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Some hints:
1) Flash Bi-Winning V2. Not V3 as I found the V2 has better battery, and V3 doesn't have too many advantages.
2) Keep brightness at low or medium-low. I doubt you need to ever put it on high. If you really want to be smart, use a brightness widget. (the one from curvefish works well
3) Try to have little to no widgets on homescreen. If you must have widgets, use trusted/well-reviewed ones. I installed a clock widget and it drained my battery in 9 hours.
If the above still does not work, then continue. If you are feeling you are getting great battery life, then continue. NOTICE: One major reason why people are getting poor battery life is too much tinkering. After seeing other people are getting better battery life, they try to flash new kernels/modems/roms/etc... and it turns out the new is worse than the old. Then they go and complain. SUMMARY: If you are feeling you have good battery life, then leave it. You should only worry if you do not get at least 12 hours on VERY LIGHT usage. (5 phone calls lasting 10 minutes, Checking emain every 30 minutes. Having fetch for 10 minutes, not push. No widgets, no music, no games etc...
4) If you still do not have good battery with biwinning v2 flash the BALI UV kernel.
5) If you still do not have good battery, try other kernels. Kernel is the one that mainly controls battery.
6) Do you live in an area with poor reception? Try a modem that has good signal-getting abilities. Searching/switching drains battery.
7) If you still do not have good battery, try other roms.
8) If you still do not have good battery, then there is something seriously wrong. Either you are using the phone too heavily (gps etc...) or your battery is worn down. Get a stock replacement.
9) If you are here then just get a extended battery. There must be something wrong with your phone, so either exchange phone or get extended battery. If you do not want buldge get a 1600 or 1650 mah battery.
10) If you are here then throw your phone of a cliff and get this:
http://marginprice.amazonwebstore.com/Nokia-3390-Himalaya-Wht-Faceplate-Back/M/B001KKZQ4Y.htm
11) If you still do not get good battery live under a rock.
NOTE: EVERYONE'S battery life will vary based on usage and other factors.
That said, I am getting 30 hours usage with 50% left. 20 minutes of gaming, 8 phone calls, checking email.
YOUR tips aren't going to work for EVERYONE else.
Everyone's phone is unique, they use it differently, at different times, it depends on what YOU do.
If your gonna use your phone for HD Graphic games 24/7 its not gonna last 10 hours its common sense.
If your so worried about your battery then you know you should turn off GPS/Blue Tooth/ Turn down Brightness.
It's all common sense.
What i don't like you did was firstly, single out ONE ROM for having the best battery, depending on your usage.
Truthfully, i get 2 days of battery on CM7. I don't use my phone to play games and **** not all the time at least, text, phone, music, news , and browsing is what i use it for.
I forgot who it was i think it was Eugene who said
If you want your battery to last, treat it like your mother, not a piss poor whore.
Could also be because bi-winning v3 is still in beta while v2 is not.
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YOUR tips aren't going to work for EVERYONE else.
Everyone's phone is unique, they use it differently, at different times, it depends on what YOU do.
If your gonna use your phone for HD Graphic games 24/7 its not gonna last 10 hours its common sense.
If your so worried about your battery then you know you should turn off GPS/Blue Tooth/ Turn down Brightness.
It's all common sense.
What i don't like you did was firstly, single out ONE ROM for having the best battery, depending on your usage.
Truthfully, i get 2 days of battery on CM7. I don't use my phone to play games and **** not all the time at least, text, phone, music, news , and browsing is what i use it for.
I forgot who it was i think it was Eugene who said
If you want your battery to last, treat it like your mother, not a piss poor whore.
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Not starting a flame war but..
Counter-Point 1) I originally stated that results will vary.
C-P 2) Some people have bad battery even with those things turned off
That's all... Goodnight!
Seriously, battery life has to be the #1 topic or complaint on every Android forum about every ROM, Kernel,or Modem. Thx for the tips krackers and everyone else who tried to find a way to conserve battery on these life sucking smartphones we have now days. Also, you're right xriderx66 "EVERY VIBRANT IS DIFFERENT" no matter how you look at it. What works for one person won't work for the other. By now we all should know the basics of batt. conservation, like what to turn off / remove and to o/c or not to o/c and of course the biggest battery drainer which is how long the screen is on or how bright u have it.
My point that I'm trying to make and that I had made on other forums (which alot of people didn't care about) its that we have these phones that could do so much but we constantly trying to conserve battery so we take the goodness out of the damm phones. I wanna have all the widgets I want running, I wanna have my brightness to 100% so I could see it well in the sun, I wanna have my bluetooth on all the time so I dont need to pull my phone out and dirty it at work. I wanna have either my wifi or data on all day cuz ant any given moment I wanna listen to Pandora, go on you-tube, or browse the web without having to switch this **** on or off, I wanna have my phone running like 95% of other Android user who don't even know what the hell a ROM or Kernel is but don't worry about tweaking this or that like we do so they enjoy their phones even though it kills their batteries.
So how do I do it??? Simple.... I went on eBay. I got three t959 batteries for $12 total (with s&h).I got a t959 battery charger for $3.50 total. I got a wall and car charger set for my phone for $5 total. Now I got a phone charger at home,work, and car. I got a battery charger for all my batteries. I got three fully charged x-tra batteries ready to swap whenever I need to (and not the 3500mah cuz I dont like my phone fat). All that for $20.50. That is how much it cost me to stop being obsessed with my battery life and to fully enjoy my phone. I think alot of you out there should think about doing the same so you're not obsessed with battery life. ENJOY YOUR PHONE PEOPLE
I bought a SG2 some time ago and loved it except for the idle battery drain. For the life of me, I couldn't seem to get it to stop chewing battery when it wasn't being used. I even tested it by charging it to full and leaving it overnight. It lost about 20%.
