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Does anyone else find it very time consuming to have to reinstall all of your data after every rom wipe? I find my self never leaving a rom for awhile because of the whole set up process including the Google set up.
It takes me an hour.
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I can nandroid, wipe EVERYTHING, sign back in and restore data in under 20 mins.... you must be holding the phone wrong or something bud
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This is why Titanium Backup and Mybackup Root were written...
Titanium backup does all of that for you.... 20 minutes and your new ROM is setup
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I'm a solid 20-25 minutes max.
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Rooster85 said:
I can nandroid, wipe EVERYTHING, sign back in and restore data in under 20 mins.... you must be holding the phone wrong or something bud
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I suppose Ti is best, but I haven't seen a ics friendly one available on the open seas
Nandroid? I only have 1 one my phone and thats 2.3.3 stock.
They take long to make, then they just sit there wasting space. Its not like you can just go back to them lime nothing, because by that time they'll be outdated.
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Titanium is definitely ics friendly. If you have pro (or on free.. idk), set up filters with your must have apps. When you clear data ans flash a new rom, it will verify your TB account and restore settings, including filters. Just toggle the filter and do a batch restore. I was in the same boat you were til I started doing this.
And yes, TB also has a feature to restore apps or data, extracting from a nandroid backup.
•°NS4G • ICS°•
Or you could use es file explorer. Just go to the app manager button on the central screen, by pressing it it shows up all ur apps. Choose which ones you want and back them up. After flashing just restore using file explorer in the same manner...
The apps can also be found on the sdcard under backups/apps.
Astrofile manager does exactly the same job.. your pick.
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With Titanium Backup I can be back up and running in about 10 minutes.
Sign into Gmail
Sign into Outlook
Download TB from market
Restore apps and data
Done
Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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Shark_On_Land said:
Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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just save a copy of a TB apk to your SD.
Thats if the custom rom that has a file explorer preloaded. If not has to download also from market
Another annoying thing Google doesn't add to OS besides a restart option is a built in file explorer
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Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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TB pro has an option to create a TB update.zip This will allow you to flash/install TB threw CWR
Nandroid?..............
They take long to make, then they just sit there wasting space. Its not like you can just go back to them lime nothing, because by that time they'll be outdated.
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thats ridiculous:
1. im pretty sure ive noticed mine being around 6 minutes
2. they arent a waste of space since they are a back up file. i keep 3 always deleting the oldest one.
3. you CAN go back to them at anytime like nothing
4. i make mine every wednesday while im showering (which takes more then 6 minutes)
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TB pro has an option to create a TB update.zip This will allow you to flash/install TB threw CWR
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Wrong. Even the free one lets you create a flashable zip.
Moreover, you could make it build as a regular update.zip or even make it install as a system app or an user app.
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ozone89 said:
Wrong. Even the free one lets you create a flashable zip.
Moreover, you could make it build as a regular update.zip or even make it install as a system app or an user app.
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how the **** am i wrong i never said free one didn't
i said pro because that what i have
Noob question...flashed phone for first time yesterday and performed a backup using titanium free. When I flash a new rom don't you usually have to wipe data first? Would this not wipe the backup from your phone?
Thanks in advance!
It stores a copy in a folder called TitaniumBackup. If you wipe the SD card (or storage for us) that is different.
It is a hassle having to reinstall an app like Chase that requires a confirmation text. TB (Pro for me) makes restoring login info, etc a snap. Worth the $.
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It stores a copy in a folder called TitaniumBackup. If you wipe the SD card (or storage for us) that is different.
It is a hassle having to reinstall an app like Chase that requires a confirmation text. TB (Pro for me) makes restoring login info, etc a snap. Worth the $.
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So when I flash a new rom and wipe data, the SD card (storage) is not wiped?
Thanks!
Brett
Skillz1318 said:
So when I flash a new rom and wipe data, the SD card (storage) is not wiped?
Thanks!
Brett
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Noob replying to a noob (so pardon me, if i stumble):
When flashing a new ROM, you wipe - system, dalvik cache, data and boot ( perhaps not reqd.) Wiping SD card not required when installing new ROMs, unless it's the first time, and you're putting CWR on a Nexus S... However, some developers do recommending a full SD Card wipe as well. I assume you copy the Titanium backup folders to your PC, and copy it back before restoring.. Haven't tried that yet..
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Probably will have to buy Pro, since it's getting to be a pain to restore my apps, with the permissions for each one...
