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X10 gps question

Hello guys, yesterday i used the maps and it said i need to turn my 3g on i usually have it off. And when i press navigate it said i need to enable gps and i did. So my question is doesnt gps run without 3g or internet on other phones? And also i wana know does it use data?

because google maps requires an internet connection...

I all depends on which application you use for navigation.
Short answer:
Check with the software instrucions / help files to see how it behaves and works.
Long answer:
Some map software's have all the map data you need for your region already packed with it.
Advantage: No data need to be downloaded within the region, fast, works offline.
Disadvantage: Tricky to update the maps and often charge you for additional regions. Takes up space on the device.
Other apps download maps on the go as you navigate.
Advantage: Always the latest maps as you navigate. Takes less space on the device. Disadvantage: slow or even non-functional with poor or no data connection.
Google maps and Google navigation are of the latter one. They downloads maps as you navigate. therefor it is a good idea to have a data-plan with your provider so no additional expenses comes to.
They are free to use, so if you already have a data-plan with your provider, it's practically free.
On the X10, there are one application included by Sony Ericsson on most X10 sold out there: Wisepilot.
Wisepilot are the kind where you buy maps and download them into your phone, once this is done, it will use little or none of your data-connection.
I'm not sure, but I think Wisepilot are the kind that can be used offline once maps are bought and downloaded.
It can use the data-connection to download additional information such as "speed limit cameras", "spots of interest" and so on.

Try Mapdroid
This app downloads the MAP files when internet is available and can be used offline also with GPS activated..... try this, this is da best app

To US and Canadian Users
hey, when you use google navigation, will you be able to use the voice guidance??? I am having troubles to use the voice guidance...not sure how to activate it....

Having to buy the maps and such for wisepilot.. I wish there was a better solution for GPS on the x10. I wouldn't mind using it, but not necessary.

You can use GPS without 3G. I can even get a lock with my phone in airport mode and inside a cement building. When I say cement I mean cement, the floor, walls, and ceiling are all cement (hurricane proof). It is the third (top) floor however.

GPS software on x10
Currently I installed Navigon, Ndrive, MotoNave and Copilot 8 on my x10i with various world maps and all fully functional without 3g or network connection, direct data from satellite in orbit with the phone inbuild GPS receiver. Why you may ask? Because I can. How you may ask? The answers is out there! I am giving you the knowledge , now go and find your answers.
X10 is an Awsome device.

Another solution is to use the Brut Google Maps mod. It allows you to view previously viewed maps from the SD card. It saves the Google maps cache to your SD, but the only downside is that you have to view all of the places you want to travel on at all zoom levels.
If anyone needs it, I have the majority of Menorca done at all zoom levels......

I tend to use google navigation, the best bit of this is when you have your route downloaded and the voice guidance starts, you can then switch off your 3g and it still routes you. Obviously if you take a wrong turn it won't be able to download a new route until you switch 3g back on, but hey
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Wow really.. so I can use my phone's gps rather than my car's and I DON"T need 3g?? that's sweet..
Only too bad I don't know how to install any other GPS on my phone... I'm such a noob. Back to my magellans GPS .. ool
Anyone willing to go through the process with me ? haha

twentybenson said:
I tend to use google navigation, the best bit of this is when you have your route downloaded and the voice guidance starts, you can then switch off your 3g and it still routes you. Obviously if you take a wrong turn it won't be able to download a new route until you switch 3g back on, but hey
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do you mind to share how you activate the voice guidance??? I am having troubles activating this in my google navigation....

