[Q] Will the Nexus 4 come packaged with the inductive charger? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Or will it be an accessory which takes another 6 months to hit the market and cost another $100+?

versd said:
Or will it be an accessory which takes another 6 months to hit the market and cost another $100+?
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That would be awesome if it did come with it, but I highly doubt it will. They will probably charge some ridiculous amount of money for it. This is what the play store says is in the box..
What's In The Box
Nexus 4 phone
USB sync/charge cable
AC Adapter and cable
SIM ejection tool
Safety and Warranty information
Quick start guide

No. It won't.

my opinion is that it will cost around $30-50. Wouldn't mind paying $30 for it, but not a penny more.

I believe the Nexus 4 uses standard Qi charging technology. No word on the official Nexus charging orb, but if you're just looking for a wireless charging solution, you can find charging mats on Amazon etc. Most of the ones I've seen are fairly expensive though.

USB sync/charge cable
AC Adapter and cable
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Not sure what this means. USB cable (micro / usb) but then AC adapter and cable?

theoneofgod said:
Not sure what this means. USB cable (micro / usb) but then AC adapter and cable?
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I would assume it's just the standard charger that comes with every other phone

emc523 said:
I believe the Nexus 4 uses standard Qi charging technology. No word on the official Nexus charging orb, but if you're just looking for a wireless charging solution, you can find charging mats on Amazon etc. Most of the ones I've seen are fairly expensive though.
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Anyone have any in depth knowledge of the inductive charging?
Will any inductive power charging mat work? Or does it have to have something specific to the lgnexus?

versd said:
Anyone have any in depth knowledge of the inductive charging?
Will any inductive power charging mat work? Or does it have to have something specific to the lgnexus?
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The charger has to use the Qi standard for wireless charging. Some say that the old, now very cheap, Palm Touchstones may work but there is no official word on whether they use Qi. We'll just have to wait and see.

raze599 said:
The charger has to use the Qi standard for wireless charging. Some say that the old, now very cheap, Palm Touchstones may work but there is no official word on whether they use Qi. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Do you have a source to state that the qi standard charging is used?
Thanks!

versd said:
Do you have a source to state that the qi standard charging is used?
Thanks!
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Here are the sources:
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/10/30/nexus-4-accessories-new-google-wireless-charging-orb/
Paragraph 3.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/01/nexus_4_qi/
Also paragraph 3.

raze599 said:
Here are the sources:
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/10/30/nexus-4-accessories-new-google-wireless-charging-orb/
Paragraph 3.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/01/nexus_4_qi/
Also paragraph 3.
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Thanks.

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Xoom Charger

Does anyone know what kind of charger the xoom uses? Is it the micro USB like the droids? I hope so. Thanks.
lanternca said:
Does anyone know what kind of charger the xoom uses? Is it the micro USB like the droids? I hope so. Thanks.
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no it uses a regular a/c laptop type plug.. small thought teeny tiny
lanternca said:
Does anyone know what kind of charger the xoom uses? Is it the micro USB like the droids? I hope so. Thanks.
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its not unfortunately. its more like a laptop charger but much much more thin.
No. Unfortunately, it's a proprietary charger with a huge freakin' wall wart.
Watch the XOOM Unboxing vid here to see it.
The video says the USB gives a trickle charge, but that's wrong. The user manual explicitly states NOT to try to charge via USB as it may damage the device. I wonder how many morons will try that and fry their XOOMs.
Confirmed.
keith_4g (Motorola Engineer):
"The USB port is not capable of doing any sort of charging. Any power drawn from a USB charger is leakage current and not necessarily good for the device."
Does anybody know if / where extra chargers can be purchased? I want one for work and home.
schnoz said:
Does anybody know if / where extra chargers can be purchased? I want one for work and home.
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Motorola has them online. Probably amazon too.
Damn I was hoping as it'd be like most of the android phones.that way I don't have to buy another in car charger
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setite said:
no it uses a regular a/c laptop type plug.. small thought teeny tiny
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Does it slip? please don't tell me it slips out easily
parrotheadmjb said:
Does it slip? please don't tell me it slips out easily
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I won't know till tomorrow, but i'm sure ti will be fine.
Stopping USB charge
How would one prevent a USB connection from attempting to charge the Xoom? Yell at the electrons to stop?
The port just doesn't support charging, just data. The batteries draw too much to charge over USB.
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Does it slip? please don't tell me it slips out easily
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Like most barrel type connectors, it does "click" into place. I'm more worried about the connector breaking off in the receptacle; the male plug is only 1.5mm diameter.
Unfortunately charging through USB is likely to be uncommon with tablets given standard USB's 500 mA limitation. The iPad charges through the USB, but it does not charge when the device is on.
to answer the question about the charger and how it fits. Yes is does slip out of the charging port rather easily especially when using the portfolio case which for me is the biggest design flaw of the xoom. I overcome this by using the docking cradle and sitting the xoom in my lap. Works well for me.
I wonder how true is this? It claims to be a car charger with a micro USB tip.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silicone-Skin-C...304?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e61cb0e50
charger is a disappointment, but not a deal breaker. Another device another cord, just when I thought micro USB was just getting some steam. But on the bright side no orientation issues. I suspect I will get the dock and the charger will not matter.
calin75 said:
I wonder how true is this? It claims to be a car charger with a micro USB tip.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silicone-Skin-C...304?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e61cb0e50
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Its not gonna charge. That charger is designed for a phone. They're just bundling it together like they do for every device lol. Its pretty well documented the Xoom won't even trickle charge over USB.
it is a 12volt power supply. That is why it is so small not to be confused with the 5v mini USB. The Xoom needs 12 volts to charge
I'm sure that someone like iGo will come out with a tip for it. I have already e-mailed them about it. I have two tips for it for different devices that store on the cord so you don't loose them. The will be solutions for most of the issues if we are just a little patient.

