I am thinking of returning my iPad 3 for the Note. Is it worth the 500?
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why not just keep both like i do...Note is excellent i just hope it gets updated regularly...am a bit disappointed on the build quality though.
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why not just keep both like i do...Note is excellent i just hope it gets updated regularly...am a bit disappointed on the build quality though.
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That's what is disturbing me too. Cant afford to keep both. I have been having issue with getting my excel sheets on to iPad with USB cable. Plus my movies and playing them. The iPad is very complicated when it comes to file transfers and playing media not in iTunes. I don't find the apps anymore intuitive then android; they are basically becoming the same ESPN taptu pulse Google + ect. I also miss the SD card slot I think I have made up my mind.
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That's what is disturbing me too. Cant afford to keep both. I have been having issue with getting my excel sheets on to iPad with USB cable. Plus my movies and playing them. The iPad is very complicated when it comes to file transfers and playing media not in iTunes. I don't find the apps anymore intuitive then android; they are basically becoming the same ESPN taptu pulse Google + ect. I also miss the SD card slot I think I have made up my mind.
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Sounds like you are experiencing the problems with the closed garden of iOS which is why I have little use for Apple products. The flexibility of android more then makes up for its issues. After all, all operating systems have, IMO, things about them that can be problematic.
As far as build issues, I find the Note solid enough for my needs. Like all tabs on need to take care using them (good case, screen protector, etc). The display quality is the only aspect of the iPad3 that "wins" over the Note IMO. But the Note's display is fine for my needs.
HTH
You are asking in the Note forum so you will probably hear YES, I'd agree with them. It depends on what features you love about the note and how often you would use them, ask yourself, can the Ipdad do this?
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I am thinking of returning my iPad 3 for the Note. Is it worth the 500?
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I bought an ipad for my daughter and it is great for my daughter. I can lock it down even more and she can only play the games i put on there and the movies i put on there. For her the locked down can't do anything else is an awesome...err...feature? I do hate having to convert movies to a specific format to play on her ipad. But my wife has an iphone and it is painful to send her anything besides a picture. And we always have to close stuff to make things work on the ipad. And sometimes it says its disc is full when there are several gigs free. Requires a reset and reload of everything to fix. It seems sturdy, but I have it in a gorilla case. How important is metal body? You should be careful enough to not drop something that expensive anyways. I've never dropped a tablet or laptop. Just my phone.
I had a transformer prime, loved the keyboard, but it was laggy all the time and never held wifi. So i returned to BB and got the 16, then 32 gig Note. Don't waste time with the 16 btw. But I can edit documents on it no problem. I can put 720p mkv files on it and it just plays them. Same for any divx/xvid movie. And sure the resolution is less than the ipad 3, daughter has ipad1. I don't feel the need to watch 1080p movies on it. If I want that high of quality then I'll watch on my tv. The note just flies. It is so quick and responsive. And I love the screen, think its perfect resolution. It is crystal clear for me with no light leaks. Same res as my work laptop. Speakers on the front, why doesn't every one do this? The ipad sucks for watching anything I think. Can't hear that well unless you turn it all the way up. Still isn't that loud. The note speakers play stereo, into your ears, like its meant to be. And there is no bluetooth audio lag when using wireless headphones. The sd card slot is a must. With the cheap price of 32gig ones you can pretty much carry a small movie library in HD. I don't use the pen that much, but it works well for web browsing and draw something. The small links in chrome are easy to touch with it without zooming. The chrome browser is a must. With heavy use I can get just over 10 hours of screen on time without turning performance mode off.
I've had a LOT of tablets (old Galaxy 3g, Xoom, Iconia A500, 8.9" Xyboard 4G, iPad 2, iPad 3 4G, Nexus 7, Transformer Prime, and Note 10.1). From my experience, I've narrowed down what I'm looking for in a tablet. I want something that's thin, has good battery, fast processor, expandable memory, kinda like a somewhat smaller tablet but not required, and not locked down. I love hacking my devices but don't want to have to hack it to hell and search through garbled folders and/or install paid apps (Good Reader) just to be able to put my music and videos on it and play it as a native app (music wont die when you leave a screen). Apple is too proprietary. People like it's simplicity but it is really a manufacturer aimed at old people and dumb people (sorry if I offended anyone).
I really like Motorola devices. Well built, usually decent battery, and always good signal. But they're locked down (at least current devices - hope they stay true to promises).
Asus is a good manufacturer who willingly unlocks your devices at the expense of your warranty. They keep records so no getting around it. Not the best battery, but quad core and expandable memory. Easily my 2nd choice!
And finally we have Samsung. Both my S3 and Note 10.1 have exceptional battery (considering they're not expanded and the processor each is packing). Totally unlocked without voiding warranty (just reset the flash counter). Recovery with odin is just as simple as sbf or fastboot with Moto devices with the exception that hacking can occur with odin (+1). I'm really digging Touchwiz. I'm totally sold on the motion functions. Both devices are next in line for official Jelly Bean. No lack of development. Expandable memory, get the 16 gb and pop in a micro sd (+10). No complaints whatsoever from this guy.
I read a little bit about Samsung's new TV's. Essentially a wifi ready, motion sensor packed, giant wall hanging, LED/3D, upgradeable Android device. If it weren't for the price tag I'd have one on my wall right now.
Why else would Apple sue Samsung over stupid stuff? They see a better manufacturer who can and will steal iFans!
