[Q] HD2 buttons slowly stopped working - HD2 General

Hey gurus!
I have had my HD2 since opening day! Actually tmobile replaced it after a bit because of some defect (cant remember). I have since unlocked and installed gingerbread and then ice cream. The buttons had stopped being very responsive since WM 6.5. The power button has since stopped working and the other buttons are hit and miss. i really liked gingerbread and wanted to move back but want my phone to be useful. I am thinking I have to replace the hardware (digitizer?). Does anyone have a good guide (set of instructions) that might be able to assist me with this. I want to keep the phone and fix it myself. I have searched the internets and found a few things. I have been paroozing these forums for a long time now and trust you guys most. Any recommendations are welcome. I am a L1 Linux admin so am not the biggest noob ever....just a noob. I say that so you might be able to judge my tech ability.
Thanks in advance for the assist.
Dave

You don't have to replace digitizer in order to get your hardware buttons(Call, Home, Menu, Back, End/Power) work again: indeed you have to remove combo(LCD+digitizer/touchscreen) from the chassis(after taking apart your hd2) in order to replace hardware buttons flex(this is located between chassis and combo).
This is no simple action, but watching some videos(try to watch as more as you can) and with attention&care you'll finally get the job done.
Good luck!:fingers-crossed:

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Pointers required for removing slow O2 software (please!)

Hi guys, great forum.
I must admit to being rather nieve and lost in all the technical stuff! Im a newbie to the XDA world, and so far Im loving it!
I bought my O2 XDA mini s on ebay, at just over 2 months old. Its in perfect condition, but when I try to remove the O2 software, it's not on the list... but its definately still on there!
Should I let my battery run out and reboot it?
Also it wont link with the outlook on my pc (installed from the cd) so it looks like its gonna take me 3 weeks of typing to put all my contacts in to it!
Can someone point me in the right direction for a thread? Or is there a good site for newbies to look at in layman's terms?
Any help would be extremely well recieved!
Cheers
Hi Gary
sorry mate can't help but noticed your post had no answer. Like you I am not a techie. Most of the posters on here seem to do nothing but experiment with their XDA's all day There is a wealh of info and help but sadly only useful to other techies.
There doesn't appear to be anything geared at assisting casual users and non techies that have neither the time or inclination to fiddle with ROM's and software etc .
I reckon that would be a useful sticky for noobs- like how to change/ customise the desktop and install various A/V software and remove o2 software etc
Suggest you get the full manual and wade through that.
I bought my o2 mini s at xmas and haven't made a single call on it yet . Its far too complicated for me and working 12 hour days I've no time to play about with it. :roll:
I'm no techy either but I do know that if you do a hard reset and choose corporate install the O2 stuff is not installed. There's some good advice here too - it's maybe a bit less technical than this site.
http://www.clieuk.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=45
Dave
Cheers for the replys Dave and Peanut.
I managed to find something useful here... http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287641
if theres anyone else thats confused about this stuff.
I'm really happy with mine, on the whole it seems pretty simple to use. I hate that it doesnt close programmes when you click the x though.
Im gonna have a little play, but I'll need to get my mms and gprs info from orange first if i install the corporate profile.
I find that if the phone is on for more than 5 mins ifI press the green call button it doesnt bring up the phone screen, even with the normal power setting! I'm hoping this new profile will speed the bad boy up a bit too!
WiFi is a godsend on a mobile! Yey!
Without going through all the palava of flashing a new Rom the easiest way of really removing the O2 crud is to do a Hard Reset of the device (hold the Com Manager and Voice Command buttons the poke the little reset hole on the right hand side of the unit.
When you get the option select corporate installation option and then if I remember correctly you get a count down, press the reset button (without the other two buttons) again briefly to do a soft reset this should then start Windows in its regular non O2 sullied form.
Hope this helped.

Help needed , HTC Touch screen error!