Included Accessories

I've been searching Google and I surprisingly couldn't find out what accessories are included with the US version. Maybe I could've searched through all of the lame reviews, but I figured I ask you owners.
Just a charger and charging cable
RikF said:
Just a charger and charging cable
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To be clear, does this mean that a 30-pin to USB plugs into a USB wall charger?
quinman22 said:
To be clear, does this mean that a 30-pin to USB plugs into a USB wall charger?
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yes. Also some extra tips for the s pen.
afaik you wont find a pair of earphones that we have seen in the european note... unless of course you got one of those negri units

Wireless Charger

I have never seen a wireless charger. and I am planning on getting the N4, so... would any wireless charger work?
like the QI Energizer one?
ZeroHart said:
I have never seen a wireless charger. and I am planning on getting the N4, so... would any wireless charger work?
like the QI Energizer one?
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They stated ANY QI charger should work.
Does anyone know how much the wireless charger is going to cost? I don't see it in the playstore. Is it even going to be available in the playstore?
Will a Palm touchstone work with the Nexus 4? That'd be sweet because they're running ~$5.50 or so shipped on Amazon.
gtalum said:
Will a Palm touchstone work with the Nexus 4? That'd be sweet because they're running ~$5.50 or so shipped on Amazon.
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Apparently so, there are people on XDA who are stockpiling the Touchstone chargers. I mean you can't go wrong, they're $5.50!
Unlawful said:
Apparently so, there are people on XDA who are stockpiling the Touchstone chargers. I mean you can't go wrong, they're $5.50!
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Does the touchstone even use the QI charging standard? I can't find any info a about it.
JCreazy said:
Does the touchstone even use the QI charging standard? I can't find any info a about it.
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No sadly it doesn't work with my N4. Instead i bought the Maxell wireless QI charger, But the energizer or a duracell ersion should work
The Wireless Gear 5wc800 works with the N4.
Only you have to place the N4 with the usb port on the side where the power button is.
I can confirm this.
The only thing i hate about it is that i can't charge it while there is a skin on my nexus.
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/140906481606?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_730wt_1397
does 5wc800 work with a case?
Unjustable said:
The Wireless Gear 5wc800 works with the N4.
Only you have to place the N4 with the usb port on the side where the power button is.
I can confirm this.
The only thing i hate about it is that i can't charge it while there is a skin on my nexus.
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/140906481606?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_730wt_1397
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does 5wc800 work with a case?

No Charger In The Box?

