Hey i would like to control the volume the song selection (next , previous, pause ) and accept calls from the headphone jack.
I was wondering if it was possible to do all these things from a headphone jack and still pass trough the audio.
If it was possible i would like to control these aspects using a micro controller (attiny 85).
I am aware of some headsets which are capable of doing this so i thought it should be possible, but haven't found much on the subject.
I found an article and a diagram (hack a day) on how to achieve the song selection.But i stil don't know how i would accept and decline calls and control the volume.
I think the accept and decline calls feature would be the same as play pause. Not 100% sure but isn't it play pause on apple headsets that answers calls?
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ourtut said:
I think the accept and decline calls feature would be the same as play pause. Not 100% sure but isn't it play pause on apple headsets that answers calls?
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That could be the case, but i cant test that as i don'et own any kind of headset.
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That could be the case, but i cant test that as i don'et own any kind of headset.
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Check out this thread http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii/189523-final-soultion-why-most-headsets-wont-work.html Good luck!
Thx that was really helpful. Now i know that the volume is controlled by the the mic now i just need to know what i have to do there.
For example if i want to pause a song i need to ground the sleeve part ( the gold part of a TRRS headphone connector that is closest to the sleeve ) of the headphone jack. Now i just need to know how i can adjust the volume. Iv been looking on google but as of yet i have been unsuccessful .
Let me just copy and edit that text over here, because their website CSS is quite borked, misisng text......
In all of the following explanations- imagine that the tip of the plug is facing right.
The standard 3.5 mm headphones (no in-line controls on the cable) use the configuration of (from left to right)
TRS (Tip, Ring, Sleeve). The pin-out for these connections is: Left Audio, Right Audio, Ground.
Connection types for headphones with a mic (and newer ones with volume control) are configured in
TRRS (Tip, Ring, Ring, Sleeve).
On TRRS there are 2 types:
1. The original TRRS configuration was created by Nokia and has a pinout of: Left Audio, Right Audio, Mic, Ground.
2. Apple came along and in typical elitist fashion changed their pinout to: Left Audio, Right Audio, Ground, Mic.
This is why many apple headsets will not work with android, because the last 2 connections, for Mic and Ground are switched. The issue is with the hardware.
The way that songs are skipped (forwards, backwards, and pause) occurs by sending signals down the ground channel (when you tap the button it shoots an electrical signal that the phone will pick up and interpret).
The way that volume is increased/decreased occurs by sending signals down the Mic channel.
This is why- if you try a set of newer iPhone earbuds on the SGS3- as I have- the center button does nothing, but yet the volume up and volume down both pause tracks, and allow you to skip them!!
Additionally, Apple has patents on their TRRS connection- in fact on the resistances (the actual ohm resistance in-line on the controls- not to get scientific or anything
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) so that the headphones are designed to work only with Apple products. In other words- you could have a device with the same TRRS Pinout as apple products- but the headset wont work because the resistances (ohms) of the headphones send signals that your phone is not allowed to interpret into the correct actions (since apple patented these)[djdosage]
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Does anyone know of a way to make the phone keep vibrating after a missed call till a button is pressed or something? This would be handy so if i miss a call on my motor bike, I don't have to always look for the flashing led or the screen.
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I don't know about making it vibrate, but I just use these on my motorbike:
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Its a bluetooth clip that supports A2DP for music, and handsfree for calls, and has a standard 3.5mm jack for any set of earbuds (or home stereo, or whatever). The clip houses the controls and the mic for taking a call.
so, what I've done is embedded speakers into my helmet (taken from cheapo headphones with a snapped over-the-head band), and I plug them into this which clips onto my jacket/shirt.
Then, I can take calls by pressing the button on my jacket, and also control music streaming from my phone at the same time, all while riding around on the bike.
Works great, but the people can hardly hear me over the wind unless I pull over first!
spb phone suite has an option for that, if you dont mind spending the 20 bucks (it has lots of other useful features)
i recently bought the motorola S9 BT headset and use it exactly for this purpose. It sounds awesome, especially when i change the rubber ear pieces so they fit better in my ear! The controls are easy to access and it works *****en with my mogul/titan phone. Now i can listen to all the music i've been missing out on for the last couple of years (while on my way to work). Now if i could only find a way to listen to FM radio!
