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Cm6 pros and cons?

I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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There are a lot of opinions about this subject. There are some real pro's to CM6. The tricky thing for most people to understand is that Cyanogenmod is built from the ground up. So when you say you want something that isn't too different, this is going to probably be more unique than you were expecting.
Some great things about CM6 are hidden all throughout the settings, menus, and functions. For example, CM6 is alot cleaner. There aren't any processes that run in the background that you never installed. Whenever you use a stock rom, HTC and Sprint have a number of pre-installed items running. The result is that it is faster.
One huge advantage for me is that CM6 fixes the bluetooth in the phone. Which means that you can connect a Wiimote. This isn't possible with anything that is a variation of the stock rom. Which means only CM6 or other AOSP roms will be capable of supporting the Wiimote on the Evo.
The Cyanogen team has put more focus into things like the way the audio is processed. They use DSP managers to fine tune your audio.
There are some unique settings you can use as well. For example, by holding the back button, you kill whatever app is in the foreground. This eliminates the need for task killers, and lets you truly close an app when you want to.
The biggest pro for most people is that it is substantially faster. This makes games, and other resource heavy apps run smoother. If you use something like PSX4DROID (a playstation emulator), I would recommend this rom because you can use the Wii Controller, and the games will run smoother.
Overall, it's an engineering marvel, because it's built completely by open source developers. These are guys that all have day jobs and do this as a hobby, and in many ways, they do a better job than Google and HTC who have armies of full time developers. That's why they get so much support. Is because it's truly astounding what they do with their resources.

So this might be the blind leading the blind, but I'm a noob as well when it comes to ROM flashing stuff.. From what little you have mentioned CM6 isn't what you want. CM6 is very good but it is not SenseUI, by default it does not have swype, it does not do 4g, hdmi is not there and I'm sure there are other things... That being said, from what I have read, CM is very good for what it is...
If you want to stay relatively stock but with some tweaks, you likely want to look at Fresh or Myn.. do a search in the XDA evo-->android dev forum (actually usually the main thread for those 2 are on page 1 or 2)..
I have settled on Fresh because it uses the latest Sprint rom as its basis so you get most of the new stuff out of the box ie. swype.
Myn has a beta out there using the new rom, but I don't know where it is to download and I am not a good beta tester so I will just wait..
From a process perspective, I downloaded Rom manager from the Marketplace, flashed the latest Clockwork recovery and used the rom manager to download fresh and let it install it for me.. Be sure to check mark the clean everything checkbox in rom manager when it asks..
Hope that helps...
jc8081 said:
I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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I think I'm gonna go with Cm6 just bc it seems like they have plenty of features. But what do u mean not hdmi? Like not even pictures and videos?
Also can someone give me a link to how to install them.. Thanks
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bradleyw801 already did a good job of the Pros, so I'll list the Cons of CM6 (there aren't many):
1. It's the hardest of the ROMs to flash. Reads laughable but to someone who is really new to this whole thing, it's true. Most ROMs you can just flash and tryout. CM6 you need to flash twice: once for CM itself and once for the Google Apps (it's pretty useless without the gapps). ROM Manager makes this pretty painless with a simple checkbox, so follow above advice, but still be aware you need GAPPS.
2. No 4G Support. Yet. That's the keyword, as there are a few devs on this very forum who are runningCM with 4G .... it's just in alpha stages.
3. No HDMI Support. Yet. Again keyword ... but less so. HDMI out is one of those things you hear about every so often but nothing ever surfaces from it. It's like Duke Nukem Forever.
4. For all the Sense bashing that some will do, HTC had some very nice widgets that most people miss when they go to CM. Most notable is the big clock widget. Now there are market apps that emulate it, but the only ones that do a good job of it cost money (beautiful widgets and fancy widgets pro). Be ready to look for apps to replace what came shipped with your EVO if there are some things you like and would rather not be without.
Hope that helps.

