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MODS: No, please don't close this yet. This is not a "Best ROM" thread in my opinion. I've tried my fair share of ROM's, I'm just curious what ROM people prefer and what kind of aspects of a ROM people prefer. Same for kernels. So it's not about finding the best, it's about what people like, and why. It interests me. Still don't agree? Well then we have different opinions and you can close the thread.
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SO, back to the thread. The title says it all. If you would choose a ROM and kernel for daily use, what would you use? Would you pick X because it's easy to use, has great battery life and a minimal design, is built with the Samsung framework etc? Or would you pick Y because you can fiddle with things, it has lots of special apps and is incredibly stable, is based on AOSP/AOPK, etc?
I'm just curious about your preferences, type away!
DO NOT START ARGUMENTS! You are inherently wrong for starting one because people stating a preference can't be wrong for having that preference. So if you start an argument, you're by default an idiot. Don't be an idiot. It's simple.
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slaphead20 said:
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Why are you like that... Don't be so negative man. I know what kind of ROM and kernel I need and I download+edit my ROMs/kernels accordingly. If I change my opinion, I change my kernel/ROM.
Ok then, me for example:
I bought my new SGSIII and first flashed the very popular Siyah kernel. However, I don't like being mainstream Then I used Speedmod for a while because it's a very stable and battery saving kernel, but I was missing the tweaks and OC/UV. It's also based on pegasusq while I prefer lulzactiveq. Now I'm trying Perseus, still seeing what I can do with that.
As a ROM I'm using DarkyROM, but it's a bit too heavy for my liking. I'm going to use VikingWay since that's very light, and I'll see what happens. I've also got Complex-D lined up for testing. I don't really use AOSP ROMs because I love Sammy's camera and agenda software (yeah I really do like them ) and I can't use those on AOSP ROMs.
Rom preference threads never end well.
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OMG this again?
When will people learn?
Crdroid is just a great rom loads of customisations.
Perseus kernel is a goos choice for my performance and battery life.
Good idea with this thread
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any ideas here guys? i really wanna flash a custom rom, but which one is currently the best?
italia0101 said:
any ideas here guys? i really wanna flash a custom rom, but which one is currently the best?
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It really depends what you're looking for in a ROM. There are a lot of different ROMs that are currently available depending on what you want. Whether it's a stock feel (AOSP ROMs), customizability (AOKP, PA), CM10 of course, and more. I highly doubt anyone has tried all of the ROMs that are out there so go into the dev sections and do some reading and see what you like! :good:
Really too subjective of a question to ask. "Best" is the ROM that contains everything you're looking for.
The best custom ROM for me is CM 10.1's nightly builds. The best custom Kernel for me is franco.Kernel. Both together = awesome (for me)
Thanks guys . I realise its a subjective view but thanks for replying
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Whatever ROM you choose, I second using Franco kernel :good:
I've been running a CM10.1 nightly with no custom kernel, its been pretty solid. I might have to check out Franco's kernel though, I'd like to try out undervolting for better battery life and heat at some point.
brGabriel said:
Really too subjective of a question to ask. "Best" is the ROM that contains everything you're looking for.
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I've always understood this, but never really knew where to look. Is there some place that has a list of all the kernels and ROM projects and what their goals are. User reviews would be pretty handy as well.
As others have stated, this is very subjective. For example, I'd recommend AOKP. Not because it's the best per se, but because it's the one I'm using and I'm quite happy with it.
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Is there some place that has a list of all the kernels and ROM projects and what their goals are. User reviews would be pretty handy as well.
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There is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
brGabriel said:
This is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
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Hey I was considering using this combo and I just wanted to know if the native OTG support still functions after you flash the franco.kernel?
dust. said:
Hey I was considering using this combo and I just wanted to know if the native OTG support still functions after you flash the franco.kernel?
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I honestly couldn't tell you since I don't own an OTG cable but you can flash franco's kernel and test it. If it doesn't work just reflash the ROM (without wiping) and you'll revert to the original kernel without losing any of your apps and data.
brGabriel said:
There is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
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What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
Pharmbob said:
What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
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Personal preference. Nothing more
Pharmbob said:
What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
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Seems to be by far the best kernel for dealing with the throttling issue that exists with our device so far...
Installed aokp . loving it.
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At this point, I've gotta give it to AOKP. Lots of customizability and very smooth and quick. Rotating 180 degrees has no noticeable lag for me.
