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Hello, guys
I want to know what your views are on trading my iphone 4 16gb for an nexus one? Please don't get carried away with "it's an apple device". so, anyway i want to know your opinion on this.

It depends on what are you looking for in a phone - and then you need to compare, what each device does and how it does - and then decide if it's a good trade.

dollar for dollar i would see this as a poor trade...

What you should do is sell the iphone 4 for cash, then used that cash to buy nexus one + leftover cash.

Both phones can be had for around the same price. Both are really good phones. I wouldn't trade my Nexus for an iPhone 4 for nothing. The Nexus is a rare phone that is completely customizable and personable. I could never find myself stuck with one homescreen layout.
Would I suggest you sell your iPhone 4 for a nexus? Probably not. It could be a good investment as Android Gingerbread is due out shortly and the Nexus might pull in some big dough for having it.
I would suggest that if you want to make the switch to Android (which you should) I would hold off until next year when some of the newer dual-core chips come out.
If you can't wait to get rid of the iPhone 4 (I don't blame you) and you want something now, the Nexus One is a great candidate although good luck finding a AT&T version. The MyTouch HD, G2, EVO, DroidX, and Galaxy S are all good phones. Samsung and Motorola are software update Nazi's. The HTC variants usually have good community base for custom roms and hacks. The G2 runs stock Android which is nice, similar to the Nexus One.
The Nexus One gets its updates directly from Google which is why it is so popular. The others are updated via the Carriers/Manufactures.

htc fan89 said:
Hello, guys
I want to know what your views are on trading my iphone 4 16gb for an nexus one? Please don't get carried away with "it's an apple device". so, anyway i want to know your opinion on this.
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don't
trade it with a better phone, like HTC desire HD, Desire Z, Galaxy S ......

Where did he say he was doing a straight swap? He didnt actually mention prices?
Anyway, as said, it depends what you want to do with it, and which OS you prefer. The iphone is undoubtedly more polished, more stable, has a better battery life and higher resale value, and a greater range of games and apps. The camera is slightly better and the screen is noticeably better. As an overall ownership experience, I'd say for "most people" the iphone is clearly better. For a techie like most of the folks on this site, its not so clear cut. The N1, thanks to android is a lot more open and flexible, and certainly seems like its more powerful at times; there is nothing that can't be changed - the iphone is a lot more restricted.
So what do you want out of a phone? Do you want a good device that works nigh perfectly all of the time or are you willing to settle for a few niggles for a device that can be customised to a much greater degree?
Personally, I've got to say, if someone came along and offered to swap me an iPhone 4 for my Nexus One, I'd have to say that I personally would take it. However, in the real world, nobody is going to do that - the best I could hope for would be to hand over £200 and my Nexus One for an iphone 4, and with that in mind, the choice is simple - I'd keep the N1. For me, the IP4 is a better phone overall, but the N1 is easily 90%+ the phone the IP4 is, and for that reason given that I'd have to hand over a large wedge of cash to swap, the choice is reasonably simple. That said, I can't say I haven't sometimes been tempted to go back to an iphone.

All the new phones announced yet I still want the Nexus S.

After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?

Alopez_45 said:
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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I watched all of CES and I've been following MWC a bit more loosely but not a single one of them makes me want to give up my Nexus S. If you could keep my SNS I'd love to have an HTC Pyramid on top of it but just for poops and giggles. The SNS is the best phone I've owned and I love it.

I feel the same way as you do, but you can also run stock on a Galaxy S II or Motorola Atrix, with Custom ROMs. Of course, it won't be the same as with the Nexus S.
I just like the Nexus s as a whole. What I mean to say with that is that stock Android and updates from Google isn't the only thing I like about the Nexus.

I feel the same. I haven't seen anything that I would want instead of my Nexus S. Vanilla Android beats all

I feel the same..

while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide

None of these new phones are appealing to me at all.
I'll only buy into the Nexus brand from now on. This phone has been everything I've ever wanted from an Android device.

AllGamer said:
while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide
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and super amoled+. I'm looking forward to a 4" variant, if they make one.

