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Can someone tell me whats up with the 50+ ICS ROMs? It's a bit concerning that all this effort seems to be put into reproducing the same exact thing. I think the community would benefit from cooperation rather than competition... But I feel like I must be missing something here, I am new to the Nexus S but not to Android, is there something about the Nexus S community that I'm not getting?
Not complaining at all, or should I say, I'm not trying to complain. I also want to point out that I appreciate the developers who pour their time and effort into our devices and help us to get the maximum value out of them.
(Want to note, I am running AOSP's ICS build and loving it.)
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Can someone tell me whats up with the 50+ ICS ROMs? It's a bit concerning that all this effort seems to be put into reproducing the same exact thing. I think the community would benefit from cooperation rather than competition... But I feel like I must be missing something here, I am new to the Nexus S but not to Android, is there something about the Nexus S community that I'm not getting?
Not complaining at all, or should I say, I'm not trying to complain. I also want to point out that I appreciate the developers who pour their time and effort into our devices and help us to get the maximum value out of them.
(Want to note, I am running AOSP's ICS build and loving it.)
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Hey Man, I am much similar to where you are right now. I am not new to Nexus S or Android, but I feel that the abundance of ROMs is a good thing.
Having so many ROMs shows that the device is still running very strong: Something Android phones NEED to have behind them.
On the other hand I dislike it. To all the developers out there, I think you guys are amazing and genius no doubt. So take the following lightly...
What people don't like to see when browsing for a ROM is a dozen ROMs that are all identical. We need something new and fresh, hence why I like MIUI.
What I think should be done is as you said, have co-operation to make one master ROM because we have hundreds of people in the Nexus S community ready to help.
Speaking on my behalf I HATE SO MANY ROMs Because I simply cannot decide which is best because they are all similar in many ways, and I don't have time to try each one out as much as I want to. I do like having these ROMs but when it comes to choosing one its a big choice for me.
Any feedback on this?
I agree with a not so great abundance or ROMs. But most are not devs. They are simply "chefs" because they never actually developed anything. They just price and scrap things from source to mods. Cm9, ASOP, Peter A(because of his radios and kernal) are devs. We have lots of chefs.
I made brickROM just because of this situation. Its never been done, but the community wasn't ready for it yet.
Either way you can tell what rom has Is "real" I would say there's about only 5
And its sad for new Android users that come here get presided by a catching slogan and rob themselves from using a much better rom
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What would you do if you don't like any of the existing ROMs? May be one is missing a feature you need, another just has too many features you don't want? The answer is simple -- create your own ROM, or modify an existing one... I think most devs just make the ROM they want to use as their daily driver and simply share it here (i.e. what's going on is not about competition, at least from my point of view)
It sounds good to gather all devs to create a ROM that suits everyone's needs, but IMHO it is nearly impossible to do that
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What would you do if you don't like any of the existing ROMs? May be one is missing a feature you need, another just has too many features you don't want? The answer is simple -- create your own ROM, or modify an existing one... I think most devs just make the ROM they want to use as their daily driver and simply share it here (i.e. what's going on is not about competition, at least from my point of view)
It sounds good to gather all devs to create a ROM that suits everyone's needs, but IMHO it is nearly impossible to do that
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But these futures found in everyone's ROM are just mods that you can flash. I flash 8 zips with every rom update but I know that a personal mix so I have no need to share it.
I'm capiale of changing my waklppaer
I flash custom font, and inverted apps with some tyranny Widgets and kernal. With gnex sounds. No reason to "cook" it. This is not development.
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suksit said:
It sounds good to gather all devs to create a ROM that suits everyone's needs, but IMHO it is nearly impossible to do that
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The CyanogenMod team pull it off quite well, all that is needed is a bug tracker and patch review system and boom! instant cooperation.
Maybe we have too many "chefs" in the kitchen
joenathane said:
The CyanogenMod team pull it off quite well, all that is needed is a bug tracker and patch review system and boom! instant cooperation.
Maybe we have too many "chefs" in the kitchen
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I am agree with you CyanogenMod need a bug tracker for CM9.
