So I want to try and learn how ROMs work. Or maybe that's a little bit too much to start with, maybe mods and hacks and stuff. Is there any tutorials on how to start anything that has to do with development that someone has actually used and learned from and worked with him that you can point me out to? Or at least can someone tell me where I should start to be able to learn all that I need to know?
I've done some theming and editing .xml files and decompliling and stuff so its not that I don't know anything, just don't know enough.
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So I want to try and learn how ROMs work. Or maybe that's a little bit too much to start with, maybe mods and hacks and stuff. Is there any tutorials on how to start anything that has to do with development that someone has actually used and learned from and worked with him that you can point me out to? Or at least can someone tell me where I should start to be able to learn all that I need to know?
I've done some theming and editing .xml files and decompliling and stuff so its not that I don't know anything, just don't know enough.
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There's tutorials all over these sub forums for the Samsung Epic 4g
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There's tutorials all over these sub forums for the Samsung Epic 4g
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I understand that, but I was hoping someone could point me to one that they actually did learn from because I tried reading 2 different ones and got confused.
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I understand that, but I was hoping someone could point me to one that they actually did learn from because I tried reading 2 different ones and got confused.
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I can teach you. What do you want to port? Blur? Touchwiz four? Xperia UI? Something less challenging?
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Yes young padawan. You have much to learn in the ways of the force.
No disrespect to the OP or anyone else, but if you have to ask how then you aren't ready.
Do some research: take apart zips, find out how things work. Learn about Android as a whole (helps to also learn how 'nix) works also, Android is of course based largely on it), and most importantly trial and error.
The force is strong in this one, I can feel it. But he must complete the trials in order to fully understand the true nature of the force.
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He must face his fears in the cave of 7zip.
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Also, I can teach you to build from source too. I'd love to be a source based rom guy, but unfortunately, I feel that most open source roms are the same (Gummy, AOKP, CNA, and CM9 look and feel identical to me) so I don't waste my time.
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Also, I can teach you to build from source too. I'd love to be a source based rom guy, but unfortunately, I feel that most open source roms are the same (Gummy, AOKP, CNA, and CM9 look and feel identical to me) so I don't waste my time.
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Can you teach me
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Can you teach me
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You want to know from source right?
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I plan on making my own aosp ROM. Going to merge all my favorite mods that roms have. The audio makeup of CM9, customization of aokp and so on ans so forth. I've already said too much.
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Well maybe I should be searching and doing things on my own but that's what I did when I started to theme a little bit and it worked out well. But I started by seeing one of travis' tutorials and with the help of shane with a lot of things.
So basically I need some help that's all.
And I too see that CM7/9, AOKP and all those are the same. Especially the 2 versions of MIUI. So I would like to start my own thing kind of like sence and blur. Sence would be something I would be interested in doing since I loved my htc phones before this one, but since its already started I will try and work on something else.
Ill pm you xboxfanj and we'll see how I can start working on it. And thanks for your offer =).
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I plan on making my own aosp ROM. Going to merge all my favorite mods that roms have. The audio makeup of CM9, customization of aokp and so on ans so forth. I've already said too much.
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I've done it before. It is hard to keep updated.
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Well maybe I should be searching and doing things on my own but that's what I did when I started to theme a little bit and it worked out well. But I started by seeing one of travis' tutorials and with the help of shane with a lot of things.
So basically I need some help that's all.
And I too see that CM7/9, AOKP and all those are the same. Especially the 2 versions of MIUI. So I would like to start my own thing kind of like sence and blur. Sence would be something I would be interested in doing since I loved my htc phones before this one, but since its already started I will try and work on something else.
Ill pm you xboxfanj and we'll see how I can start working on it. And thanks for your offer =).
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AOKP/CNA/Gummy is kinda like Sbrissen mod for touchwiz gingerbread roms on steroids. Like xbox said, the AOSP thing has been done to death on ICS. All we're getting at this point is some pointless fragmentation between the roms.
