[Q]Will NativeSD wipe all my data when applied/flashed? - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Hi everyone, I want to use NativeSD, because i am running out of space (I am using NexusHD2 with 180 /system and link2sd, 512 MB ext), but i am afraid, that i will lose all my data (i can do a nandroid backup with CWM 5.0.2.6), but if i will restore data, will it still copy them to /data or not?

I have mokee in NAND & the rest in Ext4 Native SD, so afr all seems to be OK But i'm not sure about the use of the a2sd/ link2sd since that will also use the ext4 part of the sd.
just do a total back up & give it a shot!

mengfei said:
I have mokee in NAND & the rest in Ext4 Native SD, so afr all seems to be OK But i'm not sure about the use of the a2sd/ link2sd since that will also use the ext4 part of the sd.
just do a total back up & give it a shot!
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Okay, thanks! :thumbup:

Having had sd versions for a long time i recently switched to native sd and its great.
Just remember that when you want to backup to copy BOTH fat32 and ext4.
Just formatted my 32gb card and almost forgot to backup the ext4
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App2SD - cyanogen

not sure if this has been answered yet as I don't think I can search in this app, but is there a way to enable app2sd on cyanogen 5.0.5.3?
Yes, under applications.
it's greyed out for me.
Is your sd card partitioned?
jerrycycle said:
Is your sd card partitioned?
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...probably not. I'm assuming if it isn't there isn't an easy way to do so and keep my data?. .. or is there? .
Use recovery 1.7 cyanogen version to make a ext2 partition then upgrade it from ext2 to ext3 to ext4. Mount your sd card and back it up before wiping it.
1 Install recovery 1.7 cyanogen
2 Boot into recovery
3 select patition sd card option
4 select partition sd
5 choose 0 for swap 1 to 2 gigs for ext2 and the rest will be fat32.
5 once that is done go back into patition sd card options and select ext2 to ext3 then after thats done select ext3 to ext4.
Hope this helps
shep
shep211 said:
Use recovery 1.7 cyanogen version
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1 Install recovery 1.7 cyanogen
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Cyanogen did not write this recovery tool; Amon_RA created a CM-based theme for it as it was heavily requested. He also added in support for Soyars' Apps2SD implementation (what you are giving a how-to for).
You actually do not need to change ext types for this to work. For testing purposes, I left it as the stock ext partition type created by 1.7 and apps2sd works beautifully.
shep211 said:
Use recovery 1.7 cyanogen version to make a ext2 partition then upgrade it from ext2 to ext3 to ext4. Mount your sd card and back it up before wiping it.
1 Install recovery 1.7 cyanogen
2 Boot into recovery
3 select patition sd card option
4 select partition sd
5 choose 0 for swap 1 to 2 gigs for ext2 and the rest will be fat32.
5 once that is done go back into patition sd card options and select ext2 to ext3 then after thats done select ext3 to ext4.
Hope this helps
shep
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thanks heaps
deprecate said:
Cyanogen did not write this recovery tool; Amon_RA created a CM-based theme for it as it was heavily requested. He also added in support for Soyars' Apps2SD implementation (what you are giving a how-to for).
You actually do not need to change ext types for this to work. For testing purposes, I left it as the stock ext partition type created by 1.7 and apps2sd works beautifully.
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I never said it was made by Cyanogen. I know Amon_RA made it.
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how can you revert the partition on the sd card?
i want to have the full space on my sd card just as it came from stock.
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So that didn't seem to work.
I tried without the updating of ext3 and ext4 and no dice.
I finally SEEMED to have gotten it to work. I did the partition of:
SWAP 0
EXT2 2048
REMAINDER
Anyways, I did this WITHOUT the ext3 and ext4 updates. When I went into the OS, the App2SD is enabled and the SD card mounts fine.
Hopefully this will continue to work. Any1 know what the problems are without updating to ext4?
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tonnic said:
well that didn't work well. my phone became unresponsive and then the screen wouldn't come on.
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jesus i hope its fixed..
A REALLY EASY WAY TO PARTITION YOUR MEMORY CARD IS AS FOLLOWS...
back-up your card
download Clockwork Recovery MOD from the market
buy the pro version because this guy is a genius*
+you might have to in order to partition idk
click partition memory card (something like that)
i clicked 512MB then 256MB for the second option.
works amazingly
tonnic said:
well that didn't work well. my phone became unresponsive and then the screen wouldn't come on.
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Do you have a linux distro handy?
if so, you can use Gparted to create the partitions. You might need a microSD adapter though, as it seems to have trouble finding the mount point if it is in the phone.
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EXT 4 Partition problem

