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So gingerbread is running on n900, hd2, iPhone3g and EVERY other android phone, EXCEPT the epic.
Why do these non-android phones have the latest build before we do?
What's so different in the epic that gingerbread won't work?
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Keyboard?
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Support and devs.
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Why do these non-android phones have the latest build before we do?
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I have no sympathy for what comes next.
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G2 has a kb...
And the n900 is a non-android phone with a keyboard running gingerbread...
Samsung mustve changed SOMETHING that normal companies like to use, including apple apparently
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We are bringing cyangenmod 6 to the epic .. then it will be easier to merge patches to gingerbread
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noobnl said:
We are bringing cyangenmod 6 to the epic .. then it will be easier to merge patches to gingerbread
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How much easier would it be wit froyo sauce straigh from samsung?
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We have no real deveelopers working on gingerbread and we are busy with our lives not to deal with guys like you
A_Flying_Fox said:
G2 has a kb...
And the n900 is a non-android phone with a keyboard running gingerbread...
Samsung mustve changed SOMETHING that normal companies like to use, including apple apparently
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How much easier would it be wit froyo sauce straigh from samsung?
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Most of the important stuff is done retardedly by Samsung, and they don't release source code for their retarded implementation. They make it pretty hard.

Well, at least this thread isn't about Froyo...

noobnl said:
We have no real deveelopers working on gingerbread and we are busy with our lives not to deal with guys like you
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Guys like me? Care to clarify?
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Come on OP, you've been here long enough not to make a thread about this. Really?

stir fry a lot said:
Come on OP, you've been here long enough not to make a thread about this. Really?
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I haven't seen anything about why is 2.3 hard to port...only threads about froyo
I was only curious. I wanna know if its because no one is working on it because they're working on cm6 or is there really something blocking it.
I don't mean to belittle the devs working on cm6, their hands are tied and this wasn't meant for them and I'm only waiting on mms to just flash it and never look back
I'm just a curious little monkey!
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I think he asking a legitimate question.
I wondered about that myself.Iphone 3g grts 2.3 and we dont-sht dont sound right.Devices that not meant to run Android are running it.Samsung already made thwir money of Epic why these mf's wont give us the source so we can make 2.3 ourself?

lviv73 said:
I think he asking a legitimate question.
I wondered about that myself.Iphone 3g grts 2.3 and we dont-sht dont sound right.Devices that not meant to run Android are running it.Samsung already made thwir money of Epic why these mf's wont give us the source so we can make 2.3 ourself?
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Have you seen it running on the iphone?
http://pocketnow.com/iphone/iphone-3g-gets-android-23-gingerbread-port
Its garbage. Its a proof of concept. We had gingerbread booting on the epic like a day after its release, but not in a functional state. Why completely rebuild an OS when you can take what we have and make it as functional as possible. It would be a waste of dev talents to hand build a Frankenstein gingerbread when there is so much else to work on.

othan1 said:
Well, at least this thread isn't about Froyo...
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Give it time
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pateince is a virtue.

heathmcabee said:
pateince is a virtue.
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Using the search button before posting stupid threads is also a virtue.

noobnl said:
We have no real deveelopers working on gingerbread and we are busy with our lives not to deal with guys like you
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And then you wonder why you get **** from people... God work, but cocky attitude
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now that the boot loader is unlocked...

Will there eventually be any roms that get rid of the webtop stuff all together? I have played around with it a bit and ultimately found it to be worthless and haven't used it since.
I want vanilla android! It sucks that is so much to ask for in this market. (I had Nexus S but cannot live with t-mo.

I'm sure there are devs working on porting ROMs such as CM7 or AOSP. Patience is key right now. I know some CM devs are receiving some Atrixes.
Give it a few weeks. ROMs don't appear over night.