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I've had a Zoom, Tab 10.1, Transformer Infinity, iPad3, and now the Note 10.1. The note beats everything hands down. (I also have 2 Nexus 7s, but that's a different category) . For everything you want to do, Android is your poison. The Note is the best tablet on the market right now. IPad is nice, but I hate being locked down in iOS. Here is what I like and don't like about the GNote 10.1
Like:
Killer hardware
Front speakers
Expandable SD memory
Big following so lots of support
Build quality is very good
S pen + Bluetooth keyboard and mouse support
Dislike:
Plastic back. (Put a case on it and you don't have to worry about scratches
Non HD screen (it's a negligible difference)
Touchwiz (custom ROMs like CM10 remove this annoyance)
Hulu doesn't support it yet (hacked APK can be installed)
As you can see, all the dislikes are minor and easily handled. It's a great tablet and satisfies me (I'm NEVER satisfied).
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I bought an ipad for my daughter and it is great for my daughter. I can lock it down even more and she can only play the games i put on there and the movies i put on there. For her the locked down can't do anything else is an awesome...err...feature? I do hate having to convert movies to a specific format to play on her ipad. But my wife has an iphone and it is painful to send her anything besides a picture. And we always have to close stuff to make things work on the ipad. And sometimes it says its disc is full when there are several gigs free. Requires a reset and reload of everything to fix. It seems sturdy, but I have it in a gorilla case. How important is metal body? You should be careful enough to not drop something that expensive anyways. I've never dropped a tablet or laptop. Just my phone.
I had a transformer prime, loved the keyboard, but it was laggy all the time and never held wifi. So i returned to BB and got the 16, then 32 gig Note. Don't waste time with the 16 btw. But I can edit documents on it no problem. I can put 720p mkv files on it and it just plays them. Same for any divx/xvid movie. And sure the resolution is less than the ipad 3, daughter has ipad1. I don't feel the need to watch 1080p movies on it. If I want that high of quality then I'll watch on my tv. The note just flies. It is so quick and responsive. And I love the screen, think its perfect resolution. It is crystal clear for me with no light leaks. Same res as my work laptop. Speakers on the front, why doesn't every one do this? The ipad sucks for watching anything I think. Can't hear that well unless you turn it all the way up. Still isn't that loud. The note speakers play stereo, into your ears, like its meant to be. And there is no bluetooth audio lag when using wireless headphones. The sd card slot is a must. With the cheap price of 32gig ones you can pretty much carry a small movie library in HD. I don't use the pen that much, but it works well for web browsing and draw something. The small links in chrome are easy to touch with it without zooming. The chrome browser is a must. With heavy use I can get just over 10 hours of screen on time without turning performance mode off.
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Btw: iPads are great for kids as they are easy... but Android offers better parental controls both natively and with apps.
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Dislike:
Plastic back. (Put a case on it and you don't have to worry about scratches
Non HD screen (it's a negligible difference)
Touchwiz (custom ROMs like CM10 remove this annoyance)
Hulu doesn't support it yet (hacked APK can be installed)
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Funny because I really like TouchWiz - it's what actually got me to buy the Note 10.1
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Funny because I really like TouchWiz - it's what actually got me to buy the Note 10.1
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+1. If CM/AOKP/AOSP/other could somehow incorporate the motion functions of TW, I'd be less resilient of giving it up.
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i haven't used my ipad in a month since getting the note. i doubt i'll ever use it again and handing it over to my daughter.
I purchased mines from at best buy one day cause there was a Samsung rep showing off all its features. I'll admit my purchase was completely impulsive and I had no intentions on spending $500 for a tablet since I already had an iPad at home. However I decided to make the purchase figuring if I didn't like it I had 60 days to return it (I'm a premier rewards zone member and they give you 60 days for returns). However once I got it at home and started messing around with it I haven't even thought about my iPad. I actually told my gf she can have it because I love the gnote so much. I use it for everything from taking notes for my courses to playing games to watching YouTube vids. I've had an ipad since the first one launched and I thought it was a great device. However I love my widgets and customization that the gnote gives me. I'll never go back to the iPad now.
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Well said gentlemen. Returned the iPad got the Note. Loaded up my movies, dropped that SD card with work files in, and I'm back in business. Yes *****.
The iPad apps are awesome but android is so flexable. Spelled like that on purpose.
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I use the iPad in my car with Siri. It's very useful this way. Siri has flaws but it's pretty good on the road. There are other things that the iPad excels in of course.
I just don't think one is better than the other, but a matter of choice and/or application.
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Well said gentlemen. Returned the iPad got the Note. Loaded up my movies, dropped that SD card with work files in, and I'm back in business. Yes *****.
The iPad apps are awesome but android is so flexable. Spelled like that on purpose.
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Of course, you were already leaning towards the Note anyway or you would have asked this question in a iPad forum.
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Stick with the Note. I had ipad1 when it first came out(still have it). Then went to transformer prime. Then I have 2 Nexus 7's. Now I have a Note 10.1 and SG3. I never would've thought I'd be impressed by Samsung so much. MY PRIME had a good run but can't compare tl the stability of my Note 10.1 and Nexus 7. I still think the Nexus 7, Note 10.1, and Infinity Pad are the 3 best tabs on the market today.
Even if a person don't use the S pen, note 10.1 is a great choice. Based on power and stability alone.
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Of course, you were already leaning towards the Note anyway or you would have asked this question in a iPad forum.
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I didn't belong to any iPad forums I only had it for 3 days. If was way to difficult to transfer files. If IOS had a file manager without extra programs I would have maybe gave it a shot.
