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Hello all,
I used a 4 gb mini sd for around 4 months without any serious issues (soft reset fixed everything for me.) Then, out of nowhere, the card just became unreadable. Couldn't access any data from it and I couldn't even reformat it. Completely dead.
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
I just wanted to post a poll regarding this issue. Hope this is of interest to everyone.
psargent said:
Hello all,
I used a 4 gb mini sd for around 4 months without any serious issues (soft reset fixed everything for me.) Then, out of nowhere, the card just became unreadable. Couldn't access any data from it and I couldn't even reformat it. Completely dead.
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
I just wanted to post a poll regarding this issue. Hope this is of interest to everyone.
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Well if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't the same apply to SD cards? I had used a 4gb SD card for 2 years in my Magician and Prophet without a problem...I think it was a Transcend.
Matterhorn said:
Well if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't the same apply to SD cards? I had used a 4gb SD card for 2 years in my Magician and Prophet without a problem...I think it was a Transcend.
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I think it does apply to standard size SD cards too:
I looked at the Sandisk site and the only 4 gig cards that were being sold were listed as SDHC. Nothing on the official site over 2gb that wasn't high capacity. I was able to track down the Trancend card you were talking about from a reseller (and numerous other ones including Ebay) however, if you go to the official Transcend site you see that there are no standard SD cards in a 4gb size.
This leads me to believe that the info I have been reading regarding this is correct. If the manufacturers are really putting out 4gb cards, why are they not on their official websites?
But the point remains that these 4gb cards (hacked or not) do indeed work in the Trinity (as well as other devices.) It's just for how long that is the question. I just want to find out with what regularity these cards dying so we can judge whether or not it is a worthy risk to buy one and trust our precious data to it.
Matterhorn, I appreciate you relaying your experience with the 4gb standard SD card. Perhaps the hacking and reformatting is more stable in the standard size as compared to the mini version? Hopefully this poll will help us figure it out.
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Matterhorn, I appreciate you relaying your experience with the 4gb standard SD card. Perhaps the hacking and reformatting is more stable in the standard size as compared to the mini version? Hopefully this poll will help us figure it out.
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The label on the 4gb SD Transcend looks exactly like the official Transcend color scheme. The card itself is in blue plastic and the label is in vibrant colors with Transcend, 150x, and 4GB written on the label. I believe this is the same one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208086. It also has a serial number stamped on the back. I really don't think it is a fake Transcend.
My Topram 4gb miniSD continues to faithfully work in my Trinity. I don't know anything about this ebay vendor, this link is just for info http://item.express.ebay.com/TOPRAM...320102528838QQihZ011QQtrZexpQQcmdZExpressItem. It came packaged like an authentic card, some others have no professional packaging. Perhaps it will give up one day, if it does I'll report it right away. I know there has been quite a few people stating that their miniSD cards have quit on them, which I'm sure is true, but I can't help but believe that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, meaning that people that have no problems with their cards are less likely to post results.
I've been using a 4gb card in my Trinity for about a month now.
Gave me a few problems with Media player at one stage. The MSME files for the library dissappeared and I couldnt get them deleted to fix the media library problem.
Put the card in my desktop reader and suddenly they appeared again!!
Since then - no probs. Have it well filled up with mixeded media and prog files.
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The label on the 4gb SD Transcend looks exactly like the official Transcend color scheme. The card itself is in blue plastic and the label is in vibrant colors with Transcend, 150x, and 4GB written on the label. I believe this is the same one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208086. It also has a serial number stamped on the back. I really don't think it is a fake Transcend.
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I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this still doesn't account for why 4gb standard SD (non-HC) cards are not on the company's official website.
psargent said:
Hello all,
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
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Wouldnt it stand to reason that if they were 2gb cards "hacked" to 4gb they wouldnt have the capability to store 4gb worth of data? What you are inferring is the "Tardis" effect. Bigger on the inside than the outside which to my knowledge is not currently possible. A bit like having a normal sized mini car with 7 MPV seats inside. I think is just a matter of intermittent hardware to hardware clash/incompatibility not a 2gb hack.
Must admit,have suffered from the card corruption syndrome for the first time in my life whilst using the M700 trinity.Talk about heart attack!!!! The thing that makes me think it is a hardware compatability issue is that I have used that same 4gb miniSD in my wizard variants,prophet variants,treo's etc for over 7months no stress. Hence I know the card is good (thanx mobymemory!)