Hopefully man I just want pure 100% android
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Sinful Animosity said:
I'm sure there are devs working on porting ROMs such as CM7 or AOSP. Patience is key right now. I know some CM devs are receiving some Atrixes.
Give it a few weeks. ROMs don't appear over night.
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Ooo neat cm7 devs getting atrixes is great news
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lesonal said:
Hopefully man I just want pure 100% android
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I can say for myself that I have been working on CM7 since Friday. Unfortunately I haven't gotten very far but I'm getting somewhere lol
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playin4sheezy said:
I can say for myself that I have been working on CM7 since Friday. Unfortunately I haven't gotten very far but I'm getting somewhere lol
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We all appreciate you work and you should work harder and keep in mind the ammount of donation you'll get.... damn it gonna be alot lol

Anyone else wanna see MIUI before cm7
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milesjohnson said:
Anyone else wanna see MIUI before cm7
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MIUI uses CM7 as a base. So no MIUI until CM7.

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Anyone else wanna see MIUI before cm7
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I would but isn't MiUi basically a variant if cm7? I thought I read that one time but could be wrong.
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Sorry for the noob comment...coming from an iPhone lol. Okay that makes more sense then
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playin4sheezy said:
I can say for myself that I have been working on CM7 since Friday. Unfortunately I haven't gotten very far but I'm getting somewhere lol
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We all appreciate you work and you should work harder and keep in mind the ammount of donation you'll get.... damn it gonna be alot lol

Where was it stated that CM devs are receiving Atrix devices?
I would kindly like to stalk them. In private though... don't want to piss them off.
*stitches up voodoo dolls of CM devs*

bongd said:
Where was it stated that CM devs are receiving Atrix devices?
I would kindly like to stalk them. In private though... don't want to piss them off.
*stitches up voodoo dolls of CM devs*
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i havent heard that etheir

Ibproud's twitter.
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Sinful Animosity said:
Ibproud's twitter.
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Thanks!
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lesonal said:
Hopefully man I just want pure 100% android
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Me too. I could care less about CyanogenMod. I want PURE ANDROID!!

I just want my Tegra 2 dual core phone to HANDLE LIVE WALLPAPERS.
I also want the WIFI to work (stopped detecting WiFi altogether)

Will be posible to port any variant of Honeycomb? Honey can handle the DualCore module, is AOSP and has HighRes. I think it will be better than any 2.x.x. Motorola Xoom has a very similar hardware so I don't think that it's imposble, but all you are the genius here
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Toushiro Hitsugaya said:
Will be posible to port any variant of Honeycomb? Honey can handle the DualCore module, is AOSP and has HighRes. I think it will be better than any 2.x.x. Motorola Xoom has a very similar hardware so I don't think that it's imposble, but all you are the genius here
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Multicore works perfectly fine in the current version of Android on the Atrix, as well as Gingerbread. Honeycomb will not be backported. Look forward to Ice Cream Sandwich instead, which is the "new hotness" I guess you could say.
If you want better multicore support, look to the app developers to add it into their apps. Android can run multicore but without support in the app, as I understand it, it won't use both cores. I am sure someone else with more knowledge about the underlying structure of Android could shed better light on the subject.
Honestly, where does this misinformation stem from?

BML vs MTD. Too soon to change for daily driver?

I'm still on bml because its more reliable and every thing works the way it's supposed to. I tried the cm7 rom and I lasted about 2 days and quickly realized that it was very limited in flexibility and function.
Granted, it was very smooth. I know it's the future but its still very beta. Just read all the mtd threads, and you'll see how some basic things are buggy or not working.
I'm a little disappointed that some of the devs are abandoning all ei22 bml support. Especially since official gingerbread isn't even fully mature yet.
I am happy that at least TW will be supported in MTD, that's a major plus for me.
What are your thoughts?
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I totally agree with you on this. I am trying to keep up on the MTD TW threads to see where the future is going but will remain probably on Legendary 2.1 with Shadowkernel for the immediate future because my phone is so freaking awesome right now!
As soon as Bbelos puts up 1.04 you guys should grab it! It will be phenomenal! All the speed you are used to and great voodoo color defaults (most will not need voodoo control app).

