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Notification LED

I'm noticing that the LED flashes only some of the time for things like Twitter and SMS. The notification bar has the update on it but the LED seems to not want to play ball.
Has anyone else experienced this or similar? I know the LED works because it shows when charging and when the battery was low it flashed. Specifically I use Touiteur and had the LED set to blue but even on the standard green it's hit and miss.
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Mine doesn't flash when I get email, but seems to work for SMS or missed calls.

I was hoping someone would make a thread about this, I never got around to making one!
Mine flashes for everything which is annoying!!! I get a lot of emails so is constantly flashing! I've tried going into Settings -> Display -> Notifications and deselecting everything except Missed Calls and SMS/MMS but made no difference!

i'm so used to Magic 8 colors... shame DHD has only orange and green
also it somehow tends to turn it off after a while being on.

I've sent an email to HTC to ask about it since it's a big issue to me. Notification sounds feel similarly hit and miss so I'm suspecting some trigger is being missed, possibly due to the new Sense UI. I'll post any reply I get.
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I've got two led's. One for the battery on the right of the speaker and one on the left behind the speaker. The left one is for notifications only n I must say I'm disappointed as its located being the speakers its not as visible as I would like it to be. Is there anyway to get the battery led to function as a notification led as its not covered so much more visible?

I've got a reply but nothing helpful. So far it seems they're willing to blame app compatibility. I've asked for information regarding any changes that have been made to the LED notification system on the Desire HD and now I wait for another reply.
I told them I had no such issues on two other Android phones and they seem to be implying that the apps are coded for specific phones when we all know apps are coded for an SDK version. To quote the part of the reply...
"All the functions/programs you mean are made for Nexus and G1/Dream most of the times, Desire and some other are similar enough for it to work. Cannot help you with third party software."
Pretty clear the guy doesn't have a clue about this so I'm hoping if I nag long enough he'll pass me on to someone with more knowledge.
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lefty83 said:
I've got two led's. One for the battery on the right of the speaker and one on the left behind the speaker. The left one is for notifications only n I must say I'm disappointed as its located being the speakers its not as visible as I would like it to be. Is there anyway to get the battery led to function as a notification led as its not covered so much more visible?
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I see two LEDs up top but charging uses the same LED as the notification system. The left one behind the grill. I haven't seen the second one light so it's probably the proximity sensor.
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i only see one led too (with two colors).
Dyonas tel HTC that even GMail (2.2 app) acts like that... and gmail.apk 2.2 aint made for g1!

Another really pointless reply from them.. in the initial contact I mentioned the camera being misaligned so that's what the first part is referring to. Here's the latest reply and below it is how I have just responded.
Dear <me>,
Since receiving your e-mail i have looked for any more known cases and was unsuccessful if you are concerned that this may cause issues i recommend that you take the device back to the retailer.
Regarding the LED,
We do not give developer support so i cannot help you with this.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number <not important>.
Sincerely,
Adrian
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Response to it from me..
Hi,
With regards to the LED notifications, I'm not asking for developer support or any support in fact. I'm simply trying to find out if HTC have changed the method for using them with the Desire HD. You said that programs are coded for specific phones and I'm sorry but that's not true. They are made for SDK versions, most going as far back as Android 1.6 for widest compatibility, so any changes in the programs affecting the LED notifications would show in ALL versions, not just the version shipping with the Desire HD.
This again points to either HTC changing something with the Desire HD or a programming bug with the Sense UI in some way. I realise this isn't an easy issue to look into but it is a very important one and while I appreciate you're trying your best, I will not let this issue drop until I get a more satisfactory answer.
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To me this is a very big deal because if you leave the phone for a few minutes and aren't close enough to hear an audio notification the LED is what I rely on. Missing notifications like this I might expect from a custom ROM but I haven't touched the phone in any way like that. I didn't see your reply in time to mention the GMail issue and I only have my experience to go on which is Twitter updates not always firing. You should raise a ticked too, the more we get raising the issue the better the chance they'll look into it.

i stop sending tickets to HTC last year... they never fix anything.
I rather find a perm root and put CM onto it!