Has anybody noticed that the Play store listing for the Nexus 10 only lists the tablet?
Maybe they wanted to save a few bucks and figured that we'd all have phones with a charger cable already, but it's kinda lame that we'd be paying $400+ for a tablet and we won't even be getting a charger with it. I'm going to have to buy a separate cable for it myself; I kinda want to charge both my tablet and my GNexus at the same time.
Dr_Knickers said:
Has anybody noticed that the Play store listing for the Nexus 10 only lists the tablet?
Maybe they wanted to save a few bucks and figured that we'd all have phones with a charger cable already, but it's kinda lame that we'd be paying $400+ for a tablet and we won't even be getting a charger with it. I'm going to have to buy a separate cable for it myself; I kinda want to charge both my tablet and my GNexus at the same time.
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I would hope that the listing isn't completed for the box because it's not out yet. I'm hoping that it uses a 2A charger, in which case most people don't have so they would supply it.
Despyse said:
I would hope that the listing isn't completed for the box because it's not out yet. I'm hoping that it uses a 2A charger, in which case most people don't have so they would supply it.
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It follows the policy for Amazon Kindle HD 8.9, where no charger is included but it includes the micro USB charging wire. Also, Nexus 4 includes all the accessories including charging wire and the charger.
Best regards,
Dr_Knickers said:
Has anybody noticed that the Play store listing for the Nexus 10 only lists the tablet?
Maybe they wanted to save a few bucks and figured that we'd all have phones with a charger cable already, but it's kinda lame that we'd be paying $400+ for a tablet and we won't even be getting a charger with it. I'm going to have to buy a separate cable for it myself; I kinda want to charge both my tablet and my GNexus at the same time.
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I'll be amazed if they don't supply a charger, i think it more a case of they are not listing it because of regional differences, I got a Sony Xperia S Tablet and noticed that the charging accessories changed for different countries, some would have just a socket to usb convertor, but i got like a mini laptop AC brick as we use 240v in the UK, not 120, so best to just leave it off for now.
I will be interested to see if they charge through the microUSB or via a magnetic charger as standard, and if they charge from MicroUSB, how much the magnetic charger would be
MikeBuck said:
I'll be amazed if they don't supply a charger, i think it more a case of they are not listing it because of regional differences, I got a Sony Xperia S Tablet and noticed that the charging accessories changed for different countries, some would have just a socket to usb convertor, but i got like a mini laptop AC brick as we use 240v in the UK, not 120, so best to just leave it off for now.
I will be interested to see if they charge through the microUSB or via a magnetic charger as standard, and if they charge from MicroUSB, how much the magnetic charger would be
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Yeah, thankfully you're right :victory:
I can see the charger in these pictures!
http://www.engadget.com/photos/nexus-10-review/#5408320
Dr_Knickers said:
Yeah, thankfully you're right :victory:
I can see the charger in these pictures!
http://www.engadget.com/photos/nexus-10-review/#5408320
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I was going to link that photo gallery. Looks like the same exact 2-piece AC adapter the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 uses.
MikeBuck said:
I'll be amazed if they don't supply a charger, i think it more a case of they are not listing it because of regional differences, I got a Sony Xperia S Tablet and noticed that the charging accessories changed for different countries, some would have just a socket to usb convertor, but i got like a mini laptop AC brick as we use 240v in the UK, not 120, so best to just leave it off for now.
I will be interested to see if they charge through the microUSB or via a magnetic charger as standard, and if they charge from MicroUSB, how much the magnetic charger would be
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Does the Nexus 10 support wireless charging too? That's pretty cool if so. I think about now is the cue for IKEA and the like to start producing high-end tables which automatically charge anything on top of them. Then you can truly be wireless (well, the table would have to be plugged in, but the odds are you could hide the wire from sight). Since the table is powered, they might as well give it a backlit surface, too. Now that would be a table.
Kookas said:
Does the Nexus 10 support wireless charging too? That's pretty cool if so. I think about now is the cue for IKEA and the like to start producing high-end tables which automatically charge anything on top of them. Then you can truly be wireless (well, the table would have to be plugged in, but the odds are you could hide the wire from sight). Since the table is powered, they might as well give it a backlit surface, too. Now that would be a table.
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I've not heard anything about it, and Google would be shouting about it if it did, so i'd say it doesn't unfortunately.