Well I happen to be the one that always says you'll come back. I have since moved to cm7 because earthbound put out the cm7 kernel I missed the first time I moved. I do have a few bugs I'm dealing with atm but nothing to hard to workaround. To be honest I don't see much improvment from mtd to bml or than the space and file system. As of now its just not too different however once the devs start to tear it apart and see how stuff works is when things will start to pick up. However they must be getting somewhere since there has been multiple updates on cm7 since to mtd move compared to bml.
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Mtd is awesome!!!!!!!
Im running tortel1210's TWMTD rom and its amazing with Samurai3.3.1MTD and Ii really can see somewhat of a difference. On BML my phone was not able to run certain programs like chainfire correctly. Games like Trainz,SHADOWGUN, and GTA 3 would not play. After switching to MTD these games run smooth as ever and I have seen change in the behavior of many apps I have downloaded. MTD in my opinion will save the Epic from discontinuation of development on it. Mabye ports like working sense can finally be achieved from this new propietary system

Imho mtd is waay more reliable. I haven't got any of the dreaded gingerbread corruption.
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xopher.hunter said:
Imho mtd is waay more reliable. I haven't got any of the dreaded gingerbread corruption.
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I haven't had any problems with Gingerbread on BML. I always make sure journaling is enabled.
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kennyglass123 said:
I haven't had any problems with Gingerbread on BML. I always make sure journaling is enabled.
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Bml/rfs is fine. Bml/ext4 sucks (even if journaling is enabled). Mtd/yaffs2 FTW!!
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Phantomg93 said:
Im running tortel1210's TWMTD rom and its amazing with Samurai3.3.1MTD and Ii really can see somewhat of a difference. On BML my phone was not able to run certain programs like chainfire correctly. Games like Trainz,SHADOWGUN, and GTA 3 would not play. After switching to MTD these games run smooth as ever and I have seen change in the behavior of many apps I have downloaded. MTD in my opinion will save the Epic from discontinuation of development on it. Mabye ports like working sense can finally be achieved from this new propietary system
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Chainfire works fine for me on bml/rfs. I've been playing Shadowgun and Deadspace all afternoon.
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xopher.hunter said:
Bml/rfs is fine. Bml/ext4 sucks (even if journaling is enabled). Mtd/yaffs2 FTW!!
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Wow! Don't sugar coat it Xopher...how do you really feel? LOL. A lot of people said that about EXT4 vs. RFS but there are still those that prefer RFS. I am not ready for the MTD jump yet but may check it out in the months to come.
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I love MTD. Between CM7, marcusant V2 and the Stock MTD ROM, I see no reason to switch back to BML.

kennyglass123 said:
Wow! Don't sugar coat it Xopher...how do you really feel? LOL. A lot of people said that about EXT4 vs. RFS but there are still those that prefer RFS. I am not ready for the MTD jump yet but may check it out in the months to come.
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You should just take the jump once Earthbound comes out with his updated cm kernel so far cm7 has been everything I wanted it to be. Much faster game wise than two I don't quite understand it but its amazingly fast. Try it at least. I have yet to regret it.
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Biggoron said:
You should just take the jump once Earthbound comes out with his updated cm kernel so far cm7 has been everything I wanted it to be. Much faster game wise than two I don't quite understand it but its amazingly fast. Try it at least. I have yet to regret it.
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Can't. I use 4G a lot.
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Awe 4g too bad alright stay where your at mtd tw is the same as bml tw. Cm is a whole nother beast.
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Biggoron said:
Awe 4g too bad alright stay where your at mtd tw is the same as bml tw. Cm is a whole nother beast.
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I am hoping that we will see CM9 and LTE working together in the summer on the new phones.
Merry Christmas B!
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kennyglass123 said:
I am hoping that we will see CM9 and LTE working together in the summer on the new phones.
Merry Christmas B!
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That's what I'm waiting for too. No 4g is the deal breaker for me to.
My 4g service is awesome in my area, no rom can be so good that I would sacrifice my 4g for it.
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I am hoping that we will see CM9 and LTE working together in the summer on the new phones.
Merry Christmas B!
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Yessir, it's going to be Epic.
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thomasskull666 said:
Yessir, it's going to be Epic.
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So .... you holding out on us again ? Got sum inside info to share ? LOL !