4GB Problems
I bought a no-name 4GB miniSD cheap on ebay. It worked fine initially in my Trinity, but only took a few launches of TomTom to get corrupted - "no maps found" and hundreds of smiley faces in File Explorer. I was always able to reformat and start over, but soon got tired of that. Strangely the same card performed perfectly when used in an I-mate Jam (inside an SD adapter) or when in a card reader on the PC. I got rid of the card and got a Kingston 2GB and have had no problems since.
I just got more TomTom maps and am trying to decide whether to take the plunge again. Anyone got any positive 4GB stories?
gynkotek said:
I bought a no-name 4GB miniSD cheap on ebay. It worked fine initially in my Trinity, but only took a few launches of TomTom to get corrupted
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So far so good, happens the same to me
gynkotek said:
Strangely the same card performed perfectly when used in an I-mate Jam (inside an SD adapter)
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I do not have the Jam but tested on my XDAII and works perfectly!!
How can I format it?
well i have a 4gb trans. SD 150x it works in my other mp3 player now for a long time, but as far as mini i dont know
i got a topram atm and it seems like it worked for a format or 2 and died after didnt even get to use it in my pocketPC, sending RMA request now :/
i was really looking forward to hear more good news about the 4gb topram miniSD but i dont know atm
I think maybe the poll should be changed to include SDHC cards since that is a variable that is very important on judging the 4gb cards. SDHC cards work but are just not reliable yet in the current roms.
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I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this still doesn't account for why 4gb standard SD (non-HC) cards are not on the company's official website.
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Now this is very strange:
Go to http://www.topram.com/
look at the picture in the middle right under "MiniSD" (orange background): The picture shows a 4.0GB MiniSD Card
BUT
If you click on the picture they tell you only the following cards do exist:
120X 2GB miniSD
120X 1GB miniSD
60X 512MB miniSD
60X 256MB miniSD
no 4.0GB MiniSD
What is this??????????
I tried very hard to find Matterhorns Card in Germany. No success. Simply cant find them. Not on any german online shop. Not in any real world shop. Very very strange.
saminegm said:
Now this is very strange:
Go to http://www.topram.com/
look at the picture in the middle right under "MiniSD" (orange background): The picture shows a 4.0GB MiniSD Card
BUT
If you click on the picture they tell you only the following cards do exist:
120X 2GB miniSD
120X 1GB miniSD
60X 512MB miniSD
60X 256MB miniSD
no 4.0GB MiniSD
What is this??????????
I tried very hard to find Matterhorns Card in Germany. No success. Simply cant find them. Not on any german online shop. Not in any real world shop. Very very strange.
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Oh ye of little faith
I bought mine from an ebay shop. You won't find them in Germany because they are from Asia and they're not marketed here. It came in sealed plastic and looked very professionally packaged. As far as the web site goes...how up to date are half the manufacturers web sites on the web?...not very.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=4gb+miniSD+topram&category0=
My 4gb SD Transcend card works perfect now that I have updated WM6.
mmone3 said:
My 4gb SD Transcend card works perfect now that I have updated WM6.
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That's very good news. Thanks for that info!
good morning guys.
let me share some information i have about flash memory.
few month ago one big electronic shop in my ciy was offering usb flash disk of sizes up to 16 gb. in very cheap price.
alot of my frinds buy that memory.
after few days alot of them returen to the shop to exchange them becuse the memory damged.
some of them did not have anyproblem untile today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the reason is .
these memory are just 4 gb memeory and haked to be like 16 gb.
so if u try to write one bite over 4 gb you will start write this bite over the first bite of card and you will damge the data on that bite. and maybe the card will not be usable again.
this hake is known to be used on other media before flash memorys.
it was used in some hard disk to foll consumers.
the same story here.
if u have a 4 gb Mini-SD . just try to put more than 2 gb and your data will be gone (bye bye bye). maybe the card will be not usable again .
hssona said:
good morning guys.
if u have a 4 gb Mini-SD . just try to put more than 2 gb and your data will be gone (bye bye bye). maybe the card will be not usable again .
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This theory has been proven to be not true over and over again...search the forums.
hm, hello and from me..
I bought 4 gb minisd Albatron, and after 2 days, the card just stopped. I tryed to format it, but no success. The card just died. After that i read this topic and searched on the albatron site to find some mini sd 4 gb card, and i cant find... after that i exchange the card with 1 gb Kingston and since then - no problems at all.. And i think that this 4 gb minisd cards are really hacked and if you have luck - you may use it maybe 5-6 months.. but i really dont buy 4 gb card, until the manufacturer says that they have one.
Regards,
4Gb Topram mini SD - fine. I've used 2 of these and they have been OK.