Love my Nexus S. The hardware, the fact that is supported straight from Google, everything about it.
I'm not saying i'm not curious about the new dual core devices, but think about that for a minute: our single core phones go through a day - day and half with a 1540mA battery. Imagine the talk/standby time of those new phones with only 1650 and 1900 mA batteries. When sth just comes out, usually needs work. Like Win7, dual core phones, the android when it ws first launched.
So, i think i'm gonna wait a while before trying a new device.
Google Nexus S rules...

For the most part, I agree. There's nothing so appealing to make me want to ditch my current Nexus S, however, understand what "stock Android" means.
Yes, you get the latest Google updates, and you get the unhampered Android experience, but just be aware that Android is riddled with glitches ranging from minor annoyances to some pretty major issues. (Just to name a few off my head: keyboard issues, home screen icon and swiping issues, gallery issues, rebooting issues, SMS and MMS issues...)
As long as you understand that being on the Nexus line means you're essentially the "beta tester" for Google's Android iterations, then you shouldn't be disappointed. I'm just sharing my personal experience. I found many things critical about the Android experience on previous phones, but always had OEM skins to blame. On the NS, that excuse is invalid.

I too am fairly disappointed with all of the new phones (including the NS to an extent).
Atrix = Plastic, and has Moto's locked down bootloader (major negative, and if it wasn't so locked down, I may have made an exception for its cheaper build quality).
Inspire 4G = Nothing too impressive, still has HTCs horrible mic and speaker quality and probably a ****ty digitizer/touch screen.
HTCs entire new lineup: No dual core? No gingerbread for the Incredible? Minimal upgrades at best.
SGSII = Plastic.
Nexus S = Plastic.
I may be old fashioned, but can anyone other than HTC make a $600+ Android phone that isn't plastic? Or what? Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
Until then, the iPhone still has an edge over Android with their polished build quality. I'm probably going to get attacked with fanboi'ism (even though I've owned 3 Android devices in the last 2 years), but whatever... it's true... There always seems to be trade offs with Android devices, whether it's build, or OS fragmentation - it drives me crazy.
I'm going to be picking up an Android fun to bum around with, and it's most likely going to be the Nexus S when and if it arrives to Rogers, just because it's the next iteration of the Nexus One. I'll put up with the cheap build quality (I'll try really hard not to drop it) and call it a day.

Ill stay with my Nexy Sexy

DigitaL BlisS said:
Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
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I 100% completely agree in that point
why it is so hard for all the manufacture to put all the best stuff together and make a perfect phone?
seems like every manufacture only specializes in 1 thing, but not the rest of the phone.
personally i wanted a phone for work and fun, so the Nexus S fit the profile, just a bit disappointing in the reception area, and speaker, it serves better as a PDA than a phone
for my girl i got her a Moto because it's radio and speaker perfect, it will always get a signal, it was designed as a phone, and it works as a phone

I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).

I'm sold on the idea of a google backed phone. Now I just need to save up for one of these and find a way out of my contract with sprint. I am just tired of the run around with updates between carrier/mfg. I think I am over the need for having the latest and greatest and can settle down with one device for a while until the newest nexus comes around. A small trade off in my opinion as I will still have the latest OS and support from great devs and plenty of time to save for the next one. Last plus for me is being able to get on a month to month service and no more contracts. I'm on my way over guys, just saving up some cash then its on ;-)
sent by an Epic4g through the cosmos

Have you seen the LG Optimus 2X reviews? Force closes and crashes left and right... talk about half baked.
DarkAgent said:
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).
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So far none of these new phones make me want to give up my NS either.
Atrix - locked bootloader
SGS2 - too big, not a fan of the design - I want a search button!
LG 2x - its an LG lol
I may change my mind once I get to play with these phones

Alopez_45 said:
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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I have a Nexus S and it's awesome. Stock Android is the only way to go.

I'm not gonna lie. I'm still thinking of getting one, even with all the phones on the horizon. My upgrade from T-Mobile isn't until July. Tax return is burning a hole in my pocket... If only they had a car dock like the Nexus One...