TexasEpic4G said:
So .... you holding out on us again ? Got sum inside info to share ? LOL !
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Heh I wish, I did see something about a quad core HTC phone that I'm *hoping* is on Sprint.
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I've been running MarcusantRom on mtd since he released it, and it is great! I have had no problems on v2. I like the room that my internal memory now had. I always had "low memory" messages on bml roms.
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Heh I wish, I did see something about a quad core HTC phone that I'm *hoping* is on Sprint.
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I WANT IT! I read somewhere that the Galaxy S III will be quadcore. I wonder when it is coming out
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seanknighton said:
I wonder when it is coming out
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In due time.
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I want to learn to port or make a ROM

So I want to try and learn how ROMs work. Or maybe that's a little bit too much to start with, maybe mods and hacks and stuff. Is there any tutorials on how to start anything that has to do with development that someone has actually used and learned from and worked with him that you can point me out to? Or at least can someone tell me where I should start to be able to learn all that I need to know?
I've done some theming and editing .xml files and decompliling and stuff so its not that I don't know anything, just don't know enough.
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lilajrestnom said:
So I want to try and learn how ROMs work. Or maybe that's a little bit too much to start with, maybe mods and hacks and stuff. Is there any tutorials on how to start anything that has to do with development that someone has actually used and learned from and worked with him that you can point me out to? Or at least can someone tell me where I should start to be able to learn all that I need to know?
I've done some theming and editing .xml files and decompliling and stuff so its not that I don't know anything, just don't know enough.
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There's tutorials all over these sub forums for the Samsung Epic 4g
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XxLostSoulxX said:
There's tutorials all over these sub forums for the Samsung Epic 4g
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I understand that, but I was hoping someone could point me to one that they actually did learn from because I tried reading 2 different ones and got confused.
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lilajrestnom said:
I understand that, but I was hoping someone could point me to one that they actually did learn from because I tried reading 2 different ones and got confused.
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I can teach you. What do you want to port? Blur? Touchwiz four? Xperia UI? Something less challenging?
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Yes young padawan. You have much to learn in the ways of the force.

No disrespect to the OP or anyone else, but if you have to ask how then you aren't ready.
Do some research: take apart zips, find out how things work. Learn about Android as a whole (helps to also learn how 'nix) works also, Android is of course based largely on it), and most importantly trial and error.
The force is strong in this one, I can feel it. But he must complete the trials in order to fully understand the true nature of the force.
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He must face his fears in the cave of 7zip.
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Also, I can teach you to build from source too. I'd love to be a source based rom guy, but unfortunately, I feel that most open source roms are the same (Gummy, AOKP, CNA, and CM9 look and feel identical to me) so I don't waste my time.
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xboxfanj said:
Also, I can teach you to build from source too. I'd love to be a source based rom guy, but unfortunately, I feel that most open source roms are the same (Gummy, AOKP, CNA, and CM9 look and feel identical to me) so I don't waste my time.
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Can you teach me
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Can you teach me
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You want to know from source right?
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I plan on making my own aosp ROM. Going to merge all my favorite mods that roms have. The audio makeup of CM9, customization of aokp and so on ans so forth. I've already said too much.
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Well maybe I should be searching and doing things on my own but that's what I did when I started to theme a little bit and it worked out well. But I started by seeing one of travis' tutorials and with the help of shane with a lot of things.
So basically I need some help that's all.
And I too see that CM7/9, AOKP and all those are the same. Especially the 2 versions of MIUI. So I would like to start my own thing kind of like sence and blur. Sence would be something I would be interested in doing since I loved my htc phones before this one, but since its already started I will try and work on something else.
Ill pm you xboxfanj and we'll see how I can start working on it. And thanks for your offer =).
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ÜBER™ said:
I plan on making my own aosp ROM. Going to merge all my favorite mods that roms have. The audio makeup of CM9, customization of aokp and so on ans so forth. I've already said too much.
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I've done it before. It is hard to keep updated.
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Well maybe I should be searching and doing things on my own but that's what I did when I started to theme a little bit and it worked out well. But I started by seeing one of travis' tutorials and with the help of shane with a lot of things.
So basically I need some help that's all.
And I too see that CM7/9, AOKP and all those are the same. Especially the 2 versions of MIUI. So I would like to start my own thing kind of like sence and blur. Sence would be something I would be interested in doing since I loved my htc phones before this one, but since its already started I will try and work on something else.
Ill pm you xboxfanj and we'll see how I can start working on it. And thanks for your offer =).
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AOKP/CNA/Gummy is kinda like Sbrissen mod for touchwiz gingerbread roms on steroids. Like xbox said, the AOSP thing has been done to death on ICS. All we're getting at this point is some pointless fragmentation between the roms.
UBER/Biggorn/Big Goron or whatever name your using these days , I wish you luck with that endeavor. I tried to do my own for a couple months and realized that I was updating it every other day thanks to what was getting merged in on the other roms. Too much of a PITA for me so I went back to theming.