Ok now Cm6 doesn't sound great. I actually use my hdmi, are there any roms easy to flash.. i just want one that makes my phone smoother and also so unneeded apps don't run in the background?
Bc mine now is getting slow like when I open my messeges and are going from person to person it takes forever. Thanks again
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jc8081 said:
I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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Well, now that you are rooted it would be a perfect time to get used to making backups and flashing.
You could try making a nand bacckup and flashing CM6(.1.2) and seeing how well it suits you. Like any (or most) ROMs there are themes and you can mess around with different things to make it more to your liking. CM6 is as stock Android as you can get. I don't necessarily dislike Sense, and some of the Sense widgets are really cool (and are for the most part replaceable) but in the end I like the feeling of just plain Android.
The lack of 4G and HDMI out is more of a personal user thing. I haven't missed my 4G and I've been using CM6 for my Evo for almost the whole damn time, since it was first released that is. HDMI never really interested me before, but full UI out is something else entirely. Before it was just hype to me.
CyanogenMod just feels right on the Evo. Best way to decide is to take the plunge and maybe set it up for a day. Restoring a backup is super simple. Take the necessary steps to flash successfully and check it out.
And as for things being deleted off the SD card; not sure if you mean everything or specific things. Things like SMS, call logs etc are not backed up but YOU can back them up in various manners. Some SMS backup apps or what have you which I've never tried. Call log I assume as well. Email and things like that, which are tied to your Google Account are backed up by "The Cloud" or whatever you want to say, and same goes for contacts if you've obviously synced them with your google account. Like, contacts under phone can be synced with google account that way the phone contacts aren't deleted, unless I have that last part wrong.
You can wipe the SD card completely, but that doesn't really happen when you wipe data, cache and dalvik. Just the important stuff so the ROM takes. Check it!
edit: didn't hit submit right away, late post as it seems your not really feeling it. you can remove bloat apps that you don't see fit in ROMs, things that someone might have not removed themselves (even then removed apps are usually available at your discretion) but not all apps can be removed. There are lists about that have "safe to remove apps" and the like.

try it for yourself, if it doesn't do what you need it to, flash another ROM. pretty much any AOSP based ROM has issues with wimax and HDMI but there are many strong ROM's to run, you will probably change it up from time to time and the hardest thing you will find is trying not to flash

You really should try out roms for yourself instead of listening to others. Some people like some things and others like others. I've run CM on 2 phones now (MyTouch Slide and G2) and it's been extremely stable, fast and just fantastic. If it had wimax and hdmi working i'd have it right now (I like watching hulu on my big screen while I eat ).
If you want something that has everything working, myn's warm twopointtwo rom works if you have the older Evo hardware (pre-0004). It's very nice and still runs sense or mikfroyo, which also has sense, but it supports the new evos.
If you want vanilla android and can wait for the wimax and hdmi, get CM, there's just no alternatives. If you can't wait, go to the dev section and look for the threads that start with [rom] and see if any of them suit you better.

Fwiw...I'm a total noob to the android scene. I'm fairly tech savvy, good in general with pc's, hacking tivo's, etc..nonetheless I was very hesitant to root and flash my evo. But, I took three plunge last night, first rooting, then performing a nand backup. I then uninstalled all the sprint apps successfully. I was fairly happy at this point.but I have been experiencing random reboots and sense crashes prior to rooting. So I took the plunge and flashed cm6.1 and gapps last night.
I have to say I wish I had to done this months ago, I love the look, feel,and performance of cm / stock android. I struggled with battery life before flashing, but there is a significant improvement in batt life since ive flashed. I also installed swype beta,as I had received an invite just prior to sprint including swype. Im bummed about the lack of 4g, but 4g is hit and miss in the south bay so I cant complain too much. Oh ya, wifi tether is an added bonus.
I say go for it. ;-)

Well the biggest con is that you can't use 4g or hdmi, which defeats the purpose of buying the evo and paying $10 fee for 4g. Not to mention the fact that stock android looks like a 3rd rate Linux distro from early 2000s.
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so me running cm6 defeats the purpose of me owning my phone????
I dont live in a 4g area......4g is only really advantage when tethering to a laptop

Ok guys thanks for everything but i really need a link so i can figure out how to backup and flash and rom...
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jc8081 said:
Ok guys thanks for everything but i really need a link so i can figure out how to backup and flash and rom...
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Sure. First sticky at the top of the forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881747
The stickies are pretty comprehensive for the EVO. Pretty much anything you'll want to know will be there.
As for CM6. It's super fast. I love it. I don't mind being without 4G (at least when I'm not testing ) and HDMI (I use Twonky Media Server to stream pics and vids to my Xbox over wifi).
Both of these features are coming soon so if you decide to go with another ROM, just keep following CM for updates on these features. When they are done I don't see why you wouldn't use CM.
As for alternative roms... I know Myns is very popular.
Also, I'll note, you can always flash CM6 and play with it for a bit and then wipe and flash any other rom.
tl;dr - Read the sticky, try myns and follow CM progress.

You might want to take a look at MIUI. It's well designed (unlike Sense), is pretty fast (faster than Sense), and has a ton of extra features (like Sense). While it doesn't have WiMax right now the CM guys are close to getting it working; and since both are based on AOSP, it will be relatively easy to port to MIUI. I prefer CM but if I didn't have a iPhone (since MIUI tends to feel like a copy of it) I'd probably use MIUI.

