A question before buying the Nexus 7 - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey.
Im interested in buying the Nexus 7 or 10, but probably the 7. I already have a SSG3 and have a doubt about the Nexus 7, since it would be my first Android tablet.
I know there are not many optimized apps for tablets, but do all apps work at least on android tablets? Will I be able to install apps that are for android phones? On the ipad, for example, I can install any app, even if its only optimized for the iphone. They show in a little box, but thats ok if at least they work. I dont know how android apps work for tablets. For example, a few apps I want to install are: Androzip, tTorrent, emulators (N64droid, GBA, etc), Mx Player, DS file, etc. Do these apps work on the Nexus 7 and will they work on the 10?
I dont care if they look bad on a tablet or if they look stretched out. On the SGS3 there are some apps i cant install due to not being optimized for the phone or something. How does this work on a tablet? Am I only allowed to install the apps that have been optimized for tablet mode or any app just like on a phone?
Thanks.

Yes, Android apps all automagically scale to the size of your screen, so you will be able to download phone apps that are not tablet optimized.
However, the Play Store has filters the app developer can use to limit what devices can download their app. For example, if a developer specifies that their app requires a back camera, it won't appear for us on Google Play. So far the only app that I wanted that I haven't been able to download is the Amazon Store App, but that can easily be sideloaded.

So the only difference is that they would look stretched out, right? Or do some apps optimized only for phones look smaller while showing black bars around it like on the ipad?
Do ALL apps stretch out always?

all apps are automatically stretched out to fit the screen size.you will not get that ratio adjustment button like on the iPad to show a small app within a large screen.
but you will come across device and hardware restrictions. where this is determined by the developer/company of the app itself.
the most recent app i can think of i wanted to download on my Nexus 7 but couldn't was the Samsung TecTile app. i wanted to be able to scan the Samsung NFC tags i have with my tablet. but can't cause Samsung is not allowing the Nexus 7 to download this app.

Sensamic said:
So the only difference is that they would look stretched out, right? Or do some apps optimized only for phones look smaller while showing black bars around it like on the ipad?
Do ALL apps stretch out always?
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Not always. But if the developer coded their app well, it will take advantage of Android ability to automatically scale apps. I would guess around 99% of apps behave this way.
One bad example would be Wikiinvest HD. They coded their app crappy and have it hardwired for 10 inch tablets only, so part of the ui is cut off. But as I said, things like this are incredibly rare.

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One bad example would be Wikiinvest HD. They coded their app crappy and have it hardwired for 10 inch tablets only, so part of the ui is cut off. But as I said, things like this are incredibly rare.
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Agree 100%. A have like 50% of apps I have on my phone (DHD) also on Nexus and they all work. Games might be a different thing, but apps mostly work.

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Does Honeycomb have more apps than iPad?

