[Q] Should I update? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
Got my N7 yesterday, I unlocked it and its rooted.
now its running 4.1.1 I want to update to 4.1.2 im still on the stock rom(rooted+touch recovery).
I heard that there is some issue if you update through the stoke recovery, so I have a custom recovery. I flashed a rom named smooth 4.0 through both the touch recovery(TWP) and CMW and non of them work I just see the boot up thats all.
so should I update or flash a different rom ?
im sorry if this question has been asked before.
thanks

anyone?

Why Not?
It's up to you if you want to update. 4.1.2 has a few new things, including screen rotation (finally), and a camera app If you can't choose, why don't you do both?

Saturny said:
It's up to you if you want to update. 4.1.2 has a few new things, including screen rotation (finally), and a camera app If you can't choose, why don't you do both?
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try both to see for yourself. i always get the latest and the greatest because of bug fixes stability improvements and things like that.

Maybe this is a placebo effect, but since I've updated I have yet to have some of the intermittent touchscreen issues that I was experiencing on 4.1.1... On that premise alone, and the fact I've had zero new issues crop up on 4.1.2, I'd say go for it.
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I really would like to update and get rid of the annoying pop up message but isnt if im rooted and I have custom recovery will it update?, and if it did will I see app crashing?

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Stay Stock Or Custom Rom?

Im getting a Nexus 7 for christmas and im wondering if i decide to root the nexus 7 is it possible to go back to stock as its not amobile phone i cant think it would be to hard because i love the stock jelly bean 4.2 system but im wanting paranoid rom so i can get table ui on the nexus 7 but if i dont like it can i just go back to the stcok jelly bean rom?? (nexus 7 has been bought from offical google website)
Thanks Guys
George
Why would you not like it...its stock plus so many more options.
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Yes.
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dparrothead1 said:
Yes.
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35472344#post35472344
dannymassacre said:
Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
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This doesn't even matter, all the devs have the official ota update before it comes out due to Google dropping the source before they actually push it out.
Way better to root, you'll have the updates faster that way.
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IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
While I personally prefer stock (with modifications of course) on my N7, it is trivial to revert these devices back to stock, or any other ROM, if you want to. You don't even need to revert and upgrade - you could just download the latest FULL image and flash your device that way, skipping the update step altogether.
But if updates are your only concern, I imagine most of the ROM developers would incorporate the new version into their ROMs very soon after the OTA drops.
BrianDigital said:
IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
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This.
Even if you don't run a custom rom initially, if the bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom recovery and rom later. The problem is that if you unlock all the internal storage gets wiped which is not the end of the world if you backup first but it's still a minor inconvenience.
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paranoid is great, but depends what you like. I love it fit the tablet interface and customization options. stock 4.2 had a lot of the same customization built in, so it's awesome as well.
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To me, its custom ROM or bust.
-Sent from Marino's Nexus 7-
Multi ROM
you may want to use Multi ROM.
Root your stock ROM.
Install Custom Recovery to install Multi ROM.
After installing Multi ROM, you may now install other or more ROMs inside.
Also, you have the option to auto-boot from stock ROM or from other ROM.
With that, you may access your stock ROM without removing your custom ROMs and vice versa.
Goodluck!
I unlocked and rooted my nexus 7 so that I could use otg cable---> a flash drive … I have extra storage now. Just download an app called stick mount an your all set...
Rooting should be the first thing you should do. As others said you can keep it stock if you want. Only difference is you get to install apps like titanium backup and file managers like root explorer. You also will have a custom recovery so you can backup your latest STABLE and smooth ROM so you can revert back if you ever run into trouble like the 4.2 OTA debacle.
As far as any maintenance and fixing issues... having root makes it a breeze as factory resets just mean in 10 minutes you are back in businesses, you just need redo your screens.
I took the plunge and after rooting I installed this: [EXPERIMENTAL] MultiROM v3
Now I'm running stock along with a few other ROMS, including Ubuntu.

[Q] 4.3 more troublesome than useful?