Somehow, TiBackup doesn't seem to restore my homescreen settings, though I remember reading somewhere that it should do that as well..
Also, learnt the hardway not to try restoring Call logs and Messages when moving from a GB ROM to an ICS ROM... Boot loops with 2 ICS roms (Nexusbeam and Brainmaster's )
So, what all can you restore using TiB with your eyes closed?
I am still new to this phone, but with the Evo we had a zip file that wiped the system, data, cache, etc instead of remembering which ones to wipe. Maybe there is something like that for the Nexus?
I only restore apps, so I am not much help outside of that. With TB Pro all you have to do is click batch and restore all the apps with data automatically while you sit there and wait. I generally restore user apps only, maybe someone else can chime in with advice on restoring settings?
There is also an option to save backups on your drop box account, but I don't.
I am a flashaholic, one of the reasons I bought a used NS4G was because I was bored with the Evo. Titanium Backup (Pro) makes it fast and easy to restore apps and data when flashing new ROMs.
Hey, i wanted to ask if anyone know any application (except Titanium Backup of course) that can make a batch backup of all my apps and data.
I have this problem since i change the rom of my Defy almost every week ( yea ) so i need a fast way to restore my apps & data.
Is there any way to backup my apps in a zip so i can flash it in recovery straight after every time a change my rom?
Thank u in advance!
Rerware makes an app called my backup that will batch backup apps, data, system settings, homescreen, SMS, call log, etc. Not as feature rich as titanium but simple and easy to use. Allows scheduling too. There is a free root version as well as a paid version. I have used both and never had a failed backup. Titanium sometimes hangs in the middle of a batch run for me. Anyway, best of luck.
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Not sure of anything that allows you to flash from recovery though. That sure would be convenient though.
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GO BACKUP!!! (if u need an app)....
if you want to restore data from recovery... then follow these steps....
1.backup your existing rom (via recovery)..
2.whenever you flash another rom..
go to backup and restore>advance restore>choose the backup u created in first step>the restore ONLY data....
note- some roms can give problem with the recovery method.....but most works... :laugh:
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!!! Seems suspicious -- lol
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!!! Seems suspicious -- lol
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I don't understand.
it might working but sometimes some data wont work well with new firmware
but you seem to forget one bigggggg step.... to backup the old data using cwm...
edan1979 said:
it might working but sometimes some data wont work well with new firmware
but you seem to forget one bigggggg step.... to backup the old data using cwm...
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Yes I wrote in red. There MIGHT have problem between versions. If you're on 4.0 and you flash 4.1. But even so I did it many time without problems
I didn't separate CWM & TWRP for the backup because it's basically same thing.
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I don't understand.
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Sorry, I just felt it could not be that easy, ROMs are being heavily optimized and tweaked from Dev-to-Dev, let alone the Official releases with different bases and Radios, so I just think that doing your method might pick-up some old cranky stuff from earlier backups, but yet again, its just my theory, which might be totally messed up
Will give it a shot though, it could save me hours.
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Sorry, I just felt it could not be that easy, ROMs are being heavily optimized and tweaked from Dev-to-Dev, let alone the Official releases with different bases and Radios, so I just think that doing your method might pick-up some old cranky stuff from earlier backups, but yet again, its just my theory, which might be totally messed up
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The "Restore Data" in CWM or TWRP will restore your apps/contacts/sms/etc.. But, for example if you restore a backup that had your gmail but your new ROM doesn't have gmail. The restore will just skip it.
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Will give it a shot though, it could save me hours.
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You won't regret it.
For restoring data Titanium OR similar application is better than Nandroid
Another advantage of Titanium is schedular backup
Above said method you need to backup just before flashing ROM, while if you schedule titanium you will ready to go anytime.
As well titanium data restore is quite clear then data restore from nandroid.
Nandroid is best for return to point where you were in case you messup things while testing something.
dr.ketan said:
For restoring data Titanium OR similar application is better than Nandroid
Another advantage of Titanium is schedular backup
Above said method you need to backup just before flashing ROM, while if you schedule titanium you will ready to go anytime.
As well titanium data restore is quite clear then data restore from nandroid.
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For restoring data Titanium OR similar application is better than Nandroid
Another advantage of Titanium is schedular backup
Above said method you need to backup just before flashing ROM, while if you schedule titanium you will ready to go anytime.
As well titanium data restore is quite clear then data restore from nandroid.
Nandroid is best for return to point where you were in case you messup things while testing something.
