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When I do a backup with RomManager before I flash a new rom does that backup contain all the apps and user data of the apps for when I flash back to it or does it just contain info about the rom and system data?
For example, I take a backup and then clear all system data and cache info before I flash something new. When I go back to the backup file I took with RomManager will it contain all the apps and stuff that I had on my system prior to the data wipe or will I need to restore all the apps individually with Titanium Backup?
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Call Logs, SMS, etc. will be lost.
You need to back those up separately if you wanna save them.
Below are a couple of Apps that work well for this >>
My Back Up (Pro)
SMS Backup & Restore
It does Dave your call log and messages.
It pretty much clones exactly as it is.
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Call logs and SMS I really don't care about, none of it matters to me. I am mostly concerned with having to reinstall all the apps or have to reset all of my launcher preferences and screen layouts.
All that stuff will be saved. I guess if Ur using Rom manager u are using clockwork? I backed up with clockwork and all my apps were still there when I went and restored.
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If you mean you want to restore apps and data on a new ROM then yes you can use tb I use mybackup root.
No you can't restore them from a backup from ROM manager on another ROM thats a backup of your whole system if you restore a backup from rm you will restore the whole ROM you backed up.
Edit: sorry just got the op yes it will be the same way when you backed it up.
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changing nand roms typhon>hyperdroid how to have all programs, and contacts moved in?
Hi, I'm thinking to change Thyphoons cm7 mod in to hyperdroid, is there any way to move all the programs and contacts i have in my phone to new rom ?
poisas said:
Hi, I'm thinking to change Thyphoons cm7 mod in to hyperdroid, is there any way to move all the programs and contacts i have in my phone to new rom ?
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Apps - Titanium backup
Contacts, SMS, Call logs - Super backup (I think that's its name)
I prefer Mybackup, it does apps plus their data as well as SMS/MMS, call logs, browser faves and so on. Pretty much all in one, I bought the paid version and use it when upgrading TBD roms.
Market link is here for the free version: MyBackup
Even better yet and its free make a backup using recovery . I use that all the time and it works perfectly
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elesbb said:
Even better yet and its free make a backup using recovery . I use that all the time and it works perfectly
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That is a way but that does not work when transitioning to a different rom.
chrisrj28 said:
That is a way but that does not work when transitioning to a different rom.
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Works fine for me when i was test driving different ROMs . worked when i went from CM7 Hyperdroid to SENSATION Sense ROMs to SHARKIE's ROM , then to an MIUI ROM then to ICS ROM .. just use advanced restore and only restore data partition .
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Plus he's/she's going from a CM7 ROM to another CM7 ROM i am 100% sure CWM recovery's restore/backup option will work just perfectly
elesbb said:
Works fine for me when i was test driving different ROMs . worked when i went from CM7 Hyperdroid to SENSATION Sense ROMs to SHARKIE's ROM , then to an MIUI ROM then to ICS ROM .. just use advanced restore and only restore data partition .
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Plus he's/she's going from a CM7 ROM to another CM7 ROM i am 100% sure CWM recovery's restore/backup option will work just perfectly
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That's good, I wasn't sure whether it would work to restore the data partition and SD EXT partition on another ROM
Nigeldg said:
That's good, I wasn't sure whether it would work to restore the data partition and SD EXT partition on another ROM
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Yeah as long as you choose advanced restore > restore data . it will restore everything . Including sd ext partitions and .android-secure .. I watched it backup and since i dont have a sd ext partition it skipped it . so if it were there it would back it up . i love the cwm recovery backup and restore . the only problem i had was with my widgets going from a CM7 ROM to an MIUI ROM . but as far as stability and everything it all worked my contacts were there and my data .
Fantastic, thanks for the info. Using Titanium Backup is extremely annoying when restoring apps; although can you backup only the data partition then restore that at a later date? Every time I make a CWM backup it takes ages to do, so this would make things much easier.
Nigeldg said:
Fantastic, thanks for the info. Using Titanium Backup is extremely annoying when restoring apps; although can you backup only the data partition then restore that at a later date? Every time I make a CWM backup it takes ages to do, so this would make things much easier.
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Yes making a CWM backup does take some time xP i wish there were an "advanced backup" menu which would allow one to simply backup data only since thats all i end up restoring anyhow . and yes agreed Titanium Backup sucks -.- lol . and yes you can make a backup now and if your little heart desires restore it 20 years from now but all in all i prefer CWM backup over any app on the market . yes ANY app .