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I didn't belong to any iPad forums I only had it for 3 days. If was way to difficult to transfer files. If IOS had a file manager without extra programs I would have maybe gave it a shot.
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I'm joking. Proud Note owner myself. I traded my iPad in for a Prime, then upgraded to a Note.
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Same deal, i bought ipad3 for gradschool. This was 1 month before 10.1 release. And i was dealing with iOS `pain´ . then my girlfriend bought 10.1 and man i ´ ticked! I feel cheated! I envied that tablet more than anything else. Good thing my gf dont mind me messing with it when shés not using it.
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Btw: iPads are great for kids as they are easy... but Android offers better parental controls both natively and with apps.[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking of getting another Note for my daughter. What native parental controls are there and what apps do you suggest?
TIA,
Methaq
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So I'm thinking of getting a new device, and my top 2 candidates are Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy Note (probably Note), but give me a few reasons why Note and not Nexus when Nexus is cheaper
Btw, Note has better and faster processor, yet Nexus scores better on most benchmarks. Please tell me that on some ROM Note does better.
Also, which one is better in shooting 1080p video? That matters to me, and I suppose Note has better pics but its not all about megapixels.
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The reason I brought the Note was because of the big screen. This was the big "wow thing" for me.
But if you are a big rooter, and tests all ROMs, then I should go with the Nexus, just because of there is so many more ROMs etc. on the Nexus than the Note.
Please hit the "Thanks" if this helped you a bit!
there is no other "similar device"...
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Btw, Note has better and faster processor, yet Nexus scores better on most benchmarks.
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does it? I the first few videos I looked at seemed to suggest that the Note benchmarked higher, as you'd expect from better specs. >.>
I bought the note for the unmatched screen size, and the potential of a stylus. which remain good reasons to consider one.
neither phone should have issues playing 1080p video (although both are below 1080p resolution) although a larger screen is possibly preferable.
I'm told the note does indeed have a better camera, but neither are professional camera quality, so it's not something I worry about.
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This is also true. x)
It was between note and htc XL
note is bigger faster and have sd card slot
Simply cause Note plays alone
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Big screen and S-Pen. I have fat fingers and had a hard time clicking internet links on my old iPhone 3G, and the S-Pen makes surfing the net and clicking even on small links very easy - it's a lot more precise than a finger, that's for sure. It also makes entering text in Chinese very easy.
The large screen is fantastic for web surfing, games, and videos too.
As for the ROMs I don't exactly like flashing all of them, all I want is one fast nice ROM. Having a Nexus device atm everyone tells that every ROM is awesome and it sucks finding the best one because not all rumors are true, that is why I wanna settle for a bit less developer device.
I'm probably gonna order Note now, I still have to check out the GNex in real life, Note is amazing my friend has it and I have no problem with its size considering my average sized hands.
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Size does matter
Its size, and s-pen, since palm times i've been waiting for something like that.
But the size was what really close de deal for me.
its video playback capabilities compared to any other phone available at that time (htc sensation, evo 3d, gs2 i9100g, moto razr xt)
Sorry I didn't express myself properly. I meant 1080p shooting not playback but thanks anyway
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No question: The size.
This was both for my poor eyes, and fat fingers.
I had a HTC HD7 and a HTC Flyer and sold both for the Note. I loved WP but I hated having to keep 2 devices synchronized and the Flyer was awkward and geavy to carry.
The S Pen was the reason I chose the Note, as well as that it was a small tablet with phone capabilities.
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The Note is the all-in-one solution for me:
-- gaming device (with S-pen Defender and Draw Something are more fun)
-- handheld movie watching, YouTube videos
-- email and web surfing
-- music player w/ Bluetooth headset
-- 32GB removable SD for movies and tons of songs, ebooks, apps, pics, films
-- radio
-- GPS (good as a TomTom)
-- Skype phone
-- eBook reader
The removable battery and SD card, bigger screen, and bonus stylus are what sealed the deal for me. As for benchmarks, my boss just got a Sprint EVO 4G LTE, and we're still neck and neck for benchmark scores, with his "Eagle" just edging out my Note. No one else at work has a faster phone other than the just-released EVO.
Who needs a tablet when you have a Note?
If I didn't love my note so much I'd take the s3 before the Nexus any day. Although I wouldn't change my Note for either.
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I find the bigger screen makes it a lot more usable as a multimedia device. Web browsing is great and you don't need to bring it to your nose to read - i can read from the phone at arm's length.
I do think the s-pen is really underrated. At first I found it a little awkward to use as it's a little small but soon got used to it. Using the pen for notes, drawings and scribbles are a much more natural way to work especially when you're trying to record down abstract concepts. With the ICS update most of the issues i had with it are gone.
I've you've ever tried to sign your name or draw with your finger you know touch interfaces have their limitations. The s-pen allows a level of precision, accuracy and more natural pen feeling that is not found anywhere else.
It's probably why the great painters weren't finger painters
I found playing 'Draw Something' was a great way to learn and get used to the pen The only annoying thing is playing against people with 3.5" iphones - it's really hard to see what they're trying to draw!
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Exactly
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I see note as a stand alone smartphone and considered as mini laptop/desktop.
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i brought the note because the first phone i lost due to it falling out of my pocket, so i thought i get a bigger phone and it won't fall out.
I got the Note because it was the first phone that could fulfill a huge percentage of my need for a laptop (great for spreadsheets, etc.). I don't even bring the laptop out of town any more. Everything else is just a phone.