It's been speculated that Android has more apps that actually work on Honeycomb tablets than does iOS on the iPad. This links talks about the growth of the Android Marketplace:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/study_android_surpass_ios_app_count_soon
Does anyone know if this is true considering most iPhone apps will not run properly on the iPad, i.e.does not fill the screen?
There are bazillions of I pad specific apps so I don't know what to tell you.
I think one of the main things that constantly gets lost is the whole quantity vs quality discussion. Sure iOS has a ton of apps, but how many of them are actually unique and not serving the same purpose as another app out there?
When it comes down to it Android, and tablets in particular, aren't far off from having the same core apps that iOS has available to it. If anything they are more functional apps since Android makes a lot more available to devs.
I miss more iOS apps on my Xoom then Android app on my iOS devices. I also think the iOS apps has a bit higher quality.
They look and "feel" better. But none of them has widgets.
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streetmapp said:
I think one of the main things that constantly gets lost is the whole quantity vs quality discussion. Sure iOS has a ton of apps, but how many of them are actually unique and not serving the same purpose as another app out there?
When it comes down to it Android, and tablets in particular, aren't far off from having the same core apps that iOS has available to it. If anything they are more functional apps since Android makes a lot more available to devs.
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True, but to play devil's advocate, you could also say that the pseudo-arbitrary selection process inherent to Apple's App Store limits useless apps a little bit. (Yes, I know there are thousands of 'fart apps' on their store as well.)
In the end, I think that not having the duplicate functionality clause helps the Android Market have a few more 'gems' than would be possible on the iOS App Store. Things like Tasker, Swype, and true replacement browsers (not using stock webkit engine--e.g. Firefox and Opera Mobile on Android) etc would not be allowed on the iOS App Store. However, due to not having the arbitration, we suffer from a (slightly to somewhat) less cohesive overall user experience and (sometimes) lower polish inside of applications.
Personally, I prefer the power and 'openness' that Android's philosophy yields. Many others, however prefer the somewhat-higher level of safety and coherence that Apple's approach yields.
Just because they 'work' on Honeycomb doesn't mean they're any good for a tablet... There are only a few apps I run that aren't tablet specific yet actually take advantage of the space because it's hard to screw that up... Trillian and TweetDeck come to mind immediately.
Elysian893 said:
Just because they 'work' on Honeycomb doesn't mean they're any good for a tablet... There are only a few apps I run that aren't tablet specific yet actually take advantage of the space because it's hard to screw that up... Trillian and TweetDeck come to mind immediately.
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Beat me to it. And I think you're absolutely spot on. I've found that 95% of my favorite Android phone apps run on my Xoom, but only 5% (or less) of those actually work the way that I would expect them to.
Remember, just because they do work, doesn't mean you care to use them.
I use 10 - 20 apps meant for Android that are not formatted for Honeycomb but provide the basic function. Good example would be Verizon Fios DVR app, only runs in portrait but does the job!
I think it's simply not true to say an app has to be formatted for HC to be useful.
Coming from an iPad to the Xoom, there's a small but significant group of apps that aren't present that I miss.
Truth is for me, most of the apps on my iPad were games (can live without) or things that I might on occasion run but weren't day to day needed.
Important ones are news reader (newer is ok, pulse is ok too) twitter client, remote desktop app.
Everything else I can live without if I have to, but there ARE definitely not more android tablet apps than iPad apps. Taking out the "it'll run on a tablet" aspect, just look in the market, 64 tablet apps. that's it.There's far more than that in the iTunes store that are iPad only or dual binary.
The discussion was including "It'll run apps" and by the way the 64 apps are only "Featured Apps".
I don't know if we can really tell how many apps are tablet specific/redesigned.
i think the next Honeycomb update should include an emulator for apps made to run on lower versions of android. Even if the graphic quality is ****e we should have the option.
jgrizz said:
i think the next Honeycomb update should include an emulator for apps made to run on lower versions of android. Even if the graphic quality is ****e we should have the option.
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We don't need this. This would be a terrible user experience.
The SDK already allows developers the option to make their app scale well to multiple different resolutions and devices. Nearly all developers have yet to implement this resolution scaling, therefore the apps don't scale well to the Xoom.
jwilker said:
Coming from an iPad to the Xoom, there's a small but significant group of apps that aren't present that I miss.
Truth is for me, most of the apps on my iPad were games (can live without) or things that I might on occasion run but weren't day to day needed.
Important ones are news reader (newer is ok, pulse is ok too) twitter client, remote desktop app.
Everything else I can live without if I have to, but there ARE definitely not more android tablet apps than iPad apps. Taking out the "it'll run on a tablet" aspect, just look in the market, 64 tablet apps. that's it.There's far more than that in the iTunes store that are iPad only or dual binary.
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Those featured apps are deceptive. There are lots of Honeycomb apps out there that just don't get highlighted.
jwilker said:
Coming from an iPad to the Xoom, there's a small but significant group of apps that aren't present that I miss.
Truth is for me, most of the apps on my iPad were games (can live without) or things that I might on occasion run but weren't day to day needed.
Important ones are news reader (newer is ok, pulse is ok too) twitter client, remote desktop app.
Everything else I can live without if I have to, but there ARE definitely not more android tablet apps than iPad apps. Taking out the "it'll run on a tablet" aspect, just look in the market, 64 tablet apps. that's it.There's far more than that in the iTunes store that are iPad only or dual binary.