Remembering that the iPhone 4 had excellent idle battery life, I decided to give it another go just for the hell of it. I hate iOS as a daily driver, but I figured at least I wouldn't have to worry about battery life.
These are my observations:
1) Idle time on iPhone 4 is indeed better. When it's not being used, it uses no battery. However, when being used heavily, the SG2 actually seems to get BETTER battery life than iPhone 4 when it is being used heavily. Not sure why.
2) I severely miss being able to send/upload high quality videos and pictures. I hate the restrictions that Apple places on file size. I don't always have wifi readily available and at least with Android, you can upload large videos to Youtube over the cell connection.
3) I miss the integration in the photo album with social services. It's annoying having to launch an app every time I want to upload a picture/video.
4) The camera on the SG2 is definitely better. You get more fine detail on objects that are further away, no doubt due to the higher megapixel count.
5) I think most apps on iOS look better and are more functional, but the problem is, you have to launch an app to do anything in iOS.
I really wish Samsung (and maybe Google in general) could solve the idle battery drain. Losing 20% over 8 hours without even using the phone seems rather high when you factor in that you'll be losing that battery life whether you use the phone or not. Theoretically, this should mean that the iPhone would get better battery life with the same use, but I'm not finding that to be the case so far. I will probably be going back to my SG2 very soon.
Sorry for the long-winded post. Just wanted to collect my thoughts and present my personal findings.
U r right about battery consumption .
But i m sure Android is going to be so much improved and vast in features that we cant compare to any os in the world in future.
Biggest plus of Android is community like this and the freedom to change things inside it.
agree on most of the things u said there
but
when it comes to battery life i have no idea why its soo random with some people
i lose about 1% an hour on KE2
(stock was on the phone when i bought it no root )
but since i installed KF3
i lose about 2% an hour
rooted flashed from odin
I must have responded to 10+ questions on this forum in the last 24 hours as regards battery drain, i get 25+ hours on my GS2, if you search on here you will find many tips that will substantially increase your battery life.
check the new kernel ninephetamine. Have used the modified 1.4v (with deep sleep enabled).....promising results with undervolting.
Currently OC 1400, and undervolted.
Simple Answer
Iphone does not loose batter on idle cause it puts all apps to sleep state if not used for a while
Android phones in general are always using data for like your emails, facebook, etc if you have set the apps to connect say every hour or so
IF you leave WIFI on it takes up battery as well
I am quiet happy with my SGS2 ( 12 -15 hours ) heavy usage and I am used to daily charging. and its just the day time hours unlike people who may be posting their night time hours as well which add anything form 8-16 more
jonny68 said:
I must have responded to 10+ questions on this forum in the last 24 hours as regards battery drain, i get 25+ hours on my GS2, if you search on here you will find many tips that will substantially increase your battery life.
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I'm not interested in disabling everything that makes Android what it is. If I have to modify it to the point that it's an iPhone, I might as well use an iPhone. I'm well aware of battery saving tips for Android. They almost always involve shutting down all automated services and anything that retrieves data. This is not a solution. I have some e-mail accounts on periodic pull and the most important ones on push. On the iPhone, I have all e-mail accounts on Push.
I also don't particularly want to use a custom ROM. I prefer to stay stock.
I'm not getting horrible battery life on my SG2. In fact, I get around 15 hours with the same kind of use as that on the iPhone 4. I would just like to be able to set the phone down for several hours and not lose a quarter of the battery.
i have tried every single battery optimisation and calibration tricks on my Android phones. My first Android phone was a htc hero, second SE X10 and Now Galaxy S2.
All the optimisation and stuff works if you sacrifice something on your phone. i like my display to be sharp and easy to see. I want my email notification to be prompt and so many other things.
I used to be Windows mobile user my last handset was Toshiba TG01. i never ever had any battery issue.
It is to do with Android system, it needs to improve. it has all the pace now and so many chances.
if this roumor is true then IOS will shrink sooner than 2015:
http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/iPhone+5+delayed+until+2012?/5990
Why my Lamborghini needs more fuel than my Fiat Panda? I can't understand. Crappy Lamborghini, back on Panda.
Well if riding the Panda can get me through the jungle instead of half of it, why not?
Also, the Panda can get me more food via the App Store.
Granted though the Lamborghini has alot more fancy features and doesnt have mindless sheep following it
Anyway, coming from an SGS1, then an iPhone4, I heartily agree with the OP. Android is awesome but it's still rough around the edges. Sometimes the ease and boring simplicity of IOS is something that I miss, along with the Apps and definitely the games which Android is sorely lacking.
But then again I'd be reminded of steve and his itunes bloatware. ugh
Yes, but when Lamborghini is parked it should use the same as the Panda! (I.e. zero.)
Google really should minimise the stuff going on when the phone is idle. Google also needs to do something about all these rouge apps that always start up services that always run in the background. They should provide some way of limiting/stopping the CPU usage of apps running in the background.
Even the official XDA forum app still servers up adverts in the background eating up your battery (and bandwidth) if you press home instead of backup to exit.
wifi sharing is a bit of a bug that drains battery like crazy. If your not rooted thats definitely the screen off battery drain for sure. If there was a reason to root, just root to freeze that one rogue app.
codeworkx said:
Why my Lamborghini needs more fuel than my Fiat Panda? I can't understand. Crappy Lamborghini, back on Panda.
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LOL I like ur metaphor.. but at least give something better than Panda hahaha
Nope, the wifi sharing bug has now been fixed by Samsung in the stock KF3 release available via Kies.
greyhulk said:
I'm not interested in disabling everything that makes Android what it is. If I have to modify it to the point that it's an iPhone, I might as well use an iPhone. I'm well aware of battery saving tips for Android. They almost always involve shutting down all automated services and anything that retrieves data. This is not a solution. I have some e-mail accounts on periodic pull and the most important ones on push. On the iPhone, I have all e-mail accounts on Push.
