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Do RomManager backups backup the apps and info or just the rom?

When I do a backup with RomManager before I flash a new rom does that backup contain all the apps and user data of the apps for when I flash back to it or does it just contain info about the rom and system data?
For example, I take a backup and then clear all system data and cache info before I flash something new. When I go back to the backup file I took with RomManager will it contain all the apps and stuff that I had on my system prior to the data wipe or will I need to restore all the apps individually with Titanium Backup?

Yes!
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Call Logs, SMS, etc. will be lost.
You need to back those up separately if you wanna save them.
Below are a couple of Apps that work well for this >>
My Back Up (Pro)
SMS Backup & Restore

It does Dave your call log and messages.
It pretty much clones exactly as it is.
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Call logs and SMS I really don't care about, none of it matters to me. I am mostly concerned with having to reinstall all the apps or have to reset all of my launcher preferences and screen layouts.

All that stuff will be saved. I guess if Ur using Rom manager u are using clockwork? I backed up with clockwork and all my apps were still there when I went and restored.
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If you mean you want to restore apps and data on a new ROM then yes you can use tb I use mybackup root.
No you can't restore them from a backup from ROM manager on another ROM thats a backup of your whole system if you restore a backup from rm you will restore the whole ROM you backed up.
Edit: sorry just got the op yes it will be the same way when you backed it up.
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[Q] hand holding needed for changing ROMs

I have not changed ROMs before. IMHO the procedure is simple enough. I am not worried about that step at all. The question is, What am I left with afterward.
What data, apps, etc. do I loose? Do I need to recover them from a back up? If so, what parts do I need to recover?
Also, from what I have read, if the ROMs are closely related, all the data and apps are preserved.
Can some one explain/comment on this?
I know this is a very nubbie question. I'm trying to minimize time consuming mistakes.

U should always wipe data with changing roms or u might end up with lots of fcs. While all the roms are similar and contain the same basic apps, some roms are gonna have different and new apps than others. I recomend backing up the apps that u have on ur current rom with TB and once u install a different rom, all u have to do is download TB from the market and install the apps u once backed up
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So all the apps I downloaded from market will then need to be reinstalled.
Do I loose the phone logs, all texts, contacts (but linked to gmail)?
I am unclear what "data" is stored where. What counts are "data" in the backups. Is application data backed up with "data", or included w/ the "apps" backup?
I am backed up with TB. (both data and apps).
I have also backed w/ CWM.
I assume/hope my identity (phone#, etc.) is tied to something like a MAC address that will not be wiped.

your identity is not wiped, are you using a sprint phone?

You should backup 2 ways at least, a nandroid with CWM and maybe Titanium Backup. Then follow the instructions of the ROM you are installing. Most no longer require wipes. After you flash the ROM if something did not restore properly just shut down, boot into CWM. Go to backup and restore, go to advanced restore data from your last backup. All should be restored.
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I am on Sprint.
I am a bit confused on the CWM recovery, never having actually used it to restore anything. When i go to the restore utility in CWM, I see each of the backups listed. Not sure if I get the option of what to restore.
I may or may not want to restore the old ROM depending on the outcome of the new ROM flash.

But since u gonna issues TB all u have to do is jst download it from the market and the reinstall the apps u want back. U see, instead of searching for them on the market, u can jst install them from TB. And u won't losse contacts or emails if u sync them with gmail
labumm said:
So all the apps I downloaded from market will then need to be reinstalled.
Do I loose the phone logs, all texts, contacts (but linked to gmail)?
I am unclear what "data" is stored where. What counts are "data" in the backups. Is application data backed up with "data", or included w/ the "apps" backup?
I am backed up with TB. (both data and apps).
I have also backed w/ CWM.
I assume/hope my identity (phone#, etc.) is tied to something like a MAC address that will not be wiped.
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My phone is Captivating, Fascinating, Epic and also LEGENDARY!!

If you are changing ROMs on the same version of firmware, like Gingerbread to Gingerbread, you can backup right before flashing (and you should), then when you flash the new ROM it may or may not preserve your data which is apps, contacts, call logs...IF it fails to restore properly you can do a factory data reset in CWM which will clean any bad restore, then do an ADVANCED RESTORE DATA and pick the newest one. They are date coded. It will ask you to confirm before doing it. This will only restore 3rd party apps and data like call logs, wifi links, email accounts and stuff like that.

