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Hello guys, yesterday i used the maps and it said i need to turn my 3g on i usually have it off. And when i press navigate it said i need to enable gps and i did. So my question is doesnt gps run without 3g or internet on other phones? And also i wana know does it use data?
because google maps requires an internet connection...
I all depends on which application you use for navigation.
Short answer:
Check with the software instrucions / help files to see how it behaves and works.
Long answer:
Some map software's have all the map data you need for your region already packed with it.
Advantage: No data need to be downloaded within the region, fast, works offline.
Disadvantage: Tricky to update the maps and often charge you for additional regions. Takes up space on the device.
Other apps download maps on the go as you navigate.
Advantage: Always the latest maps as you navigate. Takes less space on the device. Disadvantage: slow or even non-functional with poor or no data connection.
Google maps and Google navigation are of the latter one. They downloads maps as you navigate. therefor it is a good idea to have a data-plan with your provider so no additional expenses comes to.
They are free to use, so if you already have a data-plan with your provider, it's practically free.
On the X10, there are one application included by Sony Ericsson on most X10 sold out there: Wisepilot.
Wisepilot are the kind where you buy maps and download them into your phone, once this is done, it will use little or none of your data-connection.
I'm not sure, but I think Wisepilot are the kind that can be used offline once maps are bought and downloaded.
It can use the data-connection to download additional information such as "speed limit cameras", "spots of interest" and so on.
Try Mapdroid
This app downloads the MAP files when internet is available and can be used offline also with GPS activated..... try this, this is da best app
To US and Canadian Users
hey, when you use google navigation, will you be able to use the voice guidance??? I am having troubles to use the voice guidance...not sure how to activate it....
Having to buy the maps and such for wisepilot.. I wish there was a better solution for GPS on the x10. I wouldn't mind using it, but not necessary.
You can use GPS without 3G. I can even get a lock with my phone in airport mode and inside a cement building. When I say cement I mean cement, the floor, walls, and ceiling are all cement (hurricane proof). It is the third (top) floor however.
GPS software on x10
Currently I installed Navigon, Ndrive, MotoNave and Copilot 8 on my x10i with various world maps and all fully functional without 3g or network connection, direct data from satellite in orbit with the phone inbuild GPS receiver. Why you may ask? Because I can. How you may ask? The answers is out there! I am giving you the knowledge , now go and find your answers.
X10 is an Awsome device.
Another solution is to use the Brut Google Maps mod. It allows you to view previously viewed maps from the SD card. It saves the Google maps cache to your SD, but the only downside is that you have to view all of the places you want to travel on at all zoom levels.
If anyone needs it, I have the majority of Menorca done at all zoom levels......
I tend to use google navigation, the best bit of this is when you have your route downloaded and the voice guidance starts, you can then switch off your 3g and it still routes you. Obviously if you take a wrong turn it won't be able to download a new route until you switch 3g back on, but hey
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Wow really.. so I can use my phone's gps rather than my car's and I DON"T need 3g?? that's sweet..
Only too bad I don't know how to install any other GPS on my phone... I'm such a noob. Back to my magellans GPS .. ool
Anyone willing to go through the process with me ? haha
twentybenson said:
I tend to use google navigation, the best bit of this is when you have your route downloaded and the voice guidance starts, you can then switch off your 3g and it still routes you. Obviously if you take a wrong turn it won't be able to download a new route until you switch 3g back on, but hey
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do you mind to share how you activate the voice guidance??? I am having troubles activating this in my google navigation....
Sighx said:
Wow really.. so I can use my phone's gps rather than my car's and I DON"T need 3g?? that's sweet..
Only too bad I don't know how to install any other GPS on my phone... I'm such a noob. Back to my magellans GPS .. ool
Anyone willing to go through the process with me ? haha
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Use Google, i have Sygic with France, Spain, Andorra and Portugal maps up to date, included shops, hotels, restaurants, radars...
I repeat, use google and you will find out
oXunknownXo said:
Use Google, i have Sygic with France, Spain, Andorra and Portugal maps up to date, included shops, hotels, restaurants, radars...