I also don't particularly want to use a custom ROM. I prefer to stay stock.
I'm not getting horrible battery life on my SG2. In fact, I get around 15 hours with the same kind of use as that on the iPhone 4. I would just like to be able to set the phone down for several hours and not lose a quarter of the battery.
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But most of the stuff is pretty useless anyway all this Samsung bloatware is guaranteed to drain your battery, i don't see it as sacrifcying anything, ive got email on push and i still get over 25+ hours battery,i used an iPhone 4 for a few weeks and id be lucky to get 16 hours with medium to heavy usage.
My data is always enabled too, you can save a lot of battery if you use apps like Juice defender plus and system panel will also tell you which apps,etc are using up more than others.
At the end of the day smartphones are always going to use up much more battery than normal phones and this isn't going to change anytime soon until such time a revoultionary new battery is designed that lasts for days on end.
Until then people have to deal with it,follow the tips and you'll get good battery life, if you want absolutely everything "on at the same time" your simply not going to get it, not on the iPhone 4 or any phone.
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wifi sharing is a bit of a bug that drains battery like crazy. If your not rooted thats definitely the screen off battery drain for sure. If there was a reason to root, just root to freeze that one rogue app.
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indeed this is very true.
LouisJB said:
Yes, but when Lamborghini is parked it should use the same as the Panda! (I.e. zero.)
Google really should minimise the stuff going on when the phone is idle. Google also needs to do something about all these rouge apps that always start up services that always run in the background. They should provide some way of limiting/stopping the CPU usage of apps running in the background.
Even the official XDA forum app still servers up adverts in the background eating up your battery (and bandwidth) if you press home instead of backup to exit.
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It's not parked.
Your Engine is still running on idling mixture.
That's a difference. ;-)
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Nope, the wifi sharing bug has now been fixed by Samsung in the stock KF3 release available via Kies.
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Has not been properly addressed. Thats why its not even included in 90% of the custom roms.
I just can't seem to crack the battery life conondrum. I've calibrated (charge to 100%, wipe stats, then full cycle).
If I'm listening to music its consistently I'm sucking ~10% an hour, if idling ~4-5%. Which means I'm getting around same battery life as my old nexus one – mediocre, I end a working day with around 30-40%. If I want to go out after work i have to remind myself to charge during the day...
Right now I'm even running a mild setcpu undervolt (with faux123 kernel) and profile (screenoff max cpu 600mhz) but seeing not much improvement if any.
I am on gingerbread AT&T radio so thats not it either... any tips aside from 'use juice defender' (which I don't want to do as I want always on data instant push etc., I know juice defender basically shuts your data radio off)?
Note this is the same with stock gingerbread as well as the ROM and kernel I'm currently on (redpill, faux123 kernel)
I've done everything you have and i'm on a Bell Atrix....i have been looking into this for about a week or more and i just can't crack it either!!! it's driving me nuts and i have spent sooo many hours googling, searching xda and other sites and have tested MANY different methods and still can't seem to figure it out. For me i know its the phone idle...but what it is i can't tell, i have SystemPanel monitoring as as well as watchdog which i alternate with. Flashed the battery calibration fix and calibrated the meter blah blah blah....driving me nuts and i know its not a faulty battery because before i unlocked and flashed 2.3.4 i could get about 30 hours with heavy to moderate use!!!
For the love of god i wish a team of dev's would look into this!!!!!!!!
Honestly none of the faux kernels worked for me... Try gobstopper, stock kernel with watchdog was the only combo to give me good battery life. Not to mention lock sounds works properly, and its fast. All bell users should use it. Seriously... 19+ hours worth moderate usage.
phone idle is still high but it seems to be a slow drain.
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a.) not an option for me, AT&T phone
b.) I'm not seeing faux's kernel do any worse than stock kernel, I don't think its the kernel?
c.) yeah I tried system monitor as well, the highest process was opera at 3%.... 3 lousy percent lol
1. Calibrate your battery again (I have posted a guide in the General section)
2. Flash a kernel which allows overclocking, install SetCpu, add battery saving profiles (downclock to 500mhz on screen off, downclock to 800 mhz when battery less than 30%, downclock to 800mhz if temperature higher than 50C)
3. Freeze all MotoBlur bloatware (there's a guide in the general section)
4. Disable data and wifi unless you need it
5. Install Watchdog and set it up according to instructions I provided in my calibration thread.
xploited said:
1. Calibrate your battery again (I have posted a guide in the General section)
2. Flash a kernel which allows overclocking, install SetCpu, add battery saving profiles (downclock to 500mhz on screen off, downclock to 800 mhz when battery less than 30%, downclock to 800mhz if temperature higher than 50C)
3. Freeze all MotoBlur bloatware (there's a guide in the general section)
4. Disable data and wifi unless you need it
5. Install Watchdog and set it up according to instructions I provided in my calibration thread.
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all your solutions he basically either already did (1 and 2), or stated he does not want to (#4) =P
dLo GSR said:
all your solutions he basically either already did (1 and 2), or stated he does not want to (#4) =P
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Well, if you keep data or wifi turned on at all times, then there's no way you can have something more than mediocre battery life, sorry.
It's not the Atrix'es fault, its the brutal truth with all modern smartphones.
1 personally run ninja speed freak, i get amazing battery life. simply amazing, days on worth of battery!
it is not a kernel issue, i simply dont know exactcly what hack in particular gives ninja the amazing battery life. but im working hard to determing this so i can share it.
samcripp said:
1 personally run ninja speed freak, i get amazing battery life. simply amazing, days on worth of battery!
it is not a kernel issue, i simply dont know exactcly what hack in particular gives ninja the amazing battery life. but im working hard to determing this so i can share it.