The deed is done. The SMS messages do not restore. I tried to pick and choose apps to restore. Then restored all data.
The phone is functional, however. That was my main concern.
Thanks to all who read and responded.
now CleanGB 18

Duh.
Needed to reboot for all restored settings to appear.

To refresh, from what version did you move into? WHat do you have now?

labumm said:
Duh.
Needed to reboot for all restored settings to appear.
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Ha, was just about to tell you that. Glad you are up and running.
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I am a tiny bit concerned that I have just restored a bunch of un-needed crap onto my phone, from the TB backup.
Anyone know what the colors and icons of the files in TB signify?
I was looking for help in the tiki, but I don't see a concise explanation.
http://matrixrewriter.com/wiki/tiki-index.php
I presume I would not accidently reinstall carrier IQ and other un-fixes unintentionally with TB by restoring apps and data.

[Guide]Easily recover data/apps/contacts/etc.. after flashing new ROM(full wipe)

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!!! Seems suspicious -- lol

Willy318is said:
!!! Seems suspicious -- lol
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I don't understand.

it might working but sometimes some data wont work well with new firmware
but you seem to forget one bigggggg step.... to backup the old data using cwm...

edan1979 said:
it might working but sometimes some data wont work well with new firmware
but you seem to forget one bigggggg step.... to backup the old data using cwm...
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Yes I wrote in red. There MIGHT have problem between versions. If you're on 4.0 and you flash 4.1. But even so I did it many time without problems
I didn't separate CWM & TWRP for the backup because it's basically same thing.

Kremata said:
I don't understand.
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Sorry, I just felt it could not be that easy, ROMs are being heavily optimized and tweaked from Dev-to-Dev, let alone the Official releases with different bases and Radios, so I just think that doing your method might pick-up some old cranky stuff from earlier backups, but yet again, its just my theory, which might be totally messed up
Will give it a shot though, it could save me hours.

Willy318is said:
Sorry, I just felt it could not be that easy, ROMs are being heavily optimized and tweaked from Dev-to-Dev, let alone the Official releases with different bases and Radios, so I just think that doing your method might pick-up some old cranky stuff from earlier backups, but yet again, its just my theory, which might be totally messed up
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The "Restore Data" in CWM or TWRP will restore your apps/contacts/sms/etc.. But, for example if you restore a backup that had your gmail but your new ROM doesn't have gmail. The restore will just skip it.
Willy318is said:
Will give it a shot though, it could save me hours.
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You won't regret it.

For restoring data Titanium OR similar application is better than Nandroid
Another advantage of Titanium is schedular backup
Above said method you need to backup just before flashing ROM, while if you schedule titanium you will ready to go anytime.
As well titanium data restore is quite clear then data restore from nandroid.
Nandroid is best for return to point where you were in case you messup things while testing something.

dr.ketan said:
For restoring data Titanium OR similar application is better than Nandroid
Another advantage of Titanium is schedular backup
Above said method you need to backup just before flashing ROM, while if you schedule titanium you will ready to go anytime.
As well titanium data restore is quite clear then data restore from nandroid.
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For restoring data Titanium OR similar application is better than Nandroid
Another advantage of Titanium is schedular backup
Above said method you need to backup just before flashing ROM, while if you schedule titanium you will ready to go anytime.
As well titanium data restore is quite clear then data restore from nandroid.
Nandroid is best for return to point where you were in case you messup things while testing something.
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I think they both have their advantages. Titanium will only restore apps but the method above will restore Apps/contacts/sms/gmail acounts/etc...

Titanium can restore contacts, bookmarks call logs as well sms too
And sms call logs are store in xml which is more clean when you restore trans OS./device
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The reason I only use titanium for restoring: I heard it is the cleanest, and as mentioned above nandroid restoring restores some weird **** from old roms
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I have transfered my sms contacts from galaxy S - S2 - note1 and now on note2 (froyo to JB)
I still have some sms. 3yr old and titanium never failed to restore
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klect said:
The reason I only use titanium for restoring: I heard it is the cleanest, and as mentioned above nandroid restoring restores some weird **** from old roms
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Exactly, titanium restore only what you want. And it's totally under your control, you can mess only if you don't know how to use it.
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dr.ketan said:
I have transfered my sms contacts from galaxy S - S2 - note1 and now on note2 (froyo to JB)
I still have some sms. 3yr old and titanium never failed to restore
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Exactly, titanium restore only what you want. And it's totally under your control, you can mess only if you don't know how to use it.
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Yes when restoring between devices or versions(ICS to JB etc..) The OP method is not the best. But if you flash a lot of ROMs all the same version this method is very quick and trouble free.