I bought my wife a N7 and we really like it, now I need to get myself one. But the limited 16GB storage ain't cutting it and the wimpy little speakers from N7 is another negative. I'm aware of getting OTG usb adapter to run thumb drive with stickmount app but I don't want to deal with the hassle of having a dildo looking thing hanging down from the N7 tablet when i'm on the go. I don't care about custom rom either, have already tried several ROMs for the N7 in both development sections and none impresses me, they all have bugs, lag, and other crap, so I restored our N7 back to stock and it's butter smooth and couldn't be happier. I'm looking into ipad 3 64GB version or the Asus Infinity 64GB, the latter have SD slot but I keep hearing how the Asus have quality problem so I'm a bit reluctant to get another Asus. I know I would definitely enjoy the Retina display from ipad 3, i have seen one in person and it's all eye candy! Does anybody own both the N7 + ipad 3 or infinity? what's your thought?
I primarily use an iPad 3rd gen (32gb wifi). Just won an N7 thanks to ProClip, and and have found myself using it as my reading device with great success. I would recommend the iPad for the app selection alone.
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If you're not using custom ROMs and are asking this forum whether to get an ipad or an android tablet, you're either a troll or just clueless.
In either situation, I recommend you get an iPad and find a different forum.
I have a ipad 3 32GB wifi and a nexus 7. You can't go wrong with the retina display the ipad has. Like you said, It's eye candy. I do love the N7 because of it's portability. It's small, can fit in your pocket if you have big enough pockets.. I love them both. Glad I have them both!
Buy a WI Drive or CloudFTP?
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I have a ipad 3 32GB wifi and a nexus 7. You can't go wrong with the retina display the ipad has. Like you said, It's eye candy. I do love the N7 because of it's portability. It's small, can fit in your pocket if you have big enough pockets.. I love them both. Glad I have them both!
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Glad to hear, we already have 2 Android phones running on UKB roms along with the N7 on stock JB now, but never own anything from apple so I thought why not throw in a bit of variety? when i have the itch to flash custom roms I can always do it on the Dinc2 or the N7 so I ain't missing anything. The Retina display would be the top reason to get the Ipad 3, that long with bigger storage. I'm using the NEC PA271W on my PC for photo and video editing so I'm a bit spoiled by wide gamut display, the ipad 3 is as close to sRGB as we can get at this point in time. fishfuzz also bring up a good point, app selection, but is the long charging time really that bad on the ipad 3?
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Glad to hear, we already have 2 Android phones running on UKB roms along with the N7 on stock JB now, but never own anything from apple so I thought why not throw in a bit of variety? when i have the itch to flash custom roms I can always do it on the Dinc2 or the N7 so I ain't missing anything. The Retina display would be the top reason to get the Ipad 3, that long with bigger storage. I'm using the NEC PA271W on my PC for photo and video editing so I'm a bit spoiled by wide gamut display, the ipad 3 is as close to sRGB as we can get at this point in time. fishfuzz also bring up a good point, app selection, but is the long charging time really that bad on the ipad 3?
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At least a full night to full charge it .. especially if it's at 0.
I have both the IPad 3 and N7 and they are pretty good companions. The N7 gets used more here as it has that perfect size and we here all have Android phones. But for any critical viewing or listening we use the IPad.
If you want to spend the money go get the 64GB IPad, it's an excellent tablet and the image quality is unbeatable. The only other Android tablet would consider is the T700 and like you I have issues with trying out another Asus tablet.
Well this is a nexus forum lol... But what are u looking for in a tablet? As much as I hate apple, I will agree that they do make a quality product that is very user friendly that and they have a nice selection of apps. Memory is always important and the n7 Deff lacks memory but I have a usb otg. Also keep in mind that the ipad mini will be available soon so if size is a factor than u will have 2 options available.
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Never support Apple.
I am personally waiting for the windows tabs to come out. I am leaning towards the surface or Ativ tab.
I wanted a 7'' tablet, so ipad was no option anyway.
...and i hate apple.
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I've had a tf101 and a tf201 and no issues regarding build quality. What really annoys me about Asus tablets, and the reason I won't buy another, is that you need to unlock the bootloader to root and once is unlocked you can't ever receive over the air updates again.
If Asus won't allow me to make my tablet resellable again after rooting, I'm looking elsewhere.
I did consider a galaxy note 10.1 but the display resolution is a bit low for a 10" tab. It looks ok just text in particular just isn't that sharp.
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I have iPad3 and nexus 7. I had the tf101. The prior comments on iPad3 are true, but no one mentions the relatively sloowwwwww CPU. At the speed the market is moving, I would wait for something that has nexus 7 relative speed, iPad3 relative screen + GPU, thin and light.
The nexus 7 is nicely balanced on CPU, GPU, pixel density, screen vibrancy, energy use, responsiveness, etc. The crop of tablets next year should be able to do this, in a larger screen. I would wait.
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If you're not using custom ROMs and are asking this forum whether to get an ipad or an android tablet, you're either a troll or just clueless.
In either situation, I recommend you get an iPad and find a different forum.
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Awsome !
so I'm torn between this and the Nexus 7. Please tell me what you like about the note and why I should get it over the Nexus 7. Or if you don't like it and you think I should get the Nexus 7.
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so I'm torn between this and the Nexus 7. Please tell me what you like about the note and why I should get it over the Nexus 7. Or if you don't like it and you think I should get the Nexus 7.
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There are a ton of posts already with comparisons. If u search for them u can get more information.
Note is the best 10 inch tablet, while n7 is the best 7 inch tablet.
Figure out if u like 10ijch or 7 inch better.
