I had 2 android devices before this one and this one is by far the most unstable device for custom roms. I had a motorola milestone and nexus one and i rarely get bootloops and never get broken recovery. With i9000 its atleast once a week and for no apparant reason. My battery was low so i turned off my phone and replace the battery and then BOOM broken recovery and bootloop and im stuck with this **** in school....
Hey!
I have not tested other devices yet, but if i think about what i did to my I9000 and always got it restored, and also overclocking (up to 1200 mhz) runs stable as hell. I tested AOKP ICS Milestone 6 and the X-Bean 2.0 (JellyBean). Everything stable as hell.
But i think this differs from phone to phone.
I am a happy camper with my I9000 :highfive:
quick question regarding how unstable the i9000 is.
I bought my i9000 from a friend a few weeks ago as i desperately needed an android phone after drowning my Desire S on holiday. It was in great condition for a 2 year old phone.
I am on my 5th ICS ROM and every single one of them has been lagging like crazy after i install all my apps. ie. it takes about 2 or 3 seconds for the touch to respond on the screen sometimes.
When i go back to the homescreen using Go Launcher it looks like it reloads the whole thing. It feels like the phone is constantly loading apps freshly every single time you use them. They always load eventually but takes a good few seconds. I never use Task Killers.
Is it possible the actual ROM chips are dying in the phone? Crappy quality chips to keep costs down perhaps.
It lags constantly no matter what you're trying to do. No matter what app i'm trying to load up. And this has happened on every single ROM i've tried.
Any ideas if the actual hardware is simply dying?
ps. the Desire S ran ICS custom ROMS perfectly with only the occasional lag when you were doing too much. So the hardware in the i9000 is defo capable.
My experience is that sometimes a "RESET" is needed to make the phone act like brand new.
That means, wipe everything on the phone.
Install an Gingerbread ROM (JW4 for example). Flash the right CF Root Kernel.. Wipe Again (Data/Cache/Dalvik).
Then install one of the stable ICS Roms (I had AOKP Milestone 6) and i am currently on JB (X-Bean 2.0).
Both are stable as hell, and it feels like i am on a Samsung Galaxy S3 sometimes, i never had any lag, its fast as hell after some tweaking.
I would also recommend using Devil Kernel on your phone, had the best performance/battery with those.
But again, every phone differs.
For the record, my phone is also 2 years old and is used every day (almost heavy use).
Good Luck
yes that is right it is so unstable in ics and jb ....so laggy,many fc s
Then you're probably doing it wrong. No above mentioned problems here. I'm running CM10 latest nightly (all stock) since day one. Latest nightly is super fast and responsive and it's been like that since 5 nightlies ago.
Either your phone is crap, your rom is crap or your installation is crap. I'am on my 3rd Rom and never had Bootloops, lags or any other Problems.
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You got unlucky with your phone. My friend has this issue to, and I never had.
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No way! I9000 is perfect for testing ROMS. I've tested many custom ROMS and now on CM10 latest nightly, the phone is amazing!
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No way! I9000 is perfect for testing ROMS. I've tested many custom ROMS and now on CM10 latest nightly, the phone is amazing!
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Overclocking should do the trick. I have about 90apps on my i9000 running ICS AOKP rom milestone 6. I've overclocked my phone to 1.4ghz and it runs smooth with an ocassional lag which is not bad but most of the time its smooth. Battery life is ok.
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Ive never had the problems you mention but that doesn't mean ive ever been satisfied using a Jelly Bean ROM. In fact, the one I have now has been installed for less than 24 hours and I'm umming and arring about removing it. Just the little things Im afraid.
AlwaysDroid said:
You got unlucky with your phone. My friend has this issue to, and I never had.
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I think you guys are right, my phone is just faulty. Need to find a replacement asap then.
Even installed V6 Supercharger and Maximum Overdrive and phone still lags like hell after a few hours use. Its fine after a reboot for a while but then the lag kicks in and can take up to 10 seconds for the screen to respond. Rebooting every few hours ain't much fun lol
I've been using my SGSI9000 with custom ROM's for more than a year now. It always ran smooth, I never soft bricked it nor had any boot loops while installing ROM's. I've been using several flavors of DarkyROM, then CM since version 7 I think, to 9 and now 10 (including alpha's and beta's) and I almost install the daily as it is released (almost daily ROM installs) and still the phone does great, battery is still good (more than 1 day of usage) and everything works ok (have lag from time to time, but nothing major).
You should always start by something "clean", then test if it is laggy, buggy, etc.
Either start with the latest official rom with a clean system or with something reputed, like CM9/10.
Don't forget to start from a clean rom, IE: Format user data, cache, /system, etc.
Then, if it is still unstable, you might have a defective device.
I've had this devices since about 2 years, and I have installed numerous rom and I can tell you the ones available currently are rock solid!
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Either your phone is crap, your rom is crap or your installation is crap. I'am on my 3rd Rom and never had Bootloops, lags or any other Problems.
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Also, to one of the guys who was complaining, get go launcher off your phone for a start, it uses a huge amount of ram compared to other launchers. I'm running JB on my phone and its super slick and stable with tons of apps installed.
Maybe its something you're doing wrong, or a poor choice of kernel, or maybe you've not set it up well, because I have seen none of the issues that you speak of.