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By my counting, I have more than 64 apps installed that run...like 76 actually...not including pre installed stuff/OS integrated...
Just because they aren't "Featured Tablet" doesn't mean they won't run
iPad's apps, for the most part, are more polished than Xoom's tablet based apps. But they've had a year head start. More apps for the iPad? More apps specifcally for iOS tablet than for Android tablets? At this point, probably.
One good thing about the xoom, though, is even apps that weren't made specifically for a tablet still look good, for the most part, on the xoom. Where most iOS apps made for iPhone look stupid at 2x size on the iPad.
jwilker said:
Coming from an iPad to the Xoom, there's a small but significant group of apps that aren't present that I miss.
Truth is for me, most of the apps on my iPad were games (can live without) or things that I might on occasion run but weren't day to day needed.
Important ones are news reader (newer is ok, pulse is ok too) twitter client, remote desktop app.
Everything else I can live without if I have to, but there ARE definitely not more android tablet apps than iPad apps. Taking out the "it'll run on a tablet" aspect, just look in the market, 64 tablet apps. that's it.There's far more than that in the iTunes store that are iPad only or dual binary.
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Those 64 apps are apps that Google has hand-picked. There's more than that.
I think the market should add a tablet app filtering option to find the ones that aren't blessed by Google.
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Important ones are news reader (newer is ok, pulse is ok too) twitter client, remote desktop app.
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The xtralogic rdp client is terrific. A bit expensive, but terrific.
jwilker said:
Coming from an iPad to the Xoom, there's a small but significant group of apps that aren't present that I miss.
Truth is for me, most of the apps on my iPad were games (can live without) or things that I might on occasion run but weren't day to day needed.
Important ones are news reader (newer is ok, pulse is ok too) twitter client, remote desktop app.
Everything else I can live without if I have to, but there ARE definitely not more android tablet apps than iPad apps. Taking out the "it'll run on a tablet" aspect, just look in the market, 64 tablet apps. that's it.There's far more than that in the iTunes store that are iPad only or dual binary.
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Check out team viewer, it's perfect on the xoom and it is completely free. Go to teamviewer.com and get the PC or Mac program and the android program, then game on.
Stop teh FlipFlop
rjoudrey said:
Does anyone know if this is true considering most iPhone apps will not run properly on the iPad, i.e.does not fill the screen?
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A lot of you keep flip flopping on what you are measuring here. The op specifically lists the quote above as an example of only counting tablet specific apps. measuring by that standard, there are way more iPad only apps than Honeycomb tablet apps. For those of you who say just because it doesn't say it's not made for a tablet doesn't mean it doesn't work, I agree. By that measurement, all iOS apps work on the iPad, and they work exactly as expected because they are simply pixel doubled (Although as the op pointed out they don't completely fill the screen 100% when they are scaled).
Another point that has been raised is a qualitative measure of the apps in either store. Apple's App Store is a pretty clear winner here as well. This stems from two issues. First, the curated store versus free-for-all store. Second, device fragmentation. The later is more of a problem for the development side and thus requires dev's spend less time on "fit & finish" and more time tweaking their apps for the thousands of hardware variations. This is an issue that most dev's view as a problem for the android market (See link below). This problem also keeps some prominent dev's away from android all together (such as EPIC games). Looking at several apps that are available on both platforms, iOS apps not only look better, but in many cases some functionality has been gimped on the android app. There was a writeup about this recently to which I can't find but I was able to locate one of the screen capture comparisons of FaceBook from that article.
(due to forum rules I can't make these active links yet )
FaceBook Screen Shot:
wpuploads.appadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/facebook.png
Dev Survey:
\/\/w\/\/.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/04/poll-android-fragmentation-issues.php
Don't get me wrong, I like several features about android, but when it comes to the Android Market versus App Store, iOS takes the cake.. or in this case the dough $$$. I have more android devices than I do iOS devices, However I have only purchased one app from the android market. I have an iPhone 4, iPhone 3Gs, iPad 2 (WiFi), Motorola Atrix (still sad about locked bootloader), HTC Inspire, Sony Xperia X10, HTC Aria (CM6), Samsung Captivate, and a Nexus.
Summary, In small portable devices like Smartphones and Tablets, Hardware and software working in concert is of greater importance than the PC of yester-year. That being said, for Android's license model to work like Microsoft's windows license model has for PC's, Google needs to have established hardware specification / form factor windows that can be reliably tested against. Secondly, they need to separate the core OS and the UI framework so they can allow vendors to customize their UI inline with the framework, which would allow Google to release an update to the core OS without the need to wait for the vendors to customize the core OS with their UI. Users could then update to the most current OS, and vendors can customize and tweak their UI to add new features of the new OS and release an updated UI when it's ready. Right now, the more consistent approach to iOS & Apple hardware is yielding better apps that are more profitable for dev's.
P.S. sorry about the run-on sentences
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I think the market should add a tablet app filtering option to find the ones that aren't blessed by Google.
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Agree completely. True there's (probably) more than those 64, not sure how to find them. But finding iPad only in iTunes is easy enough, especially from the device itself.
I think no matter how it's sliced, there's less for the xoom or tablets in general than there is for iPad.
I really hope that trend changes, I suspect it won't until honeycomb is released to the public tho