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I think they both have their advantages. Titanium will only restore apps but the method above will restore Apps/contacts/sms/gmail acounts/etc...
Titanium can restore contacts, bookmarks call logs as well sms too
And sms call logs are store in xml which is more clean when you restore trans OS./device
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The reason I only use titanium for restoring: I heard it is the cleanest, and as mentioned above nandroid restoring restores some weird **** from old roms
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I have transfered my sms contacts from galaxy S - S2 - note1 and now on note2 (froyo to JB)
I still have some sms. 3yr old and titanium never failed to restore
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klect said:
The reason I only use titanium for restoring: I heard it is the cleanest, and as mentioned above nandroid restoring restores some weird **** from old roms
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Exactly, titanium restore only what you want. And it's totally under your control, you can mess only if you don't know how to use it.
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dr.ketan said:
I have transfered my sms contacts from galaxy S - S2 - note1 and now on note2 (froyo to JB)
I still have some sms. 3yr old and titanium never failed to restore
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Exactly, titanium restore only what you want. And it's totally under your control, you can mess only if you don't know how to use it.
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Yes when restoring between devices or versions(ICS to JB etc..) The OP method is not the best. But if you flash a lot of ROMs all the same version this method is very quick and trouble free.
Yes, this method is quick, but I wouldn't use it for everyday ROM, maybe for testing etc. With Titanium you can backup/restore only USER apps. I think it is bad idea to restore system apps' data. So still the "cleanest" way is to back up everything with Titanium, flash ROM and then install Titanium and restore selected user apps+data.
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this method is very quick and trouble free.
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Not convincing,
See for nandroid you have to make recent backup if you want to have backup of latest stuff like SMS, call logs, newly installed App, contacts
AFAIK nandroid takes nearly 20 min to backup (depends on data it may take more)
Now again restoring as per you said takes 15 min for data.
For titanium if you have schedule, need not to make backup before flashing, even you want to make just run backup of modified data and it will finish in 1-2 min.
For me titanium takes just 15 min to restore
- >115 user app
- Contacts, SMS,Settings,Launcher home (desktop),Bookmarks
so it is more faster then nandroid ultimately
Nandroid is the choice as i said earlier,
If your device is working perfect just make nandroid, Try you want to test anything and if you are not happy with testing just restore Nandroid (full) you have made just before test and you are back.
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dalanik said:
Yes, this method is quick, but I wouldn't use it for everyday ROM, maybe for testing etc. With Titanium you can backup/restore only USER apps. I think it is bad idea to restore system apps' data. So still the "cleanest" way is to back up everything with Titanium, flash ROM and then install Titanium and restore selected user apps+data.
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But we never need to restore system application
Best scenario in titanium is restore 'Missing application with data', this will by default excludes any system application (from previous OS and absent in new ROM) still you will have choice to uncheck any application you don't want.
Contacts,settings - you can restore just data (green colored) and won't replace system files
while call log, SMS, browser (yellow color) are just xml format and best to restore without any issue
Just you need system data is only TW launche(stock), but we needs just data only not system.
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But we never need to restore system application
Best scenario in titanium is restore 'Missing application with data', this will by default excludes any system application (from previous OS and absent in new ROM) still you will have choice to uncheck any application you don't want.
Contacts,settings - you can restore just data (green colored) and won't replace system files
while call log, SMS, browser (yellow color) are just xml format and best to restore without any issue
Just you need system data is only TW launche(stock), but we needs just data only not system.
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No, not application, but data of system applications. That would be able to cause problems.
Yes that I said usually we need not to restore data of system application in normal way. Except for tw launcher home (desktop)
Usually people do restore everything and facing issue later by messing system junks.
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Advance restore data will not restore system apps. It will only restore user apps. Like I said this method is quick and simple and I never had any problem. Can save you a lot of time. 20 minutes for a backup must be a very old phone. I have 108 apps on mine and it takes only 5 minutes to backup
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Here thing is totally different, what I know about your recovery guide is no one gave you discredit. When you publish any guide on public forum, sure someone will put their ideas and only that way discussion goes on. Basically public forum is meant for such things. I have wrote many guides having million viewership, thousand thanks, still people suggest me when something better they found, and I love to exchange idea, but it's ultimately you have to decide which one is better. We should have to remain open to discuss on topic we have created.
As far as my comments have concerned, I have discussed point to point why I found other thing is better, if you targeting that then better if you show some nice point to make me convince on your point of view rather complaining to other post. If you targeting else I am sorry.
Does you feel anyone have troll on your post?