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Like i said i'm on my 6th or so ROM some ICS, some JB and even ran the stock GB ROM and they are all FUBAR after a few hours use. Currently its running RemICS UX. And as i said before its slick as hell for 2 hours then grinds to a halt.
I'm not a n00b, i've been on XDA since Nov 2010 and have had 2 HTC devices which ran all ROMS solidly so i know how to install a ROM with all the proper wiping etc.
I just wanted to confirm that having a Samsung device is a bit of a lottery, u might get a good one or a duff one. I can accept that the one i got is duff. Not a problem, just need to seek out my next phone.
kennyhkw said:
I just wanted to confirm that having a Samsung device is a bit of a lottery, u might get a good one or a duff one. I can accept that the one i got is duff. Not a problem, just need to seek out my next phone.
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I wouldn't generalize to all Samsung devices, it is fact that there were 2 types of I9000 hardware produced. To quote:
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Our beloved Galaxy S has 2 storage chips:
512MB Samsung OneNAND and 16GB Samsung moviNAND (or SanDisk iNAND for newer batches)
OneNAND is a SLC NAND which writes much faster more suitable for contaning app data so your apps runs faster as it can write faster.
moviNAND is a MLC eMMC NAND which writes slower, more suitable for app and personal data storage.
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So there is 512MB fast storage and 16GB of other storage. The 16GB has two versions, slow moviNAND on the early batches and faster iNAND on the later ones. The problem is that with newer ROMs that take more space it is a juggle what to put on the fast storage and what to put on the slower storage. Inevitably something has to go on the 16GB chip, which will be moviNAND or iNAND depending on how new your hardware is. If it is moviNAND, like my unit that I bought the week it launched here over 2 years ago, there is going to be worse lag depending on how the developer has arranged things. (That post goes into detail about how that particular ROM, Helly Bean which I run, uses the flash chips. CM10 has switched to this as well.
This quote says how you can tell which chip your unit has:
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So, Is this ROM right for me?
If you have the fast iNand then, yes, because you'll get more data storage space with no loss of speed If you have the MoviNand then maybe yes, maybe no. My advice is "Try both".
To see which Nand you have look at the following file in a text viewer:
/sys/devices/platform/s3c-sdhci.0/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
If the content starts with "S" then you have iNand. If it starts with "M" then you have MoviNand.
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In summary it's not some vague Samsung thing, it's a specific performance issue with the early hardware versions of the I9000 that they improved in later versions. Some ICS/Jelly Bean ROMs do a better job of managing this, the theory is that CM10 and Helly Bean are as good as it gets, but it is still not going to be perfect. I also think there are issues with RAM management on pretty much all ICS/JB ROMs for this phone (leaks) but that's another matter entirely.
OK, the only unstable thing I find about Jelly Bean (after a few days use) is flashing multiple .zips before a restart. On GB, I could flash, 2, 3, 4, 10, zip files via recovery and it would reboot fine. I find that Jelly Bean runs the optimizer then stops at 'Starting apps', I'd only flashed about 4 zip files. Maybe I didn't leave it long enough but after a few hard resets and what not JB came back but touchwiz was ****ed. It kept artefact'ing lol. However, when I flashed the 4 zips individually separated by restarts it was fine.
no problems here
hey,
well i have been flashing different roms, kernels, patches... for more than a year and never had issues on my galaxy s
could be something u're doing wrong, like no proper wiping maybe or partition problems...
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hello there
got my note 2 weeks ago and i noticed a weird slowness
not in games but in everyday use its really annoying
the it cant be hardware problem right?
i mean..how can it be that such strong hardware cant hold
this software?
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hello there
got my note 2 weeks ago and i noticed a weird slowness
not in games but in everyday use its really annoying
the it cant be hardware problem right?
i mean..how can it be that such strong hardware cant hold
this software?
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Really strange 'cuz Note, even with stocks, is powerfull in terms of GPU and HW. Are you talking about its reactivity? Flashing other kernels and other ROMS you'd see the fastest device you can find right know, but I repeat, even with stocks I remember it was fast so it's too strange :banghead:
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My one works great. It might be your phone... try returning?
My acted the same. On stock rom it was choppy and laggy.
Custom fw solved the issue.
Same here...
Quite laggy and slow on stock firmware once I filled it up with apps.
Custom solved that though. I used Rocket v22, (full wipe when went to that final version along with Abyss 4.0). I got some strange results though, v22 was laggy for me and Abyss 4.2 got me battery drain. Also, Abyss 4.0 sometimes had the tendency to overheat. AGAIN, this is opposed to what most users have reported, so...might just be my phone, the way I use it...I don't know.
I finally found bliss in DarkyRom, with Franco Kernel. Smooth gaming, no lag (yet). Also, I've found ICS Roms to be really really smooth, although I had to go back to GB due to some features missing in these betas.
Thanks guys
Well im wait'n to the ics update..
Does anyone have a clue when its gonna released ?
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My only lag was in the Contacts,it usually took a long time to open,but a third party application solved it.
As for the ICS its better you check the sticky thread,the Moderater who is a bit temprimental guy could easily delete this thread as soon as he notices that word mentioned any other place than there.