If you can live without 4g then go for it. The battery life is great. I flashed a sense rom today and with in an hour I was flashing back to cm6.
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Ok thanks now one last question I think... when I do nandroid backup does it save my apps? Bc i was watching a video it said u have to nandroid backup and apps with titanium I think...
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bottom line: try a few ROMs, each for a day, and stick with what you like. no substitute for trying it out yourself.
fine print: i'm a vintage user. I was running android on my Vogue before there was an android phone, when GPS would always place you in san fransisco (someone will know what that's all about - thanks dzo). anyways, having a rooted phone is about many things, but one of them is the ability to flash and try what you want.
if you've got a deal breaker, like 4g or HDMI out, sure that limits you now, but as posted before keep reading and trying new things as they come out. if you're lucky, you may yet become a flash-aholic.
i'm a sense guy; not for the launcher (off and on i'm running adw, lp, and sense home, depends on the month), but for the sense apps. I love the sense messaging app, that's the program I use most on my phone. I ran vanilla for a long time on my vogue, and I tried out CM6 for a day. it's just not me. and I never use 4G or HDMI. you won't know what fits you until you try, though.
to each their own. use what you like.

I use to be a die hard CM fan but now Im using MIUI. Both have a lot of nice features.

Titanium Backup will allow you to backup apps selectively and then reinstall them later. (you can do many other things as well) This is very useful, especially for apps that you can not easily obtain. (ie. not available in the app store) An example is any game from GameLoft or a beta that you may have. (like Swype before it was deployed) So after you switch to CM6 or whichever ROM you can then load these apps on to the new ROM.

Feedback about some custom ROMs I tried after rooting [Legend]

Hi there,
After managing to root my recent Legend (HBOOT 1.01 / OTA 2.2) using Blay0's manual I started trying...
Cyanogen 6.1: too "Gothic" for me (might be because it's my first Android phone and I kinda got hooked to sense / clean looks) Seems to be very tweakable though...
B 0.7: WiFi didn't work (sort of known issue which is mentioned there, but I didn't try the proposed solution, since I wanted to try other ROMs first
Modaco r4: ok, nothing special
YogenTouch: most beautiful and smooth one around, though 2 showstoppers for me: no choice of standard languages (especially chinese pinyin input) and G-sensor doesn't work [EDIT 2011-02-20: apparently a patch was released to make the G-sensor work]. Actually when I read about nu4a-yt1 I liked the feature set even more (get rid of facebook crap etc.), but without solving the showstoppers I'll first look on.
@moderators: could I please get permission to post to that thread (this one), it's kind of frustrating that I have real input here which could help making these ROMs better, but I have no way of providing my feedback (just because I don't have 10 posts yet). Thanks!
To be updated....
Cheers

UPDATE:
been using this one FroYo | Mdj Droid L2.1.110210 | with HTC Sense | Base 3.18.751.2 | App2SD+ for a bit more than a week now, without issues. It's quite similar to a stock HTC Sense Froyo ROM from a looks/functionality point of view.
When I find the time though, I plan to make an own ROM, mainly inspired by YogenTouch but without social apps (a bit like nYT) but with more languages.

Hey Penguin,
Nice of you to join us
But before you post such thread, think about the real contribution, not that it isn't appreciated, but you're mixing apples and oranges here, comparing Sense and nonSense ROMS, Eclair with Froyo...
It would be nice to clear what's what first ...
Oh and by the way B0.7 wifi works just fine for me...

Agree about the frustration not being able to contribute to the development forum. There's a few things I've learned along the way and there have been a couple of occasions where I reckon I could have helped a poster.
To add my 20c worth, I'm really happy with BlaYo's ROM, everything works the way it should and there's some cool stuff which brings it to another level - I'm especially liking the extra battery life I'm getting with his kernel and SetCPU.
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It should not be a biggie, right? You're just 7 posts away

Hey you're right, I should stay positive... 6 now...