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Perhaps, bypassing MotoBlur sign in
I'm not signed into motorblur either.
I do turn off wifi when out, but bluetooth is normally on.
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I'm not signed into motorblur either.
I do turn off wifi when out, but bluetooth is normally on.
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The people in this thread have listed all known steps to improving battery life.
If you really follow all of these guidelines and have bad battery life, you might want to try a battery replacement.
If you are sure your battery is not the problem, you might also want to try a couple of custom roms. Who knows maybe you will get lucky with one of them.
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Perhaps, bypassing MotoBlur sign in
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Is there any way to log off from motoblur once you are in so you can stay offline? Of course any connection that gets cut will increase battery life.
I don't understand all these battery life problems. Its got to be an app you are installing or your battery is buggered!
Admittedly when I first installed 2.3.4 OTA, battery life dropped like a stone, but I drained it flat, and then charged it up again and its been fine ever since.
I'm running on stock 2.3.4 without root, and I have quite a lot going on (IM's/Facebook/Twitter) and I can last well over a day and a half with moderate use, this includes sms and calls.
tehrules said:
I don't understand all these battery life problems. Its got to be an app you are installing or your battery is buggered!
Admittedly when I first installed 2.3.4 OTA, battery life dropped like a stone, but I drained it flat, and then charged it up again and its been fine ever since.
I'm running on stock 2.3.4 without root, and I have quite a lot going on (IM's/Facebook/Twitter) and I can last well over a day and a half with moderate use, this includes sms and calls.
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Battery life is a very subjective issue. One person might be fine with the phone, while the other person will say battery life is terrible with the very same phone.
Besides the obvious drainage problems, it all depends on how you use the phone.
Honestly the best thing that worked for me was turning off "Syncing".
I currently have 3G on, BT on, ETC...
Syncing in the background killed my battery life. Now I usually make it through the day without the need for a top-off...
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Im in stock gingerbread and battery life is definitely worse than on stock 2.2.2 and and im basically running the same Apps. I am a heavy user and I used to drop 10% per hour. Switch on at 7am and by 5pm I was changing battery. Now I am switching around 3pm.
That's why I have 3 batteries!
I still think its better than nearly every other device I have owned but that nay be because battery is larger. I dont know why they don't design to put in 2400 mah batteries (my treo 650 had one!).
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Im in stock gingerbread and battery life is definitely worse than on stock 2.2.2 and and im basically running the same Apps. I am a heavy user and I used to drop 10% per hour. Switch on at 7am and by 5pm I was changing battery. Now I am switching around 3pm.
That's why I have 3 batteries!
I still think its better than nearly every other device I have owned but that nay be because battery is larger. I dont know why they don't design to put in 2400 mah batteries (my treo 650 had one!).
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The treo 650 also had a thickness double that of the Atrix .
The batteries in your phone are high-capacity lithium-ion batteries. This kind of battery technology cannot be simply reset and “re-calibrated.” When you follow the steps to recalibrate your battery and delete the batterystats.bin file from your phone, you are getting rid of more than what you think… Stored inside that batterystats.bin file, your phone keeps detailed logs of the capacity of your battery and uses it on how it can be utilized more efficiently. By deleting this file, it basically wipes the phone’s memory on what the battery can really do. This actually does damage to your battery by using up valuable charging cycles, all while giving a fraction of battery life and performance.
Now, you might be saying uh-oh, I’ve already re-calibrated my battery! What do I do?!
Well here’s your answer. Use your phone like normal. Yes, your battery and phone wont perform as good as it can for a while, but after a few days, you will notice that it starts doing better and better. Give it time, its trying to rebuild all those logs that you just deleted.
edgeicator said:
The batteries in your phone are high-capacity lithium-ion batteries. This kind of battery technology cannot be simply reset and “re-calibrated.” When you follow the steps to recalibrate your battery and delete the batterystats.bin file from your phone, you are getting rid of more than what you think… Stored inside that batterystats.bin file, your phone keeps detailed logs of the capacity of your battery and uses it on how it can be utilized more efficiently. By deleting this file, it basically wipes the phone’s memory on what the battery can really do. This actually does damage to your battery by using up valuable charging cycles, all while giving a fraction of battery life and performance.
Now, you might be saying uh-oh, I’ve already re-calibrated my battery! What do I do?!
Well here’s your answer. Use your phone like normal. Yes, your battery and phone wont perform as good as it can for a while, but after a few days, you will notice that it starts doing better and better. Give it time, its trying to rebuild all those logs that you just deleted.
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This is the first time I am reading this sort of opinion, though I have read countless info on the subject.
If you want to make such a strong point, you better have source to back up your opinion (article, studies, other source of proof, etc).
These threads are all USELESS without NUMBERS.
Like another person with common sense already stated in this thread, you need to provide numbers.
GB has this improved tool (over 2.2) where you can see how your battery is wasting its juice. Watch those numbers for a few charges and then POST THEM TO COMPARE.
Saying your battery sucks without giving any numbers is like calling a color ugly.
(just in case someone misses the points, without numbers it's hard to compare, since it mainly becomes an opinion at that point)
P.S.- Please don't post "My battery lasts for over 9000 hours." and think that's enough info. Use your head.
Since the beginning of Android one thing has always been an issue with some of the greatest ROMs.
........................Battery life.
Every day lives are drained away by the pleasures and features of such fantastic ROMs... and such things at time seem so hard to bare that we try to change the lives of our battery by going to a different ROM.
So now you have a chance to make a difference, nay, an opportunity to change the lives of many...