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I have both and use them for different reasons. I like to game and read books on the Nexus 7 due to the size.
With the Note 10.1 I like to surf the web, watch movies and listen to music.
If I had to pick one it would be the Note 10.1 due to the quality, the specs and the overall function.
I came from xoom to here n i nvr regret at all
Note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why get the Nexus 7 when you can just look at your phone? Also, the Note has the pen.
I bought the Note and gave my 7 inch tablet to my GF. Haven't regretted that choice for a second.
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So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?
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So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?
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Are you serious? How can you ask people which tablet is "better" for you when you don't even know the basic specs of either tablet? Sounds like you need to do some research before asking your questions -- otherwise, we won't be able to really help you.
Nexus 7:
7 inch
vanilla android 4.1 (JB)
Tegra 3
$199-$250
Note 10.1:
10 inch
Currently android 4.0, soon to be updated to 4.1 w/Touchwiz
Exynos 4412 + Mali 400MP
s-pen
$499-$550
What you're asking is comparing apples vs oranges. Which of these tablets is right for you is for YOU to decide. What you want to do with your tablet has everything to do with which one you should choose. Do you value the S-pen? If so, buy the note. Do you want an inexpensive device running plain jellybean with updates straight from Google? Get the Nexus 7.
Whatever you do, do your homework first & familiarize yourself with the devices. The specs and info on both are everywhere on the web. If you want to hear about people's experiences with the Note 10.1, there are TONS of posts here detailing just that. Head over to the Nexus forums to find similar posts on that device, too. Go to the store and play with both in hand. Read about which one is good for the tasks you want it to do. Make yourself a list of pros and cons for each. Given that the two devices you've listed are so vastly different in spec and usage, I should think your choice will end up being an easy one.
That said, I love my Note 10.1, but I bought it specifically for the s-pen feature. It just happens to outperform all of my other devices at just about everything else, too, so I've no regrets with my purchase. Sound quality is amazing (both speakers and with my headphones). I love S-Note & Photoshop Touch. Video playback is great. Games run beautifully & I do not believe I've had a single FC yet. It does everything I want & it does it with ease.
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So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?
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Yes. As others have posted in XDA, not yet.
To expand on my answers, you should know that not all games will work on the Nexus 7 stock due to its size. Same as some games may not work on the 10" platform either (although more seem to run on 10" than 7").
Honestly you should go and figure out why you want a tablet in the first place THEN ask questions. Sounds to me like you are partially obsessed with having the newest Android OS and gaming, which as of this moment leaves you with the Nexus 7 since it is the only one with Jelly Bean stock.
I appreciate all your feedback. I know I'm coming off like I didn't do any research but I did do some... I have never owned a tablet so I wanted some feedback on which one is best. There is no one thing I want to do with it, I want the best tablet to do everything. I want to basically replace my laptop and then some. I want a big screen so this one appealed to me, I want to be able to play games with no lag, software isn't a deal breaker for me but I'm sure JB will get to this device soon enough. I love Sammy, I currently have the epic 4g touch and love it. I've heard excellent thing about the nexus 7 and nothing about the note 10.1 from friends. So I came here...
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I want to basically replace my laptop and then some.
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Whether an Android tablet can do this or not depends on what you do with your laptop. If it's consumption, e-mail, and the occasional document you'll be fine. If you connect to physical networks, use a lot of MS products, and have to format and print stuff you'll be better off looking at a W8 tablet when they come out. One of the biggest differences between a 7" and 10" tablet is portability. With the smaller tablet it's easier to hold with one hand and you can stuff it in smaller places when you're carrying it around. The obvious downside is you give up a lot of display real estate in the process. Go in to a B&M store and spend some time with each trying out the things you'll do most often. My phone has a 4.7" display so to me a 7" tablet isn't a big enough leap to make me want to consider it.
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Whether an Android tablet can do this or not depends on what you do with your laptop. If it's consumption, e-mail, and the occasional document you'll be fine. If you connect to physical networks, use a lot of MS products, and have to format and print stuff you'll be better off looking at a W8 tablet when they come out. One of the biggest differences between a 7" and 10" tablet is portability. With the smaller tablet it's easier to hold with one hand and you can stuff it in smaller places when you're carrying it around. The obvious downside is you give up a lot of display real estate in the process. Go in to a B&M store and spend some time with each trying out the things you'll do most often. My phone has a 4.7" display so to me a 7" tablet isn't a big enough leap to make me want to consider it.
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Mainly just browsing, downloading files such as roms, and the occasional torrent file, I have a separate work laptop for all that other stuff. What do you all use yours for?
If you're even considering the Nexus 7, then you're not focused on power. So I'd say that it comes down to 2 things: Are you A)Buying it for any productivity related reasons that would benefit from having a stylus, or B) Going to be playing lots of graphic intensive games? If you answered "yes" to either if these questions, then pick up the Note (Although you could get by with the newest galaxy tab for gaming).If not, get the 7.
The Note does everything the Nexus 7 does minus Jellybean, which will change soon. Top features the Nexus doesn't have that I use and will use:
Stylus and Handwriting Recognition- Very useful for taking notes, writing poems, composition, doodling, funner than typing.
Bigger Screen- Videos, Reading, Visibility
Micro SD slot- expandable storage
2GB RAM
I would say the Note is just like the Nexus just with more productivity capabilities and more powerful.
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The Note does everything the Nexus 7 does minus Jellybean, which will change soon. Top features the Nexus doesn't have that I use and will use:
Stylus and Handwriting Recognition- Very useful for taking notes, writing poems, composition, doodling, funner than typing.