2Gb Transcend mini SD - useless. Would corrupt in a few hours no matter what I tried.
1Gb O2 branded mini SD - fine.
I'm still using a generic 4GB card that I bought of EBay and its settling down fine after about 3 months use. although at times, it can be just about noticably slow.
I've had a lot of trouble with the card 'dissappearing' ow and again and the Media Player library going awol. However, the fix's for those problems are well published on other threads.
I purschased a Sandisk 4GB SDHC card hoping it might be a bit faster, th Trinity cant even see it!! So much for SDHC support.
Hey guys, I tried to search about this topic in the forum but I don'y anything about it or was it just already in pit of the forum?
Anyways, I would like to ask the maximum capacity of memory card for Elf(in)? I am planning to buy a micro-sd and I just want to buy the best available.
Does it support SDHC memory cards? And also, does using a large GB of memory presents a risk on my device to be brick when time goes on?
Thanks for the help guys!
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Hey guys, I tried to search about this topic in the forum but I don'y anything about it or was it just already in pit of the forum?
Anyways, I would like to ask the maximum capacity of memory card for Elf(in)? I am planning to buy a micro-sd and I just want to buy the best available.
Does it support SDHC memory cards? And also, does using a large GB of memory presents a risk on my device to be brick when time goes on?
Thanks for the help guys!
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I have 4gb micro sdhc and it works fine. I have heard that 8GB won't function properly after a while. But I am not a genius
SanDisk 8GB
I've been working with a SanDisk 8GB MicroSD HC for about 4 months now, and still have had no issues...
And that goes without saying that I think It's a fake SanDisk, because of the packaging.
Have an 8GB SanDisk on my Elfin. Works great.
@vette95: Good to hear that! Thanks for responding..
@htedum: how long have you bean using your 8gb micro-sd? Haven't experienced any problem yet? Any slow down or hangs?
i've been using 8gb in my elf for over a year and did not ever have any issues or hangs so i would recommend it.
just my 2 cents
Wow! Thanks bro for the feedback! Will buy 8gb now.. hehe..
Been using it for two weeks now; no problems at all. I've overclocked to 273 using HomeScreen, maybe that helps. Loaded up 6G worth of music and 1G worth of movies. Installed PocketPlayer (and TCPMP for movies), and I have a slick, portable media player. Battery life isn't bad at all, but I've ordered a 2500mAh replacement, waiting for that to come in.
A tip - be sure to pick up an original, name-brand card, even if you have to pay more. A lot of fakes going around, they may slow down your phone.
@vette95: No problems with your fake?
I've been searching google how to detect fake micro-sd but unfortunately the only info I got was to make sure the serial of the memory is readable and also try to call on the manufacturer and confirm the serial. Of course, I cannot do that when I am in the store, to check each items and call them. LOL. So do you know other ways how to know it if it is genuine?
The best bet would be to avoid ebay and the like; that's where most of them are floating around. Since you're buying retail, you should be pretty safe, since you can go right back to the store if you discover that it's fake.
From what I've read, there's also the issue of classes; best pick up class 6 or at least class 4. Class 2 will be slow.
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The best bet would be to avoid ebay and the like; that's where most of them are floating around. Since you're buying retail, you should be pretty safe, since you can go right back to the store if you discover that it's fake.
From what I've read, there's also the issue of classes; best pick up class 6 or at least class 4. Class 2 will be slow.
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Also check the packaging. Check if the fonts are printed alright and not fading or anything.
I have already bought a 4gb sdhc class 6 kingston micro-sd. There is no 8gb available in store so I decided to just go with 4gb and just upgrade when I need it. It was fast and I guest it is not fake(though I'm not sure). Thanks for the advice guys. I hope this will also be helpful for people who are planning to upgrade memory.
As far as I know, Transcend and Sandisk are the brands that are flooding in the market which are fake so I really looked for other brand. Fortunately I found one and it is made in Japan(the fakes are made in China written at the back of this brands) so I'm little confident with the memory I bought. hehe..
ive been using an 8gb card too for awhile now on my elfin. just got my 16gb card last month and havent had a problem yet. everything runs very smoothly.
i have 8GB V-gen and running well until now...
8gb
i´ve used a 8gb sdhc since a month without problems...it runs smoothly...
I bought a 16 gb sandisk sdhc. It didn't even register regardless of what drivers I installed on my phone.
Hi there,
i want to make some Thread about the SD Cards for the use of Windows Phone 7 and want to collect information. I Think many people who want to use WP7 on HD2 have to buy a new one, even my 16 GB SanDisk Class 6 is not compatible.