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I don't know about making it vibrate, but I just use these on my motorbike:
Its a bluetooth clip that supports A2DP for music, and handsfree for calls, and has a standard 3.5mm jack for any set of earbuds (or home stereo, or whatever). The clip houses the controls and the mic for taking a call.
so, what I've done is embedded speakers into my helmet (taken from cheapo headphones with a snapped over-the-head band), and I plug them into this which clips onto my jacket/shirt.
Then, I can take calls by pressing the button on my jacket, and also control music streaming from my phone at the same time, all while riding around on the bike.
Works great, but the people can hardly hear me over the wind unless I pull over first!
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my phone wont vibrate while on vibrate? I havent killed the Led either.
any suggestions?
Phonealarm does this as well as a ton of other stuff.
I have been experiencing this ever since I got my Droid X. I have researched it and found a little about it on some other forums. It seems like the Droid X's headphone jack is not a standard 3.5 mm headphone jack. Its the standard SIZE but doesn't have the normal 3 pins. The Droid X has 4 pins. The extra pin is used for music playback control and/or for a "headset" microphone. I can't get seem to find any official information from Motorola about this at all. The official specs just say "3.5mm headphone jack".
You're like "So what dude? Who cares?"
The problem is that most headphones (like the ones I have tested out) have the standard 3 connector pins. This means they don't fit exactly right into the jack, and can apparently bridge other pins in an undesirable way. What's that mean? For me the symptoms are simple:
-with the headphones plugged in, if I wiggle them, my phone tries to make a phone call
-Alternately, if I have music playing, depending on the player, the playback pauses / resumes. I'm not sure if its detecting the "headphones unplugged" event or the "control button pressed" event.
On occasion, this makes using my headphones on my Droid X really god damned annoying. The other forums I had read basically said you just need to buy a 4-pin adaptor. Radioshack didn't have any, and referred me to the internet.
Has anyone else experienced this? If you're feeling curious, try to reproduce it. Do I just have a screwed up headphone jack?
My headphone jack has been friendly to all of my headphones and adapter cables
However, I do have a pair of the iPod Touch 4 pin headphones with mic and controls, and the controls are screwy at best.
Do your headphones have 4 conductors like this:
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Or only 3?
I had the same problem on my original Droid. I would be listening to Pandora with my phone in my pocket and then it would start a media player in the back ground and play another song over the Pandora station. I noticed of I twisted the headphone jack it would skip songs or stop them. I rooted and went with cyanogenmod and that has fixed my problem.
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Do your headphones have 4 conductors like this:
Or only 3?
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My iPod headphones are like that. My others are just the 3 conductor and they have no problems.
The iPod headphones act funny, volume up dials the last dialed phone number lol
I have this exact same problem on my droid 1. I figured I had to try to jam something down there to get it to work, but If there is an easier way to fix this I am definately interested. My headphones only have the 3 connections, so do I need to get the 4?
I guess no one has any ideas?
I have no idea, my regular 3 pin headphones work just fine, no errant phone calls or weirdness. It could be the jack on your phone is 'off' a bit and the one of the contacts think it's keeps getting signals.
Anyone know of a microphone that I could just plug into the audio port and leave there or anything? Does it support audio input through the mic jack?
The recorded audio on the Iconia is completely awful and useless.
Where's the mic jack? All I have ever seen is the headphone jack, USB, HDMI and charging ports.
Yes it does support audio input through the headphone jack. The internal mic is so bad it's practically impossible to do a video chat. I used a psp headset I had lying around, works like a charm for gchat/skype.
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Really? I tried plugging in a standard headset that works on my Acer laptop and it certainly cut off the internal mic but sadly no sound from the headset mic.
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Really? I tried plugging in a standard headset that works on my Acer laptop and it certainly cut off the internal mic but sadly no sound from the headset mic.