Sighx said:
Wow really.. so I can use my phone's gps rather than my car's and I DON"T need 3g?? that's sweet..
Only too bad I don't know how to install any other GPS on my phone... I'm such a noob. Back to my magellans GPS .. ool
Anyone willing to go through the process with me ? haha
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Use Google, i have Sygic with France, Spain, Andorra and Portugal maps up to date, included shops, hotels, restaurants, radars...
I repeat, use google and you will find out

oXunknownXo said:
Use Google, i have Sygic with France, Spain, Andorra and Portugal maps up to date, included shops, hotels, restaurants, radars...
I repeat, use google and you will find out
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I have searched Google. I live in Canada so I would need North American maps.. ha.. but however, I still don't get the installation process. I am not very computer literate as many of you guys are ):

njfpolyr6 said:
To US and Canadian Users
hey, when you use google navigation, will you be able to use the voice guidance??? I am having troubles to use the voice guidance...not sure how to activate it....
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It automatically did it on mine. On google map, tap on Direction. When you enter direction it will ask you to activate GPS (if not already activated).

RumpleStealthSkin said:
It automatically did it on mine. On google map, tap on Direction. When you enter direction it will ask you to activate GPS (if not already activated).
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the google navigation works fine, just there is no voice guidance... It only has the "beep" sound when it is about to change in direction (like make left/right turn, stay in the lane, or heading out to the exit) So I am wondering how to make it with turn by turn with voice guidance turn on...

iHim said:
Currently I installed Navigon, Ndrive, MotoNave and Copilot 8 on my x10i with various world maps and all fully functional without 3g or network connection, direct data from satellite in orbit with the phone inbuild GPS receiver. Why you may ask? Because I can. How you may ask? The answers is out there! I am giving you the knowledge , now go and find your answers.
X10 is an Awsome device.
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what nav app did u like the most out of those? i currently have motonav, its great but button presses are somewhat laggy. what do u reccomend?
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njfpolyr6 said:
the google navigation works fine, just there is no voice guidance... It only has the "beep" sound when it is about to change in direction (like make left/right turn, stay in the lane, or heading out to the exit) So I am wondering how to make it with turn by turn with voice guidance turn on...
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Try going to your phone Settings/Speech Synthesis/Install voice data...
If that doesn't work the I've no idea
Good luck!
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I like em all but the one I find myself using the most is Copilot 8 and yes you are right, button presses are laggy on Motonav. I travel all over the world with my job so these GPA apps are very handy to have on a single device.
Best device for my needs. Great apps, awesome GPS, great camera, storage space (16GB), 3G & wifi and movies.

twentybenson said:
Try going to your phone Settings/Speech Synthesis/Install voice data...
If that doesn't work the I've no idea
Good luck!
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Looks like i am out of luck. the "install voice data" optioned was dimmed out, and i wont be able to install it.....

[Q] Offline GPS Navigation App

Anyone know if such a program exists and specifically for car navigation (unlike the offroad one currently on the market)? Kinda like Microsoft Streets & Trips but for Android. I am hoping to use my Xoom as a offline GPS since it is Wifi only model.

There are several. The cheapest is CoPilot. I have it as a backup for when I don't have data. The US only version is normally $4.99 (but I got it on sale for $2.99). I find it OK, but I prefer Google Maps Navigation.
Another is Navigon (it's quite a bit more expensive). A market seach should turn up some more.
Don't forget that Google Maps Navigation will cache the map and route for you . So you can start Navigating while you are in a WiFi hotspot and it will cache all of the maps to finish your navigation. Of course, if you get too far off route then you will have a problem.

rlrbjr said:
There are several. The cheapest is CoPilot. I have it as a backup for when I don't have data. The US only version is normally $4.99 (but I got it on sale for $2.99). I find it OK, but I prefer Google Maps Navigation.
Another is Navigon (it's quite a bit more expensive). A market seach should turn up some more.
Don't forget that Google Maps Navigation will cache the map and route for you . So you can start Navigating while you are in a WiFi hotspot and it will cache all of the maps to finish your navigation. Of course, if you get too far off route then you will have a problem.
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Yeah that's kinda what I'm worried about. I need this to be a 100% offline app with full stored maps. Also obviously to be compatible with the Xoom.

which phone do you have, you could enable your wifi hotspot using your 3G network. (I do it on my desire Z/G2)

PlinXoom said:
which phone do you have, you could enable your wifi hotspot using your 3G network. (I do it on my desire Z/G2)
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I have a Blackberry and has no option for Wifi or Bluetooth tethering. I can only do Dial-Up Networking but android doesn't support it as a client.