Their latest and seemingly final reply seems to have something that may point to an answer. Unfortunately I lack the knowledge to check if it is of any use. The guy suggested any changes would be in the Kernel and linked me to the source code area. Is anyone able to look into the source code and see if there are changes to the notification LED system for the DHD? It's pointless not useful to ask app developers to look into it until we have something concrete to point at as a cause.

Dyonas said:
Their latest and seemingly final reply seems to have something that may point to an answer. Unfortunately I lack the knowledge to check if it is of any use. The guy suggested any changes would be in the Kernel and linked me to the source code area. Is anyone able to look into the source code and see if there are changes to the notification LED system for the DHD? It's pointless not useful to ask app developers to look into it until we have something concrete to point at as a cause.
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can you leave the code sample, please?
thanks

The source code? It's available on http://developer.htc.com to download.
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I asked Cyanogen about this and he thinks the lights driver he wrote for the G2 may work.
Being a basic user I have no idea how to try that out without instructions so... I've done the fact finding, who's going to help with this part?

My email LED notification has not been working properly, sometimes yes but mostly no.
Got email mid morning today, sound and LED worked. Left it in this state for several hours still okay. Just got another sound notification for the same previous email, how does that work
Think this is yet another bug....

I've now had this happen with the GMAIL app so I'm bugging them some more.
Would there be any point in posting in the development section to ask for help using the G2 lights driver from Cyanogen?
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I've also had GMail fail on LED notification and SMS! It seems to be random now. Coming from a WM6.5 defector I quietly smile to myself

I think I figured it out and if im right it's really stupid. I had two notifications earlier, one for Twitter and the other for e-mail (not gmail). The LED wasn't flashing for either. I opened Touiteur to view the updates thete which cleared that notification and straight away the LED began flashing for the e-mail alert.
Why one notification would disable the LED if it's already on I have no idea but the above has happened more than once now. There's an LED test on the phone which HTC had me test. It has other tests too for anyone curious.
Key this into the dialer.
*#*#DIAG#*#*
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Where can i find the test for the LED? Mine doesnt seem to flash for any alerts.

developing for the atrix LED notification light

Since the LED is not on every android phone, i guess the adroid sdk doesn't have anything to support it. however, there are some apps on the market that support it, and i want to know how hard would it be to code something...
i currently use a blackberry and indeed the light is extremely useful. I bought a program that will let me assign a different color (even multiple colors) to almost all events , even particular contacts!
if some dev has some insight i would love to read about it

franciscojavierleon said:
Since the LED is not on every android phone, i guess the adroid sdk doesn't have anything to support it. however, there are some apps on the market that support it, and i want to know how hard would it be to code something...
i currently use a blackberry and indeed the light is extremely useful. I bought a program that will let me assign a different color (even multiple colors) to almost all events , even particular contacts!
if some dev has some insight i would love to read about it
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i am very interested in this as well as i see it has multi color support as i have seen red, blue, purple green etc already... first step will be to get logs of the led getting lit for all colors and compare .... i am working on a variety of projects so if you would start with obtaining that i will look at logs and see where to go from there

Check out general forum. Sounds like the app called blink is what you want. There's a whole post about led for notifications.
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i know there are apps for it, but the ones i have seen aren't open source therefore i can't learn from them unless the devs are friendly enough (haven't asked)
and for what i have read, most if not all aren't fully compatible with the atrix yet (mixed report on the blink one)

franciscojavierleon said:
Since the LED is not on every android phone, i guess the adroid sdk doesn't have anything to support it. however, there are some apps on the market that support it, and i want to know how hard would it be to code something...
i currently use a blackberry and indeed the light is extremely useful. I bought a program that will let me assign a different color (even multiple colors) to almost all events , even particular contacts!
if some dev has some insight i would love to read about it
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The android SDK certainly supports the notification LED, if the hardware doesn't support it then it just ignores what the program tries to tell it about the led.
See this: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Notification.html#ledARGB

Light flow works with the Atrix and allows you to assign different colors to specific apps:
https://market.android.com/developer?pub=Rage+Consulting+Limited

andy2na said:
Light flow works with the Atrix and allows you to assign different colors to specific apps:
https://market.android.com/developer?pub=Rage+Consulting+Limited
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I would agree with that! I'm the author.
Yes the android sdk does support the notification color as s3gfault points out.
Motorola phones are one of the very few that actually implement the standard android notification method. It's all the other manufactureres that make general support difficult.

andrewpmoore said:
I would agree with that! I'm the author.
Yes the android sdk does support the notification color as s3gfault points out.
Motorola phones are one of the very few that actually implement the standard android notification method. It's all the other manufactureres that make general support difficult.
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Very good app. Thank you!

