[Q] ISO or Windows Setup programme? - Windows 8 General

I have an Acer W500 with a fresh install of Windows 7 and want to upgrade to Windows 8
Can anyone tell me the pros and cons for either upgrading using the ISO on a bootable USB as against downloading and using the setup programme?
I would like a clean install, no dual boot and there is no software already on the tablet that I want to keep.
Thanks

vans2 said:
I have an Acer W500 with a fresh install of Windows 7 and want to upgrade to Windows 8
Can anyone tell me the pros and cons for either upgrading using the ISO on a bootable USB as against downloading and using the setup programme?
I would like a clean install, no dual boot and there is no software already on the tablet that I want to keep.
Thanks
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I have found one issue. If you try to run setup from within Windows 7 you must have at least 16GB free the C Drive. As the Acer W500 comes with a 32GB SSD drive that is a non starter.
So it is ISO on a USB boot disk for me.

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[Q] Is it possible to restore Windows 7 dual boot after Windows 8 upgrade?

Greetings,
I purchase an upgrade DVD of Windows 8 from local Micro Center store. My laptop, ACER 4830TG-6450 with 8 GB RAM, has dual Windows 7 boot originally i.e. I have two Windows 7 Home Premium installed on two different partitions. I boot my notebook from one of Windows 7 partition and upgrade to Windows 8 using the DVD. During Windows 8 upgrade, I don't see the Custom Install options. I proceed to do the upgrade anyway and after doing so, I am no longer have the dual boot menu. Is there a way to fix this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
pwanghk said:
Greetings,
I purchase an upgrade DVD of Windows 8 from local Micro Center store. My laptop, ACER 4830TG-6450 with 8 GB RAM, has dual Windows 7 boot originally i.e. I have two Windows 7 Home Premium installed on two different partitions. I boot my notebook from one of Windows 7 partition and upgrade to Windows 8 using the DVD. During Windows 8 upgrade, I don't see the Custom Install options. I proceed to do the upgrade anyway and after doing so, I am no longer have the dual boot menu. Is there a way to fix this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Never mind, after finishing Windows 8 upgrade, the machine doesn't have the boot menu and boot directly to Windows 8. I thought that it wipes out my dual boot entirely. I restart Windows 8 and there is a new boot menu showing both OS, Windows 8 and Windows 7. I do apologize for any inconvenient this may cause.

[Q] Did Windows 8 64bit require more than 32bit?

Wondering... Did Windows 8 64bit require something more than Windows 8 32bit, except more HDD space and compatible CPU.
Yesterday I buy upgrade for Windows 7 to Windows 8. Upgrade Assistant downloads windows and I burn DVD. When try to install it Setup copies some files, restarted Windows 7 and there appears Windows 8 logo.. After some time PC is restarting and return to Windows 7. Tried to boot from Windows 8 DVD, but again - logo, restart...
After that I download Windows 8 32bit and Windows 8 64bit from MSDN. When try to install 64bit - logo, reset...
But when try to install 32bit - everything is OK. It runs great.
MB: Asus M2N4-SLI
CPU: AM2 Athlon X2 64 4200+
RAM: 2x1GB A-Data
GPU: Asus 7950GT
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Are you upgrading, or are you doing a clean install? (AKA delete partition, reformat. Then install)
If upgrading was the previous OS 32 or 64 bit?
ErylFlynn said:
Are you upgrading, or are you doing a clean install? (AKA delete partition, reformat. Then install)
If upgrading was the previous OS 32 or 64 bit?
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Original OS: Windows Ultimate 64bit
first try to upgrade with "Assistant" (Windows 8 logo -> Reboot (before reach Setup))
after that try to make clear install but after try to boot from DVD -> Windows 8 logo -> Reboot (before reach Setup)
Why do you need x64? It's useful only if you have more than 3 GB of RAM or if you're using the application that uses lots of virtual memory (anyway swap is bottleneck, and you need more ram).
Not sure, have you tried a full wipe and install? Boot from disk and delete the partition and rebuild it. That is what I did, and I went from win7 pro 64 bit to Win 8 pro 64 bit no problems.
Useless guy said:
Why do you need x64? It's useful only if you have more than 3 GB of RAM or if you're using the application that uses lots of virtual memory (anyway swap is bottleneck, and you need more ram).
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well... I just use "Upgrade Assistant" and don't know how to download specific version..., Assistant do it itself.
ErylFlynn said:
Not sure, have you tried a full wipe and install? Boot from disk and delete the partition and rebuild it. That is what I did, and I went from win7 pro 64 bit to Win 8 pro 64 bit no problems.
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Tried with reinstall windows 7 64bit(that I have) and after that to upgrade to windows 8(that I download).
Tried to boot from Windows 8 DVD(That I downloaded) - When boot appears Windows 8 Logo and after a while PC reboots and nothing happens(cannot go to Windows 8 Setup)

[Q] Win8 Installation, Delete to save space?