Thanks for your welcome;-)
I guess what got me to try that YogenTouch was that it said "espresso 2.2" on the package, which suggested froyo. Anyway, it is mainly the graphics design which appeals to me. (speed might be higher, though I'm quite ok with FroYo too.)
I guess I'll have another go at B0.7, wait for 0.8 or bake my own (though too busy lately)
oh,btw, about the apples and oranges... that was actually intended, because it is actually the first thing anyone new to android and without having experienced the freedom of a rooted phone before would want to try. (which "style" is best for me, sense, stock, clean, tweaks, ...)
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nDAF 1.7.5
It's been a while...
Ok, I have gone to BlaY0 0.7 since, which I'm positive about.
Then I noticed Blay0's mention of nDAF in the B 0.7 thread, just what I was looking for. (I like anti-social android )
So I've been a happy nDAF 1.7.5 user for 3 weeks now, I can highly recommend it!
Just recently discovered 1 glitch: account sync doesn't seem to do anything! Pressing the button "sync all" has no effect whatsoever. Logcat doesn't seem to output anything related either. Going to my google account and pressing "sync now" also does nothing.
Any ideas?

The account sync problem went away by itself. (I had wiped cache and rebooted before without effect, but it seems the problem went away after my last reboot, though I didn't do anything special)
I guess I'll remain happy with nDAF until I find time to make my own ROM (or if B 0.8 will have very compelling reasons)
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b.0.7 seems great... u have to flash the patch for wifi issues....
right now i'm on cm7 rc4 and experiencing a new world on legend... but for daily use b.0.7 is a nice choice from my point of view...
and if u want a sense-free froyo rom superbler is the best choice

Long due update:
Thumbs up for BlaY0's 0.8.4!
Did a clean install (wiped all and got a new sd card while at it, with ext partition according to BlaY0's partitioning guide for a2sd) and restored with titanium backup).
I'm getting better battery life (1 long day and still around 30% left with normal use).
Had to use the wifi patch to make wireless work (and stock font patch for comfortable reading).
Highly recommended! Thanks to BlaY0 for the ROM and Ogo2 for his useful mods!
Cheers
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Leedroid vs RCMixHD

Hi guys,
I have had my HD for a while now, and have been going back and forth with different roms and what not.
I settled for a Leeddroid HD Gingerbread Beta 4 rom (which works well).
And then I tried the RCmixHD rom (the most complete one as it says)
But I have a problem... when I use the RCmixHD rom, I keep losing signal...
why is that? any clues?

I strongly believe you have a radio issue. Try flashing the recommended radio of the rom. You can find out more in that thread

Yupp.. Different roms recommend different radios.. I experience that too..

Use Leedroid HD 3.0.0
Very nice!

jerrylzy +1.
Just flashed it and it's awesome, also flashed MDJ v6 kernel as Lee recommended, no lags or bugs for me now.
P.S. Never had lost signal issues with RcMix... Try re-flash radio.

Considering that the latest RCMixHD requires the radio found in the 2.16 generic gingerbread rom (or higher radio) that is probably the cause of the issues you're experiencing.
I've used all the major roms, but I found RCMixHD to be the best, but then I put together my own rom, with a lot of items borrowed from the RcMixHD, and CoreDroid, but changed a bunch of things and cleaned up the build.prop and code found in a few other files. nothing too major just a bit cleaner . There was a lot of unneccessary repetition in the build.prop's of the other roms.
JSLDr0iD 4G v1.01 ( driphter.com/index.php?topic=3884.0 )
This is mainly for the North American DHD (Telus DHD/AT&T Inspire 4G and hsupa is enabled) but it works for the euro/asian dhd's as well
The main version is OC's with MDJ V series kernel, but there is a verison with the stock kernel available.
Download is hosted on our server (Driphter.com) and is a fast download as well.
Sorry, but I cant post a direct link until my 8th reply (kinda lame but I guess its tp prevent bots from spamming the forum), so you're going to have to copy and paste into the address bar.

I just flashes the Leedroid 3.0 and I am fully stisfied. I have no signal issues whatsoever. Additionally, i put in the Sense 3.0 lockscreen (unfortunately I'm still not able to customize it or to find out if it is possible ^^)
I was ob Revolution HHD Beta 4 Gingersense before, wich was awesome too. Then I switched to leedroid. 2.3. for overclocking.

would like to know something about this aswell

using the latest leedroid, but I just saw the RCMixHD 6, should I change? Can't be bothered to flash unless it's worth it ha.

tuckerson said:
using the latest leedroid, but I just saw the RCMixHD 6, should I change? Can't be bothered to flash unless it's worth it ha.
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The latest batch of RCMixHD v6 has quite a few issues (caused by the sense 3.0 items), mail doesnt work, scene picker doesnt download new scenes properly, and 'skins' does not function at all.
you may want to hold off until the issues (which is more than just the 3 listed) are fixed.