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Willy318is said:
!!! Seems suspicious -- lol
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I don't understand.
it might working but sometimes some data wont work well with new firmware
but you seem to forget one bigggggg step.... to backup the old data using cwm...
edan1979 said:
it might working but sometimes some data wont work well with new firmware
but you seem to forget one bigggggg step.... to backup the old data using cwm...
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Yes I wrote in red. There MIGHT have problem between versions. If you're on 4.0 and you flash 4.1. But even so I did it many time without problems
I didn't separate CWM & TWRP for the backup because it's basically same thing.
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I don't understand.
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Sorry, I just felt it could not be that easy, ROMs are being heavily optimized and tweaked from Dev-to-Dev, let alone the Official releases with different bases and Radios, so I just think that doing your method might pick-up some old cranky stuff from earlier backups, but yet again, its just my theory, which might be totally messed up
Will give it a shot though, it could save me hours.
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Sorry, I just felt it could not be that easy, ROMs are being heavily optimized and tweaked from Dev-to-Dev, let alone the Official releases with different bases and Radios, so I just think that doing your method might pick-up some old cranky stuff from earlier backups, but yet again, its just my theory, which might be totally messed up
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The "Restore Data" in CWM or TWRP will restore your apps/contacts/sms/etc.. But, for example if you restore a backup that had your gmail but your new ROM doesn't have gmail. The restore will just skip it.
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Will give it a shot though, it could save me hours.
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You won't regret it.
For restoring data Titanium OR similar application is better than Nandroid
Another advantage of Titanium is schedular backup
Above said method you need to backup just before flashing ROM, while if you schedule titanium you will ready to go anytime.
As well titanium data restore is quite clear then data restore from nandroid.
Nandroid is best for return to point where you were in case you messup things while testing something.
dr.ketan said:
For restoring data Titanium OR similar application is better than Nandroid
Another advantage of Titanium is schedular backup
Above said method you need to backup just before flashing ROM, while if you schedule titanium you will ready to go anytime.
As well titanium data restore is quite clear then data restore from nandroid.
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For restoring data Titanium OR similar application is better than Nandroid
Another advantage of Titanium is schedular backup
Above said method you need to backup just before flashing ROM, while if you schedule titanium you will ready to go anytime.
As well titanium data restore is quite clear then data restore from nandroid.
Nandroid is best for return to point where you were in case you messup things while testing something.
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I think they both have their advantages. Titanium will only restore apps but the method above will restore Apps/contacts/sms/gmail acounts/etc...
Titanium can restore contacts, bookmarks call logs as well sms too
And sms call logs are store in xml which is more clean when you restore trans OS./device
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The reason I only use titanium for restoring: I heard it is the cleanest, and as mentioned above nandroid restoring restores some weird **** from old roms
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I have transfered my sms contacts from galaxy S - S2 - note1 and now on note2 (froyo to JB)
I still have some sms. 3yr old and titanium never failed to restore
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klect said:
The reason I only use titanium for restoring: I heard it is the cleanest, and as mentioned above nandroid restoring restores some weird **** from old roms
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Exactly, titanium restore only what you want. And it's totally under your control, you can mess only if you don't know how to use it.
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dr.ketan said:
I have transfered my sms contacts from galaxy S - S2 - note1 and now on note2 (froyo to JB)
I still have some sms. 3yr old and titanium never failed to restore
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Exactly, titanium restore only what you want. And it's totally under your control, you can mess only if you don't know how to use it.
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Yes when restoring between devices or versions(ICS to JB etc..) The OP method is not the best. But if you flash a lot of ROMs all the same version this method is very quick and trouble free.
Yes, this method is quick, but I wouldn't use it for everyday ROM, maybe for testing etc. With Titanium you can backup/restore only USER apps. I think it is bad idea to restore system apps' data. So still the "cleanest" way is to back up everything with Titanium, flash ROM and then install Titanium and restore selected user apps+data.
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this method is very quick and trouble free.
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Not convincing,
See for nandroid you have to make recent backup if you want to have backup of latest stuff like SMS, call logs, newly installed App, contacts
AFAIK nandroid takes nearly 20 min to backup (depends on data it may take more)
Now again restoring as per you said takes 15 min for data.
For titanium if you have schedule, need not to make backup before flashing, even you want to make just run backup of modified data and it will finish in 1-2 min.