Paranoid Android is one of my all time favs in order to maximize your tablet space by altering app DPIs etc (not that you need to with a tablet this large). MMuzzy's ROM is a nice AOSP replacement which is what I'm on currently. As far as kernels go, it's really up to personal preference. I'm on KTManta (ktoonservative) and it flies though sometimes I get the lockscreen (black) of death - not waking up from lockscreen. I bought Franco's app ages ago before I got a tablet and can vouch that he also builds a strong/stable kernel.
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If anyones interested i made a AOKP video http://youtu.be/VNxdhF-nvec
To all the devs.
First off, would like to compliment you on the great work you do, and putting in all the tme and effort for developing your roms.
I would please like to request, if you are interested, to develop a PURE AOSP ROM, either kitkat or lollipop, like you get on stock Nexus.
I think a lot of people would be interested in experiencing the stock Nexus look and feel.
I am adding a poll, so for all those interested please vote.
i can't see the point at all .......
you have CM11 (the last nightly is good ) ......and then CM12 .
Cyanogenmod is already "simple" and enought "pure" with lots of interestings things , really not difficult to understand why this rom work...........and very ergonomic !!!
CM is not like others customs with all theirs "frills" like Pie ,omniswitch ,exotics personalizations ......more or less useless for a standard use .
=> with that , i really don't think at all that a dev want to "spend energy" to make a "poor" AOSP pure ... and too many peoples are really not interrested by this sort of rom
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i can't see the point at all .......
you have CM11 (the last nightly is good ) ......and then CM12 .
Cyanogenmod is already "simple" and enought "pure" with lots of interestings things , really not difficult to understand why this rom work...........and very ergonomic !!!
CM is not like others customs with all theirs "frills" like Pie ,omniswitch ,exotics personalizations ......more or less useless for a standard use .
=> with that , i really don't think at all that a dev want to "spend energy" to make a "poor" AOSP pure ... and too many peoples are really not interrested by this sort of rom
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Dont know why but has just always interested me. And Im too uneducated and dont have the resources to build myself. Pure aosp has just look interesting to me.
I second this , i would love to see a pure AOSP rom.
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To all the devs.
First off, would like to compliment you on the great work you do, and putting in all the tme and effort for developing your roms.
I would please like to request, if you are interested, to develop a PURE AOSP ROM, either kitkat or lollipop, like you get on stock Nexus.
I think a lot of people would be interested in experiencing the stock Nexus look and feel.
I am adding a poll, so for all those interested please vote.
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A pure AOSP is a pain in the ass ( u have to pick to many patch from caf), a CAF version will be easy or CAF based too like DU, SLIM
Miccia said:
A pure AOSP is a pain in the ass ( u have to pick to many patch from caf), a CAF version will be easy or CAF based too like DU, SLIM
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personally think it would be worth it though to truly use android at its purest (no bloat, slowdowns or crap). and people who do want some customisations on this rom the xposed framework is available to lollipop now.
To be honest I prefer TW to AOSP am I the only one?
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To be honest I prefer TW to AOSP am I the only one?
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NO. I love twiz too, as it gives me best gaming performance and battery life.
sasank360 said:
NO. I love twiz too, as it gives me best gaming performance and battery life.
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I thought TouchWiz is a "heavy" ROM compared to CM. How does it give performance for gaming?
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TiTAN-O-One said:
I thought TouchWiz is a "heavy" ROM compared to CM. How does it give performance for gaming?
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Well, that is the case atleast on my s4 mini. The thing is i do not always run my s4 mini @ full 1.7 ghz
While gaming on stock rom i set cpu @ 1.3 or 1.2 ghz and plays it just fine. I play subway surfers, dead trigger 2 and asphalt 8.
All run smoothly @ low graphix settings. But on custom roms like cm I have to set cpu @ 1.4-1.5 GHz for same fluidity and
obviously battery drains a little quicker.
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Well, that is the case atleast on my s4 mini. The thing is i do not always run my s4 mini @ full 1.7 ghz
While gaming on stock rom i set cpu @ 1.3 or 1.2 ghz and plays it just fine. I play subway surfers, dead trigger 2 and asphalt 8.
All run smoothly @ low graphix settings. But on custom roms like cm I have to set cpu @ 1.4-1.5 GHz for same fluidity and
obviously battery drains a little quicker.