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I think you need something like this:
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ok,my plug only has 3 sections not 4. Can you give a part no for your Headset?
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ok,my plug only has 3 sections not 4. Can you give a part no for your Headset?
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The 4 section headset comes standard with most of today's smartphones.
I have tried the headset that came with the Iphone 3GS and the Blackberry and they both worked on the A500 for making calls over Skype. The sound quality from the Blackberry headset was much better that the one from Apple.
But, I did notice that the internal mic produced better results when using the recorder function.
Probably need to adjust the mic level on the external headset, but I could not find the setting to adjust this. When pressing the volume button on the A500, a set of slider bars would appear - sometimes there would be a setting for the mic, but more often this would be missing.
Can someone shed some light on how to get the mic slider bar to show up. Thanks.
Dug out the headset that came with my Nexus One and it worked! Couldn't see a volume control for the mic though,just the three standard ones.
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ok,my plug only has 3 sections not 4. Can you give a part no for your Headset?
Thanks
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http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Red-3-5mm-H...245670?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a746d3e6
Almost all headset with mic will work on A500, just ebay it
can anyone else confirm the iphone headset works?
the mic on my iphone headset doesn't work at all in the A500. it works in the iphone so i know its not faulty.
i then tried an "urban ears" set and the mic works perfectly so i know its not my A500.
Will Apple Earphones with Remote and Mic work with motorola defy?
I mean will i hear music normal? i had apple ipod shuffle earphones and they worked gread. not sure for this one with remote.. has anyone tryed?
Check around here, I've posted my findings. I'll let you find your answer.
I've tried them and yes the earphones and mic work flawlessly.
The buttons however are somewhat erratic. During a call, it sometimes work. But when I'm not on a call, it never worked.
I suggest you try the P series of Meelectronics headphones. I use Meelectronics M9 and the quality for the price is awesome. I ordered the M9P (P is at the end of every model that has microfone), can't wait to try it out.
On their website it says that many Android phones are supported (Defy is supported).
Phone Version Device Compatibility (designated as the P version)
M9P review. Other can be googled.
Well, i have some Apple In-Ear Headphones, but nor the Microphone to the Remote works correctly. The Microphone does not work at all, phone does not recieve any signalling from the headphone, the only thing is pressing middle-button produces a short circuit detected by the phone. Remote does not work correctly, middle-button does nothing at all and + and - buttons sort of double presses-hold the call button, so in some apps you can change tracks. In PowerAmp you can change to next track by pressing + or - button. In stock music player, pressing those just toggles play/pause and fire the music app.
I readed a lot about this and its something to do with the circuitery inside the remote, made to work on iPhones and iPods and not well understood by android phones. About the mic, my theory is that it does not work because of the resistance of the microphone inside, checked connections and should work, also tried with differents headphones w/mic and they worked....
definitly you should try them before, if you're planning getting those, maybe you're lucky and mic works like arvs0z and use "Headset Button Control" App to fix the issue about controls.
EDIT: Got them working almost flawlessly
Removing some resistors from the remote, i got the center button and microphone working, the only problem is that the microphone has very low imput gain, its almost unusable, got to get it VERY close to the mouth to get a very soft signal in phone. BTW the center button works almost prefectly, but + and - dont work at all.
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I've tried them and yes the earphones and mic work flawlessly.
The buttons however are somewhat erratic. During a call, it sometimes work. But when I'm not on a call, it never worked.
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really how its possible I tried but mic is not working, somebody here said that due to some resister inside the mic so its work only with certain model and iphone only
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I suggest you try the P series of Meelectronics headphones. I use Meelectronics M9 and the quality for the price is awesome. I ordered the M9P (P is at the end of every model that has microfone), can't wait to try it out.
On their website it says that many Android phones are supported (Defy is supported).
Phone Version Device Compatibility (designated as the P version)
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hey, and what you think about these Melectronics M9P? It is a good choice i think and i might also get one of these for myself!
Maybe of topic, but I used a pals Blackberry headset for couple of days and earphones and mic worked flawlessly. no music controls only the answer call button though.