This thread is strictly for how to save Battery life. CM9/AOKP have amazing battery life by themselves (but yet can always be made better) But for those on MIUI (Not so great battery life) this will be really useful.
Understand that everyone's device is different and although you may get 15 hours off MIUI/AOKP/CM9 others may only get 4 from them.
Post what it is that helps you achieve maximum Battery life. You may be the one to solve the cure to wowhowdidmybatterylifedroptwentypercentinanhourosis.
Be sure to include:
1. ROM
2. Kernel
3. Tweaks that have been applied through ClockworkMod
4. Apps used to save life
5. What battery you use
6. How long your life lasts
7. Anything else that you think may help
Eclair
Just Eclair
Any Eclair
Shoot me......
But seriously, disabling 3g on ICS saves a ton of battery life.
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Eclair
Just Eclair
Any Eclair
Shoot me......
But seriously, disabling 3g on ICS saves a ton of battery life.
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Uhhh,,,on ANY ROM...but not a practical solution.
I think the OP is looking for more practical solutions where they are not disabling major features of the smartphone.
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Be sure to include:
1. ROM
2. Kernel
3. Tweaks that have been applied through ClockworkMod
4. Apps used to save life
5. What battery you use
6. How long your life lasts
7. Anything else that you think may help
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1. CM9, although i think aokp does better.
2. Samurai Kernel, although just about any other ICS kernel should help. The biggest thing that you can change between kernels is the Governor and I/O depending on these two will determine how the CPU runs and in effect will determine battery life. Conservative is just about the best for battery life. If you need slickness and not too worried about battery Ondemand. If you want the best of both worlds i Think Wheatly is a good compromise. Also I/O , Sio is "simple" but VR is flash based so it tends to be the best. Otherwise Noop/Deadline. Also voltage.. undervolting will help limit the amount of well voltage to the CPU. So the lower you can get it the better.
3. Dont have tweaks i apply through CWM but i Run the V6 Supercharger, 3G turbocharger(optional), and the Kick Ass Kernelizer from Zeppelin.
4. I cannot stress this enough, Apps that say they save battery... run... which uses RAM and Resources... meaning its running trying to save you battery, Using battery. Which is stupid... and useless.
5. I have two a 3500Mah and the stock 1.5 year old 1500mah.
6. Typically with 3 hours of display over a period of 15hours (1500 mah) and around 5 hours of display over a period of 22 hours (3500 mah). However this is on wifi, 3g would deduct these a pretty good amount if you have sucky speeds.
He needs to get over it... lol. The only thing that truly saves battery life is managing your connections. There is no magic bullet unfortunately.
PLEASE! Don't tell us to turn off data and never sync the phone. Obviously if you don't use the phone the battery will last forever. I need a phone that can do the following:
Receive emails and texts as they are sent. (I use exchange push)
Last 18 hours on a standard or 1800 mAh battery.
I can just barely make that with stock FC09, I'd love to run ICS but with either CM9 or AOKP I barely make 10 hours.
schnowdapowda said:
He needs to get over it... lol. The only thing that truly saves battery life is managing your connections. There is no magic bullet unfortunately.
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Why must people post unhelpful comments such as the one above? I don't understand the logic there...
anyways since this was aimed at miui I get pretty good battery life with it... (3.5 hours screen on time) nyan v5 ftw! No special features... uv a lot (won't list my settings cuz every phone is different) and no oc... used to use jd but, it saves more battery if you just switch things off manually... really though until I flashed nyan my battery life was atrocious, but now just about on par with the peoples rom (4.5 to 5 hours screen on time!) Oh yeah, all this with the stock battery...
poit said:
PLEASE! Don't tell us to turn off data and never sync the phone. Obviously if you don't use the phone the battery will last forever. I need a phone that can do the following:
Receive emails and texts as they are sent. (I use exchange push)
Last 18 hours on a standard or 1800 mAh battery.
I can just barely make that with stock FC09, I'd love to run ICS but with either CM9 or AOKP I barely make 10 hours.
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On aokp with 1800 mAh i can do about 3Hours of screen on time and 15 Hours of battery life and my phone was awake 75% of the time.
Screenie was at 15%
This was stock Everything Except ROM haha
XxLostSoulxX said:
On aokp with 1800 mAh i can do about 3Hours of screen on time and 15 Hours of battery life and my phone was awake 75% of the time.
Screenie was at 15%
This was stock Everything Except ROM haha
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Think about if your screen was on while the device was awake..your time would be cut in half
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Oh my good golly gosh.
I just realized the best battery life I ever got was on DK28.
So take that. Let's go Frankenstein.
1. CM9 KANG June 02 build.
2. Stock
3. Services for V6 and Search Key Remap
4. Ha!
5. Stock. Came with device...need new one.
6. Depends on use. But I usually get the estimated six hours consistently.
7. If you're going to use a task killer just use the built in one. Overclocking is bad, and in my experience so is undervolting. GTalk, official Facebook application(especially this. Even with notifications off it still is always going), G+, and more are always running and are a drain. No live wallpapers, and no widgets that require constant updating. As much black as possible. Don't use third-party batteries. Obviously turning off 3G, 4G, sync, and such will dramatically increase your battery life.
WAIT! Why am I writing this? There is a freaking optimization guide. Why does this exist? For ****s sake.
Running AOKP build 36, stock, FC09 modem 15 hours running takes me down to 50% batt hour of screen time, constant crappy wifi connection in an area with crappy cell signal sync for everything but email and g chat is every 2 hours (weather and all that). Big thing to save batt for me was turning down my screen brightness. I was also getting crappy battery life till i let this rom install run the battery down to 5% twice.
flastnoles11 said:
Why must people post unhelpful comments such as the one above? I don't understand the logic there...
anyways since this was aimed at miui I get pretty good battery life with it... (3.5 hours screen on time) nyan v5 ftw! No special features... uv a lot (won't list my settings cuz every phone is different) and no oc... used to use jd but, it saves more battery if you just switch things off manually... really though until I flashed nyan my battery life was atrocious, but now just about on par with the peoples rom (4.5 to 5 hours screen on time!) Oh yeah, all this with the stock battery...