JSLEnterprises said:
The latest batch of RCMixHD v6 has quite a few issues (caused by the sense 3.0 items), mail doesnt work, scene picker doesnt download new scenes properly, and 'skins' does not function at all.
you may want to hold off until the issues (which is more than just the 3 listed) are fixed.
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Mail works just fine for me now, version 6.1.0.1
What would you recommend for RCmix? As i'm getting some pretty poor mobile data and GPS signals, wifi is fine, never use bt, but the MD and GPS are pants on my current radio which was superb on the 5.9.7 rom from RCMix.
Any ideas? Oh and to the original question about rc mix or leedroid, it all depends on what you want, personally i prefer rcmix, i've used them since i had a hero when it first came out, they're a good team and make great roms, but to be honest most of the devs on xda and villain are good eggs so like i said it's all down to you and what you want.

Rcmix seems to be more bleeding edge while leedroid is more stable.
In fact the only issue I've encountered with leedroid is stocks app crashing but I usually remove that app anyway.
Sent from my Gingerbread loaded Desire HD.

well using leedroid you do get rcmix crt and things, even it is not credited properly

But the lack of sense 3.0 stuff in leedroid does make it more stable. For people that need their phones to be stable and dont have the time to flash a new rom every day or two.
Capy, even though I love the RCMixHD Rom with where its headed, its something that I can put on the backburner, in regards to use. Even Leedroid has issues that needs to be fixed, there's just not as many at the moment.
I'm still using the stock 2.36, rooted with gingerbreak, as I continue work on my ROM based on it. Did you get my pm regarding the build.prop?

well i am redoing the whole rom, trying to make it different, but i dont know i am getting a bit sick of alot of requests from peopel to do their work so they can release things, and many doesn't credit, and roms popping up all over, so kinda feel maybe it is time for new device dunno yet

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well i am redoing the whole rom, trying to make it different, but i dont know i am getting a bit sick of alot of requests from peopel to do their work so they can release things, and many doesn't credit, and roms popping up all over, so kinda feel maybe it is time for new device dunno yet
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Well, I'm simply working on cleaning up htc's code, I dont want to add anything as of yet, other than keeping the power screen from your Rom (that functionality is too much of necessity which I'm surprised isn't part of the official builds). Though progress is slow as I'm finalising v5.1's of my blackberry hybrids. Cheers capy.

well right now i am working on a pure clean port of kingdom instead

I'm pretty sure you could use items from Rider as well

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Use Leedroid HD 3.0.0
Very nice!
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+1
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Maybe you need to use the recommended radio specifically for each rom, they might be different ?

Just Purchased G2 need advice/tips

I'm new to the whole smartphone/android market. I just received a G2 and wanted to know how to fully take advantage of all the features. What do you guys recommend, what apps should I download, updates, etc.
Thanks

Take a look around, you'll find everything around here. One thing is don't feel pressured to root your phone. Especially with the ota update to gingerbread on it's way.
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Take a look around, you'll find everything around here. One thing is don't feel pressured to root your phone. Especially with the ota update to gingerbread on it's way.
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Will do what is the benefit of rooting a phone. Do you get apps for free similar to jailbreaking?

Alright so here we go!
For root you want This Guide with Gefree/Visionary Read it several times, get root.
Install Rom Manager, Flash Clockwork Mod with this.
Good launchers to try are: Launcher Pro, ADW.
Good Apps are: GPS Status, Quadrant Free, Set Cpu (paid), Juice Defender, Adgree, Juice Plotter, SeePu, Shootme (for screengrabs), Wifi Analyser (to see strength of various wifi networks), Barcode Scanner (for QR Codes among others), Speetest, and lastly AdFree. You also should consider getting the Busybox Installer and Titanium Backup so you can back your applications up when you inevitably....
...Install a custom rom. There are a ton of roms to choose from. All of them have various merits and downsides. Personally for the beginner I always suggest CM 6.1.1 to get familiar with the idea of custom roms as it is super stable and not a huge departure from stock Froyo. A good rule of thumb when flashing roms is to (after making a nandroid backup in clockwork mod, accessed by pwr+vol down) always do a full wipe of phone data and cache. So many rom installs are messed up by not fully wiping your phone prior. I always run two full wipes and two cache wipes.
Depending on how you like your interface, you can select a ton of different roms through Rom Manager or downloading them right out of our android dev section. As with all things, always do your research. Read the damn thread to find out any bugs. The devs here are not infallible and frankly, some of them do a darn shoddy job in throwing together whatever the hell it is they want to call a rom over the weekend while absolutely trashed on Milwaukee's Beast.
Prospective roms are:
Virtuous 2.1: A clean SenseUI rom that is very predictable in battery life and sense experience.
Virtuous G-Free: A stripped down Gingerbread rom built by the same gentleman as Virtuous.
Virtuous 3.0 Sense: A sense 3.0 port that hasn't been updated in a while. Who knows if it is any good.
Cyanogen Mod 6: A nice retooling of froyo 2.2.x, this rom is incredibly stable and has very good battery life with preshoots kernel.
Cyanogen Mod 7: This is a retooling of Gingerbread 2.3.x, not as stable in my experience, however I know this will get better. Okay battery life, 7.0.3 is not as **** as 7.0. Wait till the next major update of 7.1 drops before flashing this rom.
I cannot speak for any of the other roms out here. I only say that you should always do your research and make sure to do nandroid backups. If you brick your phone, that really sucks cause the g2 kicks all sorts of ass
Edit; ROOT ACCESS MEANS ADMIN ACCESS. ROOT DRIVE MEANS THE BASE DIRECTORY OF YOUR SD CARD. DON'T **** IT UP OKAY.