I repeat, use google and you will find out
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I have searched Google. I live in Canada so I would need North American maps.. ha.. but however, I still don't get the installation process. I am not very computer literate as many of you guys are ):
njfpolyr6 said:
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hey, when you use google navigation, will you be able to use the voice guidance??? I am having troubles to use the voice guidance...not sure how to activate it....
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It automatically did it on mine. On google map, tap on Direction. When you enter direction it will ask you to activate GPS (if not already activated).
RumpleStealthSkin said:
It automatically did it on mine. On google map, tap on Direction. When you enter direction it will ask you to activate GPS (if not already activated).
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the google navigation works fine, just there is no voice guidance... It only has the "beep" sound when it is about to change in direction (like make left/right turn, stay in the lane, or heading out to the exit) So I am wondering how to make it with turn by turn with voice guidance turn on...
iHim said:
Currently I installed Navigon, Ndrive, MotoNave and Copilot 8 on my x10i with various world maps and all fully functional without 3g or network connection, direct data from satellite in orbit with the phone inbuild GPS receiver. Why you may ask? Because I can. How you may ask? The answers is out there! I am giving you the knowledge , now go and find your answers.
X10 is an Awsome device.
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what nav app did u like the most out of those? i currently have motonav, its great but button presses are somewhat laggy. what do u reccomend?
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njfpolyr6 said:
the google navigation works fine, just there is no voice guidance... It only has the "beep" sound when it is about to change in direction (like make left/right turn, stay in the lane, or heading out to the exit) So I am wondering how to make it with turn by turn with voice guidance turn on...
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Try going to your phone Settings/Speech Synthesis/Install voice data...
If that doesn't work the I've no idea
Good luck!
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I like em all but the one I find myself using the most is Copilot 8 and yes you are right, button presses are laggy on Motonav. I travel all over the world with my job so these GPA apps are very handy to have on a single device.
Best device for my needs. Great apps, awesome GPS, great camera, storage space (16GB), 3G & wifi and movies.
twentybenson said:
Try going to your phone Settings/Speech Synthesis/Install voice data...
If that doesn't work the I've no idea
Good luck!
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Looks like i am out of luck. the "install voice data" optioned was dimmed out, and i wont be able to install it.....
I saved the area I live in offline in Google Maps. Can I navigate within the area saved offline with GPS or do I need a data connection like WiFi or a tether from my phone?
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Dillon610 said:
I saved the area I live in offline in Google Maps. Can I navigate within the area saved offline with GPS or do I need a data connection like WiFi or a tether from my phone?
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My understanding is that the directional data comes from the Google's servers, so I don't think this will work. I have not actually tried, but I imagine that since it has a GPS, that you may be able to see yourself moving via offline Maps data, just without directions. I'm curious and will try this when I drive home from work in a few mins.
nickmv said:
My understanding is that the directional data comes from the Google's servers, so I don't think this will work. I have not actually tried, but I imagine that since it has a GPS, that you may be able to see yourself moving via offline Maps data, just without directions. I'm curious and will try this when I drive home from work in a few mins.
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Yup, no directions only basic positioning
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Dillon610 said:
I saved the area I live in offline in Google Maps. Can I navigate within the area saved offline with GPS or do I need a data connection like WiFi or a tether from my phone?
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Yes you can, it won't be as accurate as GPS + wifi, but as long as you can see the sky, you should be okay!
(I used maps with no data connection in Geneva a few weeks ago!)
Navigation will give you an error definitively saying that it cannot work without a data connection.
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There's another thread on this. I've tried it. As long as you set up your route while you have wifi and you are within maps you downloaded, navigation will work fine. The only "issue" I've found is that if you make a wrong turn, while it is trying to reroute you it will only tell you where to turn, not say the actual street name.
So it's not perfect, but it works.
what about if you try a different gps app?
darkleafar said:
what about if you try a different gps app?
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Stand alone navigation app work just fine such as "co-pilot"....etc
Anyone know how to get gps working on this without Wifi? Or a way we can download maps that work in google nav?
Envain said:
Anyone know how to get gps working on this without Wifi? Or a way we can download maps that work in google nav?