Ronaldo_9 said:
Very good app. Thank you!
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I agree.
I bought the full version and I am really happy with it.
No problems at all.

i think you all should try LEDme know.
it what we use on our HD2's
LED me know
sorry, jsut stopped by as im more than certainly getting a Atrix. so im reading up before i asked stupid questions lol

sal2708 said:
i think you all should try LEDme know.
it what we use on our HD2's
LED me know
sorry, jsut stopped by as im more than certainly getting a Atrix. so im reading up before i asked stupid questions lol
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last time i tried that it didnt actually work, only worked when you hit test.
regarding LED flow, is there a way to keep stock colour on apps and only change gmail?
reason is whatsapp has a nice light blue but colour option is led flow is different and there are loads of apps i dont have installed that are supported but would want allow system colour and not blue. ...if any of that made sense

This app does NOT work correctly on ATRIX it has problems with the LED, also, it cannot show a charging LED for the battery, it just fails. I have tried all I can find and guess what? none do what I want. If the battery is charging, it should be solid red, if its charged solid green, turn off when screen is ON unless its still plugged in. Also, low battery warning notification with sound you choose, when I did this the notification went off when the battery was fully charged and there was NO LED lit. I don't understand.

[Q] Air View broken in stock email app

So this is a weird little issue that started yesterday, same day I got my S4. Air View works fine for every app but the email app. Instead of the full text, I just see this chopped off little text bubble (see attachment). It happens on either of the two email accounts I have in the app, one exchange, one aol (yes, I am ashamed). Already tried to remove both the accounts, clear the app cache, clear app data, then re-add the accounts. Same thing. Wondering if anyone has seen this issue yet or if it's just me.
S4 is stock, no root, no nothing. Had already installed all apps and changed my launcher before the issue started. Can't think of anything off the top of my head that I changed directly before I noticed the problem. Any help would be appreciated, I get a lot of emails and would love to have this working again.

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So this is a weird little issue that started yesterday, same day I got my S4. Air View works fine for every app but the email app. Instead of the full text, I just see this chopped off little text bubble (see attachment). It happens on either of the two email accounts I have in the app, one exchange, one aol (yes, I am ashamed). Already tried to remove both the accounts, clear the app cache, clear app data, then re-add the accounts. Same thing. Wondering if anyone has seen this issue yet or if it's just me.
S4 is stock, no root, no nothing. Had already installed all apps and changed my launcher before the issue started. Can't think of anything off the top of my head that I changed directly before I noticed the problem. Any help would be appreciated, I get a lot of emails and would love to have this working again.
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it took a bit of time to get used to.....have you try to disable and reenable the airview option in settings?
my video application did that one or twice......all i did was reenabling it again....and now its working....

Ambrosios said:
it took a bit of time to get used to.....have you try to disable and reenable the airview option in settings?
my video application did that one or twice......all i did was reenabling it again....and now its working....
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Yeah I did, but I found out what was actually causing it. I was using Light Flow for my notifications and didn't know about the existing issues when you enable it in the accessibility options.
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW about the problem caused, basically there is a known glitch when you try to turn on Light Flow under the accessibility options. It will try to turn on TalkBack, but only some of the TalkBack functions work, which made it hard to diagnose. Turning on TalkBack, disabling all the settings, and turning it back off won't help, neither will disabling the app. Since TalkBack disables settings such as Air View, some of the functionality is lost when you turn the settings back on. The author of Light Flow knows about the issue and is trying to work on it according to an in app message I glazed over the first time. In the meantime, plenty of other notifications still work if you don't turn on accessibility.
Thanks for the response though, hopefully this info will help others.

I have the exact same issue, except light flow isn't installed. Any other ideas?

Anyone have any ideas?