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Rly? I played Subway Surfers and Asphalt 8 (lowest graphix) @ 810mhz UV and its rly smooth as heck on RR Lollipop
On stock ROM I noticed battery drain and heating issues compared to cusroms
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Hey guys, first post on the XDA forums so I'm hoping i don't duck this up or post in the wrong sub-forum.
I'm looking for the best gaming/performance centered ROM available for the Samsung S4 -i9505. I've used THOR for a while, but moved onto WizCyan to test it out and I had the same lingering feeling of a lack of RAM that caused stuttering in-game, especially with WizCyan. I'd like to ask what you guys use for gaming/your daily driver and how good it is performance-wise. The most intensive stuff I do on the phone is usually NFS No Limits on High-Medium graphics settings. I'd love to get some community input on what is valued as a primarily performance centered ROM. If said ROM also had a feature or way to switch to a more battery centered mode,that'd be fantastic too but I understand if such a unicorn does not exist. Any and all input is appreciated, thank you!
Side Note: I have read some of the suggested threads, but they're all quite old and lots of ROMs have been created and updated, so I wanted to see what the scene is like now.
If you're looking for gaming performance, an AOSP-based ROM such as the ROMs from JDCTeam is probably best. The ROMs you've tried, while they all have had much of the annoying software from Samsung stripped out of them, all have the Touchwiz skin still applied, which has been demonstrably proven to have a negative effect on performance.
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If you're looking for gaming performance, an AOSP-based ROM such as the ROMs from JDCTeam is probably best. The ROMs you've tried, while they all have had much of the annoying software from Samsung stripped out of them, all have the Touchwiz skin still applied, which has been demonstrably proven to have a negative effect on performance.
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Thank you for the reply! I'll definitely check out some of the JDC team releases, hopefully Shark Jungle has some reviews on them. Have you tested any? If so, which one did you prefer most? Thanks again for the advice!
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Thank you for the reply! I'll definitely check out some of the JDC team releases, hopefully Shark Jungle has some reviews on them. Have you tested any? If so, which one did you prefer most? Thanks again for the advice!
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Yes, Shark Jungle did test some. But he thinks TouchWiz ROMs have better gaming performance than CM or AOSP ROMs.
I would take that with a grain of salt, but it's up to you to decide.
Anyway, there aren't many JDCTeam ROMs, it's just Android versions that differ. The main branches are Optimized CM and AOSP.
I would recommend the AOSP branch, as it seems generally faster than CM. It may be because AOSP is less cluttered, while CM has lots of CM stuff that may bog down the ROM.
JDCTeam ROMs come bundled with a custom kernel. It has 5 predefined profiles, ranging from extreme battery to extreme performance (that's the profile names). The extreme performance profile is almost the same as setting your CPU Governor to Performance. You get the same speed, but with the advantage of your CPU not being stuck on the max frequency.
And then there's Slim ROMs. Similar to the AOSP described above, minus the custom kernel. But you can use Kernel Adiutor to adjust some of the stock kernel settings and create a performance profile similar to the one found in the JDCTeam kernel.
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Yes, Shark Jungle did test some. But he thinks TouchWiz ROMs have better gaming performance than CM or AOSP ROMs.
I would take that with a grain of salt, but it's up to you to decide.
Anyway, there aren't many JDCTeam ROMs, it's just Android versions that differ. The main branches are Optimized CM and AOSP.
I would recommend the AOSP branch, as it seems generally faster than CM. It may be because AOSP is less cluttered, while CM has lots of CM stuff that may bog down the ROM.
JDCTeam ROMs come bundled with a custom kernel. It has 5 predefined profiles, ranging from extreme battery to extreme performance (that's the profile names). The extreme performance profile is almost the same as setting your CPU Governor to Performance. You get the same speed, but with the advantage of your CPU not being stuck on the max frequency.
And then there's Slim ROMs. Similar to the AOSP described above, minus the custom kernel. But you can use Kernel Adiutor to adjust some of the stock kernel settings and create a performance profile similar to the one found in the JDCTeam kernel.
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Thank you for your help mate! I went AOSP, the RAM availability is great. After switching to F2FS boot times and game loadup times are also incredibly fast. NFS Gameplay is smooth too. Thanks for everything!
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Thank you for your help mate! I went AOSP, the RAM availability is great. After switching to F2FS boot times and game loadup times are also incredibly fast. NFS Gameplay is smooth too. Thanks for everything!