Bigger Screen- Videos, Reading, Visibility
Micro SD slot- expandable storage
2GB RAM
I would say the Note is just like the Nexus just with more productivity capabilities and more powerful.
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Actually for gaming I would go with the Nexus 7 because of Tegra specific games and apps...
Also the Nexus 7 will have a much more active dev scene, if that is what you are into.
That said I went with the Note 10.1. It's actually Samsung's TouchWiz interface and apps that won me over
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Actually for gaming I would go with the Nexus 7 because of Tegra specific games and apps...
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I own both devices and the Note 10.1 is clearly better for gaming due to faster and smoother performance and much better speakers.
Would pick the note....I came from the transformer prime....No tegra graphics but everything else is a plus....hands down winner for me is the note
I also have both and have hardly touched the Nexus 7 since I got the Note.
If I had to choose only one, it would be the Note without even stopping to blink.
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I just got a Note
I was in your shoes a few weeks ago. I really wanted to upgrade my Acer A500 with an iPad 3. But then I decided to really question what I wanted. I weighed 10" tablets against the 7" tablets. The Nexus 7 I really liked at first. What turned my off was the lack of a microSD slot. That's one of the things that turned me off to the iPad. I saw the Note from a distance but as soon as I got some time to play with it in the store I was hooked. Writing with the pen is amazing! Plus the difference between a 7" and 10" screen is pretty big. You can watch a video and surf the internet at the same time. I haven't been even a little disappointed since I got my Note!
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I was in your shoes a few weeks ago. I really wanted to upgrade my Acer A500 with an iPad 3. But then I decided to really question what I wanted. I weighed 10" tablets against the 7" tablets. The Nexus 7 I really liked at first. What turned my off was the lack of a microSD slot. That's one of the things that turned me off to the iPad. I saw the Note from a distance but as soon as I got some time to play with it in the store I was hooked. Writing with the pen is amazing! Plus the difference between a 7" and 10" screen is pretty big. You can watch a video and surf the internet at the same time. I haven't been even a little disappointed since I got my Note!
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I heard the note is more pixelated, and wouldn't the nexus 7 be more ideal for games since you can hold it easier? Not that gaming is the deal breaker for me by any means....
What a great device. And its a shame that some people maybe put off by the some of the pathetic reviews ive read on this device. Its stunning.
My s4 is faster. Higher res screen etc. But when it comes to browsing video etc theres no substitute for real estate.
Please dont listen to these bad reviews written by apple twats. If your in the market for a 10in tablet. You will love this
Lol I know what you mean I got my note 10.1 right after I got my s3 I love it the s pen, main reason I got the note over the n10
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Have to totally agree as well. Was about to get the Nexus 10 but I am really happy to get the Note 10.1. And the screen size and quality is more than fine for me...
This is the first time i have really used a tablet for my various hobbies. The Spen magic is great as well.
I just wish we get the Android updates for multiuser feature and bluetooth 4 LE support
i can't live without this tablet, take it everywhere i go i love the note series.
yeah, love it so much, and now, i'm running on ReVolt ROM and love it much more ^^
I completely ignored the reviews about the note 10.1, so many complaints about the screen being poor etc, what a load of tosh that is, there's bugger all wrong with it imo. I picked the note 10.1 over the nexus 10 and I don't regret that decision one bit!
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Snagged mine on eBay for £204 about 3 months ago, it's everything I need in a tablet.... I came from the tab 7.7 with the amoled screen which was lovely but still prefer the note 10.1 as more horsepower and bigger screen = happy gingerdude + with my note 2 gives me everything on the go.
To those who say screen is poor, try it for yourself is more than ok.
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What a great device. And its a shame that some people maybe put off by the some of the pathetic reviews ive read on this device. Its stunning.
My s4 is faster. Higher res screen etc. But when it comes to browsing video etc theres no substitute for real estate.
Please dont listen to these bad reviews written by apple twats. If your in the market for a 10in tablet. You will love this
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Couldn't agree more... just got my Note 10.1 a few weeks back - had been debating upgrading my original Tab 10.1 for a N10. I'm so happy I didn't - not sure where most of the bad reviews come from: screen is fantastic, the device is super-responsive, feels great in the hand and well-built, expandable memory (running a 64GB card in my 32GB Note = all the space I could ask for) - and for someone that uses his tablet like a notebook, the pen is fantastic to work with... Highly recommended. :victory:
What would make this Tablet permanently on my person, is if it could Seperate into 2, for portability. The 2nd half of the screen could serve as a giant battery, or the 2 halves could have Bluetooth link to each other, so you could do a lot of new things tablets can't do, for (a light-hearted) example , PORTABLE BATTLESHIP GAME SET! XD lol. Just think how creative Samsung could be, once they make those flexible displays commercially available. Also, when Google Glass becomes reasonably priced (I don't think King Midas could even afford it right now), I think some really awesome usage integration between one's glasses, computer, smartphone, and tablet, is inevitably going to be one of the driving catylsts in how commercially available tech will evolve/unfold.
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About the screen: the only reason Samsung didn't make it on Par with competitors, is because they couldn't find any that could work well with the specialized Wacom digitizer (which is what makes the s-pen superior to a magic wand XD), while also being cost effective. It's a tradeoff that anyone who goes this tablet a fair try, wouldn't care less about. Friggin' Apple extremists think the iPad screen makes photos look better than looking at something in person with your own eyes. Lol.
