Wireless charging Orb - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When this drops, will you be looking to purchase it? I think I'll probably get it if it's under $30 bucks... I'm hoping it's much cheaper but trying to have realistic expectations. Unless they've revolutionized how fast it will charge, induction charging is more for novelty IMHO, but no less... What do you think?

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mr2324jgf said:
When this drops, will you be looking to purchase it? I think I'll probably get it if it's under $30 bucks... I'm hoping it's much cheaper but trying to have realistic expectations. Unless they've revolutionized how fast it will charge, induction charging is more for novelty IMHO, but no less... What do you think?
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Honestly, Ill be paying whatever they ask (within reason!) to get the charging orb; sounds like an amazing toy.. and Honestly, it does sound like a real convenience to me *imagines grabbing phone from bed in morning*
Also, if charging IS slower, I generally charge overnight anyway :laugh:

G405T said:
Honestly, Ill be paying whatever they ask (within reason!) to get the charging orb; sounds like an amazing toy.. and Honestly, it does sound like a real convenience to me *imagines grabbing phone from bed in morning*
Also, if charging IS slower, I generally charge overnight anyway :laugh:
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true, same here... i'd probably set it on the table by my chair TBH... my phone just lays there anyways, it could be charging that whole time, really. What's your top dollar though... really?

mr2324jgf said:
true, same here... i'd probably set it on the table by my chair TBH... my phone just lays there anyways, it could be charging that whole time, really. What's your top dollar though... really?
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I guess I would probably spend up to about £60 (just under $100); but I really hope it doesn't cost that much, there will be other compatible Qi chargers if there are not any already

I hacked my Galaxy Nexus to work with a Palm Touchstone and I can never go back. I have one at home and at the office, they're both really convenient. So yes, I'll be grabbing two for sure.

Is the wireless charger included or not?

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Is the wireless charger included or not?
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I assume it'll be a separate accessory. Correction, a SECKSY separate accessory! :good:

I'm looking to get two of these, one for home and one for work. I hope they aren't too expensive, but I won't hold my breath. Then again, if you'd told me the NExus 4 would be £240, I'd have laughed.

I still have my palm pre one. I wonder if that will work?

stretched said:
I still have my palm pre one. I wonder if that will work?
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Should do, they are both QI standard

stretched said:
I still have my palm pre one. I wonder if that will work?
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I've read that any Qi standard charger will work. We shouldn't have to get the stock one. At least we can price shop.

im planning to get one..but does it charge as fast?

No, wireless charging is a bit slower than a cable

I guess it depends on the price...
The N4 will be compatible with any wireless charging source as long as it supports the standard.

Touchstone chargers can be had on eBay for around $6 so I will be picking up a few from there unless Google's are pretty cheap.

Is anyone else excited about the possibility of finally being able to buy a good universal car dock with wireless charging and not having to buy a new one now on with new phones (assuming that the new phones start coming with wireless charging) ?

Can we do cable charging + inductive charging at the same time?
Will it charge faster?

Wireless charging future
Imagine one day in future where universal wireless charging orb is a standard on every office desk. Can't wait for that day to come.

Can't imagine them pricing it too high, judging by the price of the nexus 4 itself, I'd imagine the wireless charger will be priced what it's truly worth, probably around $20.
If it were apple selling it, it'd be $100 :silly:

I just bought 2 of the touchstone pads for 5 bucks each off eBay just in case they do work for it. Even if they're slower than the nexus versions at least I have backups

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anyone else have a loose charger?