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I believe that you are required to have a wifi/data connection to use google navigation. You can cache that maps manually but I think this only provides you with the maps themselves, not navigation.
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I believe that you are required to have a wifi/data connection to use google navigation. You can cache that maps manually but I think this only provides you with the maps themselves, not navigation.
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Yeah been trying out the cache and that's really disappointing i was hoping to use it in my dash. they don't make it clear on their site that its required to have a data connection.
GPS works fine without WiFi. If you want to use navigation, start your route where u have a wifi connection. Or you can use a different app that has offline navigation
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For offline navigation I suggest navigon
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Problem with starting my route with wifi is for work i move around a lot from client to client, not always having a hotspot..that being said i was hoping to use this device without having to tether but it looks like for me thats my only option.
Envain said:
Problem with starting my route with wifi is for work i move around a lot from client to client, not always having a hotspot..that being said i was hoping to use this device without having to tether but it looks like for me thats my only option.
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Yes, for now, that would be one of your only options. Another option tho, use a different navigation app.
I keep reading everywhere that i should keep my gps off because it drains the battery very quick but im a little confused, if it turn it off then doing stuff like sharing my location on facebook, twitter, foursquare wouldnt work? if i make a check in foursquare for example it wont work if i have my gps off? or they use internet to track my location? can these applications turn on the gps by themselves or i have to turn it on by myself everytime?
In reality how much battery would be drained if i leave the gps on all the time?
Also i'm confused by google services i think they're a little redundant: Google navigation and google maps? can't you do the same "navigation" with google maps ? you can get into google navigation inside google maps but there's still a shortcut for navigation What's the difference?
Also you have local but it uses google maps and then you have latitude and earth which is basically the same but with a wrold map .
Can anyone enlighten me?
Chad_Petree said:
I keep reading everywhere that i should keep my gps off because it drains the battery very quick but im a little confused, if it turn it off then doing stuff like sharing my location on facebook, twitter, foursquare wouldnt work? if i make a check in foursquare for example it wont work if i have my gps off? or they use internet to track my location? can these applications turn on the gps by themselves or i have to turn it on by myself everytime?
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Locations can be determined from networks (either cell towers or wifi networks), just not as accurately or quickly.
Chad_Petree said:
Also i'm confused by google services i think they're a little redundant: Google navigation and google maps? can't you do the same "navigation" with google maps ? you can get into google navigation inside google maps but there's still a shortcut for navigation What's the difference?
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Navigation navigates. Sounds obvious, but it is different than just maps. Navigate gives turn-by-turn navigation. Maps is just maps. It finds stuff... including your location. And can show you a path from point A to point B.
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Also you have local but it uses google maps and then you have latitude and earth which is basically the same but with a wrold map .
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I thought latitude was more of a social check-in app.
I am no expert and am new to android, so someone may be better at explaining things.
Chris
Apps can't turn GPS on without asking you first / sending you to the settings to enable it. Like cmalinowski said, it still has ways of figuring out your general location.
Latitude is a social thing. I'm pretty sure about four people use it, all Google employees.
For navigation I use waze, and I used to use Foursquare instead of latitude.
Regarding your question, you must have the location services ON, in order to have all the features.
cmalinowski said:
Locations can be determined from networks (either cell towers or wifi networks), just not as accurately or quickly.
Navigation navigates. Sounds obvious, but it is different than just maps. Navigate gives turn-by-turn navigation. Maps is just maps. It finds stuff... including your location. And can show you a path from point A to point B.
I thought latitude was more of a social check-in app.
I am no expert and am new to android, so someone may be better at explaining things.
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Yeah for sure the location when i use just 3g is not very accurate, it says i'm in places like 2 km away
Navigations works only by car and by foot, no bus or subway directions right?
So a good example of how to use google services is use the maps to get the directions: lets say you take the subway and when you get off and start walking you switch to navigation so you know in which street/alley should you cross, right?
Ok so latitude is sort of a foursquare then?
calanizzle said:
For navigation I use waze, and I used to use Foursquare instead of latitude.
Regarding your question, you must have the location services ON, in order to have all the features.