However my personal opinion is that it wont come before the end of June.
Noticed this also. I am coming from an Epic 4G Touch and even completely stock that device was amazingly fast with everything. My Gnote was unbearably slow on the stock KK2 firmware and is a lot faster/smoother on LC1 with Franco Kernel 9. However still not as responsive/smooth as the Epic 4G Touch was for whatever reason.
I noticed that my Note is no as spritely as my old iPhone 4S.. I found after turning on it was better not to rush, pause for a split second and then everything is ok.
Thought so..
Im using startup auditor and now its much faster then before.
Hope that the update in june will fix the problems.. im kinda missing the 4s in teaems of camera quality but the overall performance are great.
too bad that the screen is Pentile based and not Plus..
Hope that the SGS3 will come out soon..
Thanks guys!
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Okay, so I was on official ICS, several actually. I kept hoping one would prove not to have the Super Brick bug. It seems nobody knows, still.
After working myself into a panic worried I would do something normal and suddenly have a brick on my hands, I flashed back to Gingerbread 2.3.6, Europe Open version (XXLA4). I decided to stick with Touchwiz launcher
After messing around with ICS and several different launchers I guess I had forgotten how smooth the stock is.
Apps are now opening and closing fast, the scrolling in the launcher is super smooth and overall, the phone is working very well. It's like a new machine!
It could help that now that I'm on a safe kernel, I've wiped data and basically started new, but I'm very impressed.
I still wish ICS would come out from Samsung with an announced fixed version. I miss the resizing of widgets and the ICS Voice to text engine. It really is much better.
I would rather feel safe in operating the phone, however, and give up those small ICS features I'm missing.
Has anybody else done the same? What do you think?
Just use Franco kernel or Speedmod kernel for your stock ICS rom and you'll have a "safe" kernel.
Or flash CM9 rom.
Since you are on GB, you can flash a CM9 rom and be perfectly fine easily.
I have to agree alittle with you , always when i reflash to a stock rooted gb, i always feel WOW its so smooth, but thats until i start installing all my apps i use.
I must say that batterylife is better for me on ICS, dunno why.
BTW, is there any significant speed difference between stock ICS (LPY for instance) and CM9? I'm on LPY and Franco r5 and even when overclocking to 1.6 GHz I haven't noticed any speed change.
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BTW, is there any significant speed difference between stock ICS (LPY for instance) and CM9? I'm on LPY and Franco r5 and even when overclocking to 1.6 GHz I haven't noticed any speed change.
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I've not tried CM9.
Currently its in nightlies but even still from past experiences with stock rom vs cm7 etc i got noticable stability and speed increases. different phones and roms though but generally the idea still applies.
Can't understand all the drama about the ICS update. I just installed mine OTA as instructed, installed Apex Launcher and I couldn't be happier. Everything seems a little smoother too.
Stock email widget works a treat (7x7 grid and above) and with the Smooth Calender widget I am in home screen heaven. Leaves TW on both Gingerbread and ICS.
Just gone from a great phone to a fantastic phone for my needs
I on the other hand still stick with GB right know.
I'm planning to flash CM9 this weekend.
Because I'm getting bored with GB, everyone seems already tried ICS.
I was waiting official save kernel from Samsung, but I just cannot wait anymore to try the ICS.
I will try CM9 mod first I guess, although Franco and CF kernel already release their 'safe' kernel but I still a bit worried since we're not yet sure if there's other reason of the hardbrick
Also back on GB stock with root
I have to agree with this that stock GB is alot more stable than ICS and smoother aswell.
I have tried nearly all the stock ICS releases and all the custom roms based on stock ICS that are in the development forum. Also tried with different kernel combinations and both full wipe / no wipe. Initially most of it seems great then you start using a few apps and it all goes downhill from there.
So GB ftw (well atleast till I get that flashing craving again)
Hi,
Using stock ICS update, had a bricked device after my inability to read, read, read, read & read more, lucky enough to find a solution (not able to disclose, not a technical solution - retail) I use Apex pro launcher & all runs like a dream.
Run chainfires got brickbug? & not happy x19. Rooting may have to wait, confidence bit dented (rooted & flashed my last HTC units & my SG2)
Will read, read & read for a while longer yet.
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I also don't understand the complaints for official ICS, I have updated mine and everything is running smooth...there seems to be a problem for people who did not factory reset before upgrading?
i had a lot of restarts - over and over again
i unplugged my battery and it kept happening
since upgrading to ICS - its quite a lot better but still sometimes i get the restarting issue - battery life on ICS is ok - maybe a bit worse than GB
ilegales said:
i had a lot of restarts - over and over again
i unplugged my battery and it kept happening
since upgrading to ICS - its quite a lot better but still sometimes i get the restarting issue - battery life on ICS is ok - maybe a bit worse than GB
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For the restart thing, there maybe an apk which is incompatible? I had this problem after installing several apks from the market when I was on GB once and did a factory reset to solve it.
Final5k said:
I also don't understand the complaints for official ICS, I have updated mine and everything is running smooth...there seems to be a problem for people who did not factory reset before upgrading?
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I wasn't complaining about ICS. In fact, I really liked it. Especially the additional widgets, and the voice search improvements.