How do the apps run on the N7?

I'm about to buy the tablet myself in a few days but everywhere and anywhere everyone and anyone says that Android doesn't have nearly as many tablet-optimised apps as the iPad. Do the apps run fine or not? I mean do they look good and is it easy to use them or not? Because for the iPad I know there's a separate category so there'll be apps for that.
So could someone confirm if the apps on this tablet run fine or not?
Thanks
They run crappy.
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Ok just my experience, on android many more apps are tablet optimized.
When I was using an ipad it seemed they were all small or had the option to 2x it making it blurry and horrid.
I guess though the Google play store just doesn't show you apps it they're not compatible though, which is fine because for an app that isn't compatible with tabs there are 10 others that are.
And poster above.. I have no words
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My friend there are more apps in the play Store that you could ever use or even fit into the N7. With all the customizations you can make from OCing to roms the sky is the limit concerning the tablet. All the options that android offers will always keep apple in the rear view mirror.
Yes the apps are easy to access, start and run quickly.
Concerning apps and compatibility always use a browser to see all the apps and look at the comments to see if there are any made by N7 owners. Since I have modified the dpi on mine most apps come up as not available and that is when I check the comments. If it's something I want to buy I'll switch my dpi back to stock. It's a pain but I'm never giving up true tablet ui.
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In my exp i've had by means of trade through best buy almost all of the most recent tabs. in order generic android tab eclair 1, archos 101, ipad, ipad 2, xoom acer a500, playbook, lenovo k1, hp touchpad, playbook again, xoom again, achos 80 g9, acer 501, and nexus 7. Android is my favorite. I also like web os and bb os. ios has better game selection hands down. Android has better free apps hands down bb web had no apps. so all depends on what you want it for
Well with all the quad-core machines coming out these days I'm quite sure there'll be loads of great games for Android too. The third post is interesting. So the apps don't seem like they're just multiplied in size. That's good to know. As long as they look natural I'm happy because the Appstore with all it's apps is horrible [my sister got an iPhone 4S the other day and I kept looking for apps and I wasn't THAT impressed. In fact the Play Store is MUCH better.]
I'm going with the Nexus and I'm sure I'll be a happy customer just like 95% of people who bought the thing. [the 5% are the people who're experiencing problems but even they were happy with their device.]
Thanks for the feedback! Appreciate it very much