Tripledrop said:
I have the exact same issue, except light flow isn't installed. Any other ideas?
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Could you have something else installed that's causing the issue? I would disable it, reboot, and try again.

I suppose there's always the possibility something else is effecting it, but unsure what! Tried what you suggested and still not working

The way I fixed the talkback issue was to freeze both Google and Samsung text-to-speech in titanium backup.
I've still never seen air view work anywhere but in the browser though. Maybe there is a setting buried somewhere, I only discovered yesterday that the toggles in motion and gestures settings also have sub-menus with settings for individual features (and also when you tap a feature name and then 'try it' there can be more settings like sensitivity for motion zoom and pan).

Do any of you have a pebble? That'd s what was causing the issue for me. Basically if if talkback is being utilized, airview will not work.
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magnumburst said:
So this is a weird little issue that started yesterday, same day I got my S4. Air View works fine for every app but the email app. Instead of the full text, I just see this chopped off little text bubble (see attachment). It happens on either of the two email accounts I have in the app, one exchange, one aol (yes, I am ashamed). Already tried to remove both the accounts, clear the app cache, clear app data, then re-add the accounts. Same thing. Wondering if anyone has seen this issue yet or if it's just me.
S4 is stock, no root, no nothing. Had already installed all apps and changed my launcher before the issue started. Can't think of anything off the top of my head that I changed directly before I noticed the problem. Any help would be appreciated, I get a lot of emails and would love to have this working again.
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I am using LG Tone+ wireless headphone with n9005 and because I enabled its application in the accessibility options, this error happened to me.
Please check any application that might be installed and enabled under the services under accessibility options and disable/ enable until you find the one that causes this problem.
Hope this would help.
btw, thanks guys for the tip, it gave me the idea

mofahmy said:
I am using LG Tone+ wireless headphone with n9005 and because I enabled its application in the accessibility options, this error happened to me.
Please check any application that might be installed and enabled under the services under accessibility options and disable/ enable until you find the one that causes this problem.
Hope this would help.
btw, thanks guys for the tip, it gave me the idea
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Thanks mofahmy, but you'll see that I figured this out months ago. Also a note for any Light Flow users still having the issue, newer versions of Light Flow and GS4 roms have fixed the glitch.

Active Display on PlayStore!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.aon
YES MOTOROLA! YES!
It seems they moved the Active Display to the PlayStore aswell, this is the way to do it!
According to this:
https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351/posts/ehvk98kBQWL
Edit: Although it says it's not compatible on my XT1058
Edit2: According to Punit Soni, it's available from KitKat and on

dicarli said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.aon
YES MOTOROLA! YES!
It seems they moved the Active Display to the PlayStore aswell, this is the way to do it!
According to this:
https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351/posts/ehvk98kBQWL
Edit: Although it says it's not compatible on my XT1058
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They fixed the unlock delay!!!!
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didnt fix my lag.

This really ruined the unlock from active display. I reverted back to the old one. I never really had any problems with it.

Might as well ask here.
If I get a text message and access it through Active Notifications then the phone goes to the text message app and displays the message. BUT it seems that if the last app I was in WAS the messaging app and it was still open it goes there but just shows me where I was before.
Could be going crazy of course.

homemadehitshow said:
Might as well ask here.
If I get a text message and access it through Active Notifications then the phone goes to the text message app and displays the message. BUT it seems that if the last app I was in WAS the messaging app and it was still open it goes there but just shows me where I was before.
Could be going crazy of course.
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Logically thinking it's very possible. Did that happen before?

Reboot the phone after
dicarli said:
Logically thinking it's very possible. Did that happen before?
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Reboot the phone after the update and the lag is fixed!
Also you will get a new load screen that is very cool!

dicarli said:
Logically thinking it's very possible. Did that happen before?
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New phone, not really familiar with "before"

Ok so I'll ask here so I don't open another thread:
Is there a way to get the battery percentage on the active screen when "breathing" the time? You know, cuz us that are obsessed with our battery life need more notification for it.

Installed !!!
No more active display delay !!! :victory:

Breath notification

Just got this device and was shocked to notice there is no breath notification setting for the lockscreen... Is there a work around for this.

jackburtonhero said:
Just got this device and was shocked to notice there is no breath notification setting for the lockscreen... Is there a work around for this.
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I am using NoLED from the play store. It works OK, but not all the features seem to work on the Force. Still I like it better than not having an LED or breathing notifications.