Pump Fake said:
Will do what is the benefit of rooting a phone. Do you get apps for free similar to jailbreaking?
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One of the biggest features is overclocking. TAKE YOUR TIME reading though. My Desire Z is on the way but I've spent the past two weeks scoping out ROMs, learning how to root and use ADB just so I can do all of that as soon as I get the phone. I would definitely root though, and as soon as the official gingerbread ROM comes, someone on XDA will make a rooted version of it. So you will essentially have stock gingerbread with the ability to overclock.

slapshot30 said:
One of the biggest features is overclocking. TAKE YOUR TIME reading though. My Desire Z is on the way but I've spent the past two weeks scoping out ROMs, learning how to root and use ADB just so I can do all of that as soon as I get the phone. I would definitely root though, and as soon as the official gingerbread ROM comes, someone on XDA will make a rooted version of it. So you will essentially have stock gingerbread with the ability to overclock.
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You are totally a good example for others
I believe you will be successfull in rooting your coming DZ
Grtz

slapshot30 said:
One of the biggest features is overclocking. TAKE YOUR TIME reading though. My Desire Z is on the way but I've spent the past two weeks scoping out ROMs, learning how to root and use ADB just so I can do all of that as soon as I get the phone. I would definitely root though, and as soon as the official gingerbread ROM comes, someone on XDA will make a rooted version of it. So you will essentially have stock gingerbread with the ability to overclock.
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Btw their already is a rooted version of the final gingerbread rom. Just thought i'd throw that out there.
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IMO The best benefits to having a rooted device are
1) root-only apps like setcpu (but don't use this if the ROM/kernel has built-in cpu management), titanium backup (best backup app ever, hands down), themeing, etc
2) remove bloatware apps
3) custom ROM. think of it as a modified OS. they usually run faster, have little to no bloat, in most cases have better battery life, and have added functionality (cyanogenmod, especially)
without root, the best thing you can do is find great apps like home replacements aka launchers such as ADWLauncher (free version of the superior ADW Launcher EX), LauncherPro, etc
if you're new to Android you may not know that you can browse apps on your computer here https://market.android.com/ and whenever you click "install" it will automatically start downloading and installing on your phone!
a root method was mentioned previously, but I will have to recommend a different one considered to be the safest and most up to date by most.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
the whole wiki is a very good read. if you do root, read it thoroughly (multiple times if necessary) and learn how to join #g2root on IRC to get real-time chat support with other xda members

So rooting helps me have a device that has much better performance. Sounds great to me, I'll look into it.
Is there anyway to get free apps etc? Don't ever want to pay haha.
Also what other tips do you guys have to take advantage of a smartphone?

Word of advice: the xda forums heavily frown upon those who promote or even mention pirated apps. These forums are powered by developers who put in their time and effort for average-joe users like us to use, free of charge! Donations are encouraged when possible. If you spent hundreds of hours writing an app and working out the bugs, I don't think you'd like it if someone downloaded your paid app for free. I didn't mean for this to sound like a lecture but just think about it, and if you're still interested you'll have to look elsewhere, as distributing pirated apps is against the xda forum rules.
Also if you're new to smartphones, you probably realized with added functionality such as facebook, twitter, gmail, and syncing of EVERYTHING possible, your battery life not as good as before you had a smartphone. In general keep account syncing/internet usage below unnecessary levels to save on battery life, among other things

silverwind said:
You are totally a good example for others
I believe you will be successfull in rooting your coming DZ
Grtz
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Thanks I regularly try to do that with new phones so I don't have to ask a bunch of dumb questions or brick my phone.
And to xsteven77x (my multi-quote isn't behaving at the moment), I was not aware that a final GB rooted ROM was out... I thought they were only test ones. Would you mind posting a link to that?
EDIT: Is this the ROM you're talking about? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074852
It was leaked so how are they sure it's the final one?