Have you tried Aura Sygic? if it works on XOOM and Honeycomb?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sygic.aura&feature=search_result
And you can find it for free on a site for Pirates.
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bd85 said:
Have you tried Aura Sygic? if it works on XOOM and Honeycomb?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sygic.aura&feature=search_result
And you can find it for free on a site for Pirates.
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I used Sygic back when I had a WinMo. Was a good app. I'll check this out.

Found several apps:
Aura GPS Navigation
MobileNavigator USA
Locus Free
CoPilot Live USA
NavDroyd
Anyone try any of these and know which works with the Xoom?

[Q] GPS

I can't seem to get GPS working on my new LG GT540 (Android 2.1) Any help is appreciated Thanks

Which GPS software are you using?

martin255 said:
Which GPS software are you using?
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I've just discovered that you need to access the Google map data (and therefore to have paid the mobile network provider). It worked fine after making the first payment. My bad

aleksand said:
I've just discovered that you need to access the Google map data (and therefore to have paid the mobile network provider). It worked fine after making the first payment. My bad
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Don't bother with that. Just get iGO. It has built-in maps for many countries(Eu, USA,Asia etc...), voice navigation, everything like a real GPS!

martin255 said:
Don't bother with that. Just get iGO. It has built-in maps for many countries(Eu, USA,Asia etc...), voice navigation, everything like a real GPS!
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I wouldn't recommend built-in data can become outdated. Any navigation app that has a satellite view in addition to map data would be the best choice. You can use an app like Locust to download the data and store it via wifi before you leave home.

Igo works fine on my 540

martin255 said:
Don't bother with that. Just get iGO. It has built-in maps for many countries(Eu, USA,Asia etc...), voice navigation, everything like a real GPS!
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Sygic Aura is better
and it works on 2.3

[Q] Can the Nexus 7 navigate without a full data connection?

I saved the area I live in offline in Google Maps. Can I navigate within the area saved offline with GPS or do I need a data connection like WiFi or a tether from my phone?
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Dillon610 said:
I saved the area I live in offline in Google Maps. Can I navigate within the area saved offline with GPS or do I need a data connection like WiFi or a tether from my phone?
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My understanding is that the directional data comes from the Google's servers, so I don't think this will work. I have not actually tried, but I imagine that since it has a GPS, that you may be able to see yourself moving via offline Maps data, just without directions. I'm curious and will try this when I drive home from work in a few mins.

nickmv said:
My understanding is that the directional data comes from the Google's servers, so I don't think this will work. I have not actually tried, but I imagine that since it has a GPS, that you may be able to see yourself moving via offline Maps data, just without directions. I'm curious and will try this when I drive home from work in a few mins.
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Yup, no directions only basic positioning
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Dillon610 said:
I saved the area I live in offline in Google Maps. Can I navigate within the area saved offline with GPS or do I need a data connection like WiFi or a tether from my phone?
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Yes you can, it won't be as accurate as GPS + wifi, but as long as you can see the sky, you should be okay!
(I used maps with no data connection in Geneva a few weeks ago!)

Navigation will give you an error definitively saying that it cannot work without a data connection.
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There's another thread on this. I've tried it. As long as you set up your route while you have wifi and you are within maps you downloaded, navigation will work fine. The only "issue" I've found is that if you make a wrong turn, while it is trying to reroute you it will only tell you where to turn, not say the actual street name.
So it's not perfect, but it works.

what about if you try a different gps app?

darkleafar said:
what about if you try a different gps app?
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Stand alone navigation app work just fine such as "co-pilot"....etc

Offline GPS Maps Eonon

HI i have a eonon HU and would like to install offline maps app what is everyone using?

I would like to have Sygic, but it doesnt seem to work properly on this head unit.
Here maps is the alternative

tariqkhan.co.uk said:
I would like to have Sygic, but it doesnt seem to work properly on this head unit.
Here maps is the alternative
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Sygic works just fine on my head-unit?