DarkAgent said:
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
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Would it be dumb to get a dual core phone with QUAD CORE phones right around the corner?
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time to change phones ?

With the continued defiance of Sprint and Google to not upgrade our phones, and with ever better phones being released, I'm starting to think about whether to jump back to HTC ?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
And check out the TERRIBLE results of the Nexus S
Anyone else ?

I care more about how easy the bootloader is to unlock. If I can flash an AOSP ROM I don't care about brand. The nexus as a concept is great but in reality it isn't much different than any other phone without an encrypted bootloader. I am sure the GS3 will beat the HTC One in everything as well. Every month or two a new phone will be announced that is top dog.

Wait until the HTC one series is out!! Looks good to me on the pictures and specs.
Greetzz, Jojoost.
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You do realize that benchmarks like those are performed on stock ROMs right?
And you also realize that most of those phones in the top results are dual-core, right? Why on earth would you expect the Nexus S to place with them? And the first benchmark is a bit suspect when it shows the Nexus One beating a Nexus S. Sorry, but no.
Seriously, though, my Nexus S with ICS on it runs just as fast as it did in Gingerbread. I dont notice any major slowdowns at all, and graphical/UI performance is just fine.
Have you asked yourself WHY you want a new phone? I'd love a Galaxy Nexus, but I see no point in it when my Nexus S runs just fine. Is upgrading going to save you time on your tasks? Maybe.....but by how much? And is the phone you upgrade to going to have an unlocked bootloader and ROM support? Remember the community you're in right now, because it's one of the best out there (the NS community).
Point being.....is it really worth it? I know for me, I'm sticking with my NS for atleast another 6-8 months. We've gone from dual-core to quad-core in a very short time, and things are just moving way too fast for me to be upgrading to anything at this point. Blink again and we'll have 16 core phones with brain sensors.

nickmv said:
You do realize that benchmarks like those are performed on stock ROMs right?
And you also realize that most of those phones in the top results are dual-core, right? Why on earth would you expect the Nexus S to place with them? And the first benchmark is a bit suspect when it shows the Nexus One beating a Nexus S. Sorry, but no.
Seriously, though, my Nexus S with ICS on it runs just as fast as it did in Gingerbread. I dont notice any major slowdowns at all, and graphical/UI performance is just fine.
Have you asked yourself WHY you want a new phone? I'd love a Galaxy Nexus, but I see no point in it when my Nexus S runs just fine. Is upgrading going to save you time on your tasks? Maybe.....but by how much? And is the phone you upgrade to going to have an unlocked bootloader and ROM support? Remember the community you're in right now, because it's one of the best out there (the NS community).
Point being.....is it really worth it? I know for me, I'm sticking with my NS for atleast another 6-8 months. We've gone from dual-core to quad-core in a very short time, and things are just moving way too fast for me to be upgrading to anything at this point. Blink again and we'll have 16 core phones with brain sensors.
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I unwillingly had to give up my nexus and now have a tmo g2 running cm7. Just ran a quadrant benchmark at 1.5 ghz. I'm very pleased with my score. Didn't think it would even come close to my nexus. I was wrong lol
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I personally am holding out for the SGS3, that thing is going to be a monster..
The way I look at it is, phones will be coming out one after another, each being better than the last, so you just gotta wait until one really catches your eye, and jump on it even with this, the phone you get will be outdated in less than a year, lol. Thats just the way phones are progressing

grifforama said:
With the continued defiance of Sprint and Google to not upgrade our phones, and with ever better phones being released, I'm starting to think about whether to jump back to HTC ?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
And check out the TERRIBLE results of the Nexus S
Anyone else ?
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This is the phone I will be holding out for, hopefully Sprint will get it.
Finally an Android manufacturer is making a big move towards something that makes a lot of sense- MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF PHONE MODELS RELEASED EACH YEAR! I love the direction that Google is going but I have been disgusted with the direction the manufacturers are headed- more and more phones with bigger and bigger screens that they can't keep updated because there are too many phones to update. What HTC is doing is brilliant and will essentially eliminate fragmentation on HTC devices- hopefully Samsung will follow suit (though in many ways I prefer HTC devices).
I'm surprised Google hasn't mandated that manufacturers reduce the number of phones they're making. Every other mobile OS gets very timely updates except Android because of the extensive fragmentation. This trend by HTC may set a new standard for Android devices.
Personally, I could care less about benchmarks and any of Samsung's future phones. I'm dissatisfied with the performance of both the Wifi and Data reception and their ever increasing screen size- I'm sure the SGS3 will have a 5.5" screen or something similarly ridiculous. (I realize the similarly large screen size of the HTC One, I for one would opt for the V(?) or whichever one is the size of the Sensation).
Anyhoo, bravo HTC!