Well, I downloaded Win8 Installation from net (64 and 32 bit) and I have 4GB USB which is 3.72 GB in practical. So, the size of iso is 3.82 GB.
Can I delete some files to squeeze that 100MB to put it on the USB?
Frustration level: Over 9000
Kir3 said:
Well, I downloaded Win8 Installation from net (64 and 32 bit) and I have 4GB USB which is 3.72 GB in practical. So, the size of iso is 3.82 GB.
Can I delete some files to squeeze that 10MB to put it on the USB?
Frustration level: Over 9000
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That would actually be 100MB
dodge business hacking away at files if you don't know what they are, the 32bit files are only just over 2GB, the 64 are just over 3GB, I don't know why yours is so high, my 64 bit files are 3.3GB...
dazza9075 said:
That would actually be 100MB
dodge business hacking away at files if you don't know what they are, the 32bit files are only just over 2GB, the 64 are just over 3GB, I don't know why yours is so high, my 64 bit files are 3.3GB...
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This iso is 2in1. And yea you're right 100mb
Kir3 said:
Well, I downloaded Win8 Installation from net (64 and 32 bit) and I have 4GB USB which is 3.72 GB in practical. So, the size of iso is 3.82 GB.
Can I delete some files to squeeze that 100MB to put it on the USB?
Frustration level: Over 9000
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Download deamon tools lite and then u can run it without burning or putting it on a flash drive.
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Ouch, consider burning it to a DVD if that's an option for you. Windows 7 can burn DVD natively.
Otherwise, when you're done with Daemon Tools you can uninstall it. Windows 8 can mount .isos without the need of extra applications
cwalton4077 said:
Download deamon tools lite and then u can run it without burning or putting it on a flash drive.
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aegixnova said:
Ouch, consider burning it to a DVD if that's an option for you. Windows 7 can burn DVD natively.
Otherwise, when you're done with Daemon Tools you can uninstall it. Windows 8 can mount .isos without the need of extra applications
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How daemon tools will work when computer is restarted?? I know I can burn on DVD but my pc have problem with DVD drive since I bought it that's why I'm asking for this
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Kir3 said:
How daemon tools will work when computer is restarted?? I know I can burn on DVD but my pc have problem with DVD drive since I bought it that's why I'm asking for this
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As long as you start the installation from windows/deamon tools it will start copying all necessary files to the disk. After the restart the iso is no longer used, thus you shouldn't have any issues.
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Souldrinker said:
As long as you start the installation from windows/deamon tools it will start copying all necessary files to the disk. After the restart the iso is no longer used, thus you shouldn't have any issues.
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I want to perform clean installation. And I have 64-bit Win7 but I want 32-bit Win8