Opposite for me. I got my S4 and now I use my tablet less. It's not because it's a bad tablet, it's just that it's easier to whip out the phone and browse sometimes. I use my tablet for lots of other important things though so it makes up for that..
i sold my gn10.1 a few months back to get the ativ 500t and 700t. there isn't a day that goes by that i don't miss it. i've almost bit the bullet a few times and gotten a refurb for $300 (i've seen the refurb 32 for ~$350). i really wanna wait to see if they come out with a bigger screen, but i really miss my gn10.1. i missed it so bad that i bought a gn8 to fill the gap that will be left after i sell my nook hd+.
it was the greatest tablet i've owned and thought i'd finally found one that i'd keep for more than a year. windows is great since i can play just about any format and have an alternate selection of games (can't say better b/c that's subjective) and i love the bigger screen. i do hate that windows desktop isn't very finger friendly and that modern ui sucks so badly.
maybe i'll cave it and get another. hopefully i can tame the desire and wait a few months to see how much the ativ q will be or how big the new galaxy note tablets will be.
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What a great device. And its a shame that some people maybe put off by the some of the pathetic reviews ive read on this device. Its stunning.
My s4 is faster. Higher res screen etc. But when it comes to browsing video etc theres no substitute for real estate.
Please dont listen to these bad reviews written by apple twats. If your in the market for a 10in tablet. You will love this
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I just got a Galaxy S4 about a week and a half ago. I find myself using both my Note 10.1 and S4 about equally but for different things, for productivity apps, such as the S-pen apps and office apps, the real estate of the 10.1 can't be beat. for speed, fast browsing and social apps I lean toward the S4. One note though, the S4 just came out with an update that lets you move apps to SDcard, which the 10.1 does not have (hopefully it will come in a future update), however this update locks the bootloaders so that the S4 then cannot be rooted (as of yet!).
Same here. Galaxy Note and S4. In many ways they compliment each other. S-notes automatically show up on S-memo (albeit read only) and reverse also. S4 is always there when Note is not practical. Note wins for meetings. S4 wins waiting for the airplane door to close, and riding in the car.
I even got the small point stylus (ikross brand) designed for the S4 and it works nicely.
In geek heaven here .
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I've owned a N7 2012 for about a year, and I have a buyer for my old one, so I'm looking at upgrading. I haven't used a stylus device in years, but I used to love them: precision text editing, sketches to supplement an explanation, and unambiguous link clicking in the browser.
I expect longevity from my devices, and my previous experience has been that the charging connector breaks first on every mobile device I've had. This gives the N7 the serious advantage with the Qi inductive charging.
OTOH, the Note's performance is more future-proof: a 96GB Note (thanks SD-card expansion) will stay useful longer with a 32GB N7, and the benchmarks also come out clearly in favour of the Note: (Slashgear Note 6900 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/quadrant_gnote8_attwtmk.jpg vs N7 5600 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content...enshot_2013-07-25-13-17-52-google-nexus-7.jpg ).
But the performance doesn't count for all that much, since my main use for my current N7 has been reading: PDFs, e-books and websites. I use it mostly around the house, and my phone when I'm out and about.
Can anyone suggest something I haven't considered that may be relevant? The price isn't going to sway me much one way or the other.
Thanks
I prefer note 8 due to larger size and I won't mind carrying a slightly bigger one. Was coming from 7.7. I would have taken if it's nexus 8.
Happy user of note 8.
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I don't know what I can add except my reason for buying a Note 8.0--the pen. I bought my Note for school to replace everything in my bookbag--no more notebooks, no more laptop, no more text books. So far I'm very happy with my decision. I was also considering the new Nexus but because I wanted the ability to take notes, the lack of a wacom pen was off-putting. The Note was well worth the extra money for me.
I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available
I had the nexus 7.2 for a week and a half, the 16Gb version and it had a very nice screen fast processor but returned it due to frequent reboots, apparently it only happens on the 16Gb version. Got the note 8 instead. Am very satisfied with it.
I'd recommend you get the Nexus 7.2 first use it for a week then return and get the Note 8, that way you can see the strength and weakness of both and then decide which one is more useful to you. I am glad I did that, the Nexus 7.2 was how to say this not to hurt anyones feelings -plain vanilla- which is not bad, but you can't really compare the two because of the S pen feature on the Note 8. The Note 8 screen is not bad at all, but the 7.2 beats it, and I find that I do use the S pen more often than I thought I would. Also I'm a long time Samsung user and I like their products. I gave the Nexus 7.2 a try but am more comfortable with the Note 8, also love the S pen, for that alone it was worth it to me.
So as I mentioned get one use it as is for a week or two then return it and get the other one. Test both, but in my opinion you can't really pin the two tablets against each other. They are both good just depends what you are going to use it for, if you're a big game player get the Nexus, if you going to use the tablet for other things get the Note 8
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why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available
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I've owned more than a few Samsung devices, I currently own a two SGS 3, AT&T and Sprint. Neither are on 4.2.2, which is why i'm on CM10.1.2. I'd be pretty happy with a TouchWiz 4.3, but I know Samsung is pretty lame at updates that's why I made that statement, if the Note does get the 4.2.2 update, that's great, but I don't think they will go past that.
Hopefully Samsung is doing an overhaul on TouchWiz all together, I may stick with Samsung devices, otherwise my next device will be a Nexus. I've given up hope for the skin based phones and updates.