Here is an interesting fact in case anyone didn't know but MR. Cyanogen himself is rocking a Nexus S http://twitter.com/#!/cyanogen/status/153353404159234049
I wonder what build of ICS he is running, probably from his own private reserve...
joenathane said:
The CyanogenMod team pull it off quite well, all that is needed is a bug tracker and patch review system and boom! instant cooperation.
Maybe we have too many "chefs" in the kitchen
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I will be honest here and say that I personally dislike Cyanogen Mod for the most part. True that they are the gut best in performance, but if the only ROM I had was Cyanogen, I would not be very happy with it. I just think that for my favor, Cyanogen focus' so much on power, yet takes the look of the ROM as a after thought. The modified music on Cyanogen ROMs and the overall execution of his work lacks style and design, as if he first said "Make it fast, then maybe make it look ok" MIUI on the other hand has a great deal invested in how it looks which gives a very effective illusion of performance.
I think that the problem is we have so many chefs in that small kitchen and they have all made so many great dishes that sooner or later they will have eventually all used the same spices by some point, so we are beginning to lose that uniqueness in each one.
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I will be honest here and say that I personally dislike Cyanogen Mod for the most part. True that they are the gut best in performance, but if the only ROM I had was Cyanogen, I would not be very happy with it. I just think that for my favor, Cyanogen focus' so much on power, yet takes the look of the ROM as a after thought. The modified music on Cyanogen ROMs and the overall execution of his work lacks style and design, as if he first said "Make it fast, then maybe make it look ok" MIUI on the other hand has a great deal invested in how it looks which gives a very effective illusion of performance.
I think that the problem is we have so many chefs in that small kitchen and they have all made so many great dishes that sooner or later they will have eventually all used the same spices by some point, so we are beginning to lose that uniqueness in each one.
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The only problem with that is Miui uses CyanogenMod code as a base(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIUI#Development) and CyanogenMod 7 has the theme chooser integrated for easy themeing(check the last three links in my signature to see some themes I created for it).
I don't think any mod team have contributed more to Android than the CyanogenMod Team, they certainly have my respect for that.
I agree about the spices, all these chefs cooking the same exact entree and now which on to choose...
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The only problem with that is Miui uses CyanogenMod code as a base(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIUI#Development)
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It's a fact, not a problem.
Back on topic,
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I think that the problem is we have so many chefs in that small kitchen and they have all made so many great dishes that sooner or later they will have eventually all used the same spices by some point, so we are beginning to lose that uniqueness in each one.
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I believe at some point the community will decide which dishes live and which will die. I don't think people will keep posting ROMs if nobody uses it.
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It's a fact, not a problem.
Back on topic,
I believe at some point the community will decide which dishes live and which will die. I don't think people will keep posting ROMs if nobody uses it.
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This^^ plus one thing, good all these chefs are popping up, that's showing a swell in number of people interested in development, in the end it can only have a positive outcome. Let em dev.
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It's a fact, not a problem.
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I obviously didn't mean problem in that sense, I meant it as in the 'problem' with his argument not the problem with CyanogenMod or Miui, I'm not sure how you interpreted it the way you did...
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I believe at some point the community will decide which dishes live and which will die. I don't think people will keep posting ROMs if nobody uses it.
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what about the "noobs" who are instantly confronted with 20+ ICS ROMs and not a clue to which is worth its weight in salt?
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I obviously didn't mean problem in that sense, I meant it as in the 'problem' with his argument not the problem with CyanogenMod or Miui, I'm not sure how you interpreted it the way you did...
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Sorry if I interpreted it wrong (English is not my native language anyway ) I thought you're trying to imply that "since MIUI is based on CM, @LGIQEXPO shouldn't compare them together" or "if you like MIUI, it means you already liked CM." Just wanted to say that it is not a problem if one wants to compare those two.
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what about the "noobs" who are instantly confronted with 20+ ICS ROMs and not a clue to which is worth its weight in salt?