Windows 8.1 Preview install on tablet

I'm interested in installing the 8.1 preview on my Samsung Ativ tablet. Its an 11" tablet with a 1.8GHz Intel Atom 32bit CPU, 2GB Ram.
My concerns are regarding roll-back of the previous OS should there be a problem. That and removing the preview build once the RTM gets released. Anyone have an ETA on that???
The tablet does not have a CD drive obviously, nor do I have any restore media on thumb drive. It has a reinstall partition on it that I've used before, I just want to be sure that this partition doesn't get removed when I upgrade. Will that partition ALWAYS live on the device regardless of what kind of OS I install? Is it on a read-only partition?
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/sam...iv-smart-pc-atom-does-work-windows-8-1-a.html
Hold windows button while powering the device on, that will then open your bios instead of booting into windows 8 supposedly.
Windows 8.1 will overwrite your old recovery partition. There is no protection such as it being read only etc. If you wish to keep the 8.0 recovery partition (highly advised) then you will need to create yourself a recovery USB, I think you need an 8gb thumb drive for that. Before proceeding into the 8.1 install make sure that you have tested that you can load into your recovery USB, even if you dont actually perform the recovery. A few people have made their USB's, updated to 8.1 and then wanted to go back only to realise that their recovery USB is corrupt or that they have no idea how to use it or in more extreme cases havent made one at all.
There are alot of guides including a good one from microsoft on how to create a recovery USB, it essentially just duplicates your devices existing recovery on your thumb drive. It is highly recommended that you do this anyway as you can then delete the existing recovery partition and free up a whole load of space for your tablet (I'm guessing your not very happy with the amount of usable space on your tablet already)
Full release, well, RTM is in late august apparently so it should be 1-3 months after that. Some point this autumn anyway.
JDMpire said:
Will that partition ALWAYS live on the device regardless of what kind of OS I install? Is it on a read-only partition?
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I am not sure how your device is setup. I made a recovery USB like the directions advise before installing the preview on my Surface Pro. It seems like Internet Explorer is hanging on more sites than before but it hasn't bothered me enough to reload the recovery from the USB partition.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Hold windows button while powering the device on, that will then open your bios instead of booting into windows 8 supposedly.
Windows 8.1 will overwrite your old recovery partition. There is no protection such as it being read only etc. If you wish to keep the 8.0 recovery partition (highly advised) then you will need to create yourself a recovery USB.
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First off, I'm putting this on a tablet, thus there is no windows key, no keyboard at all. So I would need to use a USB keyboard and hope that its initialized early enough in the post so that it recognizes the keypress.
Second, and I highlighted the most important part of all, if I hose the recovery partition then I'm kinda screwed for future recovery efforts. I need to tred very lightly here. I will wait if need be for the win 8.1 RTM if there is a way to keep the recovery partition intact. Perhaps I could make a new recovery partition that contains windows 8 AND 8.1, thus anytime I need to recovery after that point it will install win 8.1. Is that possible?
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I'm guessing your not very happy with the amount of usable space on your tablet already.
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Nope, not really I got a 32 GB Micro SD in there so that helps. I have a 64 GB micro and it died about a week after buying and I threw away the box and receipt. Paid cash so no way to look it up by credit card.... oi:crying:
3devious said:
I am not sure how your device is setup. I made a recovery USB like the directions advise before installing the preview on my Surface Pro. It seems like Internet Explorer is hanging on more sites than before but it hasn't bothered me enough to reload the recovery from the USB partition.
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Can you explain what you mean by that? The part about IE...
JDMpire said:
First off, I'm putting this on a tablet, thus there is no windows key, no keyboard at all. So I would need to use a USB keyboard and hope that its initialized early enough in the post so that it recognizes the keypress.
Second, and I highlighted the most important part of all, if I hose the recovery partition then I'm kinda screwed for future recovery efforts. I need to tred very lightly here. I will wait if need be for the win 8.1 RTM if there is a way to keep the recovery partition intact. Perhaps I could make a new recovery partition that contains windows 8 AND 8.1, thus anytime I need to recovery after that point it will install win 8.1. Is that possible?
Nope, not really I got a 32 GB Micro SD in there so that helps. I have a 64 GB micro and it died about a week after buying and I threw away the box and receipt. Paid cash so no way to look it up by credit card.... oi:crying:
Can you explain what you mean by that? The part about IE...
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I know its a tablet. There is a windows key on all tablets, what did you think the massive button below the screen was, it just returns the key code for the normal windows key on a usb keyboard.
Make a recovery USB, then you can hose the recovery partition safely, the recovery usb is essentially that partition moved from tablet to USB memory stick (or you can do DVD but you would need a usb DVD drive in your case and it seems you can't always boot from usb DVD drives for some reason, so I wouldn't advise it). 8.1 will overwrite the old 8 recovery, move the old 8 recovery to usb and then update to 8.1 and you can use the usb to roll back to 8.1.
The internet explorer thing, well, windows 8.1 and all new software in it is beta quality. The pre release is not for consumers, its buggy. Things crash.