Yes, this method is quick, but I wouldn't use it for everyday ROM, maybe for testing etc. With Titanium you can backup/restore only USER apps. I think it is bad idea to restore system apps' data. So still the "cleanest" way is to back up everything with Titanium, flash ROM and then install Titanium and restore selected user apps+data.

Kremata said:
this method is very quick and trouble free.
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Not convincing,
See for nandroid you have to make recent backup if you want to have backup of latest stuff like SMS, call logs, newly installed App, contacts
AFAIK nandroid takes nearly 20 min to backup (depends on data it may take more)
Now again restoring as per you said takes 15 min for data.
For titanium if you have schedule, need not to make backup before flashing, even you want to make just run backup of modified data and it will finish in 1-2 min.
For me titanium takes just 15 min to restore
- >115 user app
- Contacts, SMS,Settings,Launcher home (desktop),Bookmarks
so it is more faster then nandroid ultimately
Nandroid is the choice as i said earlier,
If your device is working perfect just make nandroid, Try you want to test anything and if you are not happy with testing just restore Nandroid (full) you have made just before test and you are back.
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dalanik said:
Yes, this method is quick, but I wouldn't use it for everyday ROM, maybe for testing etc. With Titanium you can backup/restore only USER apps. I think it is bad idea to restore system apps' data. So still the "cleanest" way is to back up everything with Titanium, flash ROM and then install Titanium and restore selected user apps+data.
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But we never need to restore system application
Best scenario in titanium is restore 'Missing application with data', this will by default excludes any system application (from previous OS and absent in new ROM) still you will have choice to uncheck any application you don't want.
Contacts,settings - you can restore just data (green colored) and won't replace system files
while call log, SMS, browser (yellow color) are just xml format and best to restore without any issue
Just you need system data is only TW launche(stock), but we needs just data only not system.

dr.ketan said:
But we never need to restore system application
Best scenario in titanium is restore 'Missing application with data', this will by default excludes any system application (from previous OS and absent in new ROM) still you will have choice to uncheck any application you don't want.
Contacts,settings - you can restore just data (green colored) and won't replace system files
while call log, SMS, browser (yellow color) are just xml format and best to restore without any issue
Just you need system data is only TW launche(stock), but we needs just data only not system.
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No, not application, but data of system applications. That would be able to cause problems.

Yes that I said usually we need not to restore data of system application in normal way. Except for tw launcher home (desktop)
Usually people do restore everything and facing issue later by messing system junks.
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Advance restore data will not restore system apps. It will only restore user apps. Like I said this method is quick and simple and I never had any problem. Can save you a lot of time. 20 minutes for a backup must be a very old phone. I have 108 apps on mine and it takes only 5 minutes to backup

dr.ketan said:
Here thing is totally different, what I know about your recovery guide is no one gave you discredit. When you publish any guide on public forum, sure someone will put their ideas and only that way discussion goes on. Basically public forum is meant for such things. I have wrote many guides having million viewership, thousand thanks, still people suggest me when something better they found, and I love to exchange idea, but it's ultimately you have to decide which one is better. We should have to remain open to discuss on topic we have created.
As far as my comments have concerned, I have discussed point to point why I found other thing is better, if you targeting that then better if you show some nice point to make me convince on your point of view rather complaining to other post. If you targeting else I am sorry.
Does you feel anyone have troll on your post?
I don't think so.
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Ah ok, I was not targeting you at all, I was refering to my other (same)guide on SGS3. I was discredit because I didn't have enough THANKS.
Posted by someone who really has not helped the novice user
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I know the difference between trolling and discussing. Like you said people can make their choice and I beleive Titanium is good and my(it's not really mine I just transfered the information) way is also good. It just depends on the situation.