I fail to understand why HTC would put every possible bell and whistle on the One X, AND make it look beautiful, and then limit storage to 32GB.
A massive step forward though. By the time my upgrade comes along in late 2013 I should have a serious monster in my hands, and hopefully a good looking one too with good build quality (and a damn MicroSD Card slot).

How good is this phone

hi im a zte blade user but am looking to buy a new phone. ive done research on this phone but wanted to know whether this phone is really worth the upgrade? if anyone can help answer a few question that would be awesome
- is this phone fast, in terms of games, multitasking and just browsing through the screens and app drawer etc
- what is the rom development like for this phone, do you reckon it will get any of the latest updates soon?
- is it worth £130?
thanks in advance if anyone can help

- Yes, it is quite snappy. I have yet to find something that will make it unacceptably laggy or slow.
- The latest complete release is Gingerbread. Newer releases (ICS, JB) are in the making and should be just around the corner, it all depends on when will Motorola release their own version so devs can extract proper hardware drivers from it.
- Is that brand new? Then sure, otherwise it can easily be found for significantly less.

i think this is a pretty good phone.
1) Yes. Very snappy and smooth. And thats on GB. On JB (unofficial CM10), it flies! Totally awesome!
2) Rom development...well, its not that bad, but could be better. We have all the latest roms available, but as of right now, we only have one dev that actually owns an Atrix. Others devs are blind building. Not that they are doing a bad job, in fact, they are doing terrific job blind building, my respect for them.
3) Don't know. Got it for around 170$ used a couple of months back.
Offtopic: Lets wait for ATRIX_LOVER to come in, and flame this phone like there is no tomorrow. Lol.

If I broke mine I would be searching Ebay for a good deal on another Atrix 4G.The one I have now I got for $162.50

It's a good phone for the money you pay. Very easy to repair, so if you're on a tight budget, broken screens etc are a cheap fix compared to other phones (no glue used etc.) You can get a cheap lapdock, for less than the price of gs2 you can have a pad and a phone.
Performance wise, Tegra 2 benchmarks about the same as a dual core 800MHz chip of the current generation of phones. Not rocket fast, but definitely smooth enough. Games compiled for Tegra 2 perform much better than you would expect as the ulv geforce is a competent GPU. Lack of neon extensions means that apps not optimised for T2 take a performance hit. This will become more of an issue as time goes on; T3 has simd extensions put back in so there's little incentive for developers to keep two code paths. It does have an unlocked bootloader available, a huge bonus for dev support. On the other hand, being a Tegra 2 based phone means it will never reach the popularity of the likes of sg2 or some HTC phones.
We are promised an official ICS ROM within the next couple of months, you can expect good support up to Jelly Bean: after that, not so much.
Imho, it's a bargain for the prices it's sold at, especially if you get a lapdock at the same time. You get a phone and a pad for, essentially, the price of a low/mid range phone.
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It's a good phone. £130 seems like a good deal. I wouldn't pay anything above £160 for it.
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We are promised an official ICS ROM within the next couple of months, you can expect good support up to Jelly Bean: after that, not so much.
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Unless Android's next version still uses ICS drivers.