Problems installing Phonix OS

I have quite an old laptop and decided to give Phoenix OS a try, loved it that much that I decided to try and install it as a standalone OS, so I download the 64bit ISO image and used rufus to install it onto a 16gb USB stick, I also got hold of parted magic, so the steps I took was to reboot into parted magic and remove all my partitions, then create a new ext4 partition across the whole drive, which in this case is an SSD 120gb, after parted magic had finished I proceeded to install phoenix OS, booted off the USB stick and selected the option to install to the hard drive, It then proceeds to ask me a few questions, do I want to install grub2 efi, I say yes and point to dev/sda1, and do I want to install boot partition, I say yes to this too, it then installs, but just wont boot, every time I restart it says there is no boot device found, or I just get a flashing cursor at a black screen like its waiting for something, what am I doing wrong ?
I have tried with the file system as FAT32, ntfs, and ext4, and also tried with uefi bios and legacy bios, always the same result.
Any help much appreciated, thanks.
Reply to my own thread, finally figured out how to do it, its pretty much only took me all day, but running as a single OS now with no Windows in sight, on a samsung evo 840 120gb SSD, running like lightning.
Seanie280672 said:
Reply to my own thread, finally figured out how to do it, its pretty much only took me all day, but running as a single OS now with no Windows in sight, on a samsung evo 840 120gb SSD, running like lightning.
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it would be just too cool if you told us how you did it or what went wrong before you succeeded ?
HausiX10 said:
it would be just too cool if you told us how you did it or what went wrong before you succeeded ?
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Download the latest Phoenix ISO and create a bootable USB stick with it using rufus, format to FAT32, and partition scheme is MBR for UEFI and legancy bios, tick quick format, tick create a bootable disk using.........and browse to the Phoenix ISO, and tick create extended labels and icon files, my bios is also set to legacy bios, not tried as uefi, may give it a try next weekend if I can be bothered, like I said although my laptop is a 64bit machine, its quite old, so im using the 32bit OS, may try again with the 64bit OS and uefi mode, not that it makes any difference to this OS.
Now get yourself a copy of parted magic and create a bootable USB stick or CD with it, now boot to it, remove all the partitions off your drive, so you now have one complete unpartitioned space, now you need to create 2 partitions, 1 at 350mb (sda1) format to FAT32 then when done, right click it, select manage flags and mark as boot, now format the rest of the drive as EXT4 (sda2).
Now reboot and boot off the other USB stick containing Phoenix, select installation to hard drive, when asked where you want to install it to, select sda2, then you'll be asked if you want to install grub2, say yes, and it will ask you to select a location for it, select sda1, also say yes to installing the bootloader, DO NOT format any of the partitions, let it do its thing, at the end it will ask, start phoenix or reboot, I selected start phoenix, once the screen went black I removed the USB stick and phoenix started up, starts up fine everytime now.
That grub2 was the issue, needs to be on its own partition.
Hi Seanie280672
thanks for the detailed answer. Going to try soon on an old Vostro...
Hans
HausiX10 said:
Hi Seanie280672
thanks for the detailed answer. Going to try soon on an old Vostro...
Hans
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Ive created a video here: https://youtu.be/c68qgPepjFI
Seanie280672 said:
Now reboot and boot off the other USB stick containing Phoenix, select installation to hard drive, when asked where you want to install it to, select sda2, then you'll be asked if you want to install grub2, say yes, and it will ask you to select a location for it, select sda1, also say yes to installing the bootloader, DO NOT format any of the partitions, let it do its thing, at the end it will ask, start phoenix or reboot, I selected start phoenix, once the screen went black I removed the USB stick and phoenix started up, starts up fine everytime now.
That grub2 was the issue, needs to be on its own partition.
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ok so mine when i boot off the bootable usb stick of phoenix os to install the standalone os that i had created using rufus 2.17 it comes to the GNU Grub version 2.02~Beta2 command any ideas on what im doing wrong?
Quittakingmyname said:
ok so mine when i boot off the bootable usb stick of phoenix os to install the standalone os that i had created using rufus 2.17 it comes to the GNU Grub version 2.02~Beta2 command any ideas on what im doing wrong?
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Make sure you used the correct settings in Rufus to create the bootable stick
Seanie280672 said:
Make sure you used the correct settings in Rufus to create the bootable stick
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yes the setting are correct ive used it to do the remix os the same way but phoenix os will not boot up it just goes to the GNU Grub menu
And I also used gparted to do my partitions the way I needed to as well and it will not go past the GNU Grub menu
Try 32bit