[Q] How many apps

How many apps will support this resolution
Most of Google's apps.
I also saw that Gameloft and EA will be optimizing their apps.
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Most of Google's apps.
I also saw that Gameloft and EA will be optimizing their apps.
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Thanks for the info. About how long do you think it will take for them to optimize. Do you also think it will get extended graphics on games like tegra 3 games
Personally, I'm guessing almost none... Google+ on even the nexus 7 has incredibly pixelated pics unless you drill all the way into the pic itself. It's almost entirely the reason that I'm not all that excited about the Nex 10. That, and I don't see it as a full laptop replacement yet (Which, I would expect out of a $500 device, especially with no 3g/hspa).
The bad thing is that it doesn't have tablet ui
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How many apps will support this resolution
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All Holo apps will support it, just like they support 300+ PPI phones except this time it's a tablet layout. That means all of Google's apps will support it, plus other apps like Evernote, AnkiDroid Beta (great app BTW), GTasks, Tablet Talk, tTorrent etc. Also, since it's a Nexus device there should be a lot more focus on it, unlike the plethora of ignored 1080p tabs out today. Games that aren't updated will just upscale and you won't notice a thing until they update the game.
The app 'Photoshop Touch' doesn't support high DPI at the moment, and the UI becomes smaller with higher resolutions because it was designed for 720p. PS Touch is still being maintained, though, so I think it should get an update.
That's all I know, though.

Lack of app's,so still getting nexus 10?

Hey there guys
The nexus 10 reviews are finally out.
What do all review's negative have in common? No apps...
So this is worrying me a lot
Yes gameloft is making nexus 10 games so, will i get more nexus 10 apps in future? should i get this tablet?
Well the new playstore updates supports the xxhdp display solo yeah all the apps work there over 700000 apps
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I'm not worried about the app selection, The apps that i uses are made by big companies and I am sure they will be updated quickly. Once a group of devs gets a hand on a tablet or two thing will fly. They will purchase them the same time that we do. I don't have a ton of apps on my android devices, just a mix of some for work and play. A list other than Google products that I would put on my tablet, are made by Rovio, Slacker, Adobe, Evernote, XDA!, and a few website apps. The only real app I am concerned about would be apps for my local news and weather stations. If i was a tablet gamer I might be a bit concerned at first, but for me If I can surf the web at high speeds, and have music and movies playing for entertainment on long road trips with battery life to spare I am happy. This hardware is new and cutting edge, but will be a new standard for other manufactures to compete with, so more apps will be out there in time.
I'm still getting the nexus 10
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Hey there guys
The nexus 10 reviews are finally out.
What do all review's negative have in common? No apps...
So this is worrying me a lot
Yes gameloft is making nexus 10 games so, will i get more nexus 10 apps in future? should i get this tablet?
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It's not no apps.only some apps which have low graphics won't work well.... for the time being
No problem for me. My main usage is watching videos and reading comics. Also I believe app developper will provide tablet optimized nice apps for N10 and N7.
I'm not so worried about App selection as I am usability. I recently bought the Transformer Prime TF700t, it's a nice tablet with monster specs and was the only decently designed 1080p android tablet, however Windows 8 is now out (I' not referring to RT, not really interested in the RT version because of lack of apps).
There are 3 major choices you should consider when looking at tablets this holiday:
1: Nexus 10
2: iPad 4
3: Windows 8 PRO
App selection is obviously the best on the new iPad, 2nd going to android and lastly going to Windows, but Windows 8 PRO DOES run all of the older windows 7 apps. SO if you want to run ANYTHING on your tablet (almost anything you use as a windows user), for power users that's a definite win.
So that's why I'm really really considering windows 8. As I type this I'm realizing more and more that windows 8 still won't have a lot of tablet-optimized apps making most of the tablet experience kind of a fail, and only using the windows mode would really be useful (for me), I'm talking myself into the Nexus 10 becau 2560X1600 SOUNDS AMAZING!:laugh:
Best not to compare usability between TF700 and the N10. Aside from the poor app selection being the same, this is a different beast. Also, the way Holo works, I think with Android phones leading the front we ought to see apps that at the very least don't look crap on the tablet.
I'm not worried about the app situation. As others have said in different threads, Android's scalability really changes things so it isn't the same issue that it was on the Mac when they had only a few tablet apps. Second, now with the N7 and N10 I expect we'll see a lot more apps, particularly the good ones, designed with these tablets in mind.
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I'm a developer, I'm getting a Nexus 10. That has to be good for everyone else, I'm sure other devs will be doing the same.
N10 will be a hit. Developers will pump out apps. There is a lot of cash to be made if this becomes the industry standard.
The market really dictates if apps are made for Android or not. When tablets first came out it was only iPad, therefore, all tablet apps were made for iPad. As Android tablets got more accepted and are now a major presence in the tablet world, market demand dictates that if you want your app to be widely used, you will make it tablet compatible for iOS and Android. What is really difficult for developers is the huge fragmentation in Android both phones and tablets. If you make an app for iPad, you only have to make it for the 7 and 10, both running the same OS. If you want to make an app for Android you have to make it for N number of tables made by N number of manufactures, many of which are running different OS versions.
There are already many great tablet enabled apps for Android tablets, over the last 6 months I have actually seen developers come out with tablet updates for their apps. Don't worry, if you buy an N10, you won't have issues getting use out of it.
Of curse you should get the Nexus 10!! The apps gonna come out eventually don't worrie.
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I'm a developer, I'm getting a Nexus 10. That has to be good for everyone else, I'm sure other devs will be doing the same.
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Didn't some devs get an N4 and N10 as a gift from Google when it was announced, too?
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Multi-window?