If your going to root your phone and put a rom on it, HTCCLAY super cm7 v1.9 is my favorite. its smooth, lots of customization, and already has the set cpu thing built into it and had a good adjustable lockscreen. not to mention u can just keep putting new themes form theme chooser on it when u get bored instead of flashing a whole new rom. one prob with it though. it has trouble connecting sd card to computer so if and when u want to remove it you are going to have to restore to a previous back up of another rom or stock and then reapply the new rom. best of luck.

ethanj93 said:
If your going to root your phone and put a rom on it, HTCCLAY super cm7 v1.9 is my favorite. its smooth, lots of customization, and already has the set cpu thing built into it and had a good adjustable lockscreen. not to mention u can just keep putting new themes form theme chooser on it when u get bored instead of flashing a whole new rom. one prob with it though. it has trouble connecting sd card to computer so if and when u want to remove it you are going to have to restore to a previous back up of another rom or stock and then reapply the new rom. best of luck.
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Highly recommend meXdroid V4.1 rom. Fast, eye candy galore, and constant developer support and updating.
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astriaos said:
Edit; ROOT ACCESS MEANS ADMIN ACCESS. ROOT DRIVE MEANS THE BASE DIRECTORY OF YOUR SD CARD. DON'T **** IT UP OKAY.
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This made me LMAO!

I like mexdroid rom, its combined with CM7 and it has a lot of customizations in it.
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I am recommending to watch Virtuous Unity if you want to have HTC Sense 3.0. It's still being updated and fixed up from all the bugs, but I think the rom will be really good after the devs work the kinks out.

It's The Craziest Thing

Like an intelligent flashaholic, when I first rooted my phone, waaaaaaay back over 2 years ago, the firs thing I did was make a backup of my stock/rooted setup, then saved a copy on my computer. Every few months, I'll nandroid back, update any apps that need to be, then make a new, updated Backup.
Lately, I've been having a lot of problems with my phone, trying to run Jellybean ROMS, which has been a disaster. Even ruinning Kendall's Jellybread ROM, I have some issues with lagginess, occasional Force Closes, etc.
Yesterday morning, my phone was basically not usable, and not having time to play with anything because of work, I just flashed back to my stock/rooted ROM, updated it and have been running pure stock since. The weird thing is, it's the best my phone has run. Smooth, fast, everything working (Of course this is still Froyo, but still). It's just really ugly as hell, but it's amazing how smooth everything is.
OK, time to flash a ROM.....

HipKat said:
Like an intelligent flashaholic, when I first rooted my phone, waaaaaaay back over 2 years ago, the firs thing I did was make a backup of my stock/rooted setup, then saved a copy on my computer. Every few months, I'll nandroid back, update any apps that need to be, then make a new, updated Backup.
Lately, I've been having a lot of problems with my phone, trying to run Jellybean ROMS, which has been a disaster. Even ruinning Kendall's Jellybread ROM, I have some issues with lagginess, occasional Force Closes, etc.
Yesterday morning, my phone was basically not usable, and not having time to play with anything because of work, I just flashed back to my stock/rooted ROM, updated it and have been running pure stock since. The weird thing is, it's the best my phone has run. Smooth, fast, everything working (Of course this is still Froyo, but still). It's just really ugly as hell, but it's amazing how smooth everything is.
OK, time to flash a ROM.....
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Hey HK - If you end up liking Froyo, I have a Samsung Moment you can have..........

tkacer said:
Hey HK - If you end up liking Froyo, I have a Samsung Moment you can have..........
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Lmao
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tkacer said:
Hey HK - If you end up liking Froyo, I have a Samsung Moment you can have..........
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No thanks, I still have my old one lol
Hell, it still has my ROM on it, too (HipROM)

I think sprint gave me $25 for mine when i got my evo 2 years ago...
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You'd have to pay them $25 now!

tkacer said:
You'd have to pay them $25 now!
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Probably lol
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I think if the stock ROM wasn't so ugly, then we'd have no use for customized ROMs. It's one of those things that allows us geeks to shine...

You know I have never even seen the stock froyo rom. Evo had already upgraded to gingerbread by the time I got mine. Maybe you could let me try out your stock froyo rom? ROFLMFAO!!!!!!! Heck maybe someone out here has a cupcake or donught I could use also. Then we could have a retro rom.

jlmancuso said:
You know I have never even seen the stock froyo rom. Evo had already upgraded to gingerbread by the time I got mine. Maybe you could let me try out your stock froyo rom? ROFLMFAO!!!!!!! Heck maybe someone out here has a cupcake or donught I could use also. Then we could have a retro rom.
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If your hungry,i can send you a dozen.