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hey, and what you think about these Melectronics M9P? It is a good choice i think and i might also get one of these for myself!
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Using the m9p and i'm very satisfied. Defy & m9p, perfect match. Music quality is awesome, switching songs, answering calls without a problem...
using apple headset too! works perfectly
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using apple headset too! works perfectly
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How did you get this working?
I tried my Samsung Galaxy S headphones in the Defy but they do not fit. I have Apple Iphone headphones (the one with a volume control and mic) and these work fine for music but I do not have music controls or MIC.
Anybody know where I can get stock defy earphones?
I really like them . But the left earpiece is broken
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I read lot of posts about Apple headsets, buts i can't find answer.
I have iPhone compatibble Logitech Ultimae Ears earphones with mic and three buttons like this:
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Earphones works, but microphone and buttons don't work (yes, i read threads about it) - i look headset have 4-pole JACK, but when connector is pluged in phone i can see last pole of JACK:
My question: my Defy have only stereo (3-pole) jack, or why i can't insert conector completly?
Thanks 4 answers.
sorry for my english
Defy has a 4 pole jack and that's exactly how my headphones' jack looks like (it's because of the jack position).
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I read lot of posts about Apple headsets, buts i can't find answer.
I have iPhone compatibble Logitech Ultimae Ears earphones with mic and three buttons
Earphones works, but microphone and buttons don't work (yes, i read threads about it)
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What version of UE headphones do you have? Did you ever get the microphone to work?
Ive just accidentally broken the headsets that came with the phone, and now Im looking for another headset.
The problem with our phone is that the pinout (the mic and ground pins) is inverted in comparison to samsung, LG, HTC etc ). Therefore, we cant buy just about any headset. Also, I want a wired headset (not a wireless one).
Is anyone using a wired headset in which the button works? I want to be able to take and drop calls, and long press to skip track (which would work if taking and dropping calls works).
Yes, I'm using Jabra Chill headset (got it new for 10€), the pins on the jack are the same as original Huawei headset. Also I'm using Headset Button app, that can emulate multi button headset, so I can skip tracks, forward/reverse songs, etc.
Thanks for the info. Just needed to know one more thing. Does the mic work as well? Can you use the button to receive calls? Also, do you have a u8800 or one of the variants? Is there any difference in the pinout for the u8800 and the variants?
Mine phone is U8800, my brother has U8800 pro. Both phones have same pinout. The microphone and the button is also working. If you are using the Aurora rom, you should also tick "use headset microphone" in sound settings.
Do you know a headset like the one you pointed but in-ear?
Those are better at isolating the ambient sound.
Ive ordered one. Lets hope it works out when it is delivered. Thanks for the help Schrauff.
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Do you know a headset like the one you pointed but in-ear?
Those are better at isolating the ambient sound.
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Maybe these? http://www.jabra.com/sites/mobile/na-us/products/pages/jabrarhythm.aspx?tab=support#UID6
I haven't tried them out, but they have 4-pin 3,5mm jack and mic+button.
I'm also found the a-JAYS One+ which is a great looking headsets with a flat tangle-free cable and has a mic+button.
Here's a nice review: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...and-performance-without-a-hit-to-your-wallet/
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Anyone tried one and can confirm that the button works?
Just got the Sony Ericsson MH-650. In ear, perfect noise isolation and the button works quite well. Awesome sound quality as well. Thumping bass and crystal clear trebles
Totally recommended for everyone. At Rs. 1500 (do your conversions, I'm too lazy), theyre really nice.
Just bought a Novero Brooklyn Wired Stereo Headset with Mic http://www.novero.com/collections/music-headsets/brooklyn.html but it turns out that it's not compatibly.
I listen only one channel on both phones and when I click the button I listen regular stereo.
They seem to be great headphones, but not compatible with our 8800.
Crap
Found this life-saver converter:
Adapter Pinout: T-T, R1-R1, R2-S, S-R2
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here
It switches the Ring2 with the Sleeve.
Probably there are more cheaper version on ebay/dealexterme.
Apparently our phone has Sony Ericsson Xperia compatible pinouts, not iPhone compatible.