My os is 64, but phoenixOS auto-downloader said I needed the 32 bit. Try that.
Does this work with hp notebooks?
Seanie280672 said:
Download the latest Phoenix ISO and create a bootable USB stick with it using rufus, format to FAT32, and partition scheme is MBR for UEFI and legancy bios, tick quick format, tick create a bootable disk using.........and browse to the Phoenix ISO, and tick create extended labels and icon files, my bios is also set to legacy bios, not tried as uefi, may give it a try next weekend if I can be bothered, like I said although my laptop is a 64bit machine, its quite old, so im using the 32bit OS, may try again with the 64bit OS and uefi mode, not that it makes any difference to this OS.
Now get yourself a copy of parted magic and create a bootable USB stick or CD with it, now boot to it, remove all the partitions off your drive, so you now have one complete unpartitioned space, now you need to create 2 partitions, 1 at 350mb (sda1) format to FAT32 then when done, right click it, select manage flags and mark as boot, now format the rest of the drive as EXT4 (sda2).
Now reboot and boot off the other USB stick containing Phoenix, select installation to hard drive, when asked where you want to install it to, select sda2, then you'll be asked if you want to install grub2, say yes, and it will ask you to select a location for it, select sda1, also say yes to installing the bootloader, DO NOT format any of the partitions, let it do its thing, at the end it will ask, start phoenix or reboot, I selected start phoenix, once the screen went black I removed the USB stick and phoenix started up, starts up fine everytime now.
That grub2 was the issue, needs to be on its own partition.
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Thank you for the guide, would it still work if sda1 was ntfs? I can't get gparted or parted magic to work so I must create partitions from within the OS installer itself...
addminusevei said:
Does this work with hp notebooks?
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Yes it works great for dual boot on hp
Phoenix stuck at initial boot
I installed on hard-disk partition with 75gb space
Followed the exact procedure from the official Phoenix OS website
But when I restart the laptop
The Boot gets stuck at "System Initialising, please wait...."
Can anyone pls help me?
Hello, i burned the iso exactly like your post, but when i boot my ASUS T100TAF with the USB it goes to the grub> prompt
what Am i doing wrong?
need help about phoenix
Seanie280672 said:
I have quite an old laptop and decided to give Phoenix OS a try, loved it that much that I decided to try and install it as a standalone OS, so I download the 64bit ISO image and used rufus to install it onto a 16gb USB stick, I also got hold of parted magic, so the steps I took was to reboot into parted magic and remove all my partitions, then create a new ext4 partition across the whole drive, which in this case is an SSD 120gb, after parted magic had finished I proceeded to install phoenix OS, booted off the USB stick and selected the option to install to the hard drive, It then proceeds to ask me a few questions, do I want to install grub2 efi, I say yes and point to dev/sda1, and do I want to install boot partition, I say yes to this too, it then installs, but just wont boot, every time I restart it says there is no boot device found, or I just get a flashing cursor at a black screen like its waiting for something, what am I doing wrong ?
I have tried with the file system as FAT32, ntfs, and ext4, and also tried with uefi bios and legacy bios, always the same result.
Any help much appreciated, thanks.
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i have just installed phonenix i mean i tried flashing a bootable cd to a sda4 partition on my arch linux system . later i found it hard to edit the exsisting grub so i have followed the mounting the iso and creating a folder on the /mnt dir and adding the path to the /etc/grub.d/40_custom , and it worked .. phoenix works well but everytime i shutdown my pc and boot up agian , the phoenix os asks for username and wifi . the storage too seems small regaurding i have installed on a 80 gigs arch linux system still the phoenix uses only 8gigs .can you help me with this?
I suppose, POS can install only to an UEFI laptop the standard way. I installed Phoenix OS 3.0.2... the old way, https://forum.xda-developers.com/ph...tall-phoenix-os-3-0-2-ext4-partition-t3821121 in an old laptop. I don't use Android for day to day work, just to experiment. I didn't open it for sometime, and when I did today (few mins ago.) it got updated to 3.0.3.64. POS notified there is a new version, I agreed, so it downloaded it and installed it.
BTW, Phoenix boots through Ubuntu's grub.
EDIT: I read the whole thread just now. You've succeeded, that's good.
Hi. I also have problem with installation. I want to build a small android video game console. I use mini itx asus mainboard AT5IONT-I with 2core intel atom, nvidia ion gpu and kingston ssd. Installation goes like on Seanie280672 video, but after clicking " run phoenix os" my computer restarts, boots from ssd and I it shows black screen with _
What is the problem and is there any way to fix it?
CPU stopped N no Base cpu clock
Why, when i installing Phoenix Os. And i oppened a CPU Z. My Cpu core 0 and 1 has stopped n cpu clock n/a. And in launcher and cursors so laggy. Can you gime me the solution. Thanks

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