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Occasionally I'd see a thread titled "Help me decide which ROM is best" and the most popular answer would be "Why don't you try them all?" Yeah it would be madness to try all 20+ ROMs in a row, but I don't think anyone will do that.
Before flashing a ROM, I'd (suggest them to) read everything in the first few posts by the OP, and take a look at the screenshots (most of the time I can decide if I will like this ROM or not by these two factors) If those "noobs" are not too ignorant I believe they'll have a small list of ROM(s) they want to try (may be 4-5 choices, which is reasonable.)
I know it is on the same code, but I more so meant the apps that MIUI re-did for their ROMs, and how they offer a nice end user appeal.
What would be amazing is if all the known devs of these ROMs would just once come together to use their own strengths, and make a mast ROM out of it. MIUI Design and style, Cyanogen tweaks and speed, Peter A. stability, the overclocking everything! (I can't wait for that hahah )
you want fewer rom, get a ns4g. Although we only have a fraction of the roms found in the other forum, they all seem to have their own distinct character.
i was using an SII before this so i was a frequent on that part of xda.. they do have a separate page for original development and another one for development (being kitchen products)
Hey,
Just wanted to add my opinion in all of this that there are so many "equal" roms.
I as some mentioned on another thread am a chef to rom developing, and I don't mind.
Why I do this is because I don't have the time or knowledge to create Android source apps so I take what I think is the best from each rom and create my own.
For example for me CM9 is way to bloated with too many configurations and options I prefer a more real cleaner AOSP, something like Peter Alfonso (buglessBeast), but I do like the T9 dialer from CM9, so I cherry-pick that from CM9 and add it to a PA base.
Also for the notifications power menu I liked TeamKang one so I added that. That way I'm making my own custom rom to my liking and also I don't have to be flashing 20 zips every time there is a new update or wipe my phone
I just thought on sharing it just if some one has the same likes in roms I'm no asking for anything in return. Also I do this in my little free time.
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mandaman2k said:
Hey,
Just wanted to add my opinion in all of this that there are so many "equal" roms.
I as some mentioned on another thread am a chef to rom developing, and I don't mind.
Why I do this is because I don't have the time or knowledge to create Android source apps so I take what I think is the best from each rom and create my own.
For example for me CM9 is way to bloated with too many configurations and options I prefer a more real cleaner AOSP, something like Peter Alfonso (buglessBeast), but I do like the T9 dialer from CM9, so I cherry-pick that from CM9 and add it to a PA base.
Also for the notifications power menu I liked TeamKang one so I added that. That way I'm making my own custom rom to my liking and also I don't have to be flashing 20 zips every time there is a new update or wipe my phone
I just thought on sharing it just if some one has the same likes in roms I'm no asking for anything in return. Also I do this in my little free time.
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Thanks for adding your voice to the discourse.
If I was asked to offer an opinion on what you do, this is what I would say....
I think what you do is okay for you, but the problem is when you release it. There is a problem because as you state, you cherry pick features and/or "code" from other ROMs, and that can/will lead to issues for your user base. Lets take for example the T9 dialer, what happens when security bugs are found and fixed and optimizations make it into an update of the T9 dialer? Well that would mean you would need to update your ROM, but what if you're busy with your job or just with life and are too busy to get around to it? Well now your users of your ROM are without those security, bug fixes and optimizations, and multiply that by all the other pieces of the ROM that you cherry picked from other sources.
My point here to be clear is that due to the nature of your ROM, it will always lag in patches to security issues, bug fixes and optimizations and I think that is ultimately a disservice to your user base.
There is a value that you create, so I guess the question here is, does that value of bringing all these pieces into one convenient package outweigh the negatives of the lagging patches/fixes?
I mean no offense, and I hope this isn't taken as such, I just want to encourage some discourse on these things...
I am new to the SGS3, and I still trying to find the best ROM that suits me, and there are many many ROMs for the SGS3, so instead of getting lost with all those ROMs I started creating a spreadsheet that compares all the features of ROMs.
But before going ahead in my project, I wanted to know if anybody else did this before.
