I was worried about my screen as gsmarena and other trusted websites did not mention whether SGN10.1 had gorilla glass or not. Hence I mailed both Samsung and Corning, asking them the same. Turns out, its just plain glass.
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Since your response is obviously from an off-shore contact center by the grammer and the responder's obviously confused as they're answering the "type" of display (TFT) to your inquiry I'm going to say that's not reliable.
Lisa from mobiletechreview.com who also owns a Note 10.1 and participates in the forum said the following. I think between the two sources I'll go with Lisa. Lisa, if you read this can you follow-up with Samsung to confirm?
"Display
OK, here's the gorilla in the room, and I don't mean Gorilla Glass since both have that durable glass (the Asus has Gorilla Glass 2 that's even thinner). Some reviewers have focused on the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF700's HD display as the Samsung (and nearly every other tablet) killer. The New iPad's Retina display has heightened awareness of very high resolution displays, and yes: the Asus has a sharper display. Text is more perfectly formed and photos and videos pop a bit. Both tablets show you the same amount of stuff on screen since Android scales the resolution. It's not like Windows where a higher resolution results in tiny but sharp text and smaller images. But no doubt the Asus TF700, like the New iPad and to a slightly lesser extent the Acer Iconia Tab A700, have sharper screens. It's a subtle but real improvement. That said, the standard 1280 x 800 PLS display on the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 is very colorful, vibrant and sharp. You're not slumming... you're simply not looking at the absolute best."
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=43181
Yeah that Samsung reps answer doesn't really make sense, not sure I'd trust it.
didnt samsung reps also say it has 1GB of ram lol
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Lisa has not quoted a source. Other than MobileTechReview, no other major reviewer mentions it having the Gorilla Glass.
For every other device its clearly mentioned by Samsung and most other reviewers.
Also, how does it matter if the reply is by an offshore office ? Their technical team would have checked the information before responding right ?
Corning is not willing to disclose the information. Samsung India says no. I am not sure who else to take it up with ? Samsung South Korea is it ?
Corning is not the only company to make super strong glass for touch devices. The gorilla glass 2 has been reported by many to break easier because its thinner but its better scratch resistant. Be assured that samsung used a tough piece of glass on this device. My guess its made by who ever does the touch tablet glass for wacom. Being the digitizer is part of the glass assembly.
What would your guess be?
Jayanth.M.P said:
Lisa has not quoted a source. Other than MobileTechReview, no other major reviewer mentions it having the Gorilla Glass.
For every other device its clearly mentioned by Samsung and most other reviewers.
Also, how does it matter if the reply is by an offshore office ? Their technical team would have checked the information before responding right ?
Corning is not willing to disclose the information. Samsung India says no. I am not sure who else to take it up with ? Samsung South Korea is it ?
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You're right, Lisa made it up. The media gets press kits with far more detail than is available to consumers. I assume she got it from that or from contacting Samsung's PR department which consumers also don't have access to. Technical team? Please. I've run contact centers and they follow a decision tree when answering questions and nine out of ten times make things up if they can't find the real answer. Do you think "TFT" was in any way a logical response based on your question? Most off-shore support people haven't even seen the products they're supporting and a Note could be a months salary. Lisa's on the board. I'm sure she'll respond with her source.
Well, here's a test. Let's have someone take a nail to the screen, and see how it stands up .
I know my Samsung Galaxy SIII (which I had for a brief month) had Gorilla Glass II... and yet after just a month of renting space in my pocket it has a number of small scratches. Which is why my GN10.1 never leaves a case now.
Personally I just do not understand the hype surrounding gorilla glass. Sure it is thinner, but I have had devices that utilize gorilla glass that have been scratched to pieces, and I am not rough with my tech gear either. Gorilla glass or not, all of my devices have screen protectors on them, so it makes little difference to me.
Gorilla glass does not matter since I have a galaxy s3 and its screen still got scratched even though it's supposed to be like the best.
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Their technical team would have checked the information before responding right ?
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Clearly, nobody checked any information before responding. The answer makes no sense. My guess is that the rep had no idea at all what Corning GG is.
That said, I'm not sure that it's even going to be possible to determine if the Note 10.1 has GG. GG is nice stuff, but so is a lot of other glass. Samsung may not be interested in promoting Corning's products. Doesn't mean they do or don't use it. Even if they don't use it, what they do use may be just as good. GG is not magic, it's just chemistry. There's a coating on it that has a hardness of around 8-9 moh. Anything with that hardness or more will scratch GG, all marketing aside. Any glass with a similar coating will be just as scratch resistant as GG. Impact resistance is in the glass itself due to an ion exchange process, and can also be duplicated by other manufacturers.
So, yes GG is good. Yes, other manufacturers can make glass just as good. No, GG is NOT scratch proof. It is no more scratch resistant than any other glass with a similar hardness rating. Anything with similar or greater hardness will scratch it.
Put a high quality screen protector on it and stop worrying about Corning's marketing.
What I have noticed about these "scratchproof" glass screens is that while direct pressure of a sharp object may not scratch it, dragging an uneven jagged surface (such as a a staple point) across the screen will. Why you should never put stapled pages on top of or near your Note.
mitchellvii said:
What I have noticed about these "scratchproof" glass screens is that while direct pressure of a sharp object may not scratch it, dragging an uneven jagged surface (such as a a staple point) across the screen will. Why you should never put stapled pages on top of or near your Note.
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A single grain of sand will scratch the crap out of gorilla glass, and any other glass too.
The note 10.1 has gorilla glass 2. I asked a samsung employee not from india lol
Corning lists several Samsung products with Gorilla Glass on their site.
The Galaxy Note 10.1 is not one of them.
blud7 said:
Corning lists several Samsung products with Gorilla Glass on their site.
The Galaxy Note 10.1 is not one of them.
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The only thing I would question is if the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is made out of GG, the note 2 is made out of GG2, why wouldnt they make the note 10.1 GG2?
junrider said:
The only thing I would question is if the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is made out of GG, the note 2 is made out of GG2, why wouldnt they make the note 10.1 GG2?
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Ikr? But I'm not saying it isn't, I'm just saying that Corning's site listing of devices, the Note 10.1 is not mentioned.
Could be that the info there is outdated...
blud7 said:
Corning lists several Samsung products with Gorilla Glass on their site.
The Galaxy Note 10.1 is not one of them.
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Not proof of anything except that the Note 10.0 isn't listed.
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Ikr? But I'm not saying it isn't, I'm just saying that Corning's site listing of devices, the Note 10.1 is not mentioned.
Could be that the info there is outdated...
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Yes, the gtab 7.7 was never listed, but it definitely had gorilla glass.
Problem: even if they have gorilla glass, its EXCURCIATINGLY easy to scratch the oleophobic coating.... horribly, terribly, nightmarishly easy...
As in, I've already done it and I'm SO SO SAD!
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Samsung wrote:
Due to customer agreements, we cannot identify all devices that feature Gorilla Glass. Your favorite device may include Gorilla Glass, even if you don't see it listed. Ask your manufacturer or retailer to learn more.