Anyone else notice there charger is super loose and barely stays in or is it just mine. It feels like the pin isn't long enough.
Yea I think its just your phone...i have 2 and they work fine...can hold it from the charger and it won't fall out.
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Legacystar said:
Anyone else notice there charger is super loose and barely stays in or is it just mine. It feels like the pin isn't long enough.
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Yes mine too, the pin is too long and does'nt go in all the way; almost a deal breaker among other things.
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Yea I think its just your phone...i have 2 and they work fine...can hold it from the charger and it won't fall out.
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I don't think so, the xoom is too heavy to be held from the charger? in fact the whole charging system is a big flaw in this tablet, I am very disappointed.
Yep. Loose charger here too.
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Very disappointed they couldn't do a charge over USB. I was reading that the reason they can't charge over the USB port is that the batteries are so big and draw so much power to charge that the micro USB wouldn't be able to offer the throughput to charge it up fast enough.
Not sure how much I buy that, but at any rate they could've come up with a charging port combo that doesn't look like it came from a Nokia I bought 10 years ago lol.
Well it seems that the charger port and piece are affecting a few of you guys. But mine is good. No problem here. But that said, I was still pretty disappointed I couldn't use the same port as the phone.
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I was upset about this at first as well but then again with essentially a 10 hour non stop usage time I will never have the charger in while using it. I also think it adds incentive to buy the Standard dock which at $39.99 isnt exactly terrible.
But still...why the dinky little charger?!
Yeah same problem here, I hate the charging system here.
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Very disappointed they couldn't do a charge over USB. I was reading that the reason they can't charge over the USB port is that the batteries are so big and draw so much power to charge that the micro USB wouldn't be able to offer the throughput to charge it up fast enough.
Not sure how much I buy that, but at any rate they could've come up with a charging port combo that doesn't look like it came from a Nokia I bought 10 years ago lol.
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I agree. It reminds me of a phone I had years ago.
I agree, but 10 hour battery life and 100% charge in about an hour? It's a fair trade off. I agree, though, that the attachment is tiny (wouldn't say "loose," though). Better than a dock port connector, but I'd prefer something a bit more robust. Meh.
The charger on mine is horrible.
I was sketchy at best brand new, a month in and it doesn't work at all.
At first I had to fiddle with it, get the xoom at just the right angle etc to get it to charge. Now it doesn't make contact at all. I didn't return it right away because I heard some of the issues, but figured it did work just not well.
Once it crapped out completely it was past my 30 return window.
I ended up buying the charging dock. This works fine and the "road charger' that came with it works fine (so far) as well. I am thinking of just throwing in my gimpy charger in the box and returning the dock as it is pretty over priced and i feel a bit miffed that i had to pan an additional $50 just to charge my xoom.

Anyone getting a portable battery pack?

I usually get a few ebay batteries for my phone when i'm travelling but it seems that won't be the case this time around with the Nexus 4. Next option would be to pick up a portable battery charger. Any recommendations for one preferably with a built in concealable cable?
Something like this one but larger capacity: http://www.amazon.com/SlimTalk-Exte...TF8&colid=3JV3M6BBIVSNO&coliid=I3SU5TRGE8UZYR
I already have this one, it seems to work really well and will charge my Ipad, Nexus 7 and phones.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0073F92OK/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i01
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I already have this one, it seems to work really well and will charge my Ipad, Nexus 7 and phones.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0073F92OK/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i01
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This is what I've got as well, it's pretty compact and easy to carry, plus the torch can come in handy at times too. Before that I had a 5000mAh Pebble, which was actually not that much smaller, and was a bit more of a nuisance because it didn't use microUSB to charge itself (instead opting for some weird tiny barrel connector).
I plan on getting one of these (the 10,000 Mah variant )
http://www.amazon.com/5600mAh-Exter...&qid=1351732273&sr=1-3&keywords=anker+battery
I may buy one later on. Until then I plan on making a solar charger for my car.
jnewman1991 said:
I may buy one later on. Until then I plan on making a solar charger for my car.
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Please tell me more!
Slap-Yourself :) said:
Please tell me more!
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It's nothing really special. If you search for DIY solar usb charger there are quite a few instructions on how to do it for pretty cheap.
jnewman1991 said:
It's nothing really special. If you search for DIY solar usb charger there are quite a few instructions on how to do it for pretty cheap.
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Wow thats great! shuld try this out. thanks!
Mophie and powerskin would make a lot off this phone
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tracerit said:
I usually get a few ebay batteries for my phone when i'm travelling but it seems that won't be the case this time around with the Nexus 4. Next option would be to pick up a portable battery charger. Any recommendations for one preferably with a built in concealable cable?
Something like this one but larger capacity: http://www.amazon.com/SlimTalk-Exte...TF8&colid=3JV3M6BBIVSNO&coliid=I3SU5TRGE8UZYR
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qnet said:
I already have this one, it seems to work really well and will charge my Ipad, Nexus 7 and phones.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0073F92OK/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i01
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I have both of these. The one the OP is looking at doesn't last nearly as long as the MFG claims it does. The second one is great for the two settings 0.6 and 2.0 amps. The weird thing is that my N7 won't charge on the 2.0 amp setting. I have to connect it to the 0.6 amp setting. And the brand on mine is Anker. I like the latter better, tho you have to have a usb cable. Actually, now that I am thinking about it, it comes with some small cables and various connectors for different devices.
http://bensoutlet.com/products/anker-astro2-8400
35 bucks for a 8400 mah isnt bad.
ElectroBeijing said:
I plan on getting one of these (the 10,000 Mah variant )
http://www.amazon.com/5600mAh-Exter...&qid=1351732273&sr=1-3&keywords=anker+battery
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I've got this coming in the mail right now
I might pick up the 8400 anker if it seems necessary after a few weeks of use.
I'm planning to get one if there is inductive charging build into the case with 7-10k mAh
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I might pick up the 8400 anker if it seems necessary after a few weeks of use.
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Yes that's what I use for my nexus 7,phone and ipod. Very very useful. :thumbup:
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Can't wait until they build one of these with wireless charging built in. THEN I'll buy one
I just bought this one - check around for some coupon codes to get an additional $5 off. I liked the look of the Zagg sparq series and the ability to plug it in (no more carrying around an ac adapter) but the build quality is questionable and the price is too high!
What about this one http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP120D-Thunderbolt-Blackberry/dp/B003ZBZ64Q/ref=pd_cp_cps_3
It's a 12000 mAh.
I just ordered one of these 12000mAh from China off ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12000mAh-Ex...444570?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5d358dcf1a
I didn't buy from this particular seller and I haven't used it yet, so I can't recommend anything about it. (A bunch of sellers sell the same item.)
The marketing material seems legit and the price is good. I'll see if I made the right decision.
The width and height happens to be about the same as the S3 and N4. They claim an efficiency of 90% with the lithium polymer batteries. I would be happy if the N4 required one or two charges to get through an evening out and if this "power bank" could deliver ~4 charges.
The question is, how do you use these things? In the pocket, without an inductive Qi charger of the right size, i don't seem myself charging it with the cable in pocket regularly. It makes it a hassle to pull the phone out of the pocket and use. I see myself charging or powering the phone with it if I find myself sitting down for 10 mins or more, say at a meal.
How are you all planning to use an external battery brick?
yes, portable battery pack is required if you are high end user, playing high end games... I already have one