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By no means was I saying never enable your 3g/4g.. but the fact remains that the single best way to conserve your battery life is to be smart about managing your connections. I.e. not leaving it on ALL day and to only turn sync on when your actually checking your e-mail.. be that through an app like juice defender or manually toggling. If that's not more helpful than what you posted (UV a lot and don't overclock??? Duh.) than my bad bro!
darkierawr said:
Oh my good golly gosh.
I just realized the best battery life I ever got was on DK28.
So take that. Let's go Frankenstein.
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Something we can all get behind here... I remember I used to get 24+ hours on froyo w/o customs kernels. Le sigh..
ÜBER™ put's it pretty well.
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1. CM9, although i think aokp does better.
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-CM9 still seems cleaner, but AOKP seems better.
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2. Samurai Kernel, although just about any other ICS kernel should help. The biggest thing that you can change between kernels is the Governor and I/O depending on these two will determine how the CPU runs and in effect will determine battery life. Conservative is just about the best for battery life. If you need slickness and not too worried about battery Ondemand. If you want the best of both worlds i Think Wheatly is a good compromise. Also I/O , Sio is "simple" but VR is flash based so it tends to be the best. Otherwise Noop/Deadline. Also voltage.. undervolting will help limit the amount of well voltage to the CPU. So the lower you can get it the better.
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-Spot on.
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3. Dont have tweaks i apply through CWM but i Run the V6 Supercharger, 3G turbocharger(optional), and the Kick Ass Kernelizer from Zeppelin.
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-I don't use the supercharger, but I do apply the same oom ram mods. These help close unused apps when they exceed the applied limit. Based on my experience, it's kept apps under control.
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4. I cannot stress this enough, Apps that say they save battery... run... which uses RAM and Resources... meaning its running trying to save you battery, Using battery. Which is stupid... and useless.
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-THIS +9000! An app that spends all of it's time stopping other apps is wasting just as much "battery." I maintain, Advanced Task Killer, with NO, I repeat NO AUTOKILL. Set a widget on your home page, tap it occasionally to make sure everything is closed. Same effect as the built in task manager, but one single convenient tap.
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5. I have two a 3500Mah and the stock 1.5 year old 1500mah.
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-I use two stock 1500mah batteries and one 3500mah. My wife has the same. All are about 1.5 years old now.
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6. Typically with 3 hours of display over a period of 15hours (1500 mah) and around 5 hours of display over a period of 22 hours (3500 mah). However this is on wifi, 3g would deduct these a pretty good amount if you have sucky speeds.
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-These numbers are pretty much the same for me. I almost always average 3 hours display on the stock battery between games and internet. 5-6 hours on the 3500, but I'm pretty sure it's not reaaallly the 3500mah it claims to be... . I NEVER turn off wifi or 3G, but google autosync is off until I edit my contacts.
schnowdapowda said:
By no means was I saying never enable your 3g/4g.. but the fact remains that the single best way to conserve your battery life is to be smart about managing your connections. I.e. not leaving it on ALL day and to only turn sync on when your actually checking your e-mail.. be that through an app like juice defender or manually toggling. If that's not more helpful than what you posted (UV a lot and don't overclock??? Duh.) then my bad bro!
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I don't turn off my connections at all and get great battery life... and seens how the op states don't say anything about disabling 3g or anything id say your comment was the least helpful on the thread... but at least you tried... don't get into a battle of witts with me, I'm afraid your unarmed...
flastnoles11 said:
I don't turn off my connections at all and get great battery life... and seens how the op states don't say anything about disabling 3g or anything id say your comment was the least helpful on the thread... but at least you tried... don't get into a battle of witts with me, I'm afraid your unarmed...
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Firstly, I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you. Its pointless. Secondly, the op makes no mention whatsoever of connection status. Thirdly, while you might get decent battery life w/o doing it.. I guarantee you'd do better if you did. Straight facts.
Edit: I am armed. With a small slide out keyboard.
Please follow the format specified by the OP. List the 7 items. Bickering in this thread will not be tolerated.
Thank you for your cooperation
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kennysvgp08 said:
Be sure to include:
1. ROM
2. Kernel
3. Tweaks that have been applied through ClockworkMod
4. Apps used to save life
5. What battery you use
6. How long your life lasts
7. Anything else that you think may help
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1. CM9
2.ShadowKernel (I find nyan colonel to be a little more draining) SIO, conservative
3. None
4.System Tuner Pro configured to UV, under clock to 400mhz on screen off, to close apps that don't automatically restart themselves, configure "auto-kill" so its not as aggressive with killing apps that just stay on, and a few sysctrl edits that I honestly don't think make a difference.
5.stock epic 1500 mAh, my sprint store wouldn't give me an sgsII battery
6. 12-18 hrs depending on use, though it has definitely drained quicker
7.be easy on data! (There kennyG) turn off wifi when your not near your networks, turn off mobile data, Bluetooth, and autosync when your not needing it. (Unless you absolutely need PUSH email for your job or whatever though honestly as far as my job goes if its important enough for me to need the message immediately they will simply dial my phone number. Yeah I'm old fashioned.
- Cm9
- Shadow kernel
- No tweaks
-1800 D710 battery
- I get 15-20 hours depending on how much music I stream during the day.
- I got the biggest boost by using the profiles in CM9 to optimize my connections and syncing depending on where I'm at during the day. I have Wifi at work and home, so I have it toggle my data off during that time period and vice versa when I'm mobile.