UBER/Biggorn/Big Goron or whatever name your using these days , I wish you luck with that endeavor. I tried to do my own for a couple months and realized that I was updating it every other day thanks to what was getting merged in on the other roms. Too much of a PITA for me so I went back to theming.
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I've done it before. It is hard to keep updated.
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I got the time .
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I've done it before. It is hard to keep updated.
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Marcus, how about ACS ICS and MarcusantRom? Those were TW; were they hard to keep up to date?
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Marcus, how about ACS ICS and MarcusantRom? Those were TW; were they hard to keep up to date?
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TW is very easy to keep up to date since we only got a few GB updates. Those other ROMs get updates and merges every few days.
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You want to know from source right?
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Yea
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I wanna learn too. Become a real developer. See if I gots any skillz.
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I wanna learn too. Become a real developer. See if I gots any skillz.
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Haven't you made a rom for the Epic?
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So gingerbread is running on n900, hd2, iPhone3g and EVERY other android phone, EXCEPT the epic.
Why do these non-android phones have the latest build before we do?
What's so different in the epic that gingerbread won't work?
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Keyboard?
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Support and devs.
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Why do these non-android phones have the latest build before we do?
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I have no sympathy for what comes next.
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G2 has a kb...
And the n900 is a non-android phone with a keyboard running gingerbread...
Samsung mustve changed SOMETHING that normal companies like to use, including apple apparently
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We are bringing cyangenmod 6 to the epic .. then it will be easier to merge patches to gingerbread
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We are bringing cyangenmod 6 to the epic .. then it will be easier to merge patches to gingerbread
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How much easier would it be wit froyo sauce straigh from samsung?
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We have no real deveelopers working on gingerbread and we are busy with our lives not to deal with guys like you
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G2 has a kb...
And the n900 is a non-android phone with a keyboard running gingerbread...
Samsung mustve changed SOMETHING that normal companies like to use, including apple apparently
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How much easier would it be wit froyo sauce straigh from samsung?
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Most of the important stuff is done retardedly by Samsung, and they don't release source code for their retarded implementation. They make it pretty hard.
Well, at least this thread isn't about Froyo...
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We have no real deveelopers working on gingerbread and we are busy with our lives not to deal with guys like you
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Guys like me? Care to clarify?
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Come on OP, you've been here long enough not to make a thread about this. Really?
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Come on OP, you've been here long enough not to make a thread about this. Really?
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I haven't seen anything about why is 2.3 hard to port...only threads about froyo
I was only curious. I wanna know if its because no one is working on it because they're working on cm6 or is there really something blocking it.
I don't mean to belittle the devs working on cm6, their hands are tied and this wasn't meant for them and I'm only waiting on mms to just flash it and never look back
I'm just a curious little monkey!
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I think he asking a legitimate question.
I wondered about that myself.Iphone 3g grts 2.3 and we dont-sht dont sound right.Devices that not meant to run Android are running it.Samsung already made thwir money of Epic why these mf's wont give us the source so we can make 2.3 ourself?
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I think he asking a legitimate question.
I wondered about that myself.Iphone 3g grts 2.3 and we dont-sht dont sound right.Devices that not meant to run Android are running it.Samsung already made thwir money of Epic why these mf's wont give us the source so we can make 2.3 ourself?
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Have you seen it running on the iphone?
http://pocketnow.com/iphone/iphone-3g-gets-android-23-gingerbread-port
Its garbage. Its a proof of concept. We had gingerbread booting on the epic like a day after its release, but not in a functional state. Why completely rebuild an OS when you can take what we have and make it as functional as possible. It would be a waste of dev talents to hand build a Frankenstein gingerbread when there is so much else to work on.
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Well, at least this thread isn't about Froyo...
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Give it time
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pateince is a virtue.
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pateince is a virtue.
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Using the search button before posting stupid threads is also a virtue.
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We have no real deveelopers working on gingerbread and we are busy with our lives not to deal with guys like you
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And then you wonder why you get **** from people... God work, but cocky attitude
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Will there eventually be any roms that get rid of the webtop stuff all together? I have played around with it a bit and ultimately found it to be worthless and haven't used it since.