I was just paranoid that something I did in everybody function would cause the super brick bug. While people seem to thinkI they know what triggers it and what doesn't, we just don't know for sure.
So for me, I'm staying on GB until Samsung admits and fixes the emmc bug.
Back to GB for me too.
I agree with the OP, I have gone back to GB.
For me the advantages of ICS do not outweigh the stabilty of GB.
ICS:
I lost 40-50% battery life but I gained Chrome ( a little bit buggy but good nonetheless). I also ran the risk with the EMMC bug.
GB : I get my battery life back again, have to use the standard browser but at least I can't brick my phone.
I use the note quite heavily for the web, notes, email and following tweets. It has become an excellent companion and I really don't want to lose it just for the sake of running the latest OS.
I have enough patience to wait until an "official" patch comes out that can repair the bug. After such times I will go back to trying the various ROMs on the site.
Me too recently on ICS Dxlp9 now back to more safer ROM stock GB 2.3.6 unrooted! loving it! gonna miss the resizble widgets and those new features but its worth to wait LOVE MY NOTE
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I'm back to stock UK XEU LA4 rom and all the better for it. The stability of GB definately outweighs the few advantages (that I've experienced anyway) with ICS.
My main issues with stock UK XEU ICS where
1/ Bluetooth connectivity problems with my car Nissan Connect system
2/ Adobe Flash player was unstable & some websites I frequent didn't work properly at all
3/ Screen responsiveness reduced
4/ Battery life was worse
heading back to gb too. Cant find any reason for using ics. and tw is so ugly. Waiting for the official Miui
I tried LPY and didnt like it - battery life awful and unpredictable then reverted back to GB - I think I will keep it this way until a much better ICS is available maybe CM9?
Likewise I've gone back from XXLQ2 to XXLA6. There wasn't enough good new stuff in the Touchwiz version of ICS to outweigh the battery drain and keyboard problems. And I did do a full wipe before flashing.
mingonn said:
Can't understand all the drama about the ICS update. I just installed mine OTA as instructed, installed Apex Launcher and I couldn't be happier. Everything seems a little smoother too.
Stock email widget works a treat (7x7 grid and above) and with the Smooth Calender widget I am in home screen heaven. Leaves TW on both Gingerbread and ICS.
Just gone from a great phone to a fantastic phone for my needs
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Main issues people have are:
1) TWizzed ICS is a horrible disappointment compared to an actual ICS experience. Samsung basically reverted half of ICS to a legacy Gingerbread UI.
2) Samsung did a ****-poor job of software quality control with their ICS releases. It's utterly stupid that the launcher force closes if you debloat unrelated apps - but that has been the case since the first I9100 ICS release. (There's a reason most custom firmwares use Apex instead of TWLauncher.)
3) Last but not least - Samsung has had a latent defect in the eMMC chips shipped in nearly all of their Exynos-based handsets up till now, and the kernel developers for the SPH-D710, SGH-I777, SHW-M250S/K/L, and GT-N7000 were stupid enough to enable the trigger condition for a known and documented MMC chip bug. The I9100 kernel development team was smart enough to remove MMC_CAP_ERASE from the MSHCI driver or not enable it in the first place.
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I also don't understand the complaints for official ICS, I have updated mine and everything is running smooth...there seems to be a problem for people who did not factory reset before upgrading?
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In general - if you perform a wipe data/factory reset on any stock ICS kernel, you run a significant chance of permanently trashing your phone's internal storage.
It's a MAJOR bug that Samsung should NEVER have allowed to go out the door.
I have noticed that my phone has become quite slow. My Nexus S is a contract phone and I think I have had it for almost 2 years. When i first got it - it felt snappy. Around that time, I did things like install kernals, custom roms, bootloader unlock etc. Then I went back to the stock rom.
I dont mind wiping the memory etc. As long as the important stuff is backed up like messages and contacts - everything else can go. I can reinstall when needed. So my question is - what do I have to do to regain the performance. Should I do a full reinstall? or install a custom ROM? or should I get a new phone (my contract ends this month)
Thanks
well, if you get the possibility, I would definitely go for an different phone. I don't know your budget, but I would go for a quad(/dual)-core phone, as mobile software seems to become heavier on a faster pace than before. I advise you this, because else your next phone will feel like your nexus s after two years, but than in one year. Of course this is just a prediction, so do whatever you wish to do
I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.
Androyed said:
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
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I also recommend this combination if you just want preformance. :good:
However, in my opinion, ROM performance is device dependent. What's fast for another may/may not be fast on your device. So be sure to try them all when you got time
ej8989 said:
I also recommend this combination if you just want preformance. :good:
However, in my opinion, ROM performance is device dependent. What's fast for another may/may not be fast on your device. So be sure to try them all when you got time
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Sure its device dependant, that is why I asked in this forum. Surely all the nexus s's are the same?
viperfx07 said:
Sure its device dependant, that is why I asked in this forum. Surely all the nexus s's are the same?
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Well yeah, but the fact that person A gets 4.5 hours on screen time with the same ROM/kernel and exact same settings won't mean you will also get 4.5 hours on screen time. The same goes for smoothness.
A question like "what's the fastest ROM/kernel combination" is very difficult to answer. But I think you can't go wrong with the rasbeanjelly/marmite combination. I suggest you make a NAND backup and try the compilation I posted to see for yourself.