Ok first of all a big hi to this great community (xda team) and users.
Im new to this stuff but im in need for a little help, and i hope someone is willing to help me.
I have HTC Touch and im having problems with it. Its broken now it doesn't work. Not to forget to mention the phone i own is chinese made, which means i think is not the original one (even it looks and acts like the real one).
After modifying some phone applications, by installing tweaks and applications i found on internet, i installed some modified Keypad application, and after using it a while, one day it stopped responding and instead of showing Number keys, it only showed black buttons. SO i tried to uninstall it and after successful uninstall i restarted the phone but it showed me the screen aligning thing and i did what was required it booted but was not working properly. so i did several reboots, and then even tried reseting it. after several tries im now stuck on screen error.
I uploaded two videos on youtube how the screen gets mixed and the other problem, hard reset won't work on my device.
Links to videos:
video 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivS0tALyvd0
video 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0DyOiw7Pkw
i would be very happy if anyone could tell me what to do with my device.
PS. Im newbie so i might need some simple instructions if possible.
Thanks in advance.
No one cant help???
I hope someone is willing to give me some instructions...please!!!
Best regards. Gjizaqin
Very strange.
I havent seen any so unhelpfull forum like this :-( im really sad.
I posted the thread asked for help, explained the thing in the best way i could, and no single reply even the one "we can't help" would be nice to see.
Update to my post:
Im writing this with idea of helping others and pointing people to right direction. After maby 1 month of hard exploring i repaired my htc touch (chinese clone)
The phone im using is also known as Elf0100.
So how i fixed the problem:
After trying many many times the standard Hard reset method (Send, stop keys pressed and presing soft reset button with stylus) this method doesn't work with chinese htc clones. So anyone out there having Chinese Htc clone, the right method for doing Hard Reset is: Hold Volume Up & Camera Key pressed, and press Reset button for about 3 seconds without releasing Volume up and camera buttons. After that you should get blue screen, and in the top screen will be shown "Boot loading, hard reset, or something like that im not very sure".
Anyways if you have your Windows mobile damaged (like the one i had), you can repair it with the following method:
1. Download the manufactured version of Windows (or maby this is called ROM) from this site.
2. Format your HTC memory card (Micro SD card), so it will be clean.
3. Move the update.img (you already downloaded from the site) to root directory of your Memory card.
4. Press Volume Up button on your htc and while keeping it pressed , press the reset button.
You should get the blue screen telling the update being downloaded. Wait for a while and it will tell that Update is successfull and your phone will be rebooted.
THis is it.
Although i didnt get any help from this forum, i know i might help others cause this is most frequent place regarding PPC.
Best regards to all.
gjizaqin said:
Update to my post:
Im writing this with idea of helping others and pointing people to right direction. After maby 1 month of hard exploring i repaired my htc touch (chinese clone)
The phone im using is also known as Elf0100.
So how i fixed the problem:
After trying many many times the standard Hard reset method (Send, stop keys pressed and presing soft reset button with stylus) this method doesn't work with chinese htc clones. So anyone out there having Chinese Htc clone, the right method for doing Hard Reset is: Hold Volume Up & Camera Key pressed, and press Reset button for about 3 seconds without releasing Volume up and camera buttons. After that you should get blue screen, and in the top screen will be shown "Boot loading, hard reset, or something like that im not very sure".
Anyways if you have your Windows mobile damaged (like the one i had), you can repair it with the following method:
1. Download the manufactured version of Windows (or maby this is called ROM) from this site.
2. Format your HTC memory card (Micro SD card), so it will be clean.
3. Move the update.img (you already downloaded from the site) to root directory of your Memory card.
4. Press Volume Up button on your htc and while keeping it pressed , press the reset button.
You should get the blue screen telling the update being downloaded. Wait for a while and it will tell that Update is successfull and your phone will be rebooted.
THis is it.
Although i didnt get any help from this forum, i know i might help others cause this is most frequent place regarding PPC.
Best regards to all.
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Hi gjizaqin,
I feel sorry you lost valuable time looking for an answer to your problem (and found it alone !) but I think you are too hasty to blame this forum. I am myself quite new here and I've already learnt so much using the "search". For instance I found another remark of yours in another thread and also found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2466074#post2466074 where you have your answer
Another reason is the title of your thread Help needed , HTC Touch screen error! like me probably others understood you have a technical problem with your screen (broken or damaged) and nobody could help you but repair shop...
I trust you'll continue contributing here because your last post proves you're a gentleman.
All the best !!!
tito12 said:
Hi gjizaqin,
I feel sorry you lost valuable time looking for an answer to your problem (and found it alone !) but I think you are too hasty to blame this forum. I am myself quite new here and I've already learnt so much using the "search". For instance I found another remark of yours in another thread and also found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2466074#post2466074 where you have your answer
Another reason is the title of your thread Help needed , HTC Touch screen error! like me probably others understood you have a technical problem with your screen (broken or damaged) and nobody could help you but repair shop...
I trust you'll continue contributing here because your last post proves you're a gentleman.
All the best !!!
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Thanks for your reply tito12,
Anyways its nice forum but not very newbie frendly. I guess the way I wrote this thing will be much easier for any newbie to fix his china htc, without talking too much about roms, loaders etc etc, wich is very confusing for newbies (like me and others).
I thought it was screen problem cause my htc was getting some messy colors while loading (you can see it in the video i provided). And i stated "unhellpfull forum" by keeping in mind that more than 200 people viewed the thread, and not even single one said simply : "i have no idea, or sorry" so i know someone will try to help me out.
Anyways as a owner of HTC I will still contribute to this forum, in the way I can but words I wrote could be some kind of newbie impressions.
Best regards to all.
Sorry to see no one could help you out - maybe its because its a clone and most users here have real genuine ones? Anyway its great to see you got it fixed and stick with the forums as I am sure you will learn a lot from them and soemtimes get an answer. I find that hardware questions dont get many responses but if you go into say a skinning forum you will get more replies.