Kremata said:
Ah ok, I was not targeting you at all, I was refering to my other (same)guide on SGS3. I was discredit because I didn't have enough THANKS.
I know the difference between trolling and discussing. Like you said people can make their choice and I beleive Titanium is good and my(it's not really mine I just transfered the information) way is also good. It just depends on the situation.
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I misunderstood and sorry again.
Yes I never said nandroid is not good, it's definitely best in certain situations. I mean to say overall titanium is cleaner way to restore data particularly when restoring trans rom/device.
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Different Backup Methods

I was hoping to learn the differences between certain backup methods. The most common i saw is via recovery (in my case twrp), via titanium backup and another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
First, in terms of "backup coverage" how do they compare to one another? Secondly, which among the three would most put ur phone back the way it was before u wipe or factory reset it
I hope you could input your opinions on this and suggestions.
Thanks in advance!
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A backup through recovery is a called a nandroid. This backs up everything on your phone including your ROM, kernel, apps, settings, etc. This will allow you to restore back to the previous state of your phone after doing a full wipe.
Titanium backup only backs up your apps and app data. This is useful when you want to switch ROMs and restore your apps in the new ROM.
Usually when switching ROMs I first use titanium backup, then I create a nandroid backup, and finally I flash the ROM. If I like the ROM I use titanium to restore the apps that I previously backed up, and if I don't like the ROM I restore my nandroid
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Doing a backup with twrp, cwm or thru adb (nandroid backups) are basically image files of your phone at any given moment in time. If you restore one of these backups your restoring your phone to exactly how it was at that moment in time. Titanium backup and Helium backup just backup cached data at that particular moment in time. Using these apps will only restore the data you specified when you did the backup and nothing else. Say you borked an install of a ROM, Titanium backup would be of no use in getting your phone working again as it only has data and not a system image. You would need the images backed up by twrp to get the phone working again then you could use the titanium backups to restore any newer data saved if say you used an old twrp backup.

whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!

vinz_bangiz said:
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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With the pro version u can run a batch backup of all apps.
To do this open the app, press the menu button in the top tight corner, and select Batch.
Then choose Backup all user apps. From there you can select/deselect apps. When you are done choosing the apps that you would like to backup, click on the green check mark in the top right corner to start the backup.

vinz_bangiz said:
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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I stopped using Titanium and switched to Helium a while back and can't really remember how Ti works exactly. I do know you should never restore system apps data just user apps data so I don't even bother backing up systems apps. I think with Ti I would just do an initial backup of all user data and apps and then periodically do a backup of newer user data and apps, or something to that effect in the menu. I do like Helium better as its interface is better, never could figure out how to backup or restore sms, call logs and the dictionary using Ti. Helium is much more straight forward and simpler (not as many options) and it does backups on a set schedule to my box account. I'm sure you can do all that with Ti too it was just not a very clean app.

thanks again for the replies..
@ chromium96
i think it is the same as clicking the box with check icon beside the menu, it brings me to the page the same as where you are leading me to but in just one click. Though im not so sure if it is really the same one.
I did a backup now but made a user app + system data.
kzoodroid mentioned not to backup system. Should I really not backup the system? Im quite confused with the terminologies of TI coz it says backup "user apps". Does this only refer to the apps and not the settings or data in my phone? does the backup "system data" refer to the settings and other data on my phone? if I choose only backup "user apps", would this only backup the apps and nothing else?
@ kzoodroid
could you explain further why I should never backup systems apps?
Lastly, is Helium really better than TI? or it depends on user preference?
Thanks again!

there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom

stremax said:
there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom
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Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?

vinz_bangiz said:
Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?
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right man,
only back-up user apps and data, if you like you can also back-up call log and messages, I usually do this, so when I flash a new rom I usually restore apps +apps data, messages and call log via Tb

vinz_bangiz said:
another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
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I found the ADB backup doesn't work as well as the other methods. I found some apps didn't seem to get backed up, and at least one didn't work after restoring (though this could be because I used Titanium Backup to restore the app from the ADB backup file).

Upgrading to Paranoidandroid with Android 4.3, best method?

I've been searching around, but can't really find clear information that I understand about all the steps involved in upgrading paranoidandroid to the newer version with Android 4.3.
1) The upgrade requires a factory reset. It I do this from TWRP am I going to lose my nandroids and titanium backups on the sdcard partition? Do I need to backup everything externally first?
2) When I used Titanium to restore my apps and data, what option do I select? Won't "restore all apps with data" include system data that might not be compatible with 4.3? On the other hand won't "restore missing apps with data" not include some data (like text messages) that I want?
3) It seems like, from reading around, that Titanium backup is having mixed results for restoring apps in 4.3. Is there a better method for backing up and restoring apps and data after the upgrade to paranoidandroid with 4.3?
Thanks for any help.