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Again, though, does it matter? There is nothing magic about GG. It's good stuff, but nothing is stopping other manufacturers from making similar stuff. Corning is merely trying to increase demand or their product through clever marketing. Increased demand leads to increased prices. It's a very intelligent thing for Samsung to remain mum and not help Corning increase demand for GG with free advertising. As long as Samsung is using a similar glass, why does anyone care what brand it is???? I guess marketing works... :laugh:
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This has been confirmed by dozens of XDA members who have gone above and beyond to confirm that it is indeed Gorilla Glass in the Note.
Ever since the release date, the feud over Gorilla Glass began and it ended a week later. Dozens of members contacted Corning and they said that many devices with gorilla glass are not shown in their list.
®That was for all you going "CORNING SAYZ DA NOTE HAZ NO GORILLA GLAZS"
I have read numerous threads where users have contacted Samsung and have reached the conclusion that it is indeed gorilla glass in our notes. On pretty much all the tech sites, they all list the Note as having Gorilla Glass.
Gorilla glass is Scratch-"resistant" not Scratch "proof" and even if it was Scratch proof, it would not be impervious to everything.
Gorilla Glass isn't magic, it is Glass and like any other Glass, sand can scratch it because Glass is just super heated sand.
Now, to those saying "GORILLA GLAZS IS DESIGNED TO B3 scrATCH PROOF"
Gorilla glass was created in the hopes of reducing shock from falls, to preserve the glass, while also giving adequate scratch resistance.
Hopefully, this will encourage people to spend the $20 on a decent screen protector to protect the $260 screen+ digitizer on their Note.
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do you even know what gorilla glass is? even if the glass is made exactly the same way with exactly the same composition as gorilla glass, it's not gorilla glass unless corning says it is! do you have any proof that the galaxy note has gorilla glass? NO! geezz don't waste our time starting a new thread with absolutely no evidence
bamboo12 said:
do you even know what gorilla glass is? even if the glass is made exactly the same way with exactly the same composition as gorilla glass, it's not gorilla glass unless corning says it is! do you have any proof that the galaxy note has gorilla glass? NO! geezz don't waste our time starting a new thread with absolutely no evidence
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I own 2 other devices with Corning Gorilla Glass; an Acer W500, my Galaxy S2.
I honestly don't think you know what Gorilla Glass is. Google it.
Use the search bar and find the other threads if you want proof, or contact corning yourself.
PROOF
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note-4135.php
Dug up this quote:
DocRambone said:
"Your favorite device may include Gorilla Glass, even if you don’t see it listed. Ask your manufacturer or retailer to learn more."
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Samsung Rep Conversation
Pearl: I understand that you want to know if the Samsung Note phone has Gorilla glass or Normal Galss. Am I correct?
Bitter: yes
Pearl: Thank you for the confirmation.
Pearl: Would you mind holding 3 minutes while I gather the required information on your request?
Bitter: Take your time
Pearl: Thank you.
Pearl: Thank you for holding.
Bitter: Welcome back
Pearl: The Samsung Note has the Gorilla Glass.
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ph00ny said:
1. Gorilla Glass isn't scratch proof (SGSII has 0 scratches while captivate has a few)
2. Samsung and Corning has a partnership (joint company) and may not be using the gorilla glass name. (http://www.scp.samsung.com/)
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Why didn't you use the other 100 threads
GALAXY NOTE
http://www.scp.samsung.com/product/prdOLED/prdAm02.asp
It looks like they may be using the lotus glass instead of gorilla glass
http://www.androidauthority.com/corning-unveils-lotus-glass-29195/
Isn't this a good thing since lotus glass has much tighter property and better display features than gorilla?
xAnimal5 said:
I own 2 other devices with Corning Gorilla Glass; an Acer W500, my Galaxy S2.
I honestly don't think you know what Gorilla Glass is. Google it.
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xAnimal5 said:
Gorilla Glass isn't magic, it is Glass and like any other Glass, sand can scratch it because Glass is just super heated sand.
Gorilla glass was created in the hopes of reducing shock from falls, to preserve the glass, while also giving adequate scratch resistance.
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Right! let me enlighten you a little, gorilla glass was never designed to reduce shock from fall, hence if u drop you phone sideways it will crack
gorilla glass isn't made just from sand like other glass, it has aluminium oxide in it (you know.. the stuff sapphires and rubies are made of)
pfft!
So it's magic?
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So it's magic?
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I know it is not magic when seeing the scratchS on my GNote.
Please stop it with the Gorillas will ya. All this Gorilla talk is making me loopy.
Jesus, therz some stubbornly persistent ppl.
Corning had a patent for making GORILLA GLASS. It doesn't anymore. Once the patent expires, big companies usually start manufacturing their own version of the ex-patented product. it's cheaper and most of the times better, cuz it fits their exact needs. Moreover, sammy and corning play together for quite a while now.
So, NO, the Note doesn't have GORILLA glass but it does have a glass that is the same or better.
chrz and let's hope for no more threads on that sbj. starts to feel like a teen-problem forum here
Maybe the mods can create a new sub-forum dedicated to debating the glass used in the Note. That way we can talk about glass all day long without the clutter of less important topics related to using the phone.
dscline said:
Maybe the mods can create a new sub-forum dedicated to debating the glass used in the Note. That way we can talk about glass all day long without the clutter of less important topics related to using the phone.
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lol. couldn't agree more.
On the Samsung Mobile Singapore facebook page, Samsung confirms that the Note has Gorilla Glass. This is the second time I've seen them say it!
http://www.facebook.com/#!/SamsungMobileSingapore/posts/10150556147512625?notif_t=feed_comment
I dont understand why people give so much fuss about this issue, ITS A NON ISSUE PEOPLE! Gorilla glass or not it still gets scratched!
holgalee said:
On the Samsung Mobile Singapore facebook page, Samsung confirms that the Note has Gorilla Glass. This is the second time I've seen them say it!
http://www.facebook.com/#!/SamsungMobileSingapore/posts/10150556147512625?notif_t=feed_comment
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Wow, thanks for that!
Now it's decided.
(Uh, do you think i'm being premature?)
I got proof!
I asked Samsung myself and they replyed with the answere: Yes, the galaxy note do have Corning´s gorilla glas. We´re sorry for not making this clear.
So there you have it!
Damn! I just dropped my Note on the street while walking.
5 foot drop. Scratches on the corners. Part of the plastic rim around one of the edges of the glass jumped away. Glass fortunately still fully intact. No scratches.
Phone operating as before.
Really bummed, but could've been much much worse.
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I dropped it on the concrete floor 5 times now, once from a height of 1,5 m - no damage what so ever. Thank-you Samsung for choosing Gorilla Glass.
I dropped mine ~4ft onto concrete when getting out of my truck and it's practically undamaged. The plastic edge around the screen is scuffed on two corners (which I'll buff out at some point) but the screen is spotless, despite having landed face down. I've enjoyed over 2 months now of a slim, sexy, clear, case-free and screen protector-free phone.
