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[Q] Orange in UK

Hi Guys,
just wondering, does anyone have a desire Z on orange UK? I was wondering if the phones are sent out with orange software etc rather than plain android operating system? I know the older phones orange used to brand them by not just the sticker but also their software...
Also are the phones normally simlocked?
One more thing - how has your experiance been in orange network? I have seen some complaints as to getting internet can be slow etc... Not sure if this is the right place to ask but would like to know...
I am planning to move to a desire z on orange - currently got a htc touch hd on O2.
Thanks for your help!

Orange as a network are not too bad, and are getting slowly better again.
Their phones will be sim locked, and also while locked you won't be able to install any new radio firmware on your phone (they just won't work).
They have been known to use their own launcher lately, however sense will still be installed so you can swap to htc's stock launcher, not sure on what they are doing with the Z though.
I have an unbranded unlocked z and running on orange, the signal is fantastic.

I got mine from Mobiles.co.uk and all their handsets are supposed to be unlocked and unbranded. Mine is definately unbranded but haven't tested if it's unlocked.

Do Orange even sell the DZ ? I can see the DHD on their website, so I guess there's a good chance the DZ is following behind.
Remember that coverage can vary greatly, depending on where you are. See if you can borrow a phone from someone you know who has Orange, to test the signal out in your area. Or get a free pay-as-you-go SIM from Orange to test out the signal before you commit. Orange and T-Mobile are merging, so their coverage should improve through that.
Orange is terrible where I am and Vodafone is good, but if I moved somewhere else it could easily be the other way round.

Well Orange and T-Mobile have/are merging so they will have the best coverage in the country come March.

Lennyuk said:
Well Orange and T-Mobile have/are merging so they will have the best coverage in the country come March.
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Well, if they both had dodgy coverage in a particular area, then with the merger they'll still have dodgy coverage there. So I'm not sure it's that simple ?

steviewevie said:
Well, if they both had dodgy coverage in a particular area, then with the merger they'll still have dodgy coverage there. So I'm not sure it's that simple ?
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how many places in the country don't get either signal though? only places right in the sticks would fail to get a signal.

Lennyuk said:
how many places in the country don't get either signal though? only places right in the sticks would fail to get a signal.
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You'd be suprised. For example, in my house the Orange and T-Mobile signals are bad (had them before), but Vodafone is fine. Similarly a friend's house in a different part of the country has the same issue (Vodafone isn't that great there, but a lot better than the Orange/T-Mobile signals).

Orange vs T-Mobile
Thanks guys... well I was planning to get the phone from CPW - like mentioned it is not offered directly from orange.
T mobile has good offers for the phone as well... but have read that when getting the phone from places like CPW, they cap the speed of data which has me concerned. Otherwise their 1GB allowance is definitely more attractive to try out.
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?

Audette said:
Thanks guys... well I was planning to get the phone from CPW - like mentioned it is not offered directly from orange.
T mobile has good offers for the phone as well... but have read that when getting the phone from places like CPW, they cap the speed of data which has me concerned. Otherwise their 1GB allowance is definitely more attractive to try out.
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?
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I am currently on ORange in Dundee with a Pro2, data and voice been fine almost anywhere in the city (3G loses a bit when I'm in the middle of my house but it IS a new build so the attic is extra thick for insulation. However I noticed that when I set up the T-Mobile/Orange roaming a few weeks ago, it picks up a strong T-Mobile signal in the places it couldn't before. Now I have taken out a Desire Z via MobilePhonesDirect.co.uk on T-Mobile and I'm still using the Orange SIM in the Desire until my contract runs out come February and it's given me no problems. Simply roams to T-Mobile in several consistent blackspots... Once the T-Mobile 3G can be used on Orange it'll be even better!

Audette said:
hmm anyone has got any experiance of T-mob data speeds?
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Multiple tests using speedtest.net app.
Down - Up
766 - 493
1455 - 503
1867 - 485
1872 - 470
1891 - 441
Wifi
Down - Up
9363 - 545
Am I getting what I should be getting?