How do I know if my EXT Partition is working??
i followed the steps perfectly..& ,y 16Gb sd card have 2 partition 1.5GB EXT4 - 13GB FAT32
but im not seeing a different with my internal memory space...its the same
i feel like its the same with out the EXT partition.
plz guys help me....
i needed more internal storage to install application...so i found a topic talking about making SD card 2 partition 1 EXT & the Other normal Fat32..i understod that the EXT partition will be as internal memory & i followed the steps
after flashing the NAND i didnt find any different in my internal memory storage & after installing some application my internal memory got low...so i used APP2SD but as u all know some application cant be moved to SD.
so plz i want to know where is my EXT4 1.5GB partition & how can i know if its working or not ?
Does your rom you are flashing use data2ext or app2sd? If the rom itself isn't set up to recognize the partition I doubt you can just add a partition.
ClydeB1 said:
Does your rom you are flashing use data2ext or app2sd? If the rom itself isn't set up to recognize the partition I doubt you can just add a partition.
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i was using MDJ FroYo Revolution v.2.3 [A2SD+][RMNET][Kernel: MDJ S10.2 OC]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491
but my memory got low tooo fast from a little application....so im now using a smaller NAND
CleanDROID v1.30 - Super Clean [FROYO+Cyanogen][Kernel GL v1]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917590 just to get more free space
I haven't tried either of those so can't comment. The one I'm using certainly recognises my partition and I have plenty of "internal" memory.
I know most recommend not going above 1gb for the partition as larger ones can cause a problem. Try reformatting the partition and resize it to 1gb and see if that helps.
thank you ill try another NAND
can u tell me ROM r u using?
justrelax said:
thank you ill try another NAND
can u tell me ROM r u using?
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Move data to SD card in CM7

I had repartition my SD card for a while, and I never checked my 512M ext3 partiton since I rarely do anything with it. Recently I mounted it and check, nothing store in it, all app go to .android_secure in my Fat32 partition.
I'm using CM7, is there any extra step to get app install goes to ext3 partition, or I should delete the ext3 and resize fat32 partition ?
Edit: as I search around, CM7 using Froyo App2SD ? Maybe I should install Darktremor App2SD or not ? Is there any extra step to install it on Wildfire
You are right. Flash DTApps2SD.
when I install darktremor, will it move all app to ext3 or I have to do something with it ?
Thanks for your answer, maybe I'll install darktremor app2sd now
I installed DTApp2SD anh successfully moved dalvik-cache to ext partition, but .android_secure still there.
When I run a2sd reinstall, next time the phone will never load, stuck at HBOOT boot screen.