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I've enjoyed over 2 months now of a slim, sexy, clear, case-free and screen protector-free phone.
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After all the stories of scratched screens, I went ahead and got an SGP oleophobic screen protector for mine. While scratch protection may not be completely necessary, I will say that smudges are significantly reduced relative to my Galaxy Tab 10.1 with no SP. I'm actually sold on them after using this one.
I've noticed that the viewing angles and visibility in sunlight of Samsung's Super AMOLED+ displays are below average, contrary to the company's claims.
I know for a fact that reflections in any touchscreen display can be eliminated by bonding the glass to the LCD panel using a transparent resin. As there are less layers of reflective surface redirecting the light rays (from sunlight and the display itself), visibility can be increased dramatically.
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I disassembled an old Nokia X6 I had about a year ago and bonded the glass to the TFT LCD panel using high transparency superglue. When indoors it may seem to be about the same, but there is a big difference when outdoors. The Nokia X6 has surprisingly far better visibility in sunlight than the Samsung Galaxy S2.
When seen from nearly in-line with the glass, you can see quite a difference.
Some bonus photos from a while back when the screen wasn't cracked
Here's a video (it's in 1080p):
Imagine the possibilities if done to a Super AMOLED+ display like the Galaxy SII's.
Some questions:
Is there anyone here (on XDA) willing to do it?
Why hasn't Samsung already done so already?
Ah, back in the early days of SAMOLED displays with poor sunlight visibility...
Tough to really see a difference in those photos. I'm curious about the long term effects of this like yellowing and glue coming undone. Also, this adds a lot of unnecessary complexity to manufacturing process. Imagine if some bubbles got trapped in there. Anyone who's ever put a screen protector on a phone knows how annoying that can be.
It's not that hard
ben999_ said:
Tough to really see a difference in those photos. I'm curious about the long term effects of this like yellowing and glue coming undone. Also, this adds a lot of unnecessary complexity to manufacturing process. Imagine if some bubbles got trapped in there. Anyone who's ever put a screen protector on a phone knows how annoying that can be.
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As of now, there aren't any signs of yellowing or glue becoming undone. In fact, the glass now survives a 1.5 meter drop. For the record, the glue only has bubbles around the side because I didn't seal the edges of the LCD panel.
Also, I did a bit of research. The iPhone 4 and 4S has already done this on a mass production scale, but with IPS displays. I don't think it would be much harder for Samsung to do as they manufacture their own displays anyway.
I'll post better pictures tomorrow.
ACTUALLY, as you can see in my last photo, barely any light is visible from the Galaxy SII's display at that angle. You may be able to see it on an AMOLED display but not on a mediocre contrast LCD display (I can't even see the Galaxy SII's display on my LCD monitor).
ben999_ said:
'm curious about the long term effects of this like yellowing and glue coming undone. Also, this adds a lot of unnecessary complexity to manufacturing process. Imagine if some bubbles got trapped in there. Anyone who's ever put a screen protector on a phone knows how annoying that can be.
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Consider the fact that Superglue was invented for the purpose of gluing camera lenses together (in part, to eliminate reflections). The optical industry covered all of your concerns decades ago.
Pretty much, although they'd call it something else like bonding resin.
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What case are you using? It's awesome!!
nikidorian said:
What case are you using? It's awesome!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22436462&postcount=24
It is called 'Sweet Armor GS2'. I also have an aluminium battery cover on it.
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But i think there are already solutions for it atleast Chinese have it. Dont u heared of antiglare screen gaurds? Which is not so transperent( its darker) but u will never notice its presence over the screen. Which is also not that much smooth.
It can improve reading in sunlight and also is fingerprint and scratch resistant. But is costlier than normal gaurds. Its about 20$ .
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ben999_ said:
Tough to really see a difference in those photos. I'm curious about the long term effects of this like yellowing and glue coming undone. Also, this adds a lot of unnecessary complexity to manufacturing process. Imagine if some bubbles got trapped in there. Anyone who's ever put a screen protector on a phone knows how annoying that can be.
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If they use a colourless resin it stands a better chance of not yellowing and won't come undone. The biggest issue I see is bubbles. Resins are notorious for them as they are more syrup-like that glue. If the manage to get that thing on there though, they will never be able to get it off. Kiss the chance of replacing a digitizer goodbye.
I'd rather leave it to Samsung/hardware developers to find a solution. You're talking about a potentially dangerous, warranty voiding procedure to replace using your hand to cast a shadow.
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As of now, there aren't any signs of yellowing or glue becoming undone. In fact, the glass now survives a 1.5 meter drop. For the record, the glue only has bubbles around the side because I didn't seal the edges of the LCD panel.
Also, I did a bit of research. The iPhone 4 and 4S has already done this on a mass production scale, but with IPS displays. I don't think it would be much harder for Samsung to do as they manufacture their own displays anyway.
I'll post better pictures tomorrow.
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The one thing about the iPhone 4 is that there is still a gap layer between teh digitizer and the lcd. I have replaced many iPhone 4 digitizers in my time. That being said, there is an air gap there which will cause diffraction. In order todo this problem, the resin needs to be appied to the digitizer so it will be combined to the LCD.
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But i think there are already solutions for it atleast Chinese have it. Dont u heared of antiglare screen gaurds? Which is not so transperent( its darker) but u will never notice its presence over the screen. Which is also not that much smooth.
It can improve reading in sunlight and also is fingerprint and scratch resistant. But is costlier than normal gaurds. Its about 20$ .
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I know of anti glare screen protectors. In fact, I know them too well. Their light diffusing properties make an otherwise sharp display look fuzzy. Pixels are no longer in line with each other but instead appear to look scattered. The thing with anti glare screen protectors is that they prevent external reflections from travelling in a straight line, thereby reducing glare.
My aim here is that I want to reduce the reflections altogether, not spread them out.
Also, I am curious as to how you can pay $20 for a single screen protector. I always buy them from eBay because you can get at least 30 for the price of $20.
Some better photos
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Tough to really see a difference in those photos. I'm curious about the long term effects of this like yellowing and glue coming undone. Also, this adds a lot of unnecessary complexity to manufacturing process. Imagine if some bubbles got trapped in there. Anyone who's ever put a screen protector on a phone knows how annoying that can be.
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Here are some better photos. Sorry for the shakiness though.
To make a good comparison, I have a screenshot of the Nokia X6 on the Galaxy SII. Both displays are at full brightness but my camera decided to take the light metering value from the Galaxy SII so the Nokia X6 looks dimmer.
This is the Nokia X6's display viewed from around 85 degrees from where 0 degrees is perpendicular to the display (if that made sense). Look for the red Opera icon.
And this is the Galaxy SII's display from around the same angle. Also look for the red Opera icon.
As others mentioned, what are you supposed to do if the digitizer fails? There's a reason the screen isn't actually bonded.
O rly?
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As others mentioned, what are you supposed to do if the digitizer fails? There's a reason the screen isn't actually bonded.
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If the digitizer fails, you'll have to replace both the digitizer and the display panel.