thanks for all the replies,
i can get the phone used for £130, which is on its own (no lapdock) i think that is a good price and within my budget.
i cant seem to find any other phone with similar or better specs at this price unless someone could point me in the right direction?
thanks again

ropin1 said:
thanks for all the replies,
i can get the phone used for £130, which is on its own (no lapdock) i think that is a good price and within my budget.
i cant seem to find any other phone with similar or better specs at this price unless someone could point me in the right direction?
thanks again
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You might be able to pick up an LG optimus 2x for slightly cheaper than the atrix. It has the same tegra processor as the atrix. Even has hdmi. Main difference is that it has 512mb ram whereas atrix has double that.
I've used both and there's no noticeable difference in performance when running the cm7 roms.
If it's possible you might want to wait and see if either phone is getting official ics. The LG owners are in a similar position as us regarding updates
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ropin1 said:
thanks for all the replies,
i can get the phone used for £130, which is on its own (no lapdock) i think that is a good price and within my budget.
i cant seem to find any other phone with similar or better specs at this price unless someone could point me in the right direction?
thanks again
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For a little more you could get an HTC Sensation. I'd say that the Sensation is harder to unlock and has pluses and minuses from the Atrix. Personally I prefer the Atrix but the Sensation might be a better bet forthe future given the liklihood of ongoing support/development.

Would One X+ be a better buy?

Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
(Hope this is the correct forum to post this question)

ajaffarali said:
Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
(Hope this is the correct forum to post this question)
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I thought it had nice stats and I love HTC devices. I would have probably gotten it if it wasn't for the N4. That said man. I love this N4. If you were wanting it, I'd wait it out. You'll be happy you did.

ajaffarali said:
Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
(Hope this is the correct forum to post this question)
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I've owned HTC devices, they're good but HTC will not update it soon. Maybe by next year. The camera is better and you wouldn't have to wait, otherwise I'd go with the Nexus 4.

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I thought it had nice stats and I love HTC devices. I would have probably gotten it if it wasn't for the N4. That said man. I love this N4. If you were wanting it, I'd wait it out. You'll be happy you did.
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Thanks for your response. Is the glass on the back of your phone scary? There is a thread here of someone cracking it and the verge review also mentioned the back cracking. I have had my iphone 4s slipped off my hands a few times (didn't crack though)

ajaffarali said:
Thanks for your response. Is the glass on the back of your phone scary? There is a thread here of someone cracking it and the verge review also mentioned the back cracking. I have had my iphone 4s slipped off my hands a few times (didn't crack though)
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It's very slippery indeed. Especially if you place it down on an uneven surface. I'm definitely going to buy a coating for the back or a case.

If price wasn't an issue, I would purchase the One X+ rather than wait indefinitely for the N4.

Anyone has any performance or battery life comparisons? I understand the Nexus 4 has a more powerful CPU but from what I'm reading, it throttles down more than it should. In that case, does the One X+ end up being a better overall performer?

ajaffarali said:
Thanks for your response. Is the glass on the back of your phone scary? There is a thread here of someone cracking it and the verge review also mentioned the back cracking. I have had my iphone 4s slipped off my hands a few times (didn't crack though)
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Scary? No. Fragile? Perhaps. But I have had quite a few phones and they all seem like that to me. I put a TPU case on it. It raises the screen off of any surface so I don't scratch it and it will protect it from a small fall.
The Battery has been ok for me. I got about 8 hours yesterday with heavy usage and I was at 41% when I crashed, so I left it on my chest of drawers and this morning it was at 39%. I thought that was cool. My Inspire would have been almost dead.

Nexus has more RAM and a much better SoC. There isn't much between the One X and the One X+, and I don't regret changing one bit.
Of you are thinking of HTC I would suggest getting an N4 users ditched one off eBay and saving a bit of cash.
No S-OFF for them, mind, which is gash.

