.
Thats the desktop you get: a reduced, corner-active,weird version of what real desktop was.
Lie to yourself not to us.
i dont get it,
the desktop is still there , right? so why this petition.
dont like metro, dont use metro apps!
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xatornet said:
That's a white lie. When you pick desktop mode you dont get same desktop as always. You get a reduced version without stat button.
And in new desktop you get instead 4 motion-reactive corners that, for instance in some FPS games just sucks and bothers all the time.
Thats the desktop you get: a reduced, corner-active,weird version of what real desktop was.
Lie to yourself not to us.
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, desktop is there, window app function like it always has , start menu is there, just lil a bit hidden and replace with metro theme. OMG you sound like whining for nothing.
dialupboy said:
desktop is there, window app function like it always has , start menu is there, just lil a bit hidden and replace with metro theme. OMG you sound like whining for nothing.
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Start menu? No. Metro is not start menu. And the petition is to ADD a selection of kind of interface, not to erase Metro. Read it first, and then start spitting your thoughts.
I do not want to have a "bit hidden and replaced" start menu. I like it as it was before, because it defined Windows as Operative System. What we are having now is a weird mixture of Windows Phone and Xbox Dashboard, which is wonderfull for Tablets, but a complete sh*t for Desktops with keyboard and mouse.
If you like metro, allright, keep it, but why not having an option to get traditional start menu? Would it be so hard to get questioned at installation whether I want it or not?
I am asking to add something more to the OS, not to erase something from it.
And if my whining bothers you, feel free to get out of this thread and visit different ones. Thanks.
have you tried using the hot key short cuts? or navigating metro by typing the app name you are looking for? I take it both are likely no. I'm telling you Metro isn't just for touch screens, a power user can navigate it quickly with no trouble, and it's a lot easier than searching through an endless list of programs in the start menu. If you want 8 and the start menu just add http://www.vistastartmenu.com/ MS shouldn't stop trying to revolutionize the way we use computers over people who want to hold on to the old way. Touch screens are becoming increasingly more common, smart phones and tablets are changing the way people learn to interact with software, and Microsoft is headed in the direction it should be.
Hello,
I have been searching high and low for a way to force my shiny new HTC 8x to accept a 512-bit Self-Signed Certificate. Our work email server is Lotus/IBM Domino. We have an EAS server (Notes Traveler) set up for our portable devices. MIcrosoft is the only OS that forces 1024-bit or greater certs. As a result, I cannot connect ot our EAS server.
More info can be found at support.microsoft.com/kb/2661254?wa=wsignin1.0
Through all the research I have been doing, I think it is possible to do this, since you can make it work with WIndows 8 by doing one of two things:
1.Add following in the registry:
reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Cryptography\OID\EncodingType 0\CertDllCreateCertificateChainEngine\Config" /v minRSAPubKeyBitLength /t REG_DWORD /d 0x00000200 /f
2. use the built-in certutil to modify the registry:
certutil -setreg chain\minRSAPubKeyBitLength 512
Any thoughts on how I can do this with Windows Phone 8? I am in the process of developer-unlocking my device. I just need to wait for the SDK to finish installing into my VM.
As far as I know, there's no way to edit the registry with developer unlock.
You need more elevated privileges (Interop Unlock) and, at this moment, there's no way to obtain that on Windows Phone 8.
I know this isn't the response you are looking for, but recommend to your company to update their SSL certificate to 1024 or 2048 bits. The reason your phone won't support the 512 bit certificate is simply because it is not secure, which Microsoft finally stopped allowing last year..
Since your company is using a self-signed certificate, it should only take them a few minutes to create and install a new one that modern operating systems would support.
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I know this isn't the response you are looking for, but recommend to your company to update their SSL certificate to 1024 or 2048 bits. The reason your phone won't support the 512 bit certificate is simply because it is not secure, which Microsoft finally stopped allowing last year..
Since your company is using a self-signed certificate, it should only take them a few minutes to create and install a new one that modern operating systems would support.
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My IT department was surprisingly open to this, once they realized all the Windows PCs couldn't log into the web interface anymore. It might take a couple of weeks/months of planning to put it into their maintenance cycle, though. Oh the joys of working for a large corporation!
Something else I discovered earlier:
In order to write Windows Phone apps, you need the Windows Phone 8 SDK. To Install the Windows Phone 8 SDK, you need Windows 8. When I have time to set up another DEV box with Windows 8 on it, I might revisit this.
Any thoughts on how the OEM apps always seem to get "enhanced" access? (The HTC Carrier Settings tool, for example). I haven't used Windows Phone since 6.0. Back then, we could do ANYTHING! lol
I didn't even notice the Win8 requirement for the SDK, since I was anxious to upgrade to Win8 once it came out. Hmm. But, I think you could use the older 7.x SDK on older versions of Windows, if you want to get used to dev for Windows Phone (as WP7 Apps should still work on WP8).
About why the OEM can do special things to the device, I think it's a simple matter of, they have the OS code, so they can modify it or access things we can't.
OEM Apps are given additional permissions. They request these using some entries in the App-manifest but even if we were able to set these the system would reject their deployment unless they had a proper certificate. It has been that way on WP7 as well.
As for developing on Win7 and deploying to a WP8 device: it won't work. You can run WP7 Apps on WP8 devices but the deployment tools of the WP7 SDK can't handle WP8 devices. So to deploy anything onto a WP8 device you need the WP8 SDK which in turn requires Windows 8 Pro.
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Hello XDA. I recently updated to WIndows 10 on my desktop at home, I have it installed on a rather outdated Dell Optiplex 755 tower (which I found impressive considering it's a new OS but still supports a wide variety of devices). I am a huge Rainmeter fan, I've used it religiously since Windows 7 and I love it's many options and themes. Currently (like my previous versions of Windows) I have it always running on my desktop, everything from a minimal clock to a notepad, system diagnostics and CPU bars, weather, etc. Like Windows 7 and 8/8.1, Windows 10 has the "jump to desktop" shortcut button on the far right of the taskbar at the bottom if you want to jump to your desktop and minimize all other open windows. In Windows 7 and 8/8.1, if you clicked on this button you would jump to the desktop but rainmeter (or any other desktop customization tool) would remain there unaltered. You could jump to your desktop, but it would not close or minimize unless you specifically made it do so.
So my question is, is there any method to make this happen in Windows 10? I use Rainmeter all the time, and I'm glad that Windows 10 continues to support it's use. But every time I jump to my desktop from the taskbar, Rainmeter is closed out along with any other desktop tools I have running and I have to manually restart them to make them visible again (basically, "jump to desktop" brings up my wallpaper and whatever shortcuts are immediately visible, and that's it).
Perhaps there is a registry tweak or some other option to fix this. I'm familiar with windows, but I couldn't seem to find any details that would help within the registry editor or other system settings. Please help me with this issue, it would be GREATLY appreciated, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants this fixed as Rainmeter is a relatively popular application for Windows.