I've been troubled by this issue of gradual performance degradation in android custom Rom/kernels ever since I came to android from a non-smart phone. I've asked about it before, but nobody really had a good answer for exactly why it was happening. It is likely related to something in custom kernels though, that's my gut feeling. The more reboots and freezes I'd get, the worse the system would run. Like you said, starting over from scratch always helps, but it really sucks having to do this regularly. My search for long term stability has brought me to cm 10.0 stable. I use the stock kernel, and don't mess around to much with advanced or performance settings. You won't get nearly the performance or battery life of other configs, but I've found the system runs just as smooth on day 60 as day 1. I actually have come back from a galaxy nexus to my ns4g cause of how useable the phone is, and how much I like the smaller size. So I disagree with the earlier poster who said to look for a new phone. I think you can definitely use this phone till the next android is version comes out, provided you don't use a lot of resource intensive apps.
Good luck in your search.
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Its not that money is an issue, but the problem is that if I do get a new contract I will be stuck in that for atleast 2 years with any new smartphone. The thing is that the nexus S is perfectly fine for my mobile needs. I just wish it could be a little snappier, as one of you have said already when getting a new phone its much better to get one that can be with you for 2 or more years - therefore it makes sense to get a good one. I will most likely wait for the new phone from samsung that uses the ARM big.LITTLE chip.
I just checked my phone and it seems I must have relock'd it when putting the stockrom on. I have not done this custom rom stuff in a while, not sure if the scene has changed much. Is the rooting process using adb recommended for mac's?
If you have many apps installed, it can be a quick performace boost if you uninstall all the apps you don't use or don't need. Keep the apps you use regularly, delete those you don't remember when was the last time you used them. I had some games and utilities which I froze in Titanium Backup (same as uninstalling except you don't lose any data and it can be reverted with one tap), since then my phone feels as new.
Androyed said:
I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.
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New build with latest rasbean source & latest marmite kernel 7.3CM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36674772
On the road with my Nexus S...
I think the rasbeanjellybuild MDO on 4.1.2 is faster. 4.2 was very laggy on my device. There are not so many functions in this rom. But that's my opinion. Kernel: marmite of course and the tweaks from brainmaster are for smoothness very well too.
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viperfx07 said:
I have noticed that my phone has become quite slow. My Nexus S is a contract phone and I think I have had it for almost 2 years. When i first got it - it felt snappy. Around that time, I did things like install kernals, custom roms, bootloader unlock etc. Then I went back to the stock rom.
I dont mind wiping the memory etc. As long as the important stuff is backed up like messages and contacts - everything else can go. I can reinstall when needed. So my question is - what do I have to do to regain the performance. Should I do a full reinstall? or install a custom ROM? or should I get a new phone (my contract ends this month)
Thanks
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I was in a similar position, except for the contract. I wiped everything, installed CM10 stable and uninstalled a couple dozen apps I was not using. Performance is ok again. Some battery issues, but I hope that with a new battery I can have the phone for some more time.
Hey,
I'm running Jellyshot with marmite 7.2.1 at 1.3GHz OC.
For me it's the perfect Rom / Kernel combo. The setup is pretty stable, incredibly fast and I got around 2-3 hours battery time, which is about as much as twice as stock.
I personally wait for the next Nexus device, because even today my nexus S with this setup can compare to 80 % of the smartphones in my vicinity.
Jellyshot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023699
Marmite Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719775
Androyed said:
I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.
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i dont know if i really tried it all but i think i lost count on flashing roms ...and i always go back to this awesome combo,... i can safely say its the best i ever had too...:fingers-crossed:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will try them out. Since you guys have flashed so many, does it not get tiresome to wipe and reinstall everything? Is there an easier way?
What is your process for flashing a rom/kernal nowadays?
viperfx07 said:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will try them out. Since you guys have flashed so many, does it not get tiresome to wipe and reinstall everything? Is there an easier way?
What is your process for flashing a rom/kernal nowadays?
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I'm not really attached to my apps and data. The only thing I hate is asking everyone for their Wi-Fi passwords again. But I could easily back them up. I just don't because I'm lazy. If you want, you can back up pretty much anything with Titanium Backup.
My process? I first download everything I'm going to flash, throw it all in some folder on my sd card (most of the time I just keep it in the download folder). Then I don't make a NAND backup. That's right. #YOLO. No, just kidding. Like I said, not really attached to any setup at all. If I flash a new ROM, that means I don't care about my previous setup at all. But a NAND backup doesn't really take that long, and it's really easy to restore, so I would just do it if I were you.
I always restart after flashing. If I have to flash 5 things, I restart 5 times. Don't know if this helps, but someone taught me this once, and I've been doing it ever since. After I've flashed everything, I connect to Wi-Fi, download one or two apps I frequently use (whatsapp, my favourite browser), and then that's it. All other apps I download only when I need them.
i downgraded from 4.2.1 to apex 4.0.4
Now i have more then 170 mb ram free with most of my apps open!!!
with matr1x kernel cfs it seems to be great at gaming
I'm a little surprised to see so many NS users complaining about poor performance on 4.2.1. A lot of people seem to have become convinced that a single core cpu isn't enough to handle Android smoothly anymore, but I think they're just yearning for unachievable WP levels of UI sheen or they're flashing the wrong zips.
bed's Marmite kernel has been so well-optimized since its 7.1.6 incarnation that even a dirty-flashed ROM laden with 200+ apps feels usable. Having said that, it really does help to do things as cleanly as possible: full wipe, manual format of system and data, wipe cache and dalvik, reboot recovery; flash your ROM, flash gapps, and flash your chosen kernel once only (resist experimenting with different versions), then fix permissions.