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Yes i have the location services on but its kinda worthless because if you have the gps off they dont work at all or just work poorly
Ajfink said:
Apps can't turn GPS on without asking you first / sending you to the settings to enable it. Like cmalinowski said, it still has ways of figuring out your general location.
Latitude is a social thing. I'm pretty sure about four people use it, all Google employees.
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Poor google, its a shame , just like google+, very pretty but no one uses it
i never turn my gps off. the big savings in battery is keeping the screen brightness down. the screen is so good that i can keep mine almost all the way down and it is still pretty bright.
I honestly don't think you have to worry about gps on off or other options... I have everything enabled, and i mean everything, all the time - and my battery easily lasts a day under moderate usage.
when im heavy using it, I admit i throw it on the usb charger to pc at work. but if i dont it will be around 6-10% by the evening.
it's irrelevant for me because i do charge it every night. ultra small price to pay for vast functionality that the phone offers.
they designed it in a way that if an app is not calling it then GPS is turned off automatically. there is really no reason (now) to keep GPS off. just leave it on and let Android decide if it is needed.
and the battery drain from Navigating with public transportation would leave the phone dead in an hour.
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wngmv said:
they designed it in a way that if an app is not calling it then GPS is turned off automatically. there is really no reason (now) to keep GPS off. just leave it on and let Android decide if it is needed.
and the battery drain from Navigating with public transportation would leave the phone dead in an hour.
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Ok i will keep my gps on then , yeah the battery MELTS with maps and/or navigation :crying:
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As attach,google maps use too much battery-----I had not use maps ..
Go into Google maps settings into location and uncheck all options in there and ensure that it isn't reporting your location.
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much thanks，I'll try this
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tsongwh said:
much thanks，I'll try this
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press the thanks button instead report back with findings
If you don't use maps at all, freeze with TB
calanizzle said:
If you don't use maps at all, freeze with TB
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And when you do use maps.... it's a hassle. If you have maps set up properly, it shouldn't even be using any battery life at all unless you turn the app on and actually start using it.
With your theory, you should freeze all apps you don't use? Doesn't make any logical sense.
I've got a similar issue with my battery usage. Comparing the maps usages on my N4 to my Photon, and on my N4, the usage is 10%, keep awake is 40m and the gps is 6m, and CPU is 8m.
For my Photon, the usage is 2%, the keep awake is 2h and the cpu total is 2m.
I do have CM10 on my Photon and still stock on my N4, but the behavior does seem odd. The N4 has much more usage
for me, unchecking location reporting did not fully do the trick. what you need to do is make sure maps does not autostart and cause wakelocks which decrease your battery life substantially. to do this, download an app called "autostarts" from the play store and disable all maps autostarts by sorting the autostart processes by app. this will not allow maps to autostart and use increased battery, but you will still be able to open maps normally and use it to its full extent
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zephiK said:
And when you do use maps.... it's a hassle. If you have maps set up properly, it shouldn't even be using any battery life at all unless you turn the app on and actually start using it.
With your theory, you should freeze all apps you don't use? Doesn't make any logical sense.
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Exactly it doesn't make much sense.
The usual issue is Google will periodically use Maps to get a GPS fix and Wi-Fi list to update it's own Wi-Fi to Location database. Saves them driving around with cars all the time and getting complaints about privacy I suppose :cyclops: Often it is this background updating of Google Wi-Fi locations that continually pop Google Maps into the battery list even if we never use it between charges.
There is now an easy to use global setting to quickly disable Google Maps from doing this, this is under Settings - Accounts - Google - Location, flick the switch here to off, now Google applications can not poll for locations or do background updates, however other applications can still use GPS and request a location.
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Phil
sorry for bumping this but quite recently my maps app has been consuming battery more than my wifi, it's comparable with OP's photo. Now here is the thing, I already had this problem before and I solved it by disabling location reporting and stuff, but a few days ago it suddenly began to consume battery as if i had reenabled the location reporting stuff. I have used a app called wakeup detector to try and find whats wrong and this is what I'm getting. I hope someone can help.
Download "Greenify" if you're rooted.
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