It's not uncommon now; the Galaxy SII's display assembly is already a single piece, not separable into its individual parts without damaging the panel. The two parts were made to be a single assembly at the factory. Besides, they aren't expensive. The combined cost of a Nokia X6's digitizer and LCD doesn't exceed $50. If you want to replace a cracked Galaxy SII digitizer or faulty AMOLED panel, you'll have to buy the whole assembly anyway.
A genuine Samsung panel costs $180, but for reasons that shall remain unexplained, it is possible to buy third party Galaxy SII digitizers on the internet for around $10. I don't know how that's going to work. Maybe the stock digitizer and LCD panel can be separated into two separate pieces so if only the glass cracks you can replace the digitizer.
EDIT: I checked. The Galaxy SII's glass and the LCD panel are fused together using some glue which looks to be inseparable. This was supposedly meant to prevent dust from getting in. It's a reasonable excuse.
Oh yeah, as seen in the pictures I posted, the Nokia X6's digitizer is badly cracked but is still fully functional. I cracked the screen once before but to a much lesser extent, but the digitizer failed anyway.
As you can see, the display assemply can be separated.
It wasn't cracked that badly, but it didn't work.
Is there any easy way to spread out the super glue? This sounds like a great idea but superglue can be a huge PITA to work with, especially with something expensive.
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Is there any easy way to spread out the super glue? This sounds like a great idea but superglue can be a huge PITA to work with, especially with something expensive.
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I used around a full bottle of Aron Alpha Instant Glue (the Alpha Cyanoacrylate one) for the Nokia X6's screen, and it's quite alright as long as there isn't any dust on the glass or the LCD. If bubbles form as you're applying the glue, just pop them with a needle. The glue is quite runny, so when applied to the glass on a flat surface it should just spread out evenly.
Unfortunately, one thing that I didn't do was have a rectangular foam border for the LCD to sit on so that the glue doesn't escape from underneath the LCD panel form bubbles after the LCD is placed on top of the glass.
Since there is no direct contact of surfaces for the glue to actually bond (and you're using a full 2 grams of it), drying takes a lot longer. I recommend letting it dry for a full 24 hours before moving it.
This is the closest I could find to the one that I used.
Mine came in an orange plastic bottle which looks exactly like this
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Oh yeah, as seen in the pictures I posted, the Nokia X6's digitizer is badly cracked but is still fully functional.
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Beware of using cracked screens without protecting your fingers with a screen protector (even packing tape works well in a pinch) You do NOT want to slice your fingertips with the ultra sharp edges on a cracked screen.
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If the digitizer fails, you'll have to replace both the digitizer and the display panel.
It's not uncommon now; the Galaxy SII's display assembly is already a single piece, not separable into its individual parts without damaging the panel. The two parts were made to be a single assembly at the factory. Besides, they aren't expensive. The combined cost of a Nokia X6's digitizer and LCD doesn't exceed $50. If you want to replace a cracked Galaxy SII digitizer or faulty AMOLED panel, you'll have to buy the whole assembly anyway.
A genuine Samsung panel costs $180, but for reasons that shall remain unexplained, it is possible to buy third party Galaxy SII digitizers on the internet for around $10. I don't know how that's going to work. Maybe the stock digitizer and LCD panel can be separated into two separate pieces so if only the glass cracks you can replace the digitizer.
EDIT: I checked. The Galaxy SII's glass and the LCD panel are fused together using some glue which looks to be inseparable. This was supposedly meant to prevent dust from getting in. It's a reasonable excuse.
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I can say for a fact and from experience that these "combined" or "bonded" screens come apart. I am not sure what they use but I highly doubt it's super glue. And if they are sealed together, I am assuming it's just an edge seal or else it would do what you are saying right?
In a review of the Galaxy note 10.1 written by examiner they claim that when using the S-pen it can scratch you screen, and that it is only visible under the sunlight with the power off.
The worst part about the screen is that the S-Pen actually scratches the screen, which is supposed to be protected by Gorilla Glass. You won't notice the scratches unless you look at the screen with the power off in sunlight, but it is still annoying. Those of you who are desperate enough to buy the Galaxy Note 10.1 may want to invest in a screen cover.
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Can any note owners confirm this?
LINK :http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-tries-hard-but-ultimately-fails
Mine certainly does not have any scratches. At least not yet. I used it a lot so far (like writing a few full pages of notes), so I don't think it should normally be a problem.
Scratches might have happened because some particles between the pen and the screen, not the pen itself.
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In a review of the Galaxy note 10.1 written by examiner they claim that when using the S-pen it can scratch you screen, and that it is only visible under the sunlight with the power off.
Can any note owners confirm this?
LINK :http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-tries-hard-but-ultimately-fails
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I just came to the forums looking for the same answer. I was planning on getting one of these tomorrow but now I want to wait until I hear from people who have them and are using them. Can anyone verify or dispute this claim that the stylus scratches the screen?
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised. Gorilla glass isn't invincible. It's meant to give some leeway for those who do treat they devices carefully. That said, reviewers like these need to keep in mind that there are many factors that can contribute scratches on screens. While Gorilla Glass certainly does not get scratched easily by kitchen knives and blades, it can get scratched by dust. You might think that's impossible, but dust is made up of a lot of different things. There might be a diamond particle in there, who knows? But if you get something that hard and rub it against the Gorilla Glass, it's going to scratch, no questions asked.
I don't think it's the S Pen that scratched their screen, but rather their own carelessness. So to answer you question, is it possible that the S Pen scratched it? Yeah. But likely? Nope.
I don't own a Galaxy Note 10.1 yet, but I just wanted to get this across before people start to freak out about how Gorilla Glass can be scratched.
Its physically impossible for the plastic nib to scratch glass. But like the other guy said, any particles in between the nib and the screen could cause a scratch. I've experienced this myself personally on my Note. Just make sure the screen and nib are clean, and if you're gonna be using the tablet in an environment where it could be subjected to dust particles or whatever, I'd highly recommend a screen protector. Oh, one other thing, what looks like scratches could just be the pen cutting through finger grease on the screen. There have been many times where I thought I got a bunch of little scratches on my screen, but then was relieved to find out that was not the case.
As a sidenote, what's with reviewers these days? It's like they're all doing every thing they can to discredit the Note and make sure it fails.
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Looks like a poor attempt of a review to slate Samsungs new tablet. I wouldn't even call it a review just a rant by someone who dislikes the device from the start. I would ignore it.
So far no scratches on my screen. I have been using it for about two weeks. I do plan on getting a screen protector just in case.
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Now 4 days continously working with S-Pan indoors and outdoors by the pool, even on the beach: no single scratch even when lookung with a magnifying glass.
Some types of grease/lotions make believe it´s a scratch and can be very sticky but can easily be wiped away with a wet cloth and a microsquirt of dishcleaner.
I bought the 10.1 as replacement for my old notebook and it will have a hard life with me
I have both the note 5.3 phone and the 10.1 and neither have scratches from the s pen. I don't have one regret about getting this I pad conqueror!