Questions and Answers Section for BA Forum. Post Your Questions Here.

@All,
As a celebration for my 1000th post, I decided to open a new thread based on Tweakman's idea, which seemed to work very well in the Development and Hacking Section. The idea is simple, a single thread for all Questions, Problems, and Concerns regarding Blue Angel. This includes, but it is not limited to:
[highlight]*Problems with Flashing.[/highlight]
Can't get your device in bootloader? Did it freeze during flashing and now it doesn't get past the 4 colored screen? Are you a complete noob and need some guidance as to how to flash? Etc.
[highlight]*Have questions about which Rom is best?[/highlight]
[highlight]*Want to install software but don't know if it is compatible with your BA[/highlight]
You get my point. All the questions that I have seen/answered over the past couple of months are just repetitions of posts, threads, and things that are readily available on the wiki or in other threads. However, people are either lazy, don't know what a Wiki is / where to find it, or just flat out don't know how to search (or read the forum rules for that matter). Having something general (in this case a sticky) that says "Hey, if you have a question, you can ask here" should draw enough attention and start minimizing the number of new threads and posts opened by users (both new and seasoned). This way, we will be able to keep the development threads a little cleaner and smaller... hence making the site's search function work a little better in the process.
@Seniors,
Kinda like the Q&A team, I will need your help in trying to keep the influx of questions to a certain level by answering them as we see them. None of us are logged in 24/7 (or at least some of us aren't ), but if you guys see a question, please try to answer it. I know that xplode, Chef_Tony, markanthonypr, red_hanks, sun_dream, imatrix, +Que_PPC, motisu, and others normally try to keep this under control, but if we centralize it and contain it, we will have a cleaner forum.
Reserved for future use.
Post Stickied Per Request...
Siemens SX66 BlueAngel Q&A, Help
You know very well you can count on us. Great idea mate. Also congrats on your 1,000's post. I've added a few "tags" to the thread. I hope some others do the same to. Tags help users to find what they are looking for when they use search.
hi
hi specialists
my friend has Blue Angel,he has strange problems.
in (sounds & notification),it didnot saved after changing any parameter,we tried by reflash the rom again,but nothing changed,also we reinstalled radio 1.15 but no change,also the ring tone of the msg is discontinue or irregular when played,and some times didnot wake up (of the device) when recieve a msg.
this is strange issued problems but in mine (BA) every thing is ok,this problems only in my friend (BA),I mate PDA2K.
any ideas?any suggestions?
thnx
notice:when we down grade to wm 6.1 every thing is ok
homam_france said:
hi specialists
my friend has Blue Angel,he has strange problems.
in (sounds & notification),it didnot saved after changing any parameter,we tried by reflash the rom again,but nothing changed,also we reinstalled radio 1.15 but no change,also the ring tone of the msg is discontinue or irregular when played,and some times didnot wake up (of the device) when recieve a msg.
this is strange issued problems but in mine (BA) every thing is ok,this problems only in my friend (BA),I mate PDA2K.
any ideas?any suggestions?
thnx
notice:when we down grade to wm 6.1 every thing is ok
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Hey homam,
Thanks for kicking things off
First of all, which OS were you having problems with? This is important because it could have been a bug in a rom that could have been fixed in a later version.
@mark,
I know I can count on you, buddy I need help from the mods as well though. I cannot redirect posts to here and/or close threads
My BA, keeps turning on from standby, by a light shock! I maen, if you press the Power button, and then you knock gently on it's back, it turns back on!!
I've set to "Lock all buttons except the power button", However, I still have this issue.
Well, I must confess that once it dropped off of my hand, and it's the result of that...
Any ideas?
by "it turns back on" i assume you mean it wakes up from stand by, it doesn't really start like after a soft reset, right?
since the BA's only battery activated wake-up is in the cradle and we are not talking about soft reset, my first guess is, the battery is not to blame.
have you checked whether you can use your camera at all time? i mean, the camera_detect does not usually run at all times but if the camera connector is a little lose, from now and then it could "discover" the new camera hardware and wake up, that is unlikely for normal devices, but if yours had a crash before...