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Using AOKP with shadow kernel.
Best thing I did to help with battery life was to turn off all notification options in the FB app. And I set haxsync to download photos only when plugged in.
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Disclaimer
I am not responsible for any damage to your phone and/or any consequences from your phone being bricked, exploding in your face etc etc etc... You are expected to read the full description and use your brains to process this information, before even touching your phone. Assumed is that you know how to flash using CWM.
Whining that you disagree to remove bloat is not appreciated; If you want to keep your phone bloated for whatever reason, you are at the wrong thread. Feedback should be substantiated and reproducible, not a ventilation of your bottom.
Context
The intention of this thread is to set an approach how to minimize the battery consumption when you are NOT using your device, e.g. when you are at work, sleeping, at some place that does not allow you to recharge, etc. This guide explains how to thoroughly remove stuff that you probably do not need, something that certainly will not affect your battery life in a negative way. The approach is based on the ROMCleaner script, which was extended a bit. Whether it is necessary to remove all the stuff as described, is debatable - nevertheless it is an approach that works for me, otherwise I would not be posting it.
Because a lot of people replied with phrases like "this is bullsh*t", let me state the following: This approach is in no way a guarantee that you will actually achieve battery life longer than 2 seconds after a full recharge. Neither is it a part of the bible, it is merely the approach I followed to prolong the battery life of my device - which I like to share with you. If you are still hating, wonder yourself: "What have I contributed lately?". In any case, at least try it out yourself before drawing your conclusion beforehand and polluting this thread.
The second discussion point is whether the battery should last longer than 1 day. According to many, you are not using your device properly if you would like this to be the case. My answer is simple: If you have no such desire, move along. If you do, like I do, this topic might be of some worth to you.
Furthermore, I honestly do not understand statements like '2-3-4-5 days is impossible' on one battery charge. If you are convinced that Jesus will return again, please do so, but give other people the space to actually find out whether it is the case for themselves.
Some Introduction...
Have you been annoying your ass of because your battery is drained within a day, without even using the phone while at work? I certainly have. Coming from a SGS1, which used to serve me at least 3 days on one charge, I got instant diarrhea from the battery life of the stock SGS3 firmware.
Then I downloaded a ROM, stripped everything unneeded and more and finally got a battery life of approx 3 - 4 days. However, because I had ripped a ROM apart, which was a manual operation, updating became quite time-intensive. Therefore I also did not update, until the recent JB leaks. So this time I though: Lets make a script to do it for me, in order to make updates possible in an easy way. Then I only have to run the clean-script after an update.
After some testing, I am finally satisfied with my device again - Check out the screenshots. The results are achieved while having wifi constantly on, using google sync and whatsapp. The screenshots are based on Wanamlite XXDLI7; The first shows the battery usage during a night, the second during a day of light phone usage. I will post another screenshot when the battery is drained completely.
What to expect and trade-offs
After completing this procedure you can expect significant increase of battery life when the phone is idle. If you are using the phone actively all day long, then this approach might not be of much worth to you. People who do not have time to play with the phone all day, e.g. because they work during the day, will probably find this most useful. The cleaning of your rom will remove about 70% of the apps/widgets that come by default, therefore it is wise to check whether you will not lose apps/widgets that are valuable to you. You are still free to modify the "script" according to your need/desire.
So what do we need?
A DEODEXED Stock-based ROM, I prefer wanamlite http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705866
ROMCleaner - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827817
The attached ROMCleaner_user.txt will sustain default samsung browser, calendar, email and messaging. (untested)
The attached ROMCleaner_user_jb-apps.txt expects you to replace the JellyBean apps discussed next. Beware that the stock browser, calendar and email are not tested by me and could drain your battery faster.
Because I had some issues that ROMCleaner would not read the ROMCleaner_user.txt, I had to integrate the file into the ROMCleaner package. To do this, you can download the ROMCleaner package and replace META-INF\com\google\android\romcleaner\ROMCleaner.txt in the zip by the file you just downloaded.
Packages to restore some stuff ^^
If you have chosen for the JellyBean apps package (jbapps-avdaga.zip) you will get:
JellyBean browser + calendar ripped from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797109
Inverted JellyBean apps: email and messaging ripped from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780559
In case you want Samsung Apps store for free fancy games, get it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861409
Got the packages, whats next?
Put all files on your phone, reboot to CWM.
Make a backup of your current system, smart monkey.
Flash the JellyBean ROM of your prefrence if you have not already. (If you come from ICS, wiping your data guarantees best results).
"Flash" the ROMCleaner script, either by using ROMCleaner_user.txt approach, or integrating the file.
If necessary, flash the provided JellyBeans apps package and Samsung Apps package.
Reboot and enjoy your awesome battery.
Thanks to
Wanam for his awesome ROM.
Patrics83 and others for ROMCleaner.
Temasek and CyanogenMod team for proper Android apps.
All others I forgot.
Interesting Posts
flypubec said:
@OP: Your post is missleading. Removed bloatware has nothing to do with the battery life.
After intensive research I came to the conclusion that there are only 2 major issues for the battery drain on vanilla stock ROM (JB DLI8).
Those are:
1) Samsung push service : SOLUTION -> simply unstall it, bacause you don't need it anyway (e.g. via Titanium backup).
2) Wrong fast dormancy setting : SOLUTION -> use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gokhanmoral.fastdormancytoggle.i9300&hl=sl from gokhanmoral to toggle it to the setting supported by your carier. BE careful not to toggly it exactly the oposite.
With these 2 mods on stock DLI8 I get less than 0.5% battery drain while idle over an hour.(Mail sync set to every 30 mins)
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>> If you like to keep all samsung stuff, this indeed is probably a better approach.
manemzjum said:
Charging your phone and putting it in airplane mode for 23 hrs your fooling no-one
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>> In the screenshot you can see the mobile network signal.