I know it is a hard job to maintain, but at least it can give us a quick look of main features, and mainly to quickly filter ROMs that support a specific feature.
Take a look on what I made till now, just 4 ROMs at the moment, but later more can be added.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asy0eXCnfqpJdGQtVkRlVVRnVklNbDNMV0xuX2dualE
Update: Feb 1, 2013
This thread has been abandoned, I started it because I wanted to compare all ROMs out there to find the best one that meets my needs, but I ended up doing my own ROM putting in what I need, so I will no longer continue updating the already old spreadsheet....
I will leave the file there if anybody wants to download it and make changes....
I think that He is trying to make a sheet for users to see wich Rom suits best each one. And not the best Rom for all.
I like the idea.
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Sounds like a good idea to get an overview over the features of all the different ROM's.
But it's only useful if you continually update it. So many updates to ROM's every day and you need to keep up if the comparison chart is to be useful.
So a lot of work, so make sure you're up to it in the long run also
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Personally i think its a waste of time as it will take too long to maintain and there is so little gain. Its pointless having so many common columns.
Why not just create a thread (if not done already) that lists roms that are JB, ICS etc so you can see which roms are out with them flavours and if they have been updated recently etc?
there's a page for that. i believe it's in the all in one sticky.
EDIT: it's in the roll up sticky all in one thread. a link in there goes to an "absolute" thread that breaks it down to which roms are what.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
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there's a page for that. i believe it's in the all in one sticky.
EDIT: it's in the roll up sticky all in one thread. a link in there goes to an "absolute" thread that breaks it down to which roms are what.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
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Nice thread, complete list of ROM's and even mods.... but doesn't say what each ROM have/uses.
What I have in mind is a search engine for ROM features, give me a ROM that is based on official samsung, and that supports OpenVPN and contains the 15 toggle mod and not contain the Ad filters by default. something like the Phone Finder on GSMArena
I see no threat just the statement that if it turns out to be a best rom thread in disguise it will be reported .
jje
I'm going to let this continue on for now, but if it does turn into any kind of war about the best rom, it will get shut down.
I don't see anything wrong for now about maybe having a "wiki for rom features", just make sure it doesn't turn into a best rom thread and it will be fine.
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Nice thread, complete list of ROM's and even mods.... but doesn't say what each ROM have/uses.
What I have in mind is a search engine for ROM features, give me a ROM that is based on official samsung, and that supports OpenVPN and contains the 15 toggle mod and not contain the Ad filters by default. something like the Phone Finder on GSMArena
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essentially, they're similar for the most part with unique tweaks to them. You should know what AOSP, AOKP, Stock (i.e. Touchwiz), Sense, and other stuff are. They are already defined in that thread. And the rest of this is up to you to test out and see what you like.
If you break it down into categories, there'll be so many columns and rows, then you would be having a spreadsheet each with one check for their own unique tweak.
in otherwords, it can get really big and messy.
edit: don't get me wrong. It seems like an interesting idea but you'll have to find a way to organize it so it doesn't become a mess. Good luck because it might be a little rough.
edit 2 for example: omega has 2 versions. one for ICS which should be "final" but it's there. and the JB version that is constantly updating. you'll need to account for that as well.
Oh thank you so much. Been waiting for a thread like this. I don't want to flash and flash each and every ROM to see what fits me. The spread sheet is awesome. Hope you'll update it every now and then.
You're missing the Rootbox ROM 4.1.2, I've been using it since I first got my s3, only problem I found is the nightlies agent so nightly lol
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mcbyte_it said:
I am new to the SGS3, and I still trying to find the best ROM that suits me, and there are many many ROMs for the SGS3, so instead of getting lost with all those ROMs I started creating a spreadsheet that compares all the features of ROMs.
But before going ahead in my project, I wanted to know if anybody else did this before.
I know it is a hard job to maintain, but at least it can give us a quick look of main features, and mainly to quickly filter ROMs that support a specific feature.