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I got the time .
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marcusant said:
I've done it before. It is hard to keep updated.
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Marcus, how about ACS ICS and MarcusantRom? Those were TW; were they hard to keep up to date?

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Marcus, how about ACS ICS and MarcusantRom? Those were TW; were they hard to keep up to date?
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TW is very easy to keep up to date since we only got a few GB updates. Those other ROMs get updates and merges every few days.
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You want to know from source right?
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Yea
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I wanna learn too. Become a real developer. See if I gots any skillz.
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I wanna learn too. Become a real developer. See if I gots any skillz.
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Haven't you made a rom for the Epic?
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Lack of sense 3 roms

So I was just noticing that as of late there aren't really any more sense 3 roms mainly just sense 1 do you guys know why that is or have developers just moved on
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Although I did see that dropzero said he is coming back soon to update the legendary rom!
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zacnking said:
Although I did see that dropzero said he is coming back soon to update the legendary rom!
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The Merge 4.0 is a sense 3 and aosp hybrid. It has all the normal sense things plus aosp dialer, contacts, gallery, and email. This was a team nocturnal project but they have moved on and TNN has taken over the project. I have plans on a couple more sense 3 roms but they are still in the future.

zacnking said:
So I was just noticing that as of late there aren't really any more sense 3 roms mainly just sense 1 do you guys know why that is or have developers just moved on
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The masses seem to want ICS and JB more than Sense,since this did come with Sense to begin with and never upgraded past 4.37(1.0).I myself am a Sense fan,since all the rest of the phones seems to upgrade to at least ICS,except ours,but that being said there is a new OS coming out by Nov of this year,which is Key Lime Pie,but who knows how long this will take to get a source code for that,then you have Firefox OS,which i know a guy thats working on getting us a code for our phone,so we can start on one for the OG,but i have a Sense 2.1 and 3.0 RUU,ill see what i can do with it and see if Aamikam has a few extra minutes to help me with combining them and his rom control.
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I like this, sense is so under rated. Feature rich and sexiness to boot. You guys been checking out new Sense 5.0 for the new One? Killer.
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CyanJustice said:
I like this, sense is so under rated. Feature rich and sexiness to boot. You guys been checking out new Sense 5.0 for the new One? Killer.
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Link me to that Sense 5.0

Diablo67 said:
Link me to that Sense 5.0
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http://m.gizmodo.com/5990214/htc-sense-50-review-better-but-also-worse
It's on the critical side of things, but it's the first thing that googled.
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I have seen a few bits and pieces of sense 5 and used to be all about touchwiz but since my epic died and I've been on the EVO I have been converted back to HTC. Do you guys know if sprint will be getting any sense 5 upgrades in the summer or this year
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zacnking said:
I have seen a few bits and pieces of sense 5 and used to be all about touchwiz but since my epic died and I've been on the EVO I have been converted back to HTC. Do you guys know if sprint will be getting any sense 5 upgrades in the summer or this year
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If you have any of the HTC Ones, yeah I'm they'll push Sense 5 to those.
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