Hello
I just happen to have upgraded to desireZ with cpw, and im on orange uk. Internet speed is fine (when u get H connection). In london though its pretty much everywhere
Whats best with orange is fact that they joined with t_mob and now the coverage is even better, although 3G will only start after Xmas :S...
Otherwise, phone is brill, but Im still getting used to android (used to be winmo for past 3 years...)
Hope this helps
sent from htc desire Z

I also upgraded via CPW, it's worth pointing out that 90% of their phones are sim unlocked and unbranded
Am currently on TMob and with the recent merge Tmob/orange you have the option to jump network when reception is crap, at the moment it's only 2g tho

Stea1thmode said:
I also upgraded via CPW, it's worth pointing out that 90% of their phones are sim unlocked and unbranded
Am currently on TMob and with the recent merge Tmob/orange you have the option to jump network when reception is crap, at the moment it's only 2g tho
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What do you think of the data speeds on T-mobile network? Do you experiance it to be slow??

wolek76 said:
Hello
I just happen to have upgraded to desireZ with cpw, and im on orange uk. Internet speed is fine (when u get H connection). In london though its pretty much everywhere
Whats best with orange is fact that they joined with t_mob and now the coverage is even better, although 3G will only start after Xmas :S...
Otherwise, phone is brill, but Im still getting used to android (used to be winmo for past 3 years...)
Hope this helps
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Am gonna be moving from Win Mo as well... so not even sure how much data usage I might need per month on android!!!!
Do you find that 500MB is sufficient for your use?

Audette said:
What do you think of the data speeds on T-mobile network? Do you experiance it to be slow??
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I've not done a speed test yet nor experienced any slowness, only when there's bad reception.
Audette said:
Am gonna be moving from Win Mo as well... so not even sure how much data usage I might need per month on android!!!!
Do you find that 500MB is sufficient for your use?
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To be honest I'm not sure, am on unlimited web n talk (internet) which works out to be 3gig for an extra fiver a month. I think with these types of phones you'd be better off with unlimited if you can get it

Is 500mb enough?
Well, I used to be on 500 for 18 months, and only once went over when my landline i-net was down due to BT. But now with the upgrade Ive gone for 1gig, and Im glad I did. This market thing is so much bigger than msofts winmo! Also, fone seems so much snappier with inet, utube,msn... I will deffo go over 500/month.
Just realized I havent installed skype yet...
Is 1gig gonna be enough...???
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wolek76 said:
Is 500mb enough?
Well, I used to be on 500 for 18 months, and only once went over when my landline i-net was down due to BT. But now with the upgrade Ive gone for 1gig, and Im glad I did. This market thing is so much bigger than msofts winmo! Also, fone seems so much snappier with inet, utube,msn... I will deffo go over 500/month.
Just realized I havent installed skype yet...
Is 1gig gonna be enough...???
sent from htc desire Z
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There's an app on market called NetCounter which shows your data usage, might be worth using that to help monitor data.

Im currently on Orange (contract now expired) and also looking to upgrade to a Desire Z with Orange (currently using HTC Touch HD).
I'm going to call Orange direct first and see what I can get. If they still don't do the Z then I might get it through Phones4U, on Orange, as they are offering the Z for free on a 24 month contract @ £25 pm which seems quite good.
Phones4U can also do upgrades so I have sent them a request to see if they can offer anything better than the £25 pm contract.