Take a look on what I made till now, just 4 ROMs at the moment, but later more can be added.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asy0eXCnfqpJdGQtVkRlVVRnVklNbDNMV0xuX2dualE
Update:
Filters doesn't work for anonymous users, but you can download it and enable them offline.
Update 2:
For experiments, I made a Google Form to let users fill the spreadsheet by themselves, in case somebody wants to add more roms, for extra questions, I can add them later. check it here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGQtVkRlVVRnVklNbDNMV0xuX2dualE6MQ#gid=0
Maybe later I even can create a web site to collect the information, with the ability to give the rom creates the ability to maintain the list updated..
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awesome idea great for newbs
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Add a column for ROM size, it gives some idea about the boatware included in the rom.
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This is awesome i was thinking about doing the same thing whrn i was choosing a ROM if its maintained it may get a sticky
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Hello Guys,
This is my first post on XDA forum because I'm new here. I didn't post any threads till now because I didn't want to spam the forum with any unwanted thread or duplicate ones, but I have tried many Roms and I already knew some really cool and helpful guys like Jader, Mechmetal and Bestttt :fingers-crossed:
I used to work as a software engineer, but currently i'm working as a software quality control engineer.
and as I said earlier I have tried many Roms and I also have found lots of bugs and enhancements required.
I wanted to post comments but sadly I'm not allowed to because terms and conditions stated that I can't comment unless I post at least 10 threads :crying:
Anyway, I just wanted to suggest something,
I suggest organizing a thread for something like a requirement sheet for each Rom, speaking about myself I installed lots of roms but I removed it again because it has less customizations , or it doesn't have a built in application that I really want or it has another one I don't like (ex: toggles) while it had been a fast and stable one.
so why don't we find a way to collect the requirements of the users installing JB Roms, and ICS roms so the developers can put their effort in two really cool and helpful roms to have most of our needs:good:
It was just a suggestion
I'm have Xperia Arc [lt15i] with AOKP M1 - Fusion Kernel 3.9
Given how many ROMs there are, along with the fact that everyone's different this is a fruitless task, and why I learned to mod myself. You also can't expect Devs/Themers to cater for every last persons requirements.
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XperienceD said:
Given how many ROMs there are, along with the fact that everyone's different this is a fruitless task, and why I learned to mod myself. You also can't expect Devs/Themers to cater for every last persons requirements.
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Yes, Sure I get what you mean, it's so exhaustive
I meant something like Bug reporting technique, issues or enhancements with priorities and severity.
Anyways it was just a suggestion
Thanks anyway
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Anyways it was just a suggestion
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Which are always good, but like I've said we're all different and what you may like in a ROM I might not so what you might call a "requirement" I might call a gimmick.
Also, you don't need to start 10 threads to post in Development, you just need to make 10, preferably helpful posts elsewhere.
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Which are always good, but like I've said we're all different and what you may like in a ROM I might not so what you might call a "requirement" I might call a gimmick.
Also, you don't need to start 10 threads to post in Development, you just need to make 10, preferably helpful posts elsewhere.
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I didn't start 10 threads to post in the Development section, I downloaded and tried most of the Roms in the development section,
The number of posts near my name are just replies
plus, my posts in the development sections are not requests , so I could still use it normally since I registered on XDA without the need to comment
Thanks anyway it was just an Idea that I thought about and I just wanted to share.
I have tested many JB Based Roms/ Kernels if you have created modded one where WiFi / WiFi Tethering is Stable and working I would be much obliged of having and Using it on my phone ... The best Rom / Kernel I have tried so far has been LuPus V4 Kernel with CAMPS Rom but unfortunately like all the rest WiFi Tethering has been insignificant and unusable Where as I have to constantly downgrade back to JellySandwich / Ark Knight Combo (ICS) Untill there's been a fix ... So There's are my 2 needs hope that helps with your conquest in making a Universal Rom
Mod ur own rom and rule the world because no developer will ever work to create a rom as per ur convince
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Mod ur own rom and rule the world because no developer will ever work to create a rom as per ur convince
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Would love to but don't know how too so just enjoying other people's work. Testing and using them all till I find a good which I have done atm which runs extremely well
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xda devs mate already organized the threads.. also we got good moderators... this is a free forum.. you need to earn the recognized developr to gain the reputation.. or other title.. theres no instant here... show off your works and get recognized.
if you can fix some bugs.. you can contribute in developing the roms.. btw welcome...