I want vanilla android! It sucks that is so much to ask for in this market. (I had Nexus S but cannot live with t-mo.
I'm sure there are devs working on porting ROMs such as CM7 or AOSP. Patience is key right now. I know some CM devs are receiving some Atrixes.
Give it a few weeks. ROMs don't appear over night.
Hopefully man I just want pure 100% android
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I'm sure there are devs working on porting ROMs such as CM7 or AOSP. Patience is key right now. I know some CM devs are receiving some Atrixes.
Give it a few weeks. ROMs don't appear over night.
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Ooo neat cm7 devs getting atrixes is great news
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lesonal said:
Hopefully man I just want pure 100% android
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I can say for myself that I have been working on CM7 since Friday. Unfortunately I haven't gotten very far but I'm getting somewhere lol
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I can say for myself that I have been working on CM7 since Friday. Unfortunately I haven't gotten very far but I'm getting somewhere lol
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We all appreciate you work and you should work harder and keep in mind the ammount of donation you'll get.... damn it gonna be alot lol
Anyone else wanna see MIUI before cm7
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Anyone else wanna see MIUI before cm7
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MIUI uses CM7 as a base. So no MIUI until CM7.
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Anyone else wanna see MIUI before cm7
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I would but isn't MiUi basically a variant if cm7? I thought I read that one time but could be wrong.
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Sorry for the noob comment...coming from an iPhone lol. Okay that makes more sense then
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I can say for myself that I have been working on CM7 since Friday. Unfortunately I haven't gotten very far but I'm getting somewhere lol
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We all appreciate you work and you should work harder and keep in mind the ammount of donation you'll get.... damn it gonna be alot lol
Where was it stated that CM devs are receiving Atrix devices?
I would kindly like to stalk them. In private though... don't want to piss them off.
*stitches up voodoo dolls of CM devs*
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Where was it stated that CM devs are receiving Atrix devices?
I would kindly like to stalk them. In private though... don't want to piss them off.
*stitches up voodoo dolls of CM devs*
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i havent heard that etheir
Ibproud's twitter.
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Ibproud's twitter.
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Hopefully man I just want pure 100% android
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Me too. I could care less about CyanogenMod. I want PURE ANDROID!!
I just want my Tegra 2 dual core phone to HANDLE LIVE WALLPAPERS.
I also want the WIFI to work (stopped detecting WiFi altogether)
Will be posible to port any variant of Honeycomb? Honey can handle the DualCore module, is AOSP and has HighRes. I think it will be better than any 2.x.x. Motorola Xoom has a very similar hardware so I don't think that it's imposble, but all you are the genius here
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Will be posible to port any variant of Honeycomb? Honey can handle the DualCore module, is AOSP and has HighRes. I think it will be better than any 2.x.x. Motorola Xoom has a very similar hardware so I don't think that it's imposble, but all you are the genius here
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Multicore works perfectly fine in the current version of Android on the Atrix, as well as Gingerbread. Honeycomb will not be backported. Look forward to Ice Cream Sandwich instead, which is the "new hotness" I guess you could say.
If you want better multicore support, look to the app developers to add it into their apps. Android can run multicore but without support in the app, as I understand it, it won't use both cores. I am sure someone else with more knowledge about the underlying structure of Android could shed better light on the subject.
Honestly, where does this misinformation stem from?
CM9, wasn't for me, so I'm currently using CM7-which I love. BUT, the nightlies still haven't fixed the volume whenever you make outgoing calls and I don't like the Camera/video recorder. Since those two things haven't been fixed (And its driving me crazy) I was wondering what you guys think is a very good EL30 Rom? I'm thinking about switching to one but I don't want to sacrifice battery life and how snappy CM7 is. Just interested in seeing what you guys recommend that I should try.
There is only like 3. Just try them all and see what is best for YOU. Each phone and user is different.