I don't think so.
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Ah ok, I was not targeting you at all, I was refering to my other (same)guide on SGS3. I was discredit because I didn't have enough THANKS.
Posted by someone who really has not helped the novice user
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I know the difference between trolling and discussing. Like you said people can make their choice and I beleive Titanium is good and my(it's not really mine I just transfered the information) way is also good. It just depends on the situation.
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Ah ok, I was not targeting you at all, I was refering to my other (same)guide on SGS3. I was discredit because I didn't have enough THANKS.
I know the difference between trolling and discussing. Like you said people can make their choice and I beleive Titanium is good and my(it's not really mine I just transfered the information) way is also good. It just depends on the situation.
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I misunderstood and sorry again.
Yes I never said nandroid is not good, it's definitely best in certain situations. I mean to say overall titanium is cleaner way to restore data particularly when restoring trans rom/device.
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I've just received my Nexus 4 this week, and I am really excited with it.
Nevertheless I have some quick questions to start using my nexus asap...
How do I move files from my previous mobile to this one (e.g. Whatsapp, Contacts, game save data, app data, etc)?
Is there decent improvement using the kernels/rooms when compared to Stock? Which ones you recommend?
Thanks in advance.
mascolel said:
I've just received my Nexus 4 this week, and I am really excited with it.
Nevertheless I have some quick questions to start using my nexus asap...
How do I move files from my previous mobile to this one (e.g. Whatsapp, Contacts, game save data, app data, etc)?
Is there decent improvement using the kernels/rooms when compared to Stock? Which ones you recommend?
Thanks in advance.
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I wouldn't "Move" applications at all, but if you need data and some settings (to some extent), Titanium Backup is going to be your best friend.
Basically
1) Install TiB on old phone, go thru and backup whatever app/data you wish to backup
2) Copy the TitaniumBackup folder from the SD card (or where it stores in media)
3) Copy it over to the N4's /sdcard (or the root of the drive if you plug it in normally to the computer)
4) Install and start up Titanium Backup (may need to point it to the backup folder in preference)
5) then you can go over onto the middle tab, scroll down to the apps you wish to restore data for
PS: To avoid problems, especially for paid apps, install those first from the play store, then restore their data from TitaniumBackup, Restoring an App + Data directly, especially paid apps can run into some problems with the play store.
You should be able to back up and restore your call logs, wifi hot spots, SMS/MMS messages, etc. The pro version can export them as XML data which will be much more compatible if the two OSes are completely different (ie: binary backups of your call log for example might not be compatible with AOSP).
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Far as Kernels go, the stock one is fine, I prefer Bricked (signature) and Franco's is also rather good.
Hey Note'ers!
I am currently on 5.1.1 TekHD custom rom. If I wanted to flash, say Beanstalk - 6.13, will I be able to restore the messages up to exactly the same place I have it now using TB? Will I get all the attachements etc.... ? I understand the setting probably cannot be restored, but that is easily reconfigurable, but does TB restore all apps WITH their respective data between different versions of ROMs? Are there any specials steps to do it?
I just want to make sure before I make that step. Thanks!
before you do anything, make a backup in TWRP.
Titanium Backup is supposed to be able to carry over messages, but this is why you should have a backup. TB is notorious for being a bit squirrely between different ROMs. i would do some research first on google before risking it. you can always revert to backup, though.
panxpany said:
Hey Note'ers!
I am currently on 5.1.1 TekHD custom rom. If I wanted to flash, say Beanstalk - 6.13, will I be able to restore the messages up to exactly the same place I have it now using TB? Will I get all the attachements etc.... ? I understand the setting probably cannot be restored, but that is easily reconfigurable, but does TB restore all apps WITH their respective data between different versions of ROMs? Are there any specials steps to do it?
I just want to make sure before I make that step. Thanks!
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Use xml format for messages and call logs. I move between roms frequently and use tibu for user apps and messages/call logs.
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messages as in texts? or messages as in email?
For texts, I use SMS backup and restore from the play store. Make sure you select to save attachments/emojis and all those things you want. It will create an xml file which you should store somewhere safe. You then use the same software to restore the messages.
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messages as in texts? or messages as in email?
For texts, I use SMS backup and restore from the play store. Make sure you select to save attachments/emojis and all those things you want. It will create an xml file which you should store somewhere safe. You then use the same software to restore the messages.
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Oh, I forgot about that. That is a good solution as everything else is pretty much backed up online those days. Thanks man.