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As you know, Jellybean has released worldwide. Now there are marked differences between the leaked version (slightly more features although more buggy) and the official release.
I'd like someone to develop one which incorporates some of the features left out of the official release and more. I realise the gravity of this request and it will require the skill of some of the best developers here.
The features I'd like are as follows:
The stock Touchwiz Jellybean etc with the addition of;
The ability to do split screen for third party apps, screen recording (with the option of including voice), flash, ability to rearrange mini apps to fit as 3 or 4 windows layout on a single screen see 3:27 on kingdenzel92's youtube video "Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8000) Jelly Bean Leak In-Depth Review N8000DDALI1". Youtube being incorporated into the video player so this can be moved around (this was in the Jellybean leak), make sure the switch is there which allows you to change between eraser in S-Note.
No messing around with other stock apps, or changing themes please.
Only the greatest of developers can achieve this task.
Thanks,
NASSAfellow.
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As you know, Jellybean has released worldwide. Now there are marked differences between the leaked version (slightly more features although more buggy) and the official release.
I'd like someone to develop one which incorporates some of the features left out of the official release and more. I realise the gravity of this request and it will require the skill of some of the best developers here.
The features I'd like are as follows:
The stock Touchwiz Jellybean etc with the addition of;
The ability to do split screen for third party apps, screen recording (with the option of including voice), flash, ability to rearrange mini apps to fit as 3 or 4 windows layout on a single screen see 3:27 on kingdenzel92's youtube video "Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8000) Jelly Bean Leak In-Depth Review N8000DDALI1". Youtube being incorporated into the video player so this can be moved around (this was in the Jellybean leak), make sure the switch is there which allows you to change between eraser in S-Note.
No messing around with other stock apps, or changing themes please.
Only the greatest of developers can achieve this task.
Thanks,
NASSAfellow.
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... Not sure if joking
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Lol.
I'd like someone to give me a million dollars... will it happen? Hell no.. I don't get people. If you want something and its not be offered by the community then learn to do it yourself and stop expecting everyone to do things for you. If you don't know how then do like the rest of us do and learn on your own. People need to take initiative instead of expecting to be spoon fed everything.
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nassafellow said:
As you know, Jellybean has released worldwide. Now there are marked differences between the leaked version (slightly more features although more buggy) and the official release.
I'd like someone to develop one which incorporates some of the features left out of the official release and more. I realise the gravity of this request and it will require the skill of some of the best developers here.
The features I'd like are as follows:
The stock Touchwiz Jellybean etc with the addition of;
The ability to do split screen for third party apps, screen recording (with the option of including voice), flash, ability to rearrange mini apps to fit as 3 or 4 windows layout on a single screen see 3:27 on kingdenzel92's youtube video "Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8000) Jelly Bean Leak In-Depth Review N8000DDALI1". Youtube being incorporated into the video player so this can be moved around (this was in the Jellybean leak), make sure the switch is there which allows you to change between eraser in S-Note.
No messing around with other stock apps, or changing themes please.
Only the greatest of developers can achieve this task.
Thanks,
NASSAfellow.
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It should also turn my stylus into a magic wand and my stereo speakers into 5.1 surround sound. Lets also not forget that it must turn my capacitive screen into a solar panel to sustain itself indefinitely without worrying about running out of battery power.
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This is a joke right?
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I used to call myself noob until I found this thread......
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I have no idea why you guys are so cynical.
This guy has given great ideas to create a great rom.
Yes, it requires a lot of skill and time to accomplish such thing, what doesn't? But it's not impossible, and it would be freakin' awesome.
Currently all i see in our development section are same roms with same functionality, just with different themes.(except CM of course)
There is no way i'm switching from stock, because there is nothing better, but if what he describes existed...