[Q]Does wireless charging work with OTG?

So I was just thinking, we know the nexus 4 has wireless charging capabilities and also OTG.
My question is will both be able to be used at once ie: connect usb stick to watch movies whilst charging wireless on a charging mat?
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So I was just thinking, we know the nexus 4 has wireless charging capabilities and also OTG.
My question is will both be able to be used at once ie: connect usb stick to watch movies whilst charging wireless on a charging mat?
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I don't see why it wouldn't. I've got a like 6 OTG cables lying around, I'll be sure to check it out as soon as my N4 gets here if nobody else comes up with a definite answer.
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I don't see why it wouldn't. I've got a like 6 OTG cables lying around, I'll be sure to check it out as soon as my N4 gets here if nobody else comes up with a definite answer.
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Thank you. It would be pretty nifty if this was possible. Its a tiny issue that I have with the GNexus. Do you have a wireless charging mat too? I want to get the nokia fat boy pillow with it
bryanlim05 said:
Thank you. It would be pretty nifty if this was possible. Its a tiny issue that I have with the GNexus. Do you have a wireless charging mat too? I want to get the nokia fat boy pillow with it
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Not yet. I plan on going to Fry's tomorrow to see what they have. If I don't see anything I'll probably order one of the energizer ones from Amazon.
Frankly, I cannot understand why they didn't release the charger at the same time. I really hope they don't pull a Sansung and release the accessories 6 months later. On another note, I see the palm wireless charging pods on amazon going for about 15 bucks. I wonder if they will work okay with the n4. Oregon Scientific has a charging mat/alarm clock weather station with Qi technology. It's about 105 bucks, but would be really nice. Decisions decisions.
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Frankly, I cannot understand why they didn't release the charger at the same time. I really hope they don't pull a Sansung and release the accessories 6 months later. On another note, I see the palm wireless charging pods on amazon going for about 15 bucks. I wonder if they will work okay with the n4. Oregon Scientific has a charging mat/alarm clock weather station with Qi technology. It's about 105 bucks, but would be really nice. Decisions decisions.
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The palm touchstones will not work with the N4.
TY for confirming that. Saved me the trouble of testing it out myself. Anyone else recommend a wireless charging pad?
NexUsandThem said:
TY for confirming that. Saved me the trouble of testing it out myself. Anyone else recommend a wireless charging pad?
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The energizer qi pads on Amazon are what a lot of people are going with. The LG WCP 700 is also a charger that can be used. The only bad part is that it beeps after the phone has been charged and continues to beep until you take it off. Apparently you can take the speaker out of it and it works just fine if you are willing to take the risk.

Cheap QI Wireless chargers. Are they any good?