My N4 just arrived today.
I have version 4.2.2 installed.
A quick search on gooogle shows a lot of negative feedback from users on the 4.3 update.
I want to root it too but I'm unsure about the update, have you ecountered problems with latest update that couldn't be fixed?
Or better said, what are the most common bugs and can they be fixed?
Also what about roms, which one should i try, PA?
Some people experienced random reboots, I never had them on JWR, I do on JSS.
Also JSS has sometimes dead locks and freezes for about 10 seconds.
But since the update I experience much better battery life! So yeah if you will use the stock ROM I guess you wont have any of these problems, only advantages.
Thanks for the question and the answer, I'm in the same spot and maybe I'll try some custom JWR this weekend, although the plethora of different specific 4.3 bugs going around - besides those already mentioned - remembers a X-File case.
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Ok. I'm gonna do it.
But first what should I do? What's the order, root first and then update? This my first android/smartphone, so I'm quite new to this...
I'm gonna search for a tutorials now
Bozdo said:
Ok. I'm gonna do it.
But first what should I do? What's the order, root first and then update? This my first android/smartphone, so I'm quite new to this...
I'm gonna search for a tutorials now
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Just update first.
Then install a custom recovery and flash supersu.
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Changed my mind! Seen too many negative comments on youtube... I'm just gonna root this version 4.2.2. and I'll wait for 5.0
Any tips when rooting 4.2.2?
4.3.3 is actually a great upgrade with tons of features and additions. It is just brand new so there are a few bugs to be worked out. But 4.2.2 has bugs that won't be worked out at all.
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K0FFP0LICE said:
4.3.3 is actually a great upgrade with tons of features and additions. It is just brand new so there are a few bugs to be worked out. But 4.2.2 has bugs that won't be worked out at all.
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So how long do you think it will take for them to fix these bugs?
OTA 4.3 update with twrp 2.5 no root.
I have no issues.
If you want a reliable jwr custom ROM then cataclysm is awesome and has no problems either for me.
I use stock for unrooted and cataclysm rooted regularly for different reasons but I definitely recommend updating to 4.3 regardless.
NeXuS⁴
Bozdo said:
So how long do you think it will take for them to fix these bugs?
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Not sure. That's why I'm on a custom ROM. Devs usually fix things quicker.
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Bozdo said:
Changed my mind! Seen too many negative comments on youtube... I'm just gonna root this version 4.2.2. and I'll wait for 5.0
Any tips when rooting 4.2.2?
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You can always go back to a previous version. I'm not really sure why you're being so skittish.
FYI, "5.0" will likely be far more riddled with bugs. More changes means more room for error. You have a freaking Nexus. Get with the program.
My advice to you is to not use a toolkit. Setup fastboot and know how to flash the stock images BEFORE attempting anything. That way, if something goes wrong you can fix it without making yet another "HALP! I bricked my phone" thread. We have way too many of those.

Anybody want to try a possible fix or mitigation for random reboots?

UPDATE: don't need anyone testing this anymore as it is not fixing most reboots
Can someone who is running custom recovery and has bad/frequent reboots install the attached file and see if it alleviates your reboots?
Please let me know what version of the OS you are running and if you are on JSS15J or JSS15Q, whether you updated via factory image or OTA.
I am 99.99% sure nothing bad will happen to your system. This will not disable your ability to get OTAs, nor change any system files, nor affect touchscreen, nor affect GPS, ...
I'm running a version of cm which has worked better than stock but still a daily reboot. What is this file going to alter / Will it work on cm?
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joeshmoo said:
I'm running a version of cm which has worked better than stock but still a daily reboot. What is this file going to alter / Will it work on cm?
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If it works, it should work ok with CM as long as you run it in TWRP.
It doesn't actually touch the ROM. It uses the kernel to reset the DDR3 memory timings and allows the system to retrain.
Thanks, I like to know what I'm flashing. Just flashed, will report back.
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getting desperate and flashing this to try..
Didn't work. Just had my first reboot.
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fkfs9 said:
Didn't work. Just had my first reboot.
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Could you tell me what OS you are running and whether you've run an OTA before?
sfhub said:
Could you tell me what OS you are running and whether you've run an OTA before?
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I'm on 15Q odex stock ROM. I never had an ota before.
I rooted and unlocked the boot loader and flash this ROM yesterday.
Just had a reboot on mine as well.
Running build 8 of this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391779
[ROM][CM10.2][4.3][CyanogenMod FLO Kangs][DJL10.2][LINARO][Build 8][2013/08/25]
Ok, then it looks like this won't fix the random reboots.
Sorry, back to your regularly schedule program.
sfhub said:
Ok, then it looks like this won't fix the random reboots.
Sorry, back to your regularly schedule program.
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Thanks for trying
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joeshmoo said:
Thanks, I like to know what I'm flashing. Just flashed, will report back.
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Don't you mean you like to know who you are flashing?
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im on clean rom with elemental x 1.2 and i have never had a reboot or anything bad happen since. i did have issues on stock 4.3 with small tweaks but since clean rom i have had no issues whatsoever
Edit also was on slim bean flo and had same issues so it's something messed up in the rom i would assume and not the software version it self
KiaraTheDragon said:
im on clean rom with elemental x 1.2 and i have never had a reboot or anything bad happen since. i did have issues on stock 4.3 with small tweaks but since clean rom i have had no issues whatsoever
Edit also was on slim bean flo and had same issues so it's something messed up in the rom i would assume and not the software version it self
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can i flash clean rom without losing data or apps? im on modded stock rom + elementalX
I haven't had a reboot since the newest update.
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Android 4.4 OTA Update