you could refer to this site for checking possible hardware reasons:
http://www.land-of-kain.de/ppc/mda3/disassembly/
the hardware things aside, there are also many possible software reasons for the device to wake up on:
- update of titanium weather
- automatic email checking
- cell broadcast
- if bluetooth is on
- if beam is on
- automatic update of any software...
plus of course the usual:
- incoming call
- incoming text message
- incoming mms
- upcoming calendar event...
so please check the possible software wake ups first to make sure this is really a hardware issue, because that would be a shame, that could be tricky to solve.
or let me put it this way, if it is really the moving that wakes it up, you have the first BA with accelerometer
EDIT: last but not least, it could only be a bug, maybe a hard reset or change of the rom could also be a way to go, since spontaneous waking up is a known bug for BAs
Chef_Tony
If there was only a way to hack the hardware and make this work at least on Edge. I can live with everything else, but its a shame paying for a full unlimited Internet service and only getting G connection Sighhhhhhh
Ok, I had to let that frustration out !!!!!!
Chef_Tony said:
by "it turns back on" i assume you mean it wakes up from stand by, it doesn't really start like after a soft reset, right?
since the BA's only battery activated wake-up is in the cradle and we are not talking about soft reset, my first guess is, the battery is not to blame.
have you checked whether you can use your camera at all time? i mean, the camera_detect does not usually run at all times but if the camera connector is a little lose, from now and then it could "discover" the new camera hardware and wake up, that is unlikely for normal devices, but if yours had a crash before...
you could refer to this site for checking possible hardware reasons:
http://www.land-of-kain.de/ppc/mda3/disassembly/
the hardware things aside, there are also many possible software reasons for the device to wake up on:
- update of titanium weather
- automatic email checking
- cell broadcast
- if bluetooth is on
- if beam is on
- automatic update of any software...
plus of course the usual:
- incoming call
- incoming text message
- incoming mms
- upcoming calendar event...
so please check the possible software wake ups first to make sure this is really a hardware issue, because that would be a shame, that could be tricky to solve.
or let me put it this way, if it is really the moving that wakes it up, you have the first BA with accelerometer
EDIT: last but not least, it could only be a bug, maybe a hard reset or change of the rom could also be a way to go, since spontaneous waking up is a known bug for BAs
Chef_Tony
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Wow! Tony! I really appreciate your complete answer. I mean it.
Yes, as you correctly assumed, I meant wake-up. It just wakes up and continues the routine WinMo operation; no soft-reset occurs.
It's less than a year that I've replaced the battery with a new one. I remember all the funny things used to happen when the old battery was dying. But non of them were similar to this one.
It can't be the Camera. Well, I'm able to use it all the time, and the "camera_detect" has been always loaded in the processes whenever I've checked it. About the looseness thing, ummm, I'm not sure. I tried to knock on it to see if it's more sensitive than other parts. I think the upper part of the device is more likely to wake it up by an easy hit (like knocking). but it's the whole upper part, not only the camera section nor the camera button.
Unfortunately, the software possibility, is unlikely to be the problem:
I've used many ROMs on my lovely BA which 3-4 times of them taken place since the wake-up problem.
The software and the usual reasons you counted, do wake it up. but shakes, too.
Finally, to be honest, I'm agree with you! This is the first Blue Angel with accelerometer. yeaaah! I did it!
I bet my friends that I can wake my BA up, without touching any buttons or screen! It's fun this way, but I comes to be annoying when I put it in my pocket or just put it on a table! and it wakes up... consider the forced battery consumption, unwanted screen taps if I don't lock the screen. God bless A_C! and... .
I know it's a hardware issue (((((
@raizaM: My Thought.... Have you ever taken it apart? One of my BA's had 3 loose bolts inside. All 3 were from what I think is the Radio/Antenna part at top. However, in my case, I had a rattle going inside. Thats why I put it apart. You might have something loose inside, causing a connection to arc when you knock on your phone. If you do deside to open it, there is a tutorial on the wiki on how to.
markanthonypr said:
@raizaM: My Thought.... Have you ever taken it apart? One of my BA's had 3 loose bolts inside. All 3 were from what I think is the Radio/Antenna part at top. However, in my case, I had a rattle going inside. Thats why I put it apart. You might have something loose inside, causing a connection to arc when you knock on your phone. If you do deside to open it, there is a tutorial on the wiki on how to.
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Hey mark!
I had that same issue a while back, but with only one screw (also from the same area as yours).
@raizaM
Just to knock off Chef_Tony's theory out of the table completely, try to erase camera_detect.lnk from \Windows\startup and SR your device. If Chef was right, then your issue might be gone. However, I would follow markanthony's advice and take it apart in case Chef's idea doesn't work.
Oh man, your not my hero anymore LoL.. and here I thought I would be the only one with a mechanic inside my phone.
markanthonypr said:
Oh man, your not my hero anymore LoL.. and here I thought I would be the only one with a mechanic inside my phone.
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Well, it kept me entertained when my BA would run out of juice
Thanks for your kind advices.
Actually, I tried to remove "camrea_detect" from the startup once, but any way, I gave it a shot again... no success...
Frankly, I'm a lil bit afraid to take my lovely BA apart... :-s... What if... :-(
But, I guess sooner or later I need to do so. so what the heck... lets do it.
Maybe I'll do it tonight. Guys please help me through it. I don't wanna loose my Angel!
Ton'y link provided in the previous posts, would be my start:
http://www.land-of-kain.de/ppc/mda3/disassembly/
any more advices?
raizaM: You're not going to go that far deep. Only remove the cover. If you look at picture #4 on that link, the top green area has about 6 bolts all around it. Those were the ones that were loose on mine. 2 of them were rattling inside the phone. I still can't believe they didn't cause a short circuit. You don't need to go down into the camshell area. Do you use the sliding keyboard? If so, you could have a bad flex cable. But, don't worry about tha for now. Just remove back cover and carefull inspect for loose bolts. Don't over tighten them.
all the master please help, my BA strange,,,,, the screen suddenly go dead after actived wifi or playing game, its suddenly dead, and i must push power button to turn it on again through proses like softreset, that in battery power. but if i conect in charger power mode, i turn wifi,playing game, its normal, the BA still on and working normal,
please2,,,,,if someone knows the problem please help, im desper now....
loryshoe said:
all the master please help, my BA strange,,,,, the screen suddenly go dead after actived wifi or playing game, its suddenly dead, and i must push power button to turn it on again through proses like softreset, that in battery power. but if i conect in charger power mode, i turn wifi,playing game, its normal, the BA still on and working normal,
please2,,,,,if someone knows the problem please help, im desper now....
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It seems that you have the backlight settings set to dim/turn off too fast. Go to \Settings\System\Backlight and modify the settings in there (particularly the ones labeled "On Battery Power"). Then, soft reset the device (stylus on the bottom).
Hope this helps.
markanthonypr said:
raizaM: You're not going to go that far deep. Only remove the cover. If you look at picture #4 on that link, the top green area has about 6 bolts all around it. Those were the ones that were loose on mine. 2 of them were rattling inside the phone. I still can't believe they didn't cause a short circuit. You don't need to go down into the camshell area. Do you use the sliding keyboard? If so, you could have a bad flex cable. But, don't worry about tha for now. Just remove back cover and carefull inspect for loose bolts. Don't over tighten them.
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egzthunder1 said:
It seems that you have the backlight settings set to dim/turn off too fast. Go to \Settings\System\Backlight and modify the settings in there (particularly the ones labeled "On Battery Power"). Then, soft reset the device (stylus on the bottom).
Hope this helps.
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not the setting, it got black scren, its dead screen after running wifi or application, suddenly goes dead, black screen,.
Have you tried with another battery? It sounds to me like your battery is about to die. It won't hold the heavy battery consumption of Wi-Fi and heavy CPU usage while on Games. Try with another battery. Also make sure you followed Egzthunders suggestion to change your Power Settings. If you still need help, post back and include more info about your device, such as, what version of Windows are you running and how old/new is your battery.