For about the past week and a half I've been using tchaari's 4.2.1 build of Slimbean + Marmite 7.1.7, without an overclock, and it's remained consistently smooth and responsive well beyond 100 hours of uptime.
One thing which has in the past slowed my phone to a crawl is the SD card. There are some flaky versions of ClockworkMod which will leave corrupt blocks on the external storage after creating a NANDroid backup - Media Scanner hates this and so do the apps living on your SD. I've experienced this a couple of times and reformatting the SD is the only way to restore performance. Not sure if people are still suffering from this without realising the cause, but I now refrain from making NANDroids and just rely on Titanium Backup and everything seems to run smoothly.
Anyway, install Slimbean, flash Marmite 7.1.7 (or try out 7.3), and don't for one instant consider purchasing a fragile Nexus 4 or any other oversized power hungry droid.
my nexus s felt laggy since updated to ICS, then jellybean came along and made it even worse . At last I just put CM7 in and the phone is smooth as butter again
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superweird said:
my nexus s felt laggy since updated to ICS, then jellybean came along and made it even worse . At last I just put CM7 in and the phone is smooth as butter again
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Is your internet browser as smooth as in jb too?
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I am so tired of this tablet! I want to love it, I really do, I'm an old time android user and I love nexus devices, but this one is simply fail. I tried most of the ROMs out there and they all end up with ~300mb ram left at some point, become very choppy and eventually freeze until reboot.
I hate apple products, but I might just grab the ipad 4 and forget about android tablets.
CleanRom is the best rom in terms of performace for me, but is the fastest to run into the memory leak. Aokp holds on the most, but no more then a full day of usage. I cant just reset the tablet every few hours, its ridiculous.
Try out SlimRom. I saw in the changelog of AOKP back when that one of the memory leak fixes that was brought into the ROM was a pull from the slim ROM's.
I really think it depends on what you are doing for how fast you run out of memory. I used to have the problem on really old 4.2.1 based ROMs where the tablet would only last me maybe a day and a half before it would reboot itself from memory problems or I would have to reboot it as it got really slow. Since moving to newer ROMs with one or two memory leak fixes I have never had to my tablet reboot on me yet. I can have 15+ days of uptime without any issues.
EniGmA1987 said:
Try out SlimRom. I saw in the changelog of AOKP back when that one of the memory leak fixes that was brought into the ROM was a pull from the slim ROM's.
I really think it depends on what you are doing for how fast you run out of memory. I used to have the problem on really old 4.2.1 based ROMs where the tablet would only last me maybe a day and a half before it would reboot itself from memory problems or I would have to reboot it as it got really slow. Since moving to newer ROMs with one or two memory leak fixes I have never had to my tablet reboot on me yet. I can have 15+ days of uptime without any issues.
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What rom are you currently using?
Currently on AOKP PUB, build 3-26-13, But I have only been on it for 4 or 5 days. No reboots in that time. Before that I was on Slim ROM for a long time.
And as far as I remember the memory leak is due to surface flinger and nothing to do with nexus 10... Anyone correct me if I'm wrong on that
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Can't say I've had any memory leaks with rascarlo's Rasbeanjelly ROM, or with Team EOS's EOS4 ROM, or even with CyanogenMod 10.1 (last used M2).
Don't think I can actually recall any memory leak issues. Maybe it's app-specific? Or maybe I just reboot my device often enough to not notice?
I was having the memory leak probably with aokp pub until the last 2 builds and it's been great since
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And as far as I remember the memory leak is due to surface flinger and nothing to do with nexus 10... Anyone correct me if I'm wrong on that
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I don't know what is surface flinger but the memory leak problem is what causes the reboots on this device, so if your tablet ever freezed, followed by a reboot, then you had a memory leak = all your processes were restarting because of low memory available, to the point where CPU was stressed to much and caused the tablet to freeze. I am currently on team eos and it seems to be stable so far, hope it stays that way.
Surface flinger is the process in the newer versions of Android that I think is part of project butter. It helps UI smoothness, and in Jelly Bean it has had memory leak problems since it was first used.
Surface flinger is the android display manager. It had a memory leak issue that has been fixed probably within the last month if I remember correctly. Any more recent ROM should not have this issue. If it is happening for you on every ROM it may be app specific. As of right now I know the recent builds of aokp have this fixed. I am running euroskanks cm nightlies and don't have any issues.
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As a long time Android user and general nerd, I often hear from some of my friends about new and cool custom ROMs. It ranges from "amazing customization" to "blazing speed" and even "far better than anything stock in general".
So this weekend I decided that since my warranty is no longer valid anyway, and Samsung won't be updating the Galaxy S2 GT-i9100 anymore, I can go ahead and try something new and shiny, which could help me with my job.