I've had the Note 5.3 phone since December last year and the screen on it has not a single scratch on it, my 3 year old son likes to draw on the phone with the S Pen and as already mentioned still not a single scratch (knock on wood!).
If you are worried then get a screen protector, I have not yet decided if I will get one myself or if I will just settle with a case/flip case of some sort.
Here is a thread regarding screen protectors for the Note 10.1 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838473
What I in fact AM worried about is the rear facing camera lens on the Note 10.1, if the "design" is the same as on the Note 5.3 phone (which it seems to be based on pictures), the rear facing camera lens is actually a little bit elevated. So if the Note 10.1 is laying flat on it's back on a desk you better make sure there are no small sharp particles that can scratch the lens on the desk.
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You may use a screen protector to be on the safe side.
Off-topic: is it easy to write in on this tablet, does it recognizes handwriting easily.
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You may use a screen protector to be on the safe side.
Off-topic: is it easy to write in on this tablet, does it recognizes handwriting easily.
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Check this thread for a video that demonstrates the handwriting - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840997
Natively, there's only two things that will scratch the display; both within your control. Gorilla Glass scratches with sand and silica. Keep it away from those and you should be fine. If the display and or pen are dirty, there's a chance something on either could cause scratches; potentially bad ones. Keep eye glass cleaning wipes handy to clean both frequently and you should be fine. Either way bad things happen to portable devices sometimes so luck and fate play a role too.
Addendum: although the performance of the SGN10.1 in bright sunlight is very good an antireflective screen protector would be a good idea. On my SGS II and III and Note I have antireflective screen protectors installed.
The disadvantage of these antireflectives is a more blurry screen and loss of "sharpness" which is considerably strong esp. on my SGS III
The most difficult part will be to attach the protector which should be done in a dust free environment to prevent bubbles.
With this protector installed You will never ever have to worry about scratches by sand (beach, desert, sandy environment) or lava-ashes (Pacific fire ring countries, Italy). Nano- and micro-crystals of sand and/or other silica adhere nicely to the grease on the screen from Your fingers and thus might create scratches even on gentle cleaning with a soft cloth.
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Natively, there's only two things that will scratch the display; both within your control. Gorilla Glass scratches with sand and silica. Keep it away from those and you should be fine. If the display and or pen are dirty, there's a chance something on either could cause scratches; potentially bad ones. Keep eye glass cleaning wipes handy to clean both frequently and you should be fine. Either way bad things happen to portable devices sometimes so luck and fate play a role too.
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Probably some are defective though - mine Asus Trasnformer has many scratches while I never had sand or silica near it. The worst scratch is probably from when it was lying on the table screen down - there was only sugar and some breadcrumbs there. I have also a lot of smaller scratches on the border (outside of screen mostly, but still on the glass). I suspect Gorilla Glass in this unit is a little defective. It's only a theory though. For comparison - I had eye glassess from normal glass for 10 years that I treated without any respect and they didn't have any scratches. Also no scratch on my phone which has to survive worse treatment than the tablet.
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Its physically impossible for the plastic nib to scratch glass. But like the other guy said, any particles in between the nib and the screen could cause a scratch. I've experienced this myself personally on my Note. Just make sure the screen and nib are clean, and if you're gonna be using the tablet in an environment where it could be subjected to dust particles or whatever, I'd highly recommend a screen protector. Oh, one other thing, what looks like scratches could just be the pen cutting through finger grease on the screen. There have been many times where I thought I got a bunch of little scratches on my screen, but then was relieved to find out that was not the case.
As a sidenote, what's with reviewers these days? It's like they're all doing every thing they can to discredit the Note and make sure it fails.
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I'm also surprised at the flurry of negative reviews and the tendency to describe the S Pen as a gimmick. At some point, I read that Steve Jobs had rejected the idea of a stylus being useful, on the grounds that people would prefer the simplicity of using a finger. The reasoning makes me think he was envisioning the stylus a la Palm circa 2006, which did little more than navigation. I wonder if reviewers are deferential to Jobs' opinion without examining his reasoning (if the account I encountered is in fact true) -- the Note S Pen offers a lot more utility than the old Palm styli ever did.
Otherwise, I suppose those reviewers must have different purposes in mind for a tablet. The Note 10.1 is my first tablet, as it's the first time I've considered any tablet to offer enough utility above my laptop and smartphone to be worth several hundred dollars.
Jobs was simply a ........ POSER
Maybe he did not even ever work with a Compaq iPac which was an excellent device at it's time (BTW: the Compaq was also "flat with rounded corners" and had an "i" in front of the "Pac" )
He developed devices to the philosophy: take the best hardware developed by other brilliant companies, design the OS as simple as possible (spares a hell of money), check if three year old children get along with the device ( knowing that 90% of the people are too lazy to invest some brains), make Chinese workers assemble the devices for nothing, force consumers to stay in the Apple world, sell it for a hell of money, make a religion of "Apple", and finally go on a Djihad against all companies that make Apple devices possible firsthand.
Like RedBull his only merit was to be an excellent merchandiser.
BTW: EXACTLY THE STYLUS WAS THE REASON FOR ME TO BUY THIS PIECE OF DIGITAL ART
BarryH_GEG said:
Natively, there's only two things that will scratch the display; both within your control. Gorilla Glass scratches with sand and silica. Keep it away from those and you should be fine. If the display and or pen are dirty, there's a chance something on either could cause scratches; potentially bad ones. Keep eye glass cleaning wipes handy to clean both frequently and you should be fine. Either way bad things happen to portable devices sometimes so luck and fate play a role too.
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I can't post links yet, but Google smudgeguard. It is a very useful glove that was created for artist which is a perfect accessory for the note. At $16 it is a good investment IMO. Granted dollar store gloves with the fingers cut would work but these actually look nice and are designed to prevent smudging.
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I can't post links yet, but Google smudgeguard. It is a very useful glove that was created for artist which is a perfect accessory for the note. At $16 it is a good investment IMO. Granted dollar store gloves with the fingers cut would work but these actually look nice and are designed to prevent smudging.
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When I wear my smudge guard the Note still registers touches so you're better off with a thicker glove.
I remember seeing one a few months ago aimed toward the iPad crowd. I can't remember the name at the moment though. I'll post back if I remember or find it.
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ugotproblemz said:
In a review of the Galaxy note 10.1 written by examiner they claim that when using the S-pen it can scratch you screen, and that it is only visible under the sunlight with the power off.
Can any note owners confirm this?
LINK :http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-tries-hard-but-ultimately-fails
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We had the same report about the ThinkPad Tablet and I never found it to be true. I've had mine nearly a year, used the pen extensively, and zero scratches with zero screen protector. YMMV If your pen nib is rough then you'll have a problem.