I use Here maps from nokia, really cool in offline navigation.

Supr said:
Sygic works just fine on my head-unit?
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I have a Eonon head unit and every time I try running Sygic, all the settings reset and it tries to redownload data, so not really usable for me.

I have an Eonon GA2114 and Sygic works fine for me although I also find that it can start messing things up once connected to the internet sometimes.
The way I have it set up is all the maps are saved on my SD card so I dont use any data and you can then use an app to block Sygic access to the internet to avoid it messing anything up.

dc5daft said:
I have an Eonon GA2114 and Sygic works fine for me
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Really? I have the exact same unit!
I really don't understand what the issue is then?
Have you made any MODS that are worth bragging about?
If you haven't change the dpi yet; that is one MOD you need to do. I'm sure you've realised that the available screen space is not good. This gives you a 1024x768 type resolution, but you will need to override this for certain builtin apps like the Radio for example.

I must have updated my post just after you quoted me haha, I added some extra info
I've not really got any special mods although at the moment I'm working on using Tasker and AutoRemote to have any SMS messages from my phone displayed on the headunit and also an option to reply.
I'll need to give that a go! What do you mean by having to override it for the builtin apps?

dc5daft said:
I must have updated my post just after you quoted me haha, I added some extra info
I've not really got any special mods although at the moment I'm working on using Tasker and AutoRemote to have any SMS messages from my phone displayed on the headunit and also an option to reply.
I'll need to give that a go! What do you mean by having to override it for the builtin apps?
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I didn't realise you have updated the post, I always have internet in the car so that must be causing issues; I did try reinstalling a few time, but got tired of downloading all the required files/map every time I reinstall.
Here maps is the best alternative that I've found, but I just stick to Google Maps as it as free traffic info too.
Built-in apps don't seem to be developed to cater for larger screens/resolution. So, the layout goes a bit messy, overcame this by using Xposed framework to apply the higher dpi setting to those particular apps (no more than 5)

tariqkhan.co.uk said:
I have a Eonon head unit and every time I try running Sygic, all the settings reset and it tries to redownload data, so not really usable for me.
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dc5daft said:
I have an Eonon GA2114 and Sygic works fine for me although I also find that it can start messing things up once connected to the internet sometimes.
The way I have it set up is all the maps are saved on my SD card so I dont use any data and you can then use an app to block Sygic access to the internet to avoid it messing anything up.
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If youre using Xposed; try changing your IMEI into the same as your phone IMEI for example, I think this would solve the problem for you two both as Sygic checks over internet your IMEI for a valid (phone) IMEI. I had the same problem, but Sygic works perfect for me now. See the post below for the details. Good luck!
i.draskovic said:
I have found solution how to make Sygic to work on ours devices.
It is wery easy and it finaly works for me, and I would like to share it with others. You can make it in two steps.
First of all you have to install rooted ROM. I have install update_4_4_4_RK3066_1024X600_7_MAL_14_05_2015.rar
You can find rooted rom for your device on this link https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxmzvLRI7-eNeVA2SWkwM1pLZ28&usp=sharing#listv
When you done you have to install Xposed IMEI Changer. You can find it at Google Play Store and start the app. Xposed Installer will prompt up and you have to give permissions to IMEI Changer and to install Framework if you did not already.
Than yo have to open IMEI changer and copy IMEI code from your smartphone. (I have HTC M7 and IMEI code you can find in Settings-Info-Tlefon identity.
After that you have to reboot device and open IMEI changer to see is it new IMEI applied.
If it is, than you have to go to Google Play Store, install Sygic and download maps.
Result you can see on attached image.
I hope that it will work for others.
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How do you find Google maps data wise, does it use a lot? I had really liked the look of the live traffic feature of Sygic but I would need to be online obviously and that would mess up my maps etc. I had thought about using just Google Maps for traffic as well since its free but worried about how much data it would use with the navigation of it always on (suppose I could download an offline section but think they are quite small areas )
Thanks for that, will need to give it a go