And thus began my research and tests on Android custom ROMs...and oh boy, that was one hell of an experience.
Everything I heard from people about nearly everything was shattered right then and there.
As a reasonable person, I decided to try some of the more popular ROMs, trying to stick as much as possible to stable builds since everyday use is a big deal for me. So now I present to you, my experience with what I was told are the top-dogs of the custom ROM world and my impressions of each:
Omni 4.4.2
This one actually surprised me in terms of it's video driver. As some might know, a bunch of Gameloft published games always show washed out colors on the Galaxy S2, but when used, this ROM showed the correct colors...quite shocking! ...however, it turned out to be highly unstable with apps crashing left and right all the time and often for no real reason. This ROM is not really advertised as "stable" so I guess that was understandable, so I decided to move on.
MIUI v5
This ROM was just impressive. I absolutely love the UI (and I didn't even try the customization stuff, yet I say that!). It seemed really stable and I almost decided to stick with it...until I found out that 3 apps in particular I very much rely on don't work properly or at all (overlay issues it seems). This got me really disappointed but I figured functionality is more important than looks so once again, I decided to move on.
CyanogenMod 10.3.1
This might be the biggest disappointment for all the wrong reasons. The buildup and hype I got from people about it created in my head "the ultimate ROM"...but after installing it and doing some tests...I have to say, the performance difference was just barely noticeable and i all honesty, not worth the trade for the bugs it also brings (although if it had the video driver from Omni I would've changed my mind). I really wanted to do a fair judgement since I know this is the top-dog of ROMs (or at least in popularity) so I even ran tests on it...and in games, the framerate difference between stock and CM10.3 was just 2-5fps.
Resurrection Remix 4.0.7
This was...let me just say it out loud - the installation for this ROM should be a standard - just incorporate some stuff and have people chose what to get or don't get. Having stock stuff and then 10 additional flashable ZIPs while not really a big issue is just a time-waster for a lot of people in my eyes (although it would've been nice to know more about the modems when it asks you for a choice). Anyway, this ROM's keyboard just refused to work so I got rid of it after 2 flashes.
ReVolt JB 4.5
...keyboard didn't work on this one again, and after another 2 flash attempts, I scrapped it aswell.
At this point I pretty much just gave up and went back to the Samsung stock ROM for my region and was left with an empty feeling that custom ROMs all seem to have at least one or more huge flaws.
All the buildup and "legends" (lacking a better term) weren't even close to what I experienced (except the MIUI...well, UI) and it got me thinking...are custom ROMs meant for everyday users or they were always aimed at people willing to experiment? Personally, I decided that my journey through the custom ROM world has ended here at least for the time being (maybe someday I'll go back to MIUI but who knows), but I wanted to ask, does anyone feel the same way I do? That custom ROMs, while a really cool thing to be able to have is getting overhyped to the point where unless you really know what you're getting into will lead to just disappointment?
I would really like to hear other people's views on this, especially if you're not an expert user.
NeatROM rulez, give it a try.
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I'm using slimbean 2.2. It's seems better them any other ROM.
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Resurrection Remix 4.0.7 worked fine for me. the only problem is the System UI that usually crashes when you messed up on something and it really need some reboot for that. ☺
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Well, with custom roms comes both bugs and extended capacities.
First of all, having a rooted phone gives a lot of new possibilities.
Besides, custom roms give new content, like the latest android updates, which the constructors take time to port to their devices.
At last but not least, custom ROMs often let you.. customize as much as thou wish
I'm personally using Cyanfox (android 4.4), and I'm pretty happy about it
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You schould try another 4.4.2 custom roms for egz pound rom(the best for me) or beanstalk which is good too
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warpgamer said:
Well, with custom roms comes both bugs and extended capacities.
First of all, having a rooted phone gives a lot of new possibilities.
Besides, custom roms give new content, like the latest android updates, which the constructors take time to port to their devices.
At last but not least, custom ROMs often let you.. customize as much as thou wish
I'm personally using Cyanfox (android 4.4), and I'm pretty happy about it
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I actually just root my stock ROM with the SuperSU flashable ZIP-thingie...though I only need it for a firewall ^-^;;
But to me one of the biggest deal-breakers is how all the ROMs I did like don't support MHL (if only MIUI was capable of that )
Since the warranty is gone i'm trying a bunch of roms to sede what nave to offer. So far i've only tried the omnirom and it's pretty good to me, except some minor bugs.
In my opinion you've to choose a stabile ROM if you don't want any problems
im using cm10.1 stable linaro build most nearly perfect rom for me.
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iobling said:
Since the warranty is gone i'm trying a bunch of roms to sede what nave to offer. So far i've only tried the omnirom and it's pretty good to me, except some minor bugs.
In my opinion you've to choose a stabile ROM if you don't want any problems
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im using cm10.1 stable linaro build most nearly perfect rom for me.
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That's kind'a the thing, CM 10.3.1 is the one shown as stable and it seems to be...but it's missing features that the stock ROMs offer, and the performance difference is pretty much not noticeable enough to justify it for me.
All the ROMs except Omni were shown as "stable" but as i mentioned in my first post, all seem to have at least 1 big issue.