Been thinking about getting a wireless charger for some time. However the price has been putting me off for a while.
But, now that demand for QI chargers have been growing, there are more cheaper versions available.
I've been looking around and seen the site mentioned a few times: http://www.fasttech.com
Prices are pretty good ($ to £) and there's free shipping. I've been looking at the USB version as I would want to plug it in to either my desktop or laptop rather than use a mains adaptor.
But I'm worried about the quality of these devices. They don't look too robust and might break easily. Also concerned about charging times, I've heard that cheap QI devices can take a long time to charge or don't fully charge the phone.
So, has anyone got any experience with these products : good/bad or are there better alternatives at the same price.
Thanks
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cmberry20 said:
Been thinking about getting a wireless charger for some time. However the price has been putting me off for a while.
But, now that demand for QI chargers have been growing, there are more cheaper versions available.
I've been looking around and seen the site mentioned a few times: http://www.fasttech.com
Prices are pretty good ($ to £) and there's free shipping. I've been looking at the USB version as I would want to plug it in to either my desktop or laptop rather than use a mains adaptor.
But I'm worried about the quality of these devices. They don't look too robust and might break easily. Also concerned about charging times, I've heard that cheap QI devices can take a long time to charge or don't fully charge the phone.
So, has anyone got any experience with these products : good/bad or are there better alternatives at the same price.
Thanks
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Your answers should be here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2123394
Rather Large thread just on the Fasttech charger.
Thanks. The N7 version from fast tech seem pretty good. Are there any others that are worth considering?
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People have been saying the Metrans one has been one of the best QI Chargers, As well as the Panasonic ones. Since more Flagship Phones (HTC ONE, Galaxy S4) are coming out with Qi Enabled I can see more chargers hitting the market. Ones I'm on the watch of are: QiMINI and the New Nokia Car Charger. The QiMINI mostly due to size and portability but if the price is over $60USD I'll pass since I can get the Metrans or the Orb for that much. The Nokia Car Charger looks very promising but if the Price is too high then I'll have to wait to see if other Car Chargers come out. And hopefully it won't have the QC Issues the other Nokia Charger had.
Yeah there are a lot of new designs hitting the market. However, I think paying over $30/£20 is too much for a 'novelty' charger. At the end of the day a wireless charger does exactly the the same job as a $1 cable but doesn't have the ability to transfer files. So I don't really warrant paying loads for a QI charger.
But on the other hand if I get a cheap one I don't want it to be crap!
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Yeah there are a lot of new designs hitting the market. However, I think paying over $30/£20 is too much for a 'novelty' charger. At the end of the day a wireless charger does exactly the the same job as a $1 cable but doesn't have the ability to transfer files. So I don't really warrant paying loads for a QI charger.
But on the other hand if I get a cheap one I don't want it to be crap!
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a good counter to that statement is that i can transfer files wirelessly too
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Yeah there are a lot of new designs hitting the market. However, I think paying over $30/£20 is too much for a 'novelty' charger. At the end of the day a wireless charger does exactly the the same job as a $1 cable but doesn't have the ability to transfer files. So I don't really warrant paying loads for a QI charger.
But on the other hand if I get a cheap one I don't want it to be crap!
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You set your budget too high For what it does, I wouldn't pay more than 20 (plus shipping) for a QI charger. I believe they are so expensive now because of the novelty. Won't be too long, before they fall below the 20 mark. I already have one on order that costed me 21 including shipping. And that thing is as small as a hockey puck. Look it up in case you haven't, it's called the metrans mwt03
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a good counter to that statement is that i can transfer files wirelessly too
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I disagree that it's a good counter. You don't need a wireless charger to transfer files wirelessly. How does that support the purchase decision of one? Add to that the fact that wireless transfer is slower than through a 1$ data cable, it actually weakens your counter
I made the point of Wireless chargers being a bit of a novelty in my review here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246340
Sorry to kind of go off on a tangent, but is the Nexus 4 Qi Orb really worth all that money? I can only get it from Mobile fun in the UK for £60.
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Sorry to kind of go off on a tangent, but is the Nexus 4 Qi Orb really worth all that money? I can only get it from Mobile fun in the UK for £60.
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Look around in the accessories section. Much better and cheaper alternatives available.
QI Charger cheap
Type into amazon "qi wireless charger" and it should be the first link that comes up, a white charging mat thats says "qi wireless charger" on it, sorry I cant post links :/
This charger has some good reviews on amazon and youtube, and its only £20 with postage! I dont think the official nexus orb is completely worth the money, since people have complained of problems with it not letting the nexus stick to it.
Yeah, so have a look for some videos on it on youtube
I personally prefer the black one lol!