[Q] Move apps from sd-ext to NAND, then repartition SD card

Hi guys,
I've installed a CM7 ROM then installed S2E, then flashed an AOSP build to replace it. When I try to use S2E to move the apps back to NAND from sd-ext, it shows up in NAND in the first couple of boots, but later on goes back to sd-ext without S2E doing the job. I kinda figured that it's built into the ROM to move the apps to sd-ext.
What would be the safest way to move the apps from sd-ext back to /data/app, and then repartition my SD card into a single partition and use its whole storage capacity?
Thanks in advance!
ejebyte said:
Hi guys,
I've installed a CM7 ROM then installed S2E, then flashed an AOSP build to replace it. When I try to use S2E to move the apps back to NAND from sd-ext, it shows up in NAND in the first couple of boots, but later on goes back to sd-ext without S2E doing the job. I kinda figured that it's built into the ROM to move the apps to sd-ext.
What would be the safest way to move the apps from sd-ext back to /data/app, and then repartition my SD card into a single partition and use its whole storage capacity?
Thanks in advance!
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try link2sd in the market,it's free,but once you've moved all u want to,boot into recovery and wipe cache partition and wipe dalvik,that MIGHT do the trick
one question, how do you want to partition your sd? i mean one fat or one ext partition? But seriously, one partition is a bad idea, i wouldnt recommend that.
@Ty5982, Thanks for the input! Will try that later.
@greg17477, I'm using Windows so I want to format it to a single Fat32 partition. What's your recommendation?
Partition ur sd card in recovery with 1gb and swap size 64mb,THEN,open link2sd and when u 1st open it,it checks your phone and sd card then prompts u were u want to send apps to,ext 2,3,4 or FAT 32,select FAT 32 as its what u want,then a error msg will appear,reboot,then open link2sd and now you've got your fat 32 lol
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Ty5982 said:
Partition ur sd card in recovery with 1gb and swap size 64mb,THEN,open link2sd and when u 1st open it,it checks your phone and sd card then prompts u were u want to send apps to,ext 2,3,4 or FAT 32,select FAT 32 as its what u want,then a error msg will appear,reboot,then open link2sd and now you've got your fat 32 lol
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Won't that have moved his apps to a fat32 partition?
If I'm reading this correctly what the OP wants is to move his apps to NAND so he can format his sd card to its full capacity in FAT32, presumably so he can use it as a normal SD card (eg for a camera, moving files etc)
I personally use a very popular app called DarkTremors Apps2SD GUI, it comes preinstalled on a lot of custom ROMS. This app checks where your apps are when you launch it, and gives you the option to either move them to SD-EXT or back again. Launch APPS2SDGUI, let it check your system, then click 'Apps are on SD!' to move them back to NAND.
P.S. I don't think you can wipe the SD-EXT partition off the SD card using Windows' built-in formatter. There are lots of freeware apps that can and will do this though, google is your friend =]
jwchips said:
Won't that have moved his apps to a fat32 partition?
If I'm reading this correctly what the OP wants is to move his apps to NAND so he can format his sd card to its full capacity in FAT32, presumably so he can use it as a normal SD card (eg for a camera, moving files etc)
I personally use a very popular app called DarkTremors Apps2SD GUI, it comes preinstalled on a lot of custom ROMS. This app checks where your apps are when you launch it, and gives you the option to either move them to SD-EXT or back again. Launch APPS2SDGUI, let it check your system, then click 'Apps are on SD!' to move them back to NAND.
P.S. I don't think you can wipe the SD-EXT partition off the SD card using Windows' built-in formatter. There are lots of freeware apps that can and will do this though, google is your friend =]
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@Ty5982, unfortunately it didn't work. It went badly and I lost the apps in sd-ext so I ended up restoring them..
@jwchips, thanks! Will try that one instead. Yep, I've read about the tools/apps that can be used to partition/format storage devices with EXT. Thanks again.
ejebyte said:
@Ty5982, Thanks for the input! Will try that later.
@greg17477, I'm using Windows so I want to format it to a single Fat32 partition. What's your recommendation?
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well i would recommend tu have 2 partitions, ext and fat. Just to be safe or prapared in case your want to try a different rom. Nowadayes almost every rom uses ext partition. And you won't run out of space, if you install some more apps.
greg17477 said:
well i would recommend tu have 2 partitions, ext and fat. Just to be safe or prapared in case your want to try a different rom. Nowadayes almost every rom uses ext partition. And you won't run out of space, if you install some more apps.
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I see. Thanks! Currently I have a 512MB EXT partition on my SD card. I thought I'd be able to choose which apps to move there but it seems my ROM automatically symlinks the apps installed to the EXT partition.
So I decided I want to just install the apps to NAND since I don't really install a lot of apps and I'm using a TMOUS HD2, just for an extra boost in performance compared to when apps are installed to SD-EXT. Then I'll just selectively move apps to SD.
ejebyte said:
I see. Thanks! Currently I have a 512MB EXT partition on my SD card. I thought I'd be able to choose which apps to move there but it seems my ROM automatically symlinks the apps installed to the EXT partition.
So I decided I want to just install the apps to NAND since I don't really install a lot of apps and I'm using a TMOUS HD2, just for an extra boost in performance compared to when apps are installed to SD-EXT. Then I'll just selectively move apps to SD.
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ah ok, on TMOUS HD2 you might do not need an ext partition
greg17477 said:
ah ok, on TMOUS HD2 you might do not need an ext partition
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That's what I've figured..
I might just back-up everything then re-flash and repartition my phone and SD card. Anyway, thanks everyone!
ejebyte said:
That's what I've figured..
I might just back-up everything then re-flash and repartition my phone and SD card. Anyway, thanks everyone!
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Hi, I hope you guys are still around, I´ve been looking for an answer and can´t find anything, heres the question I posted on another thread:
I´ve been having trouble with my phone freezing even after full wipes, so I´ve come to the conclusion my sdcard is corrupt.
So I want to go through the Gparted process to format and re-partition my sdcard.
Currently I have 16GB class 6, which has the recommended FAT32 and 1GB ext4.
Is it safe (or even possible) to format the sd card now. I tried with Gparted and only the FAT32 partition showed up???
The rom is runnymede aio which requires the ext4
Thanks
colinmc8 said:
Hi, I hope you guys are still around, I´ve been looking for an answer and can´t find anything, heres the question I posted on another thread:
I´ve been having trouble with my phone freezing even after full wipes, so I´ve come to the conclusion my sdcard is corrupt.
So I want to go through the Gparted process to format and re-partition my sdcard.
Currently I have 16GB class 6, which has the recommended FAT32 and 1GB ext4.
Is it safe (or even possible) to format the sd card now. I tried with Gparted and only the FAT32 partition showed up???
The rom is runnymede aio which requires the ext4
Thanks
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be sure to format both partitions as primary.