The real Joke is that stock 8013 is still ICS.
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There's nothing wrong with a "please build me a ROM" request as such, however I wouldn't expect anyone to pickup the gauntlet from a random post in the general section.
You'd be far better off installing one of the current crop of JB ROMS and then making specific requests in that thread, you may find that some of the current crop have most of the features you require anyway.
Nikoloz17 said:
I have no idea why you guys are so cynical.
This guy has given great ideas to create a great rom.
Yes, it requires a lot of skill and time to accomplish such thing, what doesn't? But it's not impossible, and it would be freakin' awesome.
Currently all i see in our development section are same roms with same functionality, just with different themes.(except CM of course)
There is no way i'm switching from stock, because there is nothing better, but if what he describes existed...
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No one said they weren't good ideas (or bad ones) The problem is this is a development community. It's not a ROM requesting forum. This forum was created for DEVELOPERS to come share ideas, mods, etc.. It was not created to serve the end user. It was not created for people to come requesting things. It is here for people who want to LEARN to make their devices better.. Not expect/request people to do it for them. I knew NOTHING about android 2 years ago and if I had this mentality I would still be a noob that didn't know anything but yet expected others to do it for me. If people are constantly spoon fed things then why should they learn? There are guys that have been using android a lot longer time than me yet I know tons more then they do.. Why? Because I read, I learned, I put in my time. I didn't just go around requesting whatever I wanted. If there was something I wanted and it was not offered by the community I LEARNED how to do it myself and this community gave me the knowledge to learn on my own.
da.trute said:
There's nothing wrong with a "please build me a ROM" .
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Actually you're wrong. It's very wrong to come to a development community and ask people to do things for you. Now if the OP actually wanted to learn something instead of being spoon fed, then there is nothing wrong with that. But to come to a development community where devs work for free and be like "I want someone to build me a rom that does A, B and C, now someone build it for me" Is just bad form and bad taste. If you want something that the community doesn't offer LEARN to do it yourself instead of imposing on others to do it for you
Too true graffixnyc and one of the reasons I stopped releasing roms on xda a while ago .
Too many people demanding ****e without any respect for the sheer amount of effort involved by people donating their spare time.
I always have been keen to encourage and support others to learn, but some people think that they don't need to contribute other than through criticism.
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Basically what people are possibly trying to say is that, xda is a community of developers who share their work amongst us little people, not Burger King where you can have it your way.
Point, requesting a new feature in a ROM for a Dev you support is one thing, but this thread is no good.
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The guy said just the idea to see if someone could create it but yes that ain't gon happen but put a 100$ bounty then devs will make it happen lol money talks!
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The Dev section is for development. There's nothing wrong with making a request for something you can't do yourself. He's not demanding anything. If your not talented enough to do it let alone try you shouldn't even be responding to this thread
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fards said:
Too true graffixnyc and one of the reasons I stopped releasing roms on xda a while ago .
Too many people demanding ****e without any respect for the sheer amount of effort involved by people donating their spare time.
I always have been keen to encourage and support others to learn, but some people think that they don't need to contribute other than through criticism.
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cool story bro
I think the Sabsa rom ,until V14 ,should be restored in the download area , these jobs are in use by high numbers of members and has been developped hardly by Alireza
Who agree, please join.
Stop flooding.
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I don't use sabsa, but I really don't understand this philosophy.......I'm not an expert of open source and other things like that, but for me the philosphy should be: here is android, here is my work, everybody that want to contribute in make a rom even better using part of my works or the whole work( with credit to the author) should be welcom.......but again I'm not an expert of those things, maybe my words are simply UTOPIA.....
I do believe the chef should be credited and thanked. At the same time all Sense Roms are taking the hard work of HTC who spent thousands of dollars to make it in the first place and HTC HAS NOT SHUT XDA DOWN!!!!!
Too many fragile egos. And bad replies like ETAS
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Thread Closed
Do not open threads about a ROM that has been removed from XDA. It was removed for good reason, and now discussions about it end.