Just wipe data, cache and dalvik cache. Upgrade your radio and bootloader and you're ready to go. You wont lose data on your internal storage.
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Thibaultvw said:
Just wipe data, cache and dalvik cache. Upgrade your radio and bootloader and you're ready to go. You wont lose data on your internal storage.
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Thanks.
What about restoring my apps and data? Any suggestions about my questions in the op regarding Titanium or another method?

You can safely restore all user apps including data.
As for the system data you should only restore the special TiBu backups like call logs, messages, WiFi access points etc. (Those with the TiBu icon).
Some system apps may work with data restored from an older/other version, but it's a gamble.

Holer Togni said:
You can safely restore all user apps including data.
As for the system data you should only restore the special TiBu backups like call logs, messages, WiFi access points etc. (Those with the TiBu icon).
Some system apps may work with data restored from an older/other version, but it's a gamble.
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Thanks.
I guess part of what seems like it should be obvious, but is confusing to me is that I don't see an option in Titanium to restore only user apps. The closest seems like the option to restore "all missing apps." Is there some other option that I'm not seeing? Do I have to do it restore each app manually, to avoid restoring system apps?

cb474 said:
Thanks.
I guess part of what seems like it should be obvious, but is confusing to me is that I don't see an option in Titanium to restore only user apps. The closest seems like the option to restore "all missing apps." Is there some other option that I'm not seeing? Do I have to do it restore each app manually, to avoid restoring system apps?
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When you backup choose "backup all user apps" and when you restore choose "restore missing apps with data". That will only restore user apps since you didn't backup the system apps in the first place.
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Chromium_ said:
When you backup choose "backup all user apps" and when you restore choose "restore missing apps with data". That will only restore user apps since you didn't backup the system apps in the first place.
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That's a good idea. I already backed up my system apps and data, some of which I want, like messages, etc. Is there any other way to only restore user apps, given I have the system apps backed up already? Or do I just have to move my backups somewhere (to save the system stuff) and then do it the way you suggest?

cb474 said:
That's a good idea. I already backed up my system apps and data, some of which I want, like messages, etc. Is there any other way to only restore user apps, given I have the system apps backed up already? Or do I just have to move my backups somewhere (to save the system stuff) and then do it the way you suggest?
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Well when you select "restore all missing apps", it'll bring up another screen where you can deselect what you don't want restored. On that screen you also have an option to "Exclude system apks".
Edit: I'm 95% sure that the "Restore all missing apps" only restores user apps/data. So you don't have to worry about system stuff being restored when you choose this.
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Chromium_ said:
Well when you select "restore all missing apps", it'll bring up another screen where you can deselect what you don't want restored. On that screen you also have an option to "Exclude system apks".
Edit: I'm 95% sure that the "Restore all missing apps" only restores user apps/data. So you don't have to worry about system stuff being restored when you choose this.
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Okay, thanks. I'll take a look at that and try to make my way forward.

Holer Togni said:
As for the system data you should only restore the special TiBu backups like call logs, messages, WiFi access points etc. (Those with the TiBu icon).
Some system apps may work with data restored from an older/other version, but it's a gamble.
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Do you know, when restoring system data from the 4.2 version of Paranoidandroid to the 4.3 version, should I used the snapshot or xml option in Titanium? Thanks.

I used the XML data and didn't have any problems.

Holer Togni said:
I used the XML data and didn't have any problems.
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Thanks. It worked for me too.
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For anyone else interested in the topic of this thread, per some of the other above discussion, I found that using "restore missing apps and data" in Titanium doesn't just restore user dowloaded apps, but also some leftover apps that I guess were part of Android 4.2, but don't exist in 4.3. So you have to go through the list and be careful to uncheck things that are no longer part of 4.3 or would replace an newer version of some system related thing, with an older version.
I also found when restoring system data, that it wasn't good enough to only restore items labeled with the Titanium icon. There were some things like contacts storage and calendar storage that I wanted the data from and were not labeled this way. So you have to be careful to get those things but only restore data and not the old version of the app.
In the end, it was relatively easy, but a little tricky and I felt like I was guessing at times about what would give me what I wanted and would be safe to restore.
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I didn't do this, but I wondered if it would be safe to restore paranoid preferences with Titanium? Also is there anything that would restore things like how I had the quick settings panel set up and some of my general system settings like that? Or am I stuck just redoing those things manually?