For me titanium takes just 15 min to restore
- >115 user app
- Contacts, SMS,Settings,Launcher home (desktop),Bookmarks
so it is more faster then nandroid ultimately
Nandroid is the choice as i said earlier,
If your device is working perfect just make nandroid, Try you want to test anything and if you are not happy with testing just restore Nandroid (full) you have made just before test and you are back.
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dalanik said:
Yes, this method is quick, but I wouldn't use it for everyday ROM, maybe for testing etc. With Titanium you can backup/restore only USER apps. I think it is bad idea to restore system apps' data. So still the "cleanest" way is to back up everything with Titanium, flash ROM and then install Titanium and restore selected user apps+data.
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But we never need to restore system application
Best scenario in titanium is restore 'Missing application with data', this will by default excludes any system application (from previous OS and absent in new ROM) still you will have choice to uncheck any application you don't want.
Contacts,settings - you can restore just data (green colored) and won't replace system files
while call log, SMS, browser (yellow color) are just xml format and best to restore without any issue
Just you need system data is only TW launche(stock), but we needs just data only not system.
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But we never need to restore system application
Best scenario in titanium is restore 'Missing application with data', this will by default excludes any system application (from previous OS and absent in new ROM) still you will have choice to uncheck any application you don't want.
Contacts,settings - you can restore just data (green colored) and won't replace system files
while call log, SMS, browser (yellow color) are just xml format and best to restore without any issue
Just you need system data is only TW launche(stock), but we needs just data only not system.
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No, not application, but data of system applications. That would be able to cause problems.
Yes that I said usually we need not to restore data of system application in normal way. Except for tw launcher home (desktop)
Usually people do restore everything and facing issue later by messing system junks.
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Advance restore data will not restore system apps. It will only restore user apps. Like I said this method is quick and simple and I never had any problem. Can save you a lot of time. 20 minutes for a backup must be a very old phone. I have 108 apps on mine and it takes only 5 minutes to backup
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Here thing is totally different, what I know about your recovery guide is no one gave you discredit. When you publish any guide on public forum, sure someone will put their ideas and only that way discussion goes on. Basically public forum is meant for such things. I have wrote many guides having million viewership, thousand thanks, still people suggest me when something better they found, and I love to exchange idea, but it's ultimately you have to decide which one is better. We should have to remain open to discuss on topic we have created.
As far as my comments have concerned, I have discussed point to point why I found other thing is better, if you targeting that then better if you show some nice point to make me convince on your point of view rather complaining to other post. If you targeting else I am sorry.
Does you feel anyone have troll on your post?
I don't think so.
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Ah ok, I was not targeting you at all, I was refering to my other (same)guide on SGS3. I was discredit because I didn't have enough THANKS.
Posted by someone who really has not helped the novice user
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I know the difference between trolling and discussing. Like you said people can make their choice and I beleive Titanium is good and my(it's not really mine I just transfered the information) way is also good. It just depends on the situation.
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Ah ok, I was not targeting you at all, I was refering to my other (same)guide on SGS3. I was discredit because I didn't have enough THANKS.
I know the difference between trolling and discussing. Like you said people can make their choice and I beleive Titanium is good and my(it's not really mine I just transfered the information) way is also good. It just depends on the situation.
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I misunderstood and sorry again.
Yes I never said nandroid is not good, it's definitely best in certain situations. I mean to say overall titanium is cleaner way to restore data particularly when restoring trans rom/device.
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So i mada nandroid backup but unchecked "data" (its was about 6 gb?!) So i only backed up "system" and some other important stuff,so i wonder,why is "data" so big? Is it neccessary to backup? Or is it just the photos,apps and its data etc?
It includes everything; app data, texts, call logs, log in info, EVERYTHING. System only backs up the actual operating system (ROM)
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A nandroid is kinda useless without the data portion.
metalfan78 said:
It includes everything; app data, texts, call logs, log in info, EVERYTHING. System only backs up the actual operating system (ROM)
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A nandroid is kinda useless without the data portion.
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No it isn't, if you have a TiBu its fine, either restore the backup then flash update.zip from TiBu or go in and restore.
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If you want to restore your rom to the state it was before a flash or a wipe, then 'data' is needed, so I consider a nandroid useless without it.
metalfan78 said:
If you want to restore your rom to the state it was before a flash or a wipe, then 'data' is needed, so I consider a nandroid useless without it.