10 inch is great for multi-window multitasking especially considering the lack of tablet optimized Android apps. But is it available on the Nexus 10 out of box considering Samsung's own Note 10.1 does split-screen, if not can it be upgraded with no root or in any other way?
Could be a dealbreaker. The 2,56k Nexus 10 is perfect for multitasking and lacking such awesomeness would be disappointing.
Something like Galaxy Note? It would be great but no mention of it in the reviews.
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It's unlikely. The thing with nexus devices is that you need to forget who manufactured it.
Unless the standard android build tree implements a multi windows feature, no nexus device will have it.
It's a trade off, because devices like my S3 and the Note etc come with fantastic Samsung features like the notes app, multi window, smart stay, additional code licences and such, but you sacrifice update frequency.
The point here is that this device gets pure, unadulterated, Android, and all the features (or lack thereof) that comes with it.
Either way, ill be buying one, and waiting for ParanoidAndroid to come along so I can get rid of the crappy Phablet UI, which I personally think is a mistake on a device like this.
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That's too bad. The crowd clearly wants multitasking and the 10" screen and high resolution is fitting for split screen, a big hit and miss by Google. Or maybe Samsung wants to keep it in house? Disappointing either way, splitting the screen into 4:3 for Chrome and 1:3 for Twitter/chat/music/calculator/notepad etc. would give enough pixels for both. To not have that option on most tablets is kinda shocking. What else do you wish to use the big screen for if not comfort?
I'm on GB on my phone. Is there a simple way to switch between apps on JB?
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That's too bad. The crowd clearly wants multitasking and the 10" screen and high resolution is fitting for split screen, a big hit and miss by Google. Or maybe Samsung wants to keep it in house? Disappointing either way, splitting the screen into 4:3 for Chrome and 1:3 for Twitter/chat/music/calculator/notepad etc. would give enough pixels for both. To not have that option on most tablets is kinda shocking. What else do you wish to use the big screen for if not comfort?
I'm on GB on my phone. Is there a simple way to switch between apps on JB?
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Yeh, the problem, is that Samsung's multi-window feature is just that, Samsung's. They paid and spent the time to develop it in house, it's their own functionality, it cost them time and effort and is a selling point for their own devices such as the Galaxy Note 2.
As for JB, there is the "recent" menu, which is usually surfaced as an on screen button on some devices, or a press and hold of home on others, for switching apps. It's really no different to that of GB, except that it gives thumbnails of the apps instead of just icons.
Samsung cheated their way to multi-screen view... only one app is in the foreground, so it's not really multi-tasking. They did a serious hack job of the android os in order to make it happen. If you want it done right, wait for Google to do it.
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I want multiview on GSIII
maybe it would be possible to run an app at qhd resolution or so as a widget on your home screen. you could put 2 or 3 on the 10 inch screen and just use them all simultaneously. anyone have any idea?
also, i found this on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOqBAfMwCAc
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Yeh, the problem, is that Samsung's multi-window feature is just that, Samsung's. They paid and spent the time to develop it in house, it's their own functionality, it cost them time and effort and is a selling point for their own devices such as the Galaxy Note 2.
As for JB, there is the "recent" menu, which is usually surfaced as an on screen button on some devices, or a press and hold of home on others, for switching apps. It's really no different to that of GB, except that it gives thumbnails of the apps instead of just icons.
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Yeah, but this is a Samsung tab, and as much as it runs "pure Android", they could've easily throw multi-view in and sell it with that feature, it's pretty evident THIS is the device to challenge the iPad, not the Note 10.1.