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Yeah I figured that is what people would say...haha...I will give one a try tonight and see how it works out. Thanks for the reply!
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Yeah I figured that is what people would say...haha...I will give one a try tonight and see how it works out. Thanks for the reply!
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You know its not like this is the evo where there's like 200 different sense 3.0 or 2.1 or 1.0+3.0 or 2.1+3.0 we just have TouchWiz Cyanogenmod and Miui not a lot to choose from
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Im still trying to figure out what else I can do to my epic...i got cm9 alpha 4 on it....but besides that idk where else to go..
Before I switched over to CM9, I was on Clean GB. Before that, it was SleeperROM, but I remember finding something that I didn't like too much. I'm not putting it down or anything. Its just that one of my apps wasn't working or the camera. I forgot exactly what it was, but they're both good. I can't say about the other one. I liked Clean GB a lot. Give it a try.
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tried CM7, tried MIUI (had to add a launcher becuase it was driving me crazy without one...lol) and tried CleanGB...
all very nice and unique in their own ways...
in the end, went back to Legendary Rom v2.2, after converting it from BML to MTD format....
the creators have made the install of all the roms idiot proof, it's fun to just backup/wipe as many times as you want and try them all out
SleeperRom or CleanGB are both great Roms.
And Marcusant's v4 will be out soon too. It is in beta now.
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I'm using cleangb and really like it. But I noticed that even stock el30 will do just we fine. No more ciq so its a good rom really. Bonus is, everything works.
Thanks for all of the replies! I'm trying CleanGB and the battery life is....ok. I guess I got spoiled with CM7 battery. I'm just glad everything works....Will give Marcusant's new one a try once released. May even try SleeperRom. Anybody on Thunderhawk right now?
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And Marcusant's v4 will be out soon too. It is in beta now.
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That is a ROM I will leave CM for...at least for a few days to check it our ;-)
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That is a ROM I will leave CM for...at least for a few days to check it our ;-)
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I am running it right now. Seems solid and quick. The only issue found was the twlauncher FC'd. Changed launchers and it is running nice. He has a link up for the beta.
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I am running it right now. Seems solid and quick. The only issue found was the twlauncher FC'd. Changed launchers and it is running nice. He has a link up for the beta.
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Didn't realize the link was up..I was so consumed by your "cranky" thread! LOL
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Didn't realize the link was up..I was so consumed by your "cranky" thread! LOL
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LOL. But I think it did a little good. I have noticed a few people being nicer. Maybe having that thread to vent was not a bad idea.
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LOL. But I think it did a little good. I have noticed a few people being nicer. Maybe having that thread to vent was not a bad idea.
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Hehehe. I think it did work. Mercusant got reported but I accepted his apology.
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Hehehe. I think it did work. Mercusant got reported but I accepted his apology.
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Wasn't needed, but whatever floats your boat. I just hope the devs that bring us all our toys don't all take off because of the childish behavior out here.
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Wasn't needed, but whatever floats your boat. I just hope the devs that bring us all our toys don't all take off because of the childish behavior out here.
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Me too. As long as we keep this stuff out of the development threads.
so i thought i would open up a official port request here i am looking for some new aosp roms to port as the ones i was going to port were taken.. no offense just wanted them for myself lol.. but please post any rom requests here and i will do my best to port them..
Why port? AOSP can be built from source, that is a way better way in making an AOSP based Rom.
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Don't know code yet.. learning though..
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Don't know code yet.. learning though..
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There is many guides across the net, the best advice is just dive right in. Then when you get a hang up just ask questions, there is many people that can help out.
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Please port UKE
i dunno
some cm9 roms or ics roms?
vicodan why must you be a douche at all times.. uke really already done.. on sdx-developers.com
I was thinking about using my other hard drive to compile from source but most of the guides I've seen are calling for 64bit. I only have a very old school 32 bit setup so I'm out that race LOL
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I was thinking about using my other hard drive to compile from source but most of the guides I've seen are calling for 64bit. I only have a very old school 32 bit setup so I'm out that race LOL
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I'm compiling on 32 bit.