Touchscreen unresponsive, help needed

Hi guys,
I searched the forum for this and didn't find any threads that had an answer so i thought I'd ask for your help. This morning for no apparent reason the touchscreen on my HD2 (stock ROM) stopped responding, everything else is working fine but the screen is just not registering anything.
I tried flashing a couple of custom ROMs but that didn't do the trick, it's now been a whole day where I can't use my phone. I've had this happen to me once before but after a few hours it started working again (also for no reason). This time though it doesn't seem to be fixing itself.
Anyone has any suggestions, hints or tips before I send it back for repair?
all i can say is to make sure it is flashed with stock rom and no custom spl is present when you send it back!
Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely do so. To be honest I was hoping there is a fix that doesn't involve a repair since i bought the phone on craigslist (yeah I know silly me) and there is no warranty. So I'm guessing HTC will hammer me on the price.
you may be able to find a replacement digitiser as it sounds as if that is what is faulty on your device.
Im not sure if anyone has succesfully replaced a digitiser on an hd2 just yet though.
there are a few posts around where people have tried to do the entire screen array, lcd included but i dont know if they were succesful.
would be great to find a service manual for the leo
i just had a thought aswell... if you have no warranty then you may aswell save flashing the device back to stock... you will be charged for repair anyway!
This problem has been discussed several times on XDA. You should search for "touchscreen" or "touch screen" to see the various problems people have had. There doesn't appear to be much you can do about your particular problem.
My HD2 had the same problem when it got hot for any reason (while charging or if it was a hot day). Putting it in the fridge to cool it down helped. You can try that if you like...
Seriously - if you can repeat the problem on the phone, send it back for replacement. The phone is no good to you like that.
Thanks for all the replies, it looks like I will have to send it in... sigh... Let's see how much HTC will charge me.
By the way I tried the fridge thing after reading about it on this forum. Didn't work.

[Q] Hd2 buttons

Well I need to know wether there are any touch buttons apps replacing the original
hardware buttons in development for wp7.There is such an app in android and its very useful too(button savior).I'm concerned because phone that comes with wp7 in it usually doesnt use the hardware switch buttons which i find can cause alot of wear and tear to the existing hardware switch buttons on the hd2,im sorry if this question has been posted before.
yakitty said:
Well I need to know wether there are any touch buttons apps replacing the original
hardware buttons in development for wp7.There is such an app in android and its very useful too(button savior).I'm concerned because phone that comes with wp7 in it usually doesnt use the hardware switch buttons which i find can cause alot of wear and tear to the existing hardware switch buttons on the hd2,im sorry if this question has been posted before.
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nope and i doubt there will be, need to remember that the HD2 wasnt ment to get this, any design consideration to the number of button pushes the HD2 was going to get was in relation to WM6 which didnt have all that many compared to android and WP. perhaps someone could work something in but i doubt it will happen any time soon and it wont be available via the marketplace, unlocked devices only id imagin. To be honest tho, ive been using this for months with some very heavy usage and ive not noticed anything in the way of the buttons not working.

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