My only concern is the fact that tegra 3 is really outdated. Regardless what benchmarks say and what not. They are outdated.
The tegra 3 is still fast and has good performance, while that's all fun and good there's still many many down sides
1. Google is moving at a fast pace, that means => more updates
2. for HTC sense that means they will have to put that into their UI - if you're aware of htc you should know by now that their sense UI framework all goes together. That means if one part doesn't work you probably won't get the rest of it to work. This means that updates generally probably take longer to integrate into sense than it does into stock android. Even galaxy s3 is a better option in my opinion, the reason i believe samsung is able to upgrade their devices faster than HTC is because their UI is NOT as complicated. IMO touchwiz is just stock with a few things refurbished.
3.LOCKED BOOTLOADER - I'll say it once and i'll say it again, flashing is easy. Very easy. However, there are MANY people who are on leaked jelly bean rom via flashing.
Where's the problem you ask? The problem is that it is only flashable to a certain number of cids. In the htc one x/jelly bean leak update case, the jelly bean rom was only flashable to european cids, this means that MANY people couldn't flash their phone despite having rooted and some even unbranded phones.
This is in my opinion very unfair of htc and a good reason to choose not to go for HTC until they sort this mess out.
4. The price of the htc one x -> 520~530 euros... No thank you, you can get an as equally good device (nexus 4) for cheaper. And even if it is not cheaper in your country and costs you 500 euros, it is still better than an outdated tegra 3 chip with slow updates.
I have the feeling google will sort out battery problems. Just give them time. Once again, that's just my opinion, but i have faith in google.
oh and #5...
Tegra 4 is probably coming out next year, which isn't too far from now, you might have to wait a few months. But before getting this outdated chip you might wanna stick to nothing or buy a nexus 4. I know i'd do that, but i want to go for google this time around because they give you the best experience in the long run.

Well, you could have one before a month so if your in a hurry its a good buy.
Other than that, I wouldn't. Primarily due to the screens HTC uses, but that is personal preference.

ajaffarali said:
Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
(Hope this is the correct forum to post this question)
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If you cannot wait it out like me, I would suggest the galaxy note 2 if the size and price is not a concern for you. I got the international version because it receives updates faster that the American carrier crippled versions.

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If you cannot wait it out like me, I would suggest the galaxy note 2 if the size and price is not a concern for you. I got the international version because it receives updates faster that the American carrier crippled versions.
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The Note 2 is massive! I tried one out but couldn't get used to the size.

I was definitely going to get the One X+ until they announced the N4, which became my preference, With the delay I have looked at the HOX+ again but prefer to wait for the N4, due to price, better SOC, updates.
However if HTC were to announce a WW version of the DNA.............

Rusty! said:
Nexus has more RAM and a much better SoC. There isn't much between the One X and the One X+, and I don't regret changing one bit.
Of you are thinking of HTC I would suggest getting an N4 users ditched one off eBay and saving a bit of cash.
No S-OFF for them, mind, which is gash.
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I completely agree that the SoC is technically better but what's the point if thermals aren't good enough to keep it in check. The iPhone 5 with a dual core processor is performing better than the Nexus 4 which shouldn't be the case.

crawlgsx said:
Well, you could have one before a month so if your in a hurry its a good buy.
Other than that, I wouldn't. Primarily due to the screens HTC uses, but that is personal preference.
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What's wrong with the screen of the one x? Apparently it is as good as the nexus 4 if not better. The only difference being that the one x has more contrast. The only thing i liked about the one x was its amazing screen.

You could wait for a bit and see if the DNA gets released worldwide? The Nexus 4 might be out by then so you can compare

ballaz said:
If you cannot wait it out like me, I would suggest the galaxy note 2 if the size and price is not a concern for you. I got the international version because it receives updates faster that the American carrier crippled versions.
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I seriously gave this a thought and decided the phone is just way too big - I tried putting dummies on my pocket about 10x. It will fit well in your pocket (imo) but since I'm an active dude that's always on the go it's not ideal at all. I need something more mobile that can be tucked in easily. I think I'll set a 5-inch screen as my limit. Beyond that it's an overkill.
Moreso, if the N4 did not exist I would've given the Lumia 920 a try for a change.

I'd say they are on par. But only if the One X+ gets Cyanogenmod 10.
The One X has:
-a better camera
-LTE
-more storage
BUT
-1gb of RAM (WHY HTC?!... WHY?)

ajaffarali said:
Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
(Hope this is the correct forum to post this question)
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If they were both the same price: HTC. Seeing as the off contract price of the HTC is double that of the Nexus 4: Nexus.
Backordered baby!