I found this on web:
Hi, actually the Samsung Focus has a 16GB internal memory and expandable up to 32GB. So you can insert a 32GB micro SD card on this device. However there are certain limitations when it comes to the micro SD card. Compatible micro SD cards will be branded as “Windows Phone 7 Compatible” on the packaging. Approved cards can be obtained from the manufacturer or carrier. (The SanDisk 8GB class 2 micro SD card has been certified.) Many commercially available retail micro SD cards are not approved for use in Windows Phone 7. Use of unapproved cards may cause performance degradation or device instability, including unexpected reset and loss of user data.
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So first SD Card witch is compatible is the SanDisk 8GB class 2 micro SD card
- SanDisk microSDHC_8GB
SDSDQY-8192-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_16GB
SDSDQY-016G-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_32GB
SDSDQ-032G-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_4GB
SDSDQ-004G-A11M
-SanDisk microSD_2 GB
SDSDQ-002G-A11M
edit: ah sry i think wrong section
i use a 32gb SDHC sandisk (don't know the class but i think this is the regular one...)
For WP7 i use the 2GB SanDisc that was sold with the phone. I had crashs at first install but after Hardreset it is working without lags or crashes. Everything is fine.
Ultimaex said:
For WP7 i use the 2GB SanDisc that was sold with the phone. I had crashs at first install but after Hardreset it is working without lags or crashes. Everything is fine.
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you sure? i also had insert my 2 GB after the 16 GB makes crashes...but i think it's still not included in system, because i only git 180 MB storage i'll try out at home with the offcial post of WP7 ROM
but so far i know only class 2 sd's from sandisk are working
I have a sandisk 4gb class 4, everything works normally from the first boot
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
My 16GB Sandisk class 2 worked then all of a sudden the phone kept rebooting constantly. I had to reflash again to fix the reboot, 1 hour later it kept screwing up again.
i have wifi problems with my sandisc 2 gb , today i will be tryin lixar on 16gb
I also tried the 2GB SD Card, that came with the phone. It doesn't work. The phone shows only 15mb and the free space is full after a few minutes using it.
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you sure? i also had insert my 2 GB after the 16 GB makes crashes...but i think it's still not included in system, because i only git 180 MB storage i'll try out at home with the offcial post of WP7 ROM
but so far i know only class 2 sd's from sandisk are working
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Yea, phone memory is VERY low but i copied 1,5gb music on my phone with that ****ty zune software and i can play it with the music player on wp7. Looks like the card is in use but only a low ammount for the system i think.
My Kingston 4GB Micro SDHC class 4 works but I'm finding that the Phone can get very laggy. I didn't have this problem when there was no SD card in the phone. I'm guessing its my SD card?
Can everyone post how the phone runs with their SD cards.
My 8GB Class 4 Kingston (SDC4/8GB) work like a charm :>
romskii said:
you sure? i also had insert my 2 GB after the 16 GB makes crashes...but i think it's still not included in system, because i only git 180 MB storage i'll try out at home with the offcial post of WP7 ROM
but so far i know only class 2 sd's from sandisk are working
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same here...shipped sd card didnt work for me
sthEn said:
My 8GB Class 4 Kingston (SDC4/8GB) work like a charm :>
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hm interesting, with the same one my phone wont boot into wp7...
had a 1gb kingston card for testing purpose...this one worked like a charme
8GB Class 4 Toshiba , working very well here on WP7 . Also on Android.
Transcend Micro SD HC 8GB works for me.
tengaar said:
I also tried the 2GB SD Card, that came with the phone. It doesn't work. The phone shows only 15mb and the free space is full after a few minutes using it.
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have the same problem. 2GB Sandisk SD
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- SanDisk microSDHC_8GB
SDSDQY-8192-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_16GB
SDSDQY-016G-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_32GB
SDSDQ-032G-A11M
- SanDisk microSDHC_4GB
SDSDQ-004G-A11M
-SanDisk microSD_2 GB
SDSDQ-002G-A11M
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Hi bro, cheers for that information. Checked the sources you provided. Interesting comments there, one saying that SanDisk withdrew its compatibility Page since they haven't tested their (those) cards on WP7 yet themselves...
So we actually are left out in the wild with as much info as before. So it is even more important that people here report their experience with their cards.
I would strongly recommend, that people pay very close attention to the performance and any interesting detail before they post reports here. This would ensure quality of this thread is high. Maybe you, the OP could add cards, that have been verified by more than one user as working well to the first post? May i suggest that?
cheers...