Nice!
I've been on Stock-rooted since I got the device. I'm definitely going to try this out.
I use my phone plenty, doubt I'd be able to get 5 days out of it, but we'll see.
Is it better than just freezing all the unwanted apps?
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Is it better than just freezing all the unwanted apps?
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Cannot promise that, but you can compare the list of removed apps in ROMCleaner.txt
Will it work with a LH1 (BTU)- stock rom? (Rooted, of course)
Thanks!
According to the images, the screen was off 99% of the time, am I missing something?
DorEzo said:
Will it work with a LH1 (BTU)- stock rom? (Rooted, of course)
Thanks!
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It should, make a backup and try for yourself. Do take into consideration that you might need the default ICS apps or simply use the ROMCleaner_user.txt, not the JB one.
yellowbiz said:
According to the images, the screen was off 99% of the time, am I missing something?
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The first image is supposed to show how it performs when idle, the second is after a day of usage. Primarily used it for some messaging and calls though, however the main point is that the battery is not drained when not using the phone. When I used a stock rom the battery was depleted for 50% after half a day without me even touching the device :-\
Of course if you use the phone normally the battery will be depleted in 3-4 days, like i mentioned in the intro.
I know how to get years of battery life, charge your phone to 100%, take the battery out for at least 2 years, and it should have some life left in it, you must make sure you don't put the battery in for at least 2 years.
What are you guys whining about..if it can improve your battery life and remove the apps that you dont need, why not? You should be thankfull that people put their work in such things in their free time.
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henrybravo said:
Yay, let's remove a bunch of features from the phone so that when you're not using it at all, you can get 5 days of battery life! :silly: Your claim of "normal" usage equaling 3-4 days is pretty unrealistic. Battery usage is subjective with thousands of variables, which makes lofty claims of battery life completely pointless.
Nearly all of your battery life improvements are just doing step #1.
You're using a rooted and tweaked stock ROM with a tweaked kernel. Just by doing this, you're going to get much better battery life versus stock ROM. Nothing new to see here. Removing what little other "bloat" that Wanam left in the ROM by removing a bunch of apk's (that don't run anyway unless you launch them) and replacing a few ICS apps with JB versions will only offer a very small improvement.
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Please install any stock-based ROM and check the services that are running in the background - without you even know you had them. There is a lot of garbage coming in all stock-based roms, and I really do not understand the problem of removing stuff you do not use; Morever, I think this is something people should do in all apsects of life; that is removing sh*t you do not use.
I conclude your assertions are based on thin air, as you did not even take the time to test this approach. I have spent quite some time testing stuff out and posting my observations here - so please do not post if you have nothing constructive or reproducible to say.
Last thing: I do not replace ICS apps with JB, this stuff was tested on a JB rom - but you knew already because you read the full post
so basically you debloat a stock deodexed Rom? Any other changes I'm missing?
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so basically you debloat a stock deodexed Rom? Any other changes I'm missing?
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Besides changing some samsung apps for CM10 ones, that is it indeed. Though the debloating is more thorough than proposed by others.
Ok, thanks,, just wanted to know exactly what the script did, prefer my own debloating and tweaking, but good for newcomers.
there are also people that are not normal and want to use their phones on trips or in situations when they have no charging opportunities
@OP: Your post is missleading. Removed bloatware has nothing to do with the battery life.
After intensive research I came to the conclusion that there are only 2 major issues for the battery drain on vanilla stock ROM (JB DLI8).
Those are:
1) Samsung push service : SOLUTION -> simply unstall it, bacause you don't need it anyway (e.g. via Titanium backup).
2) Wrong fast dormancy setting : SOLUTION -> use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gokhanmoral.fastdormancytoggle.i9300&hl=sl from gokhanmoral to toggle it to the setting supported by your carier. BE careful not to toggly it exactly the oposite.
With these 2 mods on stock DLI8 I get less than 0.5% battery drain while idle over an hour.(Mail sync set to every 30 mins)
Does this work on the omega rom by any chance. i only need at least a full day worth or battery
Iffay said:
Does this work on the omega rom by any chance. i only need at least a full day worth or battery
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It should work on any stock-based rom, also omega.
My thoughts...really.
I don't wanna sound rude, yet i had to agree with some when they say "buy a Nokia (old one of course" or just "disconnet for one or two years".
It's virtually impossible with the kind of gadgets we have these days any battery last more than 1 day.
I've made my own mods and roms from scratch in recent past for X10, so u may consider at least that i known what i'm talking about.
The only way, no mather witch brand you like or believe its the best, is by f#@king your screen. Period. That is the main reason why every phone just last 1 day with "normal" use.
If you've payed attention i've used "normal" expression witch means phone, mail, sync and didn't wrote "heavy use" that will include music, YouTube, videos, etc.
Like i said. I've made my own work in the past and still do some minor (?) changes and i must say this: i'm glad if my phone last one working day from 7AM till 23PM. Yes! Working day, that's why i dont't develop anything.
If you or anyone else state that your/his phone had better battery life than this i make two considerations:
1. You're (not you in particular) a liar, or;
2. You simply don't use your phone as you can.
If you dont consider that you belong at the first consideration than..."buy a Nokia..."
Another thought:
You just bought this (or similar) phone for a status matter or money it's something that's really cheap for you (another 2nd choice).
Like i said...just my 2 cents.
Cheers
R.
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No way you have devised a way for your phone not to use battery while not using it
What's your next project you gonna design a wireless device that can change my tv station using infer red lasers
Oh wait both of these already exist
Charging your phone and putting it in airplane mode for 23 hrs your fooling no-one
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