GSM/WCDMA and Orange

My partner and myself have been having real issues on my DHD and her Desire S with reception on Orange. Lots of times the reception will just die completely for a while before coming back and several instances of going straight to voicemail even though phone doesn't ring.
I've done some testing and noticed that if we change them to GSM only, this doesn't happen and reception stays solid. Only problem is that we then obviously only get basic GPRS when mobile and now 3G and therefore have to switch back to WCDMA.
Anybody else come across this or have some solutions?
Many thanks
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what area are you in? I have had trouble with orange in Canary Wharf in the past and it was due to my phone connecting to a mast which wasn't working. So I was connected to 3G, but got no calls, sms or data.. LOL.. 3G at the moment is very unstable at orange and I think it is to do with the merge or something with T-Mobile.
Just contact orange on your area and see if there is anything they can do to sort it out

In Exeter but seem to get it most places I go. I do mean to keep trying the o2 sim from my work iPhone to test the difference.
Never had network issues with o2 and kind of regret moving to Orange but hey ho, done now
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My friend and I had same issues with our desires when they came out, both on orange and same symptoms. Like someone replied, we were connecting to a dodgy mast in our area. Switching to gsm all ok. Call orange.
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Are Orange likely to be able to do anything though?
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Sharing over the T-Mobile Network for 3G is coming very soon in the UK.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1453047&page=12
From post 279 onwards..

Phone died on trip to U.S.

Been in the U.S for the last 10 days and my DHD has only functioned for the first day of the trip (I'm from the UK). I switched it on after landing and got 4 bars with an R next to them, but have had nothing but a small x since that first day. The wifi doesn't work either. When I turn the wifi on it just says scanning and never finds any networks that I can see are available on other devices. Phone is rooted and ROM'd, so I guess if it has died on me my warranty is out the window? I don't think it is a year old yet...
Any sugestions before I drop it off a ladder and claim on the insurance??

Your warranty is fine as long as you flash a stock rom and unroot. I would try flashing a stable custom ROM and see if this fixes your problems before anything else.
I'm currently using rcmix 3d runnymede and loving it.
It's also my understanding USA runs on older networks that might not be supported on your handset. Hence why European phones differ from that of their US counterparts
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AT&T's EDGE 2G network should function on your DHD, as should T-Mobile US's. Wifi should also work as we use channels 1-11 on this side of the pond, compared to Europe's 1-13. Try flashing another ROM after a nandroid backup and see what happens. Also, you could get a US prepaid SIM and see if that works.
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Back in UK and working fine again (posting this from phone). Need to check wifi when I get home from the airport still. Weird!
Thanks for the replies all.

[Q] Nexus 4 LTE in Canada - Stopped Working

Hello,
I have a Nexus 4, my carrier is Telus. I have had my phone for 3 weeks now. When I first got it, I used the *#*#4636#*#* trick to get LTE on my phone. It worked great! According to speed test I was getting 27mbps download, whereas on HSPA+ i got 7mbps.
In the last two days, for some reason my phone will not work on the LTE network. I get full bars but they are grey. Also, when the connection used to work, there would be flashing up and down arrows on the signal bars. Now, there is only a flashing up arrow (no down arrow).
I called telus tech support and had them reset the connection to my phone, I also bought a new micro sim card, neither worked.
I do not require LTE by any means, but it is disappointing that I cannot figure this out. Has anyone had a similar problem? I spent the last few days checking other posts and there doesn't seem to be anything similar posted. If there is, I apologize, I am a noob, and I watched the noob video.
Take care
N

swift101 said:
Hello,
I have a Nexus 4, my carrier is Telus. I have had my phone for 3 weeks now. When I first got it, I used the *#*#4636#*#* trick to get LTE on my phone. It worked great! According to speed test I was getting 27mbps download, whereas on HSPA+ i got 7mbps.
In the last two days, for some reason my phone will not work on the LTE network. I get full bars but they are grey. Also, when the connection used to work, there would be flashing up and down arrows on the signal bars. Now, there is only a flashing up arrow (no down arrow).
I called telus tech support and had them reset the connection to my phone, I also bought a new micro sim card, neither worked.
I do not require LTE by any means, but it is disappointing that I cannot figure this out. Has anyone had a similar problem? I spent the last few days checking other posts and there doesn't seem to be anything similar posted. If there is, I apologize, I am a noob, and I watched the noob video.
Take care
N
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Hey there. Fell Canadian (and TELUS customer) here. I live in British Columbia, and I just checked my LTE and it seems to be working. Are you using a custom ROM? What Baseband version do you have? I'm on M9615A 2.0.1700.33. Hope this helps.