Does the Note4 support wireless charging?

I haven't seen this covered and if it has been, I'd appreciate anyone posting a link to the article. Does the Note4 support wireless charging or will we have to get one of those stickers as we have to do for the Note 3?
Thanks in advance
nevermind, answered my own question, same crap. How come they can include wireless charging in the S5 but not in the Note4? Seems like they did some great stuff that seemed very basic and rushed the Note4 out without the same tech such as dust and waterproof. I don't get it.
I have been wondering the same thing. I certainly won't get one unless it has Qi charging. I am assuming they will release a wireless back cover again.
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I have been wondering the same thing. I certainly won't get one unless it has Qi charging. I am assuming they will release a wireless back cover again.
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I don't want to buy another back or another "sticker". How is it other models have it built in and this, their "latest" version doesn't? This is truly a step backward in the Note series. Huawei's devices are looking very nice right now.
I wonder if the quick charging will work with wireless charging?
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I wonder if the quick charging will work with wireless charging?
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No. They are two separate things... a given Qi charger only puts out a limited amount of power.
Do the Huawei phones have wireless charging? After you mentioned Huawei I checked out some of their best devices but couldn't see any wireless charging options.
If it is wireless charging, does it mean it will have a magnetic back? I need that so I can stick it to my car CD slot caddy.
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I haven't seen this covered and if it has been, I'd appreciate anyone posting a link to the article. Does the Note4 support wireless charging or will we have to get one of those stickers as we have to do for the Note 3?
Thanks in advance
nevermind, answered my own question, same crap. How come they can include wireless charging in the S5 but not in the Note4? Seems like they did some great stuff that seemed very basic and rushed the Note4 out without the same tech such as dust and waterproof. I don't get it.
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Wait. They included wireless charging in the s5? My wife has the s5 and I had to buy a qi back to get wireless charging. I've had to buy qi receivers for all my other phones
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Lol screw wireless charging, as long as I get 50% battery charge under 30 mins, I be satisfied
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COA4178 said:
Lol screw wireless charging, as long as I get 50% battery charge under 30 mins, I be satisfied
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^^What he said^^ and theres no way any wireless charger can do that, also given my experience with the LG G3 I am not ruling out damage to the battery or device due to overheating whilst wireless charging, my battery life on G3 perished after such time as I started using wireless charger.
I may be wrong, however, its fairly coincidental.
On a related note the pins are definitely there for wireless charging but no coil as far as I can tell.
Note 4 DOES support wireless charging with the correct door and or cheap coil which im sure will be available soon.
Glad to hear that it supports Qi charging (with add on). Since going wireless on my Note 3 I'll never plug my phone in again.
I'm pretty sure the reason the Note wasn't certified dust and water-resistant is the large long opening in it to accommodate the S-Pen.
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I'm pretty sure the reason the Note wasn't certified dust and water-resistant is the large long opening in it to accommodate the S-Pen.
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I don't see why Samsung or any smartphone company hasn't started using the vapor/nano-coat waterproofing. It wouldn't matter how big any hole is. See HzO, P2i and others.
The day I get my Note 4 I'm sending it in to get 'vaporized'. Only ~50 bucks, totally worth it for a $1000 device that fits in your pocket.
Idk why Samsung doesn't include the wireless charging back to begin with. That way all the cases would still fit it. It's irritating to say the least.
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I don't see why Samsung or any smartphone company hasn't started using the vapor/nano-coat waterproofing. It wouldn't matter how big any hole is. See HzO, P2i and others.
The day I get my Note 4 I'm sending it in to get 'vaporized'. Only ~50 bucks, totally worth it for a $1000 device that fits in your pocket.
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Its 60 bucks and it says specifically on the site that its not waterproof. I can find better ways to spend 60 bucks.
TabGuy said:
Glad to hear that it supports Qi charging (with add on). Since going wireless on my Note 3 I'll never plug my phone in again.
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Same here. I use the stock samsung wireless cover I think I got for 20 bucks for my note 3. It works great with the TYLT and I don't use usb anymore. Even when traveling I have a portable battery "ravpower" with QI built in and it works great.
Because then they couldnt charge you the $40 for a new back.
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Lol screw wireless charging, as long as I get 50% battery charge under 30 mins, I be satisfied
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I hope you know that quick charge feature required additional purchase of an adapter and good luck finding it before or soon after release.
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I hope you know that quick charge feature required additional purchase of an adapter and good luck finding it before or soon after release.
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No it doesn't. The note 4 comes with a charger with 2 capacities. Normal and the quick charge. No need to buy any extra or new "special" charger.
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