Supr said:
If youre using Xposed; try changing your IMEI into the same as your phone IMEI for example, I think this would solve the problem for you two both as Sygic checks over internet your IMEI for a valid (phone) IMEI. I had the same problem, but Sygic works perfect for me now. See the post below for the details. Good luck!
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I've installed IMEI Changer and this works great; a little silly that the orginal IMEI number doesn't even follow the correct format which was maybe the cause of the internet linking issues.
Will try reinstalling Sygic later and hopefully would have made a difference.
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dc5daft said:
How do you find Google maps data wise, does it use a lot? I had really liked the look of the live traffic feature of Sygic but I would need to be online obviously and that would mess up my maps etc. I had thought about using just Google Maps for traffic as well since its free but worried about how much data it would use with the navigation of it always on (suppose I could download an offline section but think they are quite small areas )
Thanks for that, will need to give it a go
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I have unlimited data so have never really looked into data usage; but I can say that it is not only traffic data you will be receiving but it would also be download map tiles. Downloading offline map data for Google is OK, I have tried it, but as you have already mentioned; you can only download small areas and these do expire after a month (I believe?).
My main issue with Google Maps is the non-existence of speed camera detection, which is why I used to use Sygic. It is now a trade off between traffic/cameras?!?!?!?!?

I have a GA2114 as well. However I can't download the HERE offline maps. It just says waiting to download and then says it's slow. Any issues with you guys? I'm running the latest Malaysk ROM.

luniz7 said:
I have a GA2114 as well. However I can't download the HERE offline maps. It just says waiting to download and then says it's slow. Any issues with you guys? I'm running the latest Malaysk ROM.
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Nope, although I am using the stock ROM.
Have you tried downloading the map/data on a PC then moving to the appropriate location on your head unit?

tariqkhan.co.uk said:
Nope, although I am using the stock ROM.
Have you tried downloading the map/data on a PC then moving to the appropriate location on your head unit?
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I have not. I was not aware that I could download the map data on a pc and it would work in android. I could try it though.

luniz7 said:
I have not. I was not aware that I could download the map data on a pc and it would work in android. I could try it though.
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Yep, there is a Sygic Map Downloader application that someone has created. Very simple to use and you can choose the required maps and it will download it with the required data.
You shouldn't have a problem finding this application if you look in the usual/common places people go for downloads.
If you have trouble finding it though, give me a shout and I can point you in the right direction via a pm.

Off line navigation
tariqkhan.co.uk said:
I would like to have Sygic, but it doesnt seem to work properly on this head unit.
Here maps is the alternative
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I have the AG2114. I use Copilot and it works wonderfully. I bought the usa full version for I think $9.95.

I prefer Sygic and I have got it working. Just change your system IMEI number to match you phone. Works a treat. Sygic also warns of speed cameras, sharp bends, speeding and all sorts vocally.

tariqkhan.co.uk said:
Built-in apps don't seem to be developed to cater for larger screens/resolution. So, the layout goes a bit messy, overcame this by using Xposed framework to apply the higher dpi setting to those particular apps (no more than 5)
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Would you be so kind as to say for which apps you've changed the dpi and what you've changed it to and how? Which Xposed module? AppOps or something else? I've noticed several things that are just way too large to fit properly and even Nova launcher can barely change anything which was a first.
Also, if you have a custom recovery, which one?
I've only rooted, put Viper4Android, Xposed and IMEI Changer on so far. As for navigation Waze seems a popular option for those not dead set on Sygic like I am since I have world wide license already and a major reason I bought this damn thing in the first place (GA5153F). Bummer is that if one goes for the Car Navigation app over the regular one it's bye bye Snoop Dog directions but overwise it seems better laid out. Now I'm tearing my hair out trying to get the E1750 3G modem to work. There's not even a Mobile Networks setting in the menu. Maybe this kinda stuff is why people flock to custom roms which I might at a later date but I digress...

Sygic seems to work on mine but no voices it's not muted