It also doesn't take a genius at Google to develop split-screen tasking, don't think it requires too many resources either. HW's ready, SW's ready, we are ready. Where's split screen multitasking on the 10" tablets?
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Yeah, but this is a Samsung tab, and as much as it runs "pure Android", they could've easily throw multi-view in and sell it with that feature, it's pretty evident THIS is the device to challenge the iPad, not the Note 10.1.
It also doesn't take a genius at Google to develop split-screen tasking, don't think it requires too many resources either. HW's ready, SW's ready, we are ready. Where's split screen multitasking on the 10" tablets?
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I will repeat, Samsung hacked up the os...
Granted, there's no excuse for Google not being able to implement it if Samsung could
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If not multi-window... what apps have big tab widgets to split the screen that way?
Mobo player let's you multi screen, when watching a video you can hit the home button and it will bring you to the desktop but have the video playing in a resizeable box... Was actually really nice ,made me want it on all the apps :'(
Sadly, I don't think Google wants multi window functionality in Android. In general, they seem fine with Android for tablets just being a dumb device for media consumption. I think the tablet UI change is an example of Google dumbing down the UI by wasting screen real estate, etc.
Additionally, A developer from Google threatened CyanogenMod when they showed interest in using and improving a 3rd party's implementation of multi window for ICS. Google is worried that supporting multi window will make it harder on app developers because there would be even more size and layout variations that developers would need to test and support.
I personally think it is very important for Google to support this. Windows 8 tablets already have support for multi window.
Back to my original point, a 7" fits Google's current direction of being mostly a dumb device for media consumption. However, 10" tablets needs to be something more than that to justify the price and lack of portability compared to a 7" tablet.
Damn, the new multi-view looks better than ever!
BoneXDA said:
Damn, the new multi-view looks better than ever!
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Now thats som good stuff
alias_neo said:
It's unlikely. The thing with nexus devices is that you need to forget who manufactured it.
Unless the standard android build tree implements a multi windows feature, no nexus device will have it.
It's a trade off, because devices like my S3 and the Note etc come with fantastic Samsung features like the notes app, multi window, smart stay, additional code licences and such, but you sacrifice update frequency.
The point here is that this device gets pure, unadulterated, Android, and all the features (or lack thereof) that comes with it.
Either way, ill be buying one, and waiting for ParanoidAndroid to come along so I can get rid of the crappy Phablet UI, which I personally think is a mistake on a device like this.
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While I agree i dont like the UI on a nexus 7. For example isnt the native apps on a n7 single pane, like gmail on a phone?
On the nexus 10, gmail, talk, email, and the like are all 2 pane applications. My only complaint about the UI on the N10 is that the home back and multitask buttons allways stay in the middle of the screen. i think they should be to one side or the other for easier access with your thumb.
Also i would love to have multi window support on my n10 which is how i came opon this thread, but i will wait for google to implement it. while the different versions of android (touchwiz motoblur etc.) have come a long way none of them are as smooth or operate as clean as stock android. When and if google creates multi window support it will work flawlessly.
This is standard on the note 2 now right?
SayWhat10 said:
This is standard on the note 2 now right?
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I have the att note 2 and I can watch a movie or video in a window while texting or whatever. You can move the video around on the screen too. Had it on my international i9300 too.
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It´s open source now. Why no one implement this in his rom for n10 ?
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