The one piece of plastic sticking on your sony xperia z's screen is NOT a screen guard.Since Sony is not using gorilla glass they have gone cheaper way ,by adhering some sort of plastic covering.Actually the sony logo is on the front plastic sheet,so if you remove it you also permenantly lose the logo too.I was originally thinking "how nice of sony to add an extra screen guard in the pack" infact those screen guards need to be applied before start using the phone.The plastic film prefitted once scratched ,can not removed I think,some people who tried to do that have ended up smudging thier screen.This information is from a retailer who recently had attended workshop conducted by Sony
Sorry for the wrong title
I meant" NEVER Remove the plastic cover on your screen"
The Xperia Z has Dragontail and Gorilla Glass! The anti-shatter film is just extra protection for bigger falls, something that probably will not solve! If Sony had worried not to remove, would extra film in all boxes, because in my not come!
That film is used to hold the screen when it shatters.
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The plastic film prefitted once scratched ,can not removed I think,some people who tried to do that have ended up smudging thier screen.
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There's threads on this already as some People have taken it off. I wouldn't recommend it but each to their own.
My biggest gripe is the misunderstanding and misinformation.
The sheet fitted is Anti Shatter, the one in the box is a screen protector that should be fitted immediately, on top of the Anti Shatter.
It is NOT extra.
Neither of them are scratch resistant, and finger prints are pretty awful on the screen protector.
If you want scratch resistance and lower finger print visibility, you may want to either, get a better screen protector than the one it comes with (in the box) or go the unofficial route of removing the anti shatter film.
Bear in mind, all the anti shatter is going to do is hold the pieces of glass together when you smash it to pieces, it won't prevent it getting smashed.
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alias_neo said:
My biggest gripe is the misunderstanding and misinformation.
The sheet fitted is Anti Shatter, the one in the box is a screen protector that should be fitted immediately, on top of the Anti Shatter.
It is NOT extra.
Neither of them are scratch resistant, and finger prints are pretty awful on the screen protector.
If you want scratch resistance and lower finger print visibility, you may want to either, get a better screen protector than the one it comes with (in the box) or go the unofficial route of removing the anti shatter film.
Bear in mind, all the anti shatter is going to do is hold the pieces of glass together when you smash it to pieces, it won't prevent it getting smashed.
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Well written,
There is so much misinformation floating around about the XZ. The anti shatter membrane is just one of many. Your post is accurate.
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mathen said:
The one piece of plastic sticking on your sony xperia z's screen is NOT a screen guard.Since Sony is not using gorilla glass they have gone cheaper way ,by adhering some sort of plastic covering.Actually the sony logo is on the front plastic sheet,so if you remove it you also permenantly lose the logo too.I was originally thinking "how nice of sony to add an extra screen guard in the pack" infact those screen guards need to be applied before start using the phone.The plastic film prefitted once scratched ,can not removed I think,some people who tried to do that have ended up smudging thier screen.This information is from a retailer who recently had attended workshop conducted by Sony
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With due respect to you may I suggest you do some research? I an not going to repeat the words written by alias_neo above. I would just add that for you to write that Sony has used a cheaper glass is incorrect. There is nothing at all cheap about Dragontrail glass. I do NOT work in the glass industry but from what I am informed by those that do both Dragontrail and Corning glass make very strong, thin, and anti scratch glasses. Both share similar properties but both have different strengths and weaknesses.
Point is Sony did not go cheap. If anything Sony went different or even up market. Both Corning and Dragontrail will shatter. The only crystal that won't is (obviously diamond) sapphire glass . Even if sapphire glass was used the cost of the phone would be well beyond what the majority of consumers could afford. A typical wrist watch crystal made from sapphire glass costs around 300.00 to 1,500.00€ depending on the shape and we know how small a wrist watch is.
The obvious challenges facing glass manufacturers being thickness. The consumer apparently wants thin phones that weigh less than a sheet of paper. This is why battery and functionality have gone out of the window. If we, the consumer, just allowed the devices to be slightly thicker and a tad heavier we could see longer lasting battery life and stronger glass.
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Sony uses Gorilla Glass and Dragontrail for the Xperia Z. There were rumors that they put Dragontrail on the screen and Gorilla Glass on the back, but Sony officially said that's not like it is. Due to the high demands for mobile phone glass, Sony is supplied with glass from two sources. So either your XZ has Gorilla Glass or Dragontrail. I honestly believe in the rumor, because technically and logistically it makes sense, and this picture is a strong indicator that the rumor might be true.
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It is odd that the only Major brand of mobile phones that does not state in its specification is Sony with regard the XZ. Other brands who use Corning or whatever state the brand of glass used.
IF Sony are using two brands of glass why not state that in the specification?
Logistically using two brands would actually double the opportunity for production run problems. I can't see Corning nor Dragontrail having supply problems? Its puzzling.
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Logistically using two brands would actually double the opportunity for production run problems. I can't see Corning nor Dragontrail having supply problems? Its puzzling.
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Dragontrail is made in Japan from a Japanese Company. And the display panels also (either JDC or Sharp).
Since the display panel is glued / laminated to the front glass and therefore becomes a single component with the glass, it might be good in some way to have both suppliers for that component close together. This is just a guess. I'm not even sure that Sharp and JDC are actually producing in Japan.
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Dragontrail is made in Japan from a Japanese Company. And the display panels also (either JDC or Sharp).
Since the display panel is glued / laminated to the front glass and therefore becomes a single component with the glass, it might be good in some way to have both suppliers for that component close together. This is just a guess. I'm not even sure that Sharp and JDC are actually producing in Japan.
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Also, it is cheaper.
Gorilla glass is used for back.
Dragontrail screen is possible but definitely not gorilla glass as all product use this screen will publish in gorilla glass official website.
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Dragontrail is made in Japan from a Japanese Company. And the display panels also (either JDC or Sharp).
Since the display panel is glued / laminated to the front glass and therefore becomes a single component with the glass, it might be good in some way to have both suppliers for that component close together. This is just a guess. I'm not even sure that Sharp and JDC are actually producing in Japan.
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That is also something else that puzzles the hell out of me? Why would Sony, who manufacture their own TV screens, contract out this screen to another manufacturer? Its all so odd?
I doubt, though I do not know, that neither the Sharp nor JDC branded screens are actually made IN Japan? Is anything made there now?
All food for thought and yet again we raise more questions than answers .
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Also, it is cheaper.
Gorilla glass is used for back.
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Source please. Many thanks .:good:
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That is also something else that puzzles the hell out of me? Why would Sony, who manufacture their own TV screens, contract out this screen to another manufacturer? Its all so odd?
I doubt, though I do not know, that neither the Sharp nor JDC branded screens are actually made IN Japan? Is anything made there now?
All food for thought and yet again we raise more questions than answers .
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Source please. Many thanks .:good:
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In my Sony smart tv it's gorilla,
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BR4DOKYBrazil said:
The Xperia Z has Dragontail and Gorilla Glass! The anti-shatter film is just extra protection for bigger falls, something that probably will not solve! If Sony had worried not to remove, would extra film in all boxes, because in my not come!