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Maybe I'd you are using strictly nandroid, but using a nandroid of system+TiBu is certainly not useless.
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Rakuu said:
Maybe I'd you are using strictly nandroid, but using a nandroid of system+TiBu is certainly not useless.
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Yeah i already have a backup of my apps with TiBu
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So i mada nandroid backup but unchecked "data" (its was about 6 gb?!) So i only backed up "system" and some other important stuff,so i wonder,why is "data" so big? Is it neccessary to backup? Or is it just the photos,apps and its data etc?
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Data contains all the user apps and its settings. And it also contains all the system settings and customizations. With TiBu you only can backup the user apps and its settings. System + TiBu kind of works, but system + data is much better.
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Data contains all the user apps and its settings. And it also contains all the system settings and customizations. With TiBu you only can backup the user apps and its settings. System + TiBu kind of works, but system + data is much better.
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You can backup contacts, call logs, data usage, calendar storage, messages, system settings, and some others I forgot, I'd say doing a full TiBu backup is a decent alternative to a /data backup
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You can backup contacts, call logs, data usage, calendar storage, messages, system settings, and some others I forgot, I'd say doing a full TiBu backup is a decent alternative to a /data backup
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Yeah that's right, but I think that a backup of the data partition contains just everything and is "easily" done. With TiBu, you have to backup every little detail and app manually.
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Yeah that's right, but I think that a backup of the data partition contains just everything and is "easily" done. With TiBu, you have to backup every little detail and app manually.
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There's a batch actions option... Also I have mine automatically going every couple days.
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There's a batch actions option... Also I have mine automatically going every couple days.
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At least with TiBu, he would learn, which app is eating the most of the 6 GB I never managed to backup/restore account data with TiBu (phone book, calendar). I'm not using Google. I only use it to transport my favourite apps to different ROMS. Nandroid is my safe harbour, because it heals all problems. Maybe a matter of taste
TiBu and nandroid are very different animals........
Nandroid will, as everybody knows, restore a fully working OS to a device (including apps, data & settings).
TiBu will allow you to restore apps and data onto a new ROM......but this capability has to be used with caution.....
Restoring apps on their own usually works without issue......but if you try to restore app data as well......especially onto a different android version, you *could* end up with system instability and apps force closing etc.......
Some of the data created/used by some (but not all) apps is OS version specific *and* in some cases framework specific.
Each option is there to make a specific type of backup which is used in a specific set of circumstances.....
Nandroid is the 'cure all, emergency recovery' option.
TiBu is the 'make things quicker/easier for normal rom flash' option......
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Hey Note'ers!
I am currently on 5.1.1 TekHD custom rom. If I wanted to flash, say Beanstalk - 6.13, will I be able to restore the messages up to exactly the same place I have it now using TB? Will I get all the attachements etc.... ? I understand the setting probably cannot be restored, but that is easily reconfigurable, but does TB restore all apps WITH their respective data between different versions of ROMs? Are there any specials steps to do it?
I just want to make sure before I make that step. Thanks!
before you do anything, make a backup in TWRP.
Titanium Backup is supposed to be able to carry over messages, but this is why you should have a backup. TB is notorious for being a bit squirrely between different ROMs. i would do some research first on google before risking it. you can always revert to backup, though.
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Hey Note'ers!
I am currently on 5.1.1 TekHD custom rom. If I wanted to flash, say Beanstalk - 6.13, will I be able to restore the messages up to exactly the same place I have it now using TB? Will I get all the attachements etc.... ? I understand the setting probably cannot be restored, but that is easily reconfigurable, but does TB restore all apps WITH their respective data between different versions of ROMs? Are there any specials steps to do it?
I just want to make sure before I make that step. Thanks!
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Use xml format for messages and call logs. I move between roms frequently and use tibu for user apps and messages/call logs.
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messages as in texts? or messages as in email?
For texts, I use SMS backup and restore from the play store. Make sure you select to save attachments/emojis and all those things you want. It will create an xml file which you should store somewhere safe. You then use the same software to restore the messages.
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messages as in texts? or messages as in email?
For texts, I use SMS backup and restore from the play store. Make sure you select to save attachments/emojis and all those things you want. It will create an xml file which you should store somewhere safe. You then use the same software to restore the messages.
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Oh, I forgot about that. That is a good solution as everything else is pretty much backed up online those days. Thanks man.