Sobai said:
Hey there. Fell Canadian (and TELUS customer) here. I live in British Columbia, and I just checked my LTE and it seems to be working. Are you using a custom ROM? What Baseband version do you have? I'm on M9615A 2.0.1700.33. Hope this helps.
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Hi,
Thanks for the reply. I am not using a custom rom and we have the same baseband version

That's strange. What part of Canada are you in?
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Sobai said:
That's strange. What part of Canada are you in?
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I am in Toronto. I told google that my device makes a buzzing noise (which it does) and they are sending me a replacement. Hopefully the new phone won't have the same connectivity issues.

Did you try changing your APN settings? I know for Rogers customers, there is a specific/different APN to use when you want to use their LTE network on your Nexus 4.

does it work without LTE? if you go back into the settings and change it back to the default, does it work on HSPA+ or 3g?

My LTE works, and is really really fast. download is about 90mbits/s and upload is about 75. I am in Barrie Ontario, on Koodo.
However, the speedtest app will not work, no matter what I do. So I have to use some other crappy app. Anyone else?

Any aussies on XT905 and Optus 4G?

Any Aussies here with a Telstra XT905 but on Optus and with 4G active?
I'm finding with 4G active I get intermittent signal dropouts - it will go from even 5 bars to none then re-connect shortly. This is intermittent and random, I don't know how often its really happening unless I just happen to see it when I've got the screen on. I started noticing it as it seems to drop voice calls when it happens, normally doesn't kick in on a voice call until >5 minutes.
If I turn off 4G all is fine.
I tried freezing modem fast dormancy and modem stats service as it seemed to be triggering lots of wakelocks, but that didn't affect it.
I'm feeling dumb now signing up for another year and enabling 4G, could have kept trucking on my cheaper non 4G plan lol (and be coming out of contract around now!).
Note I'm on Optus, i have no idea if this happens if I am Telstra. The problem is too intermittent for me to pop in a temporary Telstra SIM and notice it (as I don't want my 'real' number to be offline for more than a short duration). I'm hoping it is indeed carrier related (i.e. so problem is fixed if I go back to Telstra, as opposed to hardware issue). Its intermittent enough so that its impossible to demonstrate in a store, and further I've unlocked/rooted so there goes my warranty anyway!

I'm the only one? Even if you don't have any issues w/ Optus 4G pls let me know so I can distinguish between a phone issue and a general Optus 4G compatibility issue.
3G appears rock solid, switched back to it (battery life FTW) and no issues again.

wintermute000 said:
I'm the only one? Even if you don't have any issues w/ Optus 4G pls let me know so I can distinguish between a phone issue and a general Optus 4G compatibility issue.
3G appears rock solid, switched back to it (battery life FTW) and no issues again.
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I swear not many aussie users on here...
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pjcons said:
I swear not many aussie users on here...
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Telstra marketing and exclusive really hurt this phone. Nobody knows it exists but when they see it they want one as it's got all the high end goodies just not gigantic sized
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wintermute000 said:
Telstra marketing and exclusive really hurt this phone. Nobody knows it exists but when they see it they want one as it's got all the high end goodies just not gigantic sized
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True that, all we need is a ready to run rom to really open this baby up!
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wintermute000 said:
Telstra marketing and exclusive really hurt this phone. Nobody knows it exists but when they see it they want one as it's got all the high end goodies just not gigantic sized
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Not sure if I agree. We've all purchased this "niche" phone so it has a market, but Motorola phones are generally not anywhere near as popular as say SG3 or the like.
Personally I've always used Moto phones since I had the Moto Z6, what a beast! Best sound on a phone ever (ok may of that generation!).
A lot of ppl got put off by the allegedly crappy screen and price.