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I agree that its shatter proof film,(my intension was good - i was just discouraging removal of the same,i too was tempted to remove them expecting a better looking display,)sorry for the mistake,but i differ to agree that sony is using gorilla,as there multiple sources denying the same.
after the violent response from fellow members ,i did exhaustive reserch and it seems no on is sure some says it has both ie another glass sandwich – Dragontrail glass on the front and Gorilla Glass on the rear.
http://pocketnow.com/2013/03/13/sony-xperia-z-review
xperia-z-not-using-gorilla-glass-or-dragontrail
http://asf-mobiles.net/xperia-z-not-using-gorilla-glass-or-dragontrail-video/
any way ,i am not happy with sonys screen..
alias_neo said:
My biggest gripe is the misunderstanding and misinformation.
The sheet fitted is Anti Shatter, the one in the box is a screen protector that should be fitted immediately, on top of the Anti Shatter.
It is NOT extra.
Neither of them are scratch resistant, and finger prints are pretty awful on the screen protector.
If you want scratch resistance and lower finger print visibility, you may want to either, get a better screen protector than the one it comes with (in the box) or go the unofficial route of removing the anti shatter film.
Bear in mind, all the anti shatter is going to do is hold the pieces of glass together when you smash it to pieces, it won't prevent it getting smashed.
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I am sorry but the screen protectors are not always included in packages in all countries. So it IS extra.
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I am sorry but the screen protectors are not always included in packages in all countries. So it IS extra.
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You are correct, some countries get a dock instead, but if we get into semantics, my point is that the fitted film is not a screen protector therefore not making the "in the box" screen protector "spare", it is not secondary, additional, extra, or spare in the sense that it is equivalent to the anti shatter film, it is complimentary to, part of the whole, one might say.
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You are correct, some countries get a dock instead, but if we get into semantics, my point is that the fitted film is not a screen protector therefore not making the "in the box" screen protector "spare", it is not secondary, additional, extra, or spare in the sense that it is equivalent to the anti shatter film, it is complimentary to, part of the whole, one might say.
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In that context you are right :silly:
alias_neo said:
My biggest gripe is the misunderstanding and misinformation.
The sheet fitted is Anti Shatter, the one in the box is a screen protector that should be fitted immediately, on top of the Anti Shatter.
It is NOT extra.
Neither of them are scratch resistant, and finger prints are pretty awful on the screen protector.
If you want scratch resistance and lower finger print visibility, you may want to either, get a better screen protector than the one it comes with (in the box) or go the unofficial route of removing the anti shatter film.
Bear in mind, all the anti shatter is going to do is hold the pieces of glass together when you smash it to pieces, it won't prevent it getting smashed.
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Good....
:*: Neebi :*:
I'm new to Sony Xperia phones and didn't realize that they use a plastic cover over the glass. I know its to keep it shatterproof, but it kind of defeats the purpose of having a scratch proof glass front and back. Seems the plastic covering will get scratched up over time. Mine it just a few days old and I already have a small scratch on the back
Do any of you keep your phones in case? I really liked the XZ for its beauty and would rather use it without a case, but worry about the scratches now.
Anyone recommend a really good screen protectors, perhaps one that is really clear like glass and has oleophobic properties?
few days and there is a noticeable scratch. I am very careful with the screen but have no screen protectors. What kind of glass Samsung used. I’m not even sure this screen is real glass, maybe it sort of plastic.
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few days and there is a noticeable scratch. I am very careful with the screen but have no screen protectors. What kind of glass Samsung used. I’m not even sure this screen is real glass, maybe it sort of plastic.
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Lol really. You no nothing then.
It's glass and very strong glass at that.
I had mines without a protector for 2wks and didn't get a single scratch on mine.
So some how you got something on it and it got scratch. The in thing that scratches screen the worse is sand
Have had mine for over a month. No screen protector, no scratches. In and out of my pockets all day.
I did laugh when I read some sort of plastic lol.
Btw this is the glass on the note edge.
http://youtu.be/r_40sBbpBVg .
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Lol really. You no nothing then.
It's glass and very strong glass at that.
I had mines without a protector for 2wks and didn't get a single scratch on mine.
So some how you got something on it and it got scratch. The in thing that scratches screen the worse is sand
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Just look at it in the sunlight at an angle and see if it has some scratch.
And there is no info in samsung what type glass it used
The same thing happens with note 4
Note 4 use Gorilla Glass 4
Note Edge use Gorilla Glass 3
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Note 4 use Gorilla Glass 4
Note Edge use Gorilla Glass 3
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Where you found about Note Edge. No info at Corning's own website or Samsung
Only reviews saying that it has Gorilla Glass 3 but does not mean it has.
It's gorilla glass 3.
My girl has drop her phone from waist high and landed face frist on the kitchen floor and didn't have one sratch on it.
So either your got a cheap copy or you where way to ruff with the phone.
As said o went 2 weeks without a protector and don't have any sratch at all. Not a one. Then I put a protector on it.
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Where you found about Note Edge. No info at Corning's own website or Samsung
Only reviews saying that it has Gorilla Glass 3 but does not mean it has.
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Come on man, do a Google Search. All the review sites are very reputable tech sites. But to appease you here is a snapshot of a chat I just had with Samsung notice the website name.
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Now stop your complaining and own up that you made a mistake and happen to scratch your screen. Crap happens. Btw I've turned my phone every which way in the sun no scratches.
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Come on man, do a Google Search. All the review sites are very reputable tech sites. But to appease you here is a snapshot of a chat I just had with Samsung notice the website name.
Now stop your complaining and own up that you made a mistake and happen to scratch your screen. Crap happens. Btw I've turned my phone every which way in the sun no scratches.
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I often use gsmarena to check out specs on phone. Not perfect but generally a good resource.
As you reported: Corning Gorilla Glass 3
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_edge-6631.php
EDIT: Also, according to gsmarena, Note 4 uses Corning Gorilla Glass 4.
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I often use gsmarena to check out specs on phone. Not perfect but generally a good resource.
As you reported: Corning Gorilla Glass 3
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_edge-6631.php
EDIT: Also, according to gsmarena, Note 4 uses Corning Gorilla Glass 4.
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Ok let us say it Gorilla Glass. This means Gorilla Glass is not that resistance to scratch. Since the first day I have my phone in a case.
I also have have about 3 minor scratches on my Note Edge and I haven't had mine a month yet.. it is EXTREMELY annoying and I am trying to find a way to rid my screen of these scratches, I am OCD about my phones and not sure how it happened. Even been thinking about calling Samsung to see if there is anything that can be done.. so don't feel bad @funfun99999 you're not alone.
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Ok let us say it Gorilla Glass. This means Gorilla Glass is not that resistance to scratch. Since the first day I have my phone in a case.
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I just Googled "hardness of gorilla glass" and quickly found this.
http://en.miui.com/thread-40353-1-1.html
Basically, if a material is harder than the Gorilla Glass is can scratch it.
For example, something with a hardness of sand will scratch Gorilla glass so be careful at your local sand box or beach!
Perhaps, your screen was accidentally exposed to a harder material and you just didn't notice it at the time. Who knows, it
happens to the best of us.