Problem regarding Swap

I'm using Lewa OS v4,
Initially there is a Swapper working, with a swap file on System partition (not more than 32 MB).
But i want to make it some large, i tried Ext 4 partition on SD Card .
I go to the swapper setting and change the mode to sdcard partition ,
It says ' swap open failed '.
I reboot, swapping becomes normal but also that partition mounts at /data/app
That is phone memory is replaced by this partition and the apps which i install in phone memory it install on this partition.
And when i check the storage in " Managing Application " tab in setting it shows the real phone memory with apps installed on ext4 sdcard partition.
Its too messy
And due to this i am having trouble using ext4 sdcard partition swap.
Is this is a problem with GB Roms or only with Lewa rom v4
vinmac said:
I'm using Lewa OS v4,
Initially there is a Swapper working, with a swap file on System partition (not more than 32 MB).
But i want to make it some large, i tried Ext 4 partition on SD Card .
I go to the swapper setting and change the mode to sdcard partition ,
It says ' swap open failed '.
I reboot, swapping becomes normal but also that partition mounts at /data/app
That is phone memory is replaced by this partition and the apps which i install in phone memory it install on this partition.
And when i check the storage in " Managing Application " tab in setting it shows the real phone memory with apps installed on ext4 sdcard partition.
Its too messy
And due to this i am having trouble using ext4 sdcard partition swap.
Is this is a problem with GB Roms or only with Lewa rom v4
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And why are u using ext4 for swap..ext2/3/4 are for sd-ext only..it should be in linux swap.
And try using swapper 2 which is free at play store..it can create a swap file of 256mb max..
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sandy_tea said:
And why are u using ext4 for swap..ext2/3/4 are for sd-ext only..it should be in linux swap.
And try using swapper 2 which is free at play store..it can create a swap file of 25mb max..
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wrong, for android you use ext to make a swap partition
vinmac said:
I'm using Lewa OS v4,
Initially there is a Swapper working, with a swap file on System partition (not more than 32 MB).
But i want to make it some large, i tried Ext 4 partition on SD Card .
I go to the swapper setting and change the mode to sdcard partition ,
It says ' swap open failed '.
I reboot, swapping becomes normal but also that partition mounts at /data/app
That is phone memory is replaced by this partition and the apps which i install in phone memory it install on this partition.
And when i check the storage in " Managing Application " tab in setting it shows the real phone memory with apps installed on ext4 sdcard partition.
Its too messy
And due to this i am having trouble using ext4 sdcard partition swap.
Is this is a problem with GB Roms or only with Lewa rom v4
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Friend,
Use this menthod for swap in lewa os rom v4:
1.Backup ur currently data in CWM(skip this if u want a fresh install)
2.Backup all ur data in SD(place it somewhare in ur pc)
3.Reboot in CWM>Advance>Partition the SD Card>the ext3>512m>32m
4.Press Enter key.wait till its done.
5.Now u have 512mb EXT partition with 32mb SWAP partition & ur SD is REFORMAT.
6.Copy back all ur data
7.Reboot again in CWM & restore or install fresh rom
8.Go to swap in phone(u know where)and apply SD swap.
DONE
why just dont ask in my thread.....
What it means that 512MB EXT4 partition and 32MB Swap partition?
Actually I don't want partition for App to SD.
And if swap is 32MB then swap file in system partition is more feasible. As i know that phone memory is more faster than sdcard in any case. (Might be I'm wrong)
But in my case it is true, I have class 2 sdcard.
zmuhammx said:
Friend,
why just dont ask in my thread.....
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I ask here because i'm confused that if this problem is with Lewa os or with all GB Roms.
sandy_tea said:
And try using swapper 2 which is free at play store..it can create a swap file of 25mb max..
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Swapper included in the Rom .
No need of external app.
And capable of making 32MB swap in system partition and 128 MB sdcard file
Lloir said:
wrong, for android you use ext to make a swap partition
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Have u tried it? Even if u are using cwm to partition your sdcard the third partition for swap will be formatted as linux swap for sure
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vinmac said:
Swapper included in the Rom .
No need of external app.
And capable of making 32MB swap in system partition and 128 MB sdcard file
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Well it is up to u which u are going to use then
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vinmac said:
What it means that 512MB EXT4 partition and 32MB Swap partition?
Actually I don't want partition for App to SD.
And if swap is 32MB then swap file in system partition is more feasible. As i know that phone memory is more faster than sdcard in any case. (Might be I'm wrong)
But in my case it is true, I have class 2 sdcard.
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Depending on the apps you often use & how often those apps swap-out RAM, you might actually experience performance lag. Asides (I insist!), beating your card to death.

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