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I'm compiling on 32 bit.
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Maybe It's the ICS guide we have written then, because I was going to try to compile from peppermint( uses ubtuntu repositories) but stopped at the 64 bit part LOL
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Lol VICODAN is VICODAN, you learn to love it man. If you don't really know how to compile from source though I'd recommend you start there.
I understand wanting to help out and port things users want BUT what happens when there is a bug that requires fixing and you are unable to attempt to fix.
Like one_love_420 said, just dive in and spam IRC ;-)
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Don't know code yet.. learning though..
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As stated in the "Getting Started with Arduino" handbook, coding is much like starting a punk band, in that you only need to know three chords. In other words, just get started, you will pick it up as you go (besides, as far as coding goes, with the exception of applescript, it really does not get much easier than android).
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Lol VICODAN is VICODAN, you learn to love it man. If you don't really know how to compile from source though I'd recommend you start there.
I understand wanting to help out and port things users want BUT what happens when there is a bug that requires fixing and you are unable to attempt to fix.
Like one_love_420 said, just dive in and spam IRC ;-)
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yeah i have compiled from miuicode from source using the repo sync i am not a total noob to the game i have some basic terminal knowledge just looking for some cool "chinese" aosp roms problem is that we aren't on the github list whitch i think is [email protected]#!! oh well what can i do i guess..
This would be a killer port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901734
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This would be a killer port
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Not in the least. Their themes were ugly as hell. 99% of chefs or actual rom devs for the most part shared the same feature sets, so it was mostly about themes and minor tweaks for roms to stand apart.
I agree, Viper was horrid. Looked terrible.
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I liked Viper. Starsky and I were the ones who got BT out of retirement.
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Not in the least. Their themes were ugly as hell. 99% of chefs or actual rom devs for the most part shared the same feature sets, so it was mostly about themes and minor tweaks for roms to stand apart.
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Naive little mens. Team Viper (or their members/devs) has been influencing many of those shared features from eclair all the way up to JB.
Once froyo was maxed out, you are right, there was a point where it was theming and/or removing apps to make the ROM lighter.
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TeamViper did ( does ) great work and Dazed started out over here with our OG EPIC4G before moving over to the EpicTouch and now SG3 ... he's doing a pretty good job IMHO :good:
I liked team viper when they worked together and created random stuff like the viper wheel, but then they got annoying and flooded development with ROMs that were no different to one another and all updated at the same time with all the same features...like EVERY SINGLE ONE! Then they disbanded I guess and have been in an advisory type of roll where I think they're great individually
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Where is Rodderick these days?
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I miss Team Viper as well
I remember harassing BT for Rom updates & he always ignored me lol
I wonder are any of the old team vipers members moving to the G-Note ii.
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I miss Team Viper as well
I remember harassing BT for Rom updates & he always ignored me lol
I wonder are any of the old team vipers members moving to the G-Note ii.
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TP was on the OG Moto Photon, but I don't know if he's still there. I think Starsky is on Epic 4GT
TP is still devving for the Nexus 7, but he's consulting in some fashion or another for a company and will be heavily involved in Windows mobile. No longer with Sprint.
You guys mean to tell me you didn't like His Hot Orange Madness theme?
Geez, what dev teams that formed here still exist? Seems like they're either disbanded or a shell of what they once were.
Not sure that any of the originals do. TBH, since CM came around, I haven't kept in touch with many of the other ROMs, dev teams.
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ERA and IAP are still around, I believe. But most everyone who's here works on CM or some variance thereof (AOKP, MIUI, etc).
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Team Bring it! Is still here...right Naddict........Naddict?
Heyyyyyyyyyyyy. Naddddddiiicccccct!
kennyglass123 said:
Team Bring it! Is still here...right Naddict........Naddict?
Heyyyyyyyyyyyy. Naddddddiiicccccct!
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Hey Kenny! Give the OG Epic Team Bring It something to test!
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