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I would be careful with F2FS. I had data loss while using that format. And random phone wipes, including internal storage.
This happened only occasionally during a reboot.
If you don't reboot very often, chances are lower of it happening, but there still is a small risk.
Hi guys which Rom is good for gaming Thor or wizcyan? Thx
Neither, as Touchwiz affects gaming performance.
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Neither, as Touchwiz affects gaming performance.
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Which rom do you prefere for me?
Read the thread.
Hello, i am rooted with stock rom 4.5.10.
Can anyone suggest me a good kernel that could help with the performance of the device. or should i stick with the stock one.
Depends on your usage. If U want a even better performance is ElementalX a good one. Easy flashing process with AROMA options (ability to overclock)!
No such thing as best, just flash a few and see what you feel brings you the best performance
Hi, i am in the same case of you, i have flashed "simpleGX 1.11 kernel" to have performance and a really good battery life. And yes, it is very smooth and i stay 3 days with my battery charge..! for me it is a very good kernel for the moment. i think to try blue spark kernel but for the moment i am happy with SimpleGX kernel...
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Hi, i am in the same case of you, i have flashed "simpleGX 1.11 kernel" to have performance and a really good battery life. And yes, it is very smooth and i stay 3 days with my battery charge..! for me it is a very good kernel for the moment. i think to try blue spark kernel but for the moment i am happy with SimpleGX kernel...
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3days?? may be very light to moderate use?
Blu Spark is designed for performance. Boeffla for stability and Franco to extend battery life. Usually kernels are designed to provide something different than the stock kernel and the description at the top of the thread for the kernel should give you an idea of what the dev was trying to do. I honestly wouldn't recommend ElementalEx. It's a very vanilla kernel that is available for almost every device but they don't do much to optimize the kernel for individual phones. I use Blu Spark. Personally I think you are better off with kernels that are made for stock OOS.
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3days?? may be very light to moderate use?
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most 2 days and 20 hours of battery... with 6hours of screen time..
rickysidhu_ said:
No such thing as best, just flash a few and see what you feel brings you the best performance
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worst answer ever.
I did unlock/root/flash roms on 30-35 devices, for friends/family and myself.
And even if XDA members do not like ''best rom/kernel'' threads, its very usefull for a quick search, because i.e. my friend want simply a stable rom and I don't want to test every roms or read the thread's 200 pages.
Wihout pointing the ''best rom/kernel'' you might maybe help by pointing the cons and pros .
Here my reply for this thread :
After reading the Franco XDA interview, he was pointing the fact that there's not much work to do on kernel in general, because they are out-of-the box already good.
My first device was a desireZ, with froyo 2.2, back in the days, kernel works was badass, and make huge changes to the devices, but now, I agree that there's not much difference, at least for now, since this OP5 is crazy fast.
I do use Franco kernel, as per Franco's thread, he's stating better battery life. well, hard to tell , since he won't achieve 125% better battery life... It might go around 10%. Which is good, but hard to tell on day to day usage, since 10% is about my usgae precision time if I compare all my usage over each days.
So far so good, no cons.
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worst answer ever.
I did unlock/root/flash roms on 30-35 devices, for friends/family and myself.
And even if XDA members do not like ''best rom/kernel'' threads, its very usefull for a quick search, because i.e. my friend want simply a stable rom and I don't want to test every roms or read the thread's 200 pages.
Wihout pointing the ''best rom/kernel'' you might maybe help by pointing the cons and pros .
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Worst answer ever? I'll admit I could have shared my setup for OP to try as well, but other than that, "worst answer ever" is a bit dramatic.
XDA members don't like the "best ROM/Kernel" threads because of my original point, there really isn't a 'best', it is subjective to your needs/usage. A kernel I find to be an absolute beast in performance can end up being mediocre at best to you. And again, that all boils down to each user's unique usage.
Telling a user what works best for you isn't going to be as good as the user trying it out for themselves; getting that first-hand experience with a certain kernel will give that user a much better idea, and that's why I said flash a few and see what they like best (no need to flash every single one or read through 200 pages...).
Like I said, I admit I could have shared my ROM/Kernel combo originally to give OP a starting point, but that doesn't take away from my main point(s).
Anyway, I don't mean to get into a whole debate about this with you, a handful of users have already responded and hopefully OP has found a kernel they prefer.
For what it's worth, I've used both Lightning and Blu_Spark, both have provided me with excellent performance and battery life (On PureFusion).