USB-C adapter

I have seen some comments and reviews that some USB-C cables are dangerous to use on our phones. Mainly the "Amazon Comment" from a Google Engineer who said that a particular USB-C cable could harm the device.
I am looking to buy some cheap Micro-USB to USB-C adapters for my current chargers, does anyone know if they are safe to use?
Is there a thread that has all the tested and confirmed cables, adapters and chargers? Seems this USB-C thing is more confusing than I though it would be.
I think you are better off buying a USB 2.0 Type A to Type C cable instead of a micro USB adapter. This one has been recommended:
http://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Braided-Reversible-Connector-ChromeBook/dp/B010VFFSL4/
Something like this is NOT compliant, according to the same Google engineer:
http://www.amazon.com/Adapter-TechMatte®-Convert-Connector-OnePlus/dp/B0151RKYBG/
bummer, I don't need "fast charging" all the time so I'm ok with standard charging speed for the most part. However I certainly don't want to "harm" my device with a cable or adapter that is not properly engineered.
Most if not all of the cables he recommends are around $20 for just a cable. Craziness...
I don't think you will damage the phone, but there's a risk you will damage the other side, i.e. charger or computer port. Now frying a $10 charger is not a big deal as long as you are not setting the house on fire, but frying a computer USB port is a different story ... that's what I'm really worried about.
I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
Cares said:
I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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Been steadily increasing since the engineer made his post. I understand, but on the other hand, I need a cable.
Cares said:
I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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Good thing I ordered 2 the day the article came out. I thought they would raise prices with all the free publicity they got from the article.
What about those from one +? I bought a couple when they were in Stock
Cares said:
I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.
Rattles said:
good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.
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https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030319&p_id=13009&seq=1&format=2
If i you don't need 3.0 data speeds, thats the way to go. There is a google doc put together on reddit from all of Google engineer's comments/posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3robzo/google_spreadsheet_for_usbc_cables_with_benson/
jsk23 said:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030319&p_id=13009&seq=1&format=2
If i you don't need 3.0 data speeds, thats the way to go. There is a google doc put together on reddit from all of Google engineer's comments/posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3robzo/google_spreadsheet_for_usbc_cables_with_benson/
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Based on the photos, it seems identical to the cable Google sells. Wouldn't be surprised if they both came from the same place.
My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?
Rattles said:
good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.
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wvcadle said:
My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?
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I leave my stock charger in the living, but I want an adapter for overnight use to plug it in to my 2.4v Nexus 7 charger that stays in my bedroom.
jsk23 said:
I leave my stock charger in the living, but I want an adapter for overnight use to plug it in to my 2.4v Nexus 7 charger that stays in my bedroom.
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The 6p comes with 2 cables already... One usb-c>usb-c and one usb-c>usb-a... So use the usbc/c cable for home and the usbc/a cable for travel.
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wvcadle said:
My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?
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Work, car, etc. I don't want to remember to take the charger/cable with me to work or in the car, I just want to leave them there. And the short cable that comes with the 6P is well ... too short. If you have a desktop computer sitting on the floor or want to charge from the wall or the car, it's just not good enough.
Fair enough!
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The 6p comes with 2 cables already... One usb-c>usb-c and one usb-c>usb-a... So use the usbc/c cable for home and the usbc/a cable for travel.
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This has nothing to do with travel. and the c-a cable it comes with is too damn short to use for much beyond data transfer. Unless the USB a charger is literally plugged in right next to where the phone is going to sit.
I'm trying to figure out how this new charging thing works as far as the required cable/charger.
I bought the iOrange-E cable from Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Braided-Reversible-Connector-ChromeBook/dp/B010VFFSL4/
I have a charger from my old Galaxy S4 that is 5V-1A. When I plug the iOrange in that charger and to my phone, it will say "Charging" but will not steadily charge. What I mean by that is that it'll change states to charging, then it'll stop charging, over and over again.
Another charger I have is 5 V - 2.1 A. With the iOrange cable, this works fine. It will say "Charging."
I have an Anker car charger. This is the one I have: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FYQKMRG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I'm not sure what the V/A is on that but with the included USB C -- USB A cable that was shipped with the Nexus 6P, it will charge.
I don't have the USB specs but does anyone know what the minimum is for simply "Charging"? How about "Charging Rapidly?"
I'm assuming my 5V - 1 A charger is too low since it doesn't seem to charge the 6P properly.
I saw the same thing with an HTC 1.5A charger. It charges for a few seconds and then it stops. Not sure what's going on, you'd think that it could at least pull the 500mA or 900mA per the USB spec. Another Anker charger that I have works.
I have this adapter Delmkin
It passes compatibility test using this app CheckR when hooked up with a tronsmart micro-USB cable.
Somebody mentioned that we have all what is needed inside the box and that's true and all but thing is most people don't want to carry their cables/chargers with them wherever they go. I have at least two charger with cables in each room of the house. One in each car and one at work. Makes it convenient since micro-USB cables/chargers are so cheap. Now with USB-C its a different story. One these cables are not cheap at all and now we are learning most of them aren't even complaint with the specs. So it helps to have a tiny adapter to be able to use all the cable I already own with Nexus 6P.

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