EDIT:You know, it is always possible that some substandard Gorilla Glass was used. The problem here is who wants to volunteer using their Edge screen to test this! Also, unlikely Samsung or Corning would admit any wrong doing...
funfun99999 said:
Ok let us say it Gorilla Glass. This means Gorilla Glass is not that resistance to scratch. Since the first day I have my phone in a case.
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When I read the first post I was like wow this guy is ignorant, read this post and now I'm fairly convinced you don't have the slightest idea as to how Gorilla Glass works.
Fortified glass such as Gorilla Glass is not resistant to scratches, heck even diamond isn't shatter proof nor scratch proof (given the right material).
They are obviously harder to scratch than your standard glass but something will eventually scratch it if it's hard enough.
Do you want to know what the easiest thing to scratch your phone screen on is? Sand, it's abundant, you probably have a whole pile of it in your pockets.
Sand has hardness that is greater than glass and even Gorilla Glass which means when your screen comes in contact with sand it has the ability to scratch your screen.
Please don't go off blaming the product when you don't even know sufficient information about how the technology behind it all works.
"Since the first day I have my phone in a case" (lolwut?) Putting your phone in a case doesn't guarantee that you won't get scratches.
If you're that worried invest in a screen protector. I've had this phone for 2 months with no case or screen protector and still not a single scratch on the screen.
Maybe you should start washing your pants more often with the pockets inside out as well.
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iCUE220 said:
I also have have about 3 minor scratches on my Note Edge and I haven't had mine a month yet.. it is EXTREMELY annoying and I am trying to find a way to rid my screen of these scratches, I am OCD about my phones and not sure how it happened. Even been thinking about calling Samsung to see if there is anything that can be done.. so don't feel bad @funfun99999 you're not alone.
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There's no real method of getting scratches off Gorilla Glass haha
Just get over it, it happens, nothing in this world can be perfect and resistant to everything.
Move on with your life, that scratch on your phone is not worth your time.
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Speedin07si said:
Come on man, do a Google Search. All the review sites are very reputable tech sites. But to appease you here is a snapshot of a chat I just had with Samsung notice the website name.
Now stop your complaining and own up that you made a mistake and happen to scratch your screen. Crap happens. Btw I've turned my phone every which way in the sun no scratches.
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Gotta love it when people can't own up to their own mistakes or do adequate research eh?
I can safely say these two things do not scratch the screen with a light swipe. I'm sure if I put a great deal of force I could.
I subjected my note edge screen to the following and I didn't find a single scratch...
tospace2006 said:
When I read the first post I was like wow this guy is ignorant, read this post and now I'm fairly convinced you don't have the slightest idea as to how Gorilla Glass works.
Fortified glass such as Gorilla Glass is not resistant to scratches, heck even diamond isn't shatter proof nor scratch proof (given the right material).
They are obviously harder to scratch than your standard glass but something will eventually scratch it if it's hard enough.
Do you want to know what the easiest thing to scratch your phone screen on is? Sand, it's abundant, you probably have a whole pile of it in your pockets.
Sand has hardness that is greater than glass and even Gorilla Glass which means when your screen comes in contact with sand it has the ability to scratch your screen.
Please don't go off blaming the product when you don't even know sufficient information about how the technology behind it all works.
"Since the first day I have my phone in a case" (lolwut?) Putting your phone in a case doesn't guarantee that you won't get scratches.
If you're that worried invest in a screen protector. I've had this phone for 2 months with no case or screen protector and still not a single scratch on the screen.
Maybe you should start washing your pants more often with the pockets inside out as well.
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There's no real method of getting scratches off Gorilla Glass haha
Just get over it, it happens, nothing in this world can be perfect and resistant to everything.
Move on with your life, that scratch on your phone is not worth your time.
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Gotta love it when people can't own up to their own mistakes or do adequate research eh?
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yep knowledge is power, he must of been an iphone user lol...
Speedin07si said:
I can safely say these two things do not scratch the screen with a light swipe. I'm sure if I put a great deal of force I could.
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yep believe it or not those are softer metal then the glass. The same thing with keys there softer.
They did a test before. use knives, keys, metal rings etc... and they didnt do anything.
But a small part of 1000 grit sand paper wipe out the screen. Sand is pretty hard and hell thats whats glass is made off.
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When I read the first post I was like wow this guy is ignorant, read this post and now I'm fairly convinced you don't have the slightest idea as to how Gorilla Glass works.
Fortified glass such as Gorilla Glass is not resistant to scratches, heck even diamond isn't shatter proof nor scratch proof (given the right material).
They are obviously harder to scratch than your standard glass but something will eventually scratch it if it's hard enough.
Do you want to know what the easiest thing to scratch your phone screen on is? Sand, it's abundant, you probably have a whole pile of it in your pockets.
Sand has hardness that is greater than glass and even Gorilla Glass which means when your screen comes in contact with sand it has the ability to scratch your screen.
Please don't go off blaming the product when you don't even know sufficient information about how the technology behind it all works.
"Since the first day I have my phone in a case" (lolwut?) Putting your phone in a case doesn't guarantee that you won't get scratches.
If you're that worried invest in a screen protector. I've had this phone for 2 months with no case or screen protector and still not a single scratch on the screen.
Maybe you should start washing your pants more often with the pockets inside out as well.
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I see you just Defending Corning and Samsung. I believe you have scratches at your phone just look in sunlight at angle and you will see minor scratches at the screen.
I have my Note Edge 5 weeks scratch free
I purchased mine on Jan 9th first day of Verizon release. I have an Incipio case on it. I have dropped my phone more than once and on the face, it remains scratch free. The case has several scars and marks and a crack. I'm happy with the durability of my phone. Sorry to hear of the unhappy results with yours.
funfun99999 said:
I see you just Defending Corning and Samsung. I believe you have scratches at your phone just look in sunlight at angle and you will see minor scratches at the screen.
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And so the ignorance continues... I am in no way defending Corning. How did Samsung even come into play? I never even mentioned Samsung once.
We were talking specifically about the technology that makes our modern day phones relatively scratch resistant when used correctly.
I mentioned that Corning's gorilla glass and other fortified glass is not completely scratch resistant. This is not my opinion. This is not me defending Corning. This is a fact....
I know for a fact that my phone will eventually collect scratches since I'm a user who doesn't use a screen protector,
but please don't state that you know my device better than I do when you can't even grasp the simple concept that nothing can be completely scratch proof.
When those scratches do finally appear I won't go on the internet and complain that these companies are making false claims and making inferior products to what they advertise.
Without their technology, the simple act of putting your phone in and pulling it out of a pocket could probably put many scratches on your device.
Have the dignity to just admit maybe you ran into some element in your pocket, on a desk or even on your finger that could have put the scratch there.
Cause at the end of the day a scratch doesn't just magically appear out of nowhere on any material, you clearly came in contact with some sort of element that you are not aware of.
Do your damn research, get learnt, knowledge is power and maybe next time you won't make such a big fool out of yourself on the internet.
I'm trying to be as informative as possible so you can understand where these scratches come from, no need to get so defensive man.
xile6 said:
yep knowledge is power, he must of been an iphone user lol...
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+1 to this