Kingston 8 GB class 4 SDHC working fine on WP7
Class 4 Sandisk 8GB, works amazingly!, first flash, of course i hard reset it when it was flashed as per win-mo days
Was using Kingston 8gb class 4. Phone picks up the card fine but I was seeing random lags throughout system . It also slowed the market place down to where it was dreadful to download an app. When I removed card. The system is incredibly speedy, and shutdown speeds are very quick.
I am not sure if this is a general problem with these cards but I am going to send mine into Kingston for a replacement, I've read some reviews that there quality control has been hit and miss and some cards don't operate at rated speed.
I need to use w7. Class4 32gb card is available. How can I use this card in w7, or can I use without any problem which I use with rum. I tried the reset at startup which puts rum always opens by chance, but after seeing this at a time card but gets stuck constantly scratching his rum. Is there a solution or stable rom 32gb class 4 card, which runs with the idea here?
I did my English is not good sorry for that translation google translate
you can try every rom
but its not the rom but your card that is laggy
not every card is good for wp7 so your have to change your card
I'm sorry English is not very good .. Do you have a rom that will support my card now, but I find it needed? previously or currently using a 32gb card and wonder if you have friends among you?
barikatdiss said:
I'm sorry English is not very good .. Do you have a rom that will support my card now, but I find it needed? previously or currently using a 32gb card and wonder if you have friends among you?
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No ROM made, not possible
Need new SD card
not all SD card work! you SD card no good, sorry!
what is the maximum number GB card and supports the need to have some class?
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what is the maximum number GB card and supports the need to have some class?
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Do you have advice as SD card?
class 6 16gig i have works super not sure about 32 gig cards mate, to expensive for me
Well, recently, the future output will support 32 gb card for WP7 I wonder?
barikatdiss said:
Well, recently, the future output will support 32 gb card for WP7 I wonder?
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nothing to do with the size, 32GB is the maximum our hardware is capable of taking, buying a 32GB card for our device in the HOPE that it works seems a bit mental to me, yours doesnt work by the sound of it, but that is not because of the size, some of us believe its to do with random access speeds, class 2 or 4 is usually a good bet but by no means will they give you a 100% chance of it working.
Both my Sandisk 32gb cards have worked fine for me... 1 is class 2 with part number ending in A11M, the other is class 4 ending in P36A. Sandisk is a good brand and are pretty consistent in their cards, but even so, there's no 100% certainty that getting the same card will have the same exact performance... but I believe Sandisk gives you the best chance of working well.
I have also tried with my Kingston class 4 32gb card, but that card didn't work too well... was laggy, and kept resetting and not reading the card after reset.
What brand of SD card are you using?
integral micro sd hc 32gb class 4
Hello,
I am pleased to report that the Sandisk microSDXC 128gb card does work in the p6800, stock JB MD3. The card must be formatted to FAT32. The card is shipped formatted to exFAT.
Enjoy!
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. Ahead of it's time.
Arobase40 said:
This 128gb card is still a bit expensive atm and unfortunately with not very good performance.
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I purchased it from Amazon when they were offering the card (pre-release) for $119USD, so less than $1USD per GB. Not too bad. The write performance is OK nothing great. But, the card can store my entire .mp4 music collection with no card swapping!
Given the discounted price, I'm happy.
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I purchased it from Amazon when they were offering the card (pre-release) for $119USD, so less than $1USD per GB. Not too bad. The write performance is OK nothing great. But, the card can store my entire .mp4 music collection with no card swapping!
Given the discounted price, I'm happy.
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from former exp with sandisk 64gb card, sometimes the card is not recognized (already formatted it with fat32), so the tablet need to be restarted several times, eventually it will recognized the card, is the issue also appear for the 128gb ?
Thanks.
bakpau said:
from former exp with sandisk 64gb card, sometimes the card is not recognized (already formatted it with fat32), so the tablet need to be restarted several times, eventually it will recognized the card, is the issue also appear for the 128gb ?
Thanks.
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No, but my Samsung Galaxy 5 player did take awhile to recognize the card. Perhaps it was because the card has over 17,000 files!
great news :good:, I will also try
Samsung EVO 64gb
I want to share my experience with you.
Long time waiting and trying this thing 64gb to work with my Gtab 7.7 without succes until today.
I received this Samsung EVO 64gb UHS-I from Amazon.fr and right from the box it did work with device. Yes happy to see that and more happy to get all my stuff from the 32gb on it readable and writable.
One remark, my Gtab is actually running under Kitkat Rom 4.4.4 of Carbon release 12 Sept. 2014.
Wait and see how long this will last....