I'm currently running GE international edition android 4.3 ROM by Jamal on my att gs4 and I got this notification today. Should I update it or not?
Out won't work, you have the same phone just custom Google edition software running on it. You don't have a Google edition device.
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RossFixxed said:
Out won't work, you have the same phone just custom Google edition software running on it. You don't have a Google edition device.
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Better wait untill fixed 4.4 GE comes out.This one has too much problems atm.
Random reboot, Security settings don't work, camera flash doesn't work, when you tap android 4.4 the kitkat logo isnt apearing but it gets stuck on the theme wallpaper etc..
darknes4o said:
Better wait untill fixed 4.4 GE comes out.This one has too much problems atm.
Random reboot, Security settings don't work, camera flash doesn't work, when you tap android 4.4 the kitkat logo isnt apearing but it gets stuck on the theme wallpaper etc..
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Yeah that's always the way. It just highlights that the i9505 and the i9505 are indeed different devices, despite appearing to be exactly the same. I'd say give it a little while, most of the issues are kernel related. The 4.3 GE rom untouched is a pleasure to use, but it took some work from the devs to get it going. I'd imagine once they get it runing it'l be awesome. While I'm excited to get it running, patiene is the key!
(although I have to stop myself from being a big baby "I waaant it, iwantitiwantitiwantit!"

[Q] Should I update my Nexus to 4.3 or stay with 4.2?

I heard there are some problems with 4.3. Coz till now I faced no problems with my current version 4.2 and I like to stay with the best versions rather than updating to new ones and face problems. So are there any pleasing features to get updated? And with the current version of my tablet there is landscape mode and I don't like portrait! (Heard there is no landscape mode in 4.3!)
Sorry if therez already another thread on this topic! :|
lalith10 said:
I heard there are some problems with 4.3. Coz till now I faced no problems with my current version 4.2 and I like to stay with the best versions rather than updating to new ones and face problems. So are there any pleasing features to get updated? And with the current version of my tablet there is landscape mode and I don't like portrait! (Heard there is no landscape mode in 4.3!)
Sorry if therez already another thread on this topic! :|
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4.3 is good and 4.4 is pretty stable. My only gripe with 4.4 is that it broke Flash video, but there is a fix for it. You have to use Dolphin browser, but I prefer Dolphin anyways. Before, I had to use Firefox on 4.3.
As for rotation, I have no issue with it. Then again, I don't use the stock launcher as I use Nova. This was on 4.3 as well as 4.4.
Under 4.4, rotation works just fine in landscape mode on the default launcher that comes with it.
But, it all comes to your preference. If you're comfortable with 4.2, then by all means, stick with it. You don't HAVE to upgrade to the latest and greatest.
But, with 4.3 you get the "butter" patch which makes the tablet response much smoother. 4.4 does that even better with the way it handles memory so that 4.4 will run well on low-memory devices.
It all depends. Some people have issues, others do not. Most issues I believe are from doing an upgrade and leaving all your apps installed from a previous version. I've learned it's best to backup the device, wipe it clean completely and then upgrade and then reinstall your apps.
Or, you could just go into recovery after the upgrade and try wipe dalvik and see if that helps. But usually, a full wipe of data and dalvik can really speed things up.
4.3 and 4.4 are alot better then 4.2 on our tablet....an example its the fixed trim, after updating to 4.3 im very happy while on 4.2 the tablet was lagging and showing bad performance. I recommend updating 4.3 or 4.4.
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