Diablo I only want pre froyo. Did the evo have cupcake or doughnut?
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HipKat said:
Like an intelligent flashaholic, when I first rooted my phone, waaaaaaay back over 2 years ago, the firs thing I did was make a backup of my stock/rooted setup, then saved a copy on my computer. Every few months, I'll nandroid back, update any apps that need to be, then make a new, updated Backup.
Lately, I've been having a lot of problems with my phone, trying to run Jellybean ROMS, which has been a disaster. Even ruinning Kendall's Jellybread ROM, I have some issues with lagginess, occasional Force Closes, etc.
Yesterday morning, my phone was basically not usable, and not having time to play with anything because of work, I just flashed back to my stock/rooted ROM, updated it and have been running pure stock since. The weird thing is, it's the best my phone has run. Smooth, fast, everything working (Of course this is still Froyo, but still). It's just really ugly as hell, but it's amazing how smooth everything is.
OK, time to flash a ROM.....
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Hey hip, got a suggestion for your next flash.
Do your backup thing, wipe as usual, then flash rom.
Only this time before you reboot, push your log to sd. Then view it after everything is done...
Reason im saying this is mine would be fine then not...when I pulled the log fron recovery it actually showed that I had bad memory blocks an it was unable to repair/format/fix them..
Now my phone was and is usable still...but I cant flash all the roms. Only one that 100% worked was mazwoz.
So its just a thought bro, figured I'd share what I found. And without pulling the log I would have never seen it.
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I pull the log most of the time myself and I also have bad blocks in multiple partitions. I have yet to have it cause any issues with any of the roms I flash. Also can I help you take over the world?!! Love me some pinky and the brain.

jlmancuso said:
I pull the log most of the time myself and I also have bad blocks in multiple partitions. I have yet to have it cause any issues with any of the roms I flash. Also can I help you take over the world?!! Love me some pinky and the brain.
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Lol, sometimes I forget that signature is there cuz I cant see it on Tapatalk. One of the Nocturnal guys made that for me.
Anyway, the roms would mostly flash on my phone. But some just didn't. I was testing rom for soap, tronit, an shaggy an none booted for me but worked fine for others.
Then I flashed say jmz rom an it worked fine. I started to notice that things weren't working.
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cbucz24 said:
Hey hip, got a suggestion for your next flash.
Do your backup thing, wipe as usual, then flash rom.
Only this time before you reboot, push your log to sd. Then view it after everything is done...
Reason im saying this is mine would be fine then not...when I pulled the log fron recovery it actually showed that I had bad memory blocks an it was unable to repair/format/fix them..
Now my phone was and is usable still...but I cant flash all the roms. Only one that 100% worked was mazwoz.
So its just a thought bro, figured I'd share what I found. And without pulling the log I would have never seen it.
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Thanks. I was actually very concerned, but running the Hybrid MIUI we're releasing and it's fast as hell

Yes I mostly use the app so I don't get to see the cool signatures. Since I started doing the dev work I am on the PC more and must say there are a bunch of cool ones out now.
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I have a G1 running doughnut. I love that thing

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Thanks. I was actually very concerned, but running the Hybrid MIUI we're releasing and it's fast as hell
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Heck if you think it is fast now just wait I have a couple more tricks left to pull out my hat. You ever run an odexed miui? Yes I will release a first ever (that I know of) odexed miui rom. This thing is crazy fast and get this all the apps that I preinstall will also be odexed so it will rocket like you have never seen. Just stand back and be amazed at the fastest miui to ever grace the og evo!!

jlmancuso said:
Heck if you think it is fast now just wait I have a couple more tricks left to pull out my hat. You ever run an odexed miui? Yes I will release a first ever (that I know of) odexed miui rom. This thing is crazy fast and get this all the apps that I preinstall will also be odexed so it will rocket like you have never seen. Just stand back and be amazed at the fastest miui to ever grace the og evo!!
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Are MIUI mtz's universal or device specific?

I they are universal. I have some on my pc that i used on both the og and 3vo that my ex gf had.
FYI I dumped the preinstalled ics theme. So now any theme will install for the die hard miui user and the black ice mtz will be installed on the sdcard. The jb launcher is no longer default you can choose on boot which one you want. Now to get the ICS effect you go into settings themes and choose black ice. If you use the jb launcher you will need to go under launcher settings and reboot launcher. Now everything looks ics even the lockscreen.