It really comes down to how much you value the s-pen....i thought I'd get much more use out of it (i do a lot of handwritten note taking, but at meetings i typically type in notepad) and never did so I just put my Note8 up for sale because the extra $100 wasn't worth it because it was still faster/easier for me to jot something quick on a post it than to take out the spen, launch the note app, scribbe something, save it....
however when I was in school the ability to take down quick notes and write on-screen on pdfs/ppt was *very critical* and I loved my W7 tablet with ntrig (this is all pre-tablets so it just depends on your use case
With OTG usb, you can still use microsd on the Nexus7, althought it's a bit more work and takes up the charging port..not sure if the new N7 has that yet (you had to be rooted on the old N7 to use it)
screenwise, the new N7 quality is much better, but I find the slightly larger note 8 to actually be easier to read on and use
I'm close to making my final decision because I refuse to keep the Note 8.0 and the N7 (2013) that I currently have.
The N7 is super nice. The display keeps drawing me back over and over. I like the fact that I can watch Netflix on it and not accidentally press the back button like I tend to do on the Note 8.0. I love the crisp text in my ebooks. And who doesn't love stock?
The Note 8.0 is better from a productivity standpoint for me, and it's why it currently leads. Outside of holding it in landscape and pressing buttons accidentally, I actually prefer the feel of the Note 8.0 more than the new N7. The display isn't nearly as bad as some would have you believe either. Sure if you have it side by side the N7, you'll see it, but in my opinion it looks real good.
Also a sidenote for comic book readers. I use Comixology, and I'm not a fan of the panel to panel view unless I'm forced to use it due to something being very small. It's easier for me to read comics on the Note 8.0 compared to the N7. Probably because of the extra inch of real estate.
Probably the reason I still go back and forth is because I know I can expect updates and a vibrant dev community on the N7, but probably not so much with the Note 8.0. Heck, I have the AT&T LTE variant, and I sadly can't even root that yet. Good luck with your decision.
I went ahead and ordered the 32GB Nexus 7.2. I figure I can always sell it for about what I paid for it if I decide not to keep it.
I got the previous Nexus 7 as a gift, but actually ended up selling it (and keeping the more lowly spec'd Tab 2 7" I already had) because the Nexus was just so flaky. Apparently it was a great device prior to 4.1, but I only got onboard after that. Plus the speakers were PATHETIC (unacceptable for a device that screams multimedia consumption.) I'm hoping those are better this go-round as I use mine for backgound music/video quite a bit.
There's pros to being on the bleeding edge of updates I guess. But I almost view it like you're being an unofficial beta tester. Samsung may not always have the latest official Android version on all its flagship devices, but all my experiences with them to-date have been outstanding. There's a reason (beyond just marketing) that they're the most dominant OEM in the Android world.
If the primary purpose is reading as OP has posted, I would suggest note 8 to be better choice.
My primary reason for buying note 8.0 was reading (PDF's as well as comics) and considering that almost 38 GB of my external 64 Gig card is occupied by books i would say i am more than pleased by my choice.
The extra screen size does matter here though both share similar 16:10 aspect ratio , which is quite ok,
another surprise feature, the reading mode that samsung built into this is amazing (though it might appear strange at first) but now I just can't imagine reading without that , it's easier on eyes,less stress and for me makes for much better concentration. add a good reader app (I absolutely love the free perfect viewer app for pdf and comics)
The secondary thing for me was the s-pen. since i have been using wacom tablets on pc since late 90's I found this quite adequate. My N-5100 costed me around $530 USD) which is surely definitely on the costlier side of things however I would still consider it worth that extra dough.
I also primarily use this at home and mine is still unrooted (haven't found a need or reason to root it yet).
Gotta decide what's your most important feature.
For me tablets can have two distinct purposes, media consumption device or productivity device. As a media consumption device there isn't much use to me for a tablet because honestly, most things are just more convenient to do on my phone since I always have it, and it has a data connection.
Now as a productivity device, there are a couple things the note 8 excels at. PDF and textbook portability/editing, handwritten notes, and remote desktop control. The spen takes this device to a higher level of productivity because there is no device with a comparable stylus. But for anything else like word document editing, media production, music/picture editing, tablets in general fall short because laptops/desktops are just better.
So if you want a media consumption device, the new Nexus 7 is probably better or even the iPad for that matter. But for productivity the spen will make up for the other shortcomings like lower screen pixel density, less frequent operating system updates, etc.
MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.
It took me ages to decide between the N7 and note 8, and I decided on the note 8. But now I realise, that as I'm going university next year, I'll probably need a laptop, and I'm confused all over again
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I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.
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Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.
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4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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How is it compared to 4.1?
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Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.
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I haven't had any complaints about the Note 8.0 speakers either.
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How is it compared to 4.1?
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Maybe more smooth
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I own the original nexus 7...
I currently own an ipad 4 (so I'm used to looking at retina display), I've had the note 10.1, nexus 10, etc....
Honestly I think 8" is the sweet spot. I want to love thenew nexus 7 so bad but I feel like 7" is just a tad too small. The extra screen area from an 8" tablet seems sooo much larger and more usable when browsing websites. Am I crazy? I feel like I keep reading about screen clarity vs spen vs whatever ... but to me the real battle is do you prefer 7" vs 8" - I'm probably going to get both and then return the one I dont' like. As I said, I'm used to the retina screen as well as the beautiful screen on my htc one; however just playing around with the note in the store, the screen honestly isn't that bad and colors are quite quite good.
That said, the nexus 7 screen is by far superior BUT I still think the larger size provides so much better screen real estate and thus ease of use.
Anyone not get the nexus 7 simply because they don't like a 7" tablet?