As a side question...I heard the newest version of MIUI actually had MHL/TV-out support on the S2...anyone know if that's true?
Dorimanx anybody ... ?
I only use my phone for basic stuff.So I just use a stock rom with a custom kernel.That way, everything works and I dont have to read 2000 posts to see what problems to expect.
Stock CM kernel isn't all that great IMO , Try coupling Dorimanx's kernel with CM or any other ROM... Adds a lot of power features with stability. stock Sammy Roms feel very caged and unoptimized thus the need for custom builds. Give it time... It grows on you eventually.
Just my 2cents
theunderling said:
I only use my phone for basic stuff.So I just use a stock rom with a custom kernel.That way, everything works and I dont have to read 2000 posts to see what problems to expect.
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After 2 years of trying to find a custom ROM that doesn't have one show-topping bug, I feel bad for not just staying with a nicely optimized stock ROM with a tweaked kernel that is 100% dependable when I need it.
So, +1 :good:
Well, I only recently got the S2. Before my S2, I've owned an HTC One V. The stock ROM on that thing was just a mess. It came with 4.0.4 ICS and... you guessed it... no update to JB. So I installed a custom ROM on that one... it improved nearly everything.
So, from my experiences with that device, I thought I could flash the S2 and get the same experience. And... well, not really. I have tried so many ROMs...
The AOSP based ROMs either drain battery like hell or have any other bug which is so impacting that I can't deal with it. For example, the Audio 50% bug. Just one word: Annoying.
SO, I could stay with a Samsung stock ROM, but well, that won't be an option for me. Why not? Simple, on the stock rom, using my phone for an hour, literally ONE HOUR, the thing is completely dead. Battery empty. The only stock rom which gives me two and half an hour of screen on time is the 2.3.3 GB stock. And well, that's a bit old nowadays.
The by far best combination for power, speed, stability and battery life for me is CM10.1 stable with the DorimanX 9.14 kernel. I've tried it once and I find myself going back to it pretty much everytime I flashed any ROM I do not like.
Currently I'm on CM11 unofficial nightly, tomorrow I will see for how long my battery can last. I know, my battery is probably broken, but it's not thicker than normal or something like that. It just drains and I have no idea why.
DerGraf1997 said:
Well, I only recently got the S2. Before my S2, I've owned an HTC One V. The stock ROM on that thing was just a mess. It came with 4.0.4 ICS and... you guessed it... no update to JB. So I installed a custom ROM on that one... it improved nearly everything.
So, from my experiences with that device, I thought I could flash the S2 and get the same experience. And... well, not really. I have tried so many ROMs...
The AOSP based ROMs either drain battery like hell or have any other bug which is so impacting that I can't deal with it. For example, the Audio 50% bug. Just one word: Annoying.
SO, I could stay with a Samsung stock ROM, but well, that won't be an option for me. Why not? Simple, on the stock rom, using my phone for an hour, literally ONE HOUR, the thing is completely dead. Battery empty. The only stock rom which gives me two and half an hour of screen on time is the 2.3.3 GB stock. And well, that's a bit old nowadays.
The by far best combination for power, speed, stability and battery life for me is CM10.1 stable with the DorimanX 9.14 kernel. I've tried it once and I find myself going back to it pretty much everytime I flashed any ROM I do not like.
Currently I'm on CM11 unofficial nightly, tomorrow I will see for how long my battery can last. I know, my battery is probably broken, but it's not thicker than normal or something like that. It just drains and I have no idea why.
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I get up to 14 days with my battery if it's just on Standby [no actual use] and up to a full day if I play some games on it with the Stock ROM.
Also I wanted to mention that I tried DorimanX 8.43 earlier today and my god, my phone became unstable as hell [still on a stock ROM]...odd.
But yeah, you might want to get a new battery if you get less than 16 hours battery life
Hello. I want share my experience. I moved from stock because i want try 4.2 new features, specially widget on lockscreen.
I first tryied cm 10.2 but battery drained quickly and gaming was so sloooow.I tryied then cm10.2 linaro but experienced 4-5 reboot a day. Now I'm back on cm10.2 hoping that the guy working on exynos drivers will bring good news. In the meanwhile I will try gustavo or apolo kernel that seems the most stable kernels
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Waiting S4 UI port into i9100G ...
I have found only 2-3 Roms that can be used
I can say that i have installed allmost all posible ROMs. For me every rom whit verson of android above 4.1.2 just didn't work ( i have SD CARD problems in most of the ROM's in other i have encored camera problems or bootloops ) The only ROM working realy good is snapdragon and s4fors2 .
IF ANY ONE KHNOWS HOW TO SOLVE MY SD-CARD PROBLEMS ON ANY ROM WITH ANDROID VERSION ABOVE 4.1.2 PM me PLS
CyanFox Rom is the most stable and worked for me as well. Give it a try!!
For Battery Backup, maybe you can use Voltage Control Pro App, Underclock to 1 GHZ if you are not a hardcore gamer. You can also decrease voltage,more Options over mv are also available in Pro Version, Decreasing Voltage will help lower power consumption of CPU.
You can also install Siyah Latest Kernel and do all of this using S-Tweaks!
Thanks!
@hellco what exactly is your sd card problem?? Can you elaborate??