What is "breath notification?" I've never heard that term before.

sn00gan said:
What is "breath notification?" I've never heard that term before.
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On the previous Moto devices with Moto Display, the notifications would "pulse." Meaning until you dismissed the notification, every few seconds, the screen would fade in and out...It was actually a great feature...They probably dumped it to save a little bit of battery life...
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Go into your Moto app. Third option should be "Display". Toggle it on. You can block specific apps from displaying by selecting "Block Apps", as I believe all apps will show by default.

After trying dozens of apps I think I found something that can work. There are several 3rd party lock screens that offer breath notifications but you end up losing the finger print reader function which was a big selling point to me. NoLed worked but you either need to shut off your lock screen or basically have two lockscreens which is kinda a pain.
So I thought maybe I just need to have the phone remind me I have a notification. I scoured the Google play store and came across an application called Recurrent Notification Manager which in my first days use seems to work. You basically tell Recurrent Notification Manager what app to monitor set the time you want the app to be refreshed and it's good to go. Best thing is you can still keep the fingerprint reader and the moto display on with the cool hand wavy thing.
It is a free app but if you want it to monitor more then one app with you have to pay $1.70. Also this app is a bit rough around the edges it's only got a 3.0 rating in the Google play store but everything seems to be working fine on my end.

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After trying dozens of apps I think I found something that can work. There are several 3rd party lock screens that offer breath notifications but you end up losing the finger print reader function which was a big selling point to me. NoLed worked but you either need to shut off your lock screen or basically have two lockscreens which is kinda a pain.
So I thought maybe I just need to have the phone remind me I have a notification. I scoured the Google play store and came across an application called Recurrent Notification Manager which in my first days use seems to work. You basically tell Recurrent Notification Manager what app to monitor set the time you want the app to be refreshed and it's good to go. Best thing is you can still keep the fingerprint reader and the moto display on with the cool hand wavy thing.
It is a free app but if you want it to monitor more then one app with you have to pay $1.70. Also this app is a bit rough around the edges it's only got a 3.0 rating in the Google play store but everything seems to be working fine on my end.
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Did you try my suggestion above?

JonnyXoom said:
Did you try my suggestion above?
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Screen only flashes once that way. I'm looking for continuous notifications until I clear the notifications.

jackburtonhero said:
Screen only flashes once that way. I'm looking for continuous notifications until I clear the notifications.
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In my experience, notifications will breathe until dismissed. Motos running Marshmallow handled these notifications differently than Nougat-based Moto's now do, but it's the same in principle.

JonnyXoom said:
In my experience, notifications will breathe until dismissed. Motos running Marshmallow handled these notifications differently than Nougat-based Moto's now do, but it's the same in principle.
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Verizon updated the Z force to 7.0 and although it says in the moto app that the screen is supposed to flash in and out when you get notifications it just flashes once.

jackburtonhero said:
After trying dozens of apps I think I found something that can work. There are several 3rd party lock screens that offer breath notifications but you end up losing the finger print reader function which was a big selling point to me. NoLed worked but you either need to shut off your lock screen or basically have two lockscreens which is kinda a pain.
So I thought maybe I just need to have the phone remind me I have a notification. I scoured the Google play store and came across an application called Recurrent Notification Manager which in my first days use seems to work. You basically tell Recurrent Notification Manager what app to monitor set the time you want the app to be refreshed and it's good to go. Best thing is you can still keep the fingerprint reader and the moto display on with the cool hand wavy thing.
It is a free app but if you want it to monitor more then one app with you have to pay $1.70. Also this app is a bit rough around the edges it's only got a 3.0 rating in the Google play store but everything seems to be working fine on my end.
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I was able to get NoLED to work. However, when you have a notification on the blank (or maybe lock) screen you have to dismiss it by touching the home button. Once I do that I touch the fingerprint scanner and the phone unlocks. It is an extra touch, but not too bad. I will check out the app you reference above as well.

Smithfolk4 said:
I was able to get NoLED to work. However, when you have a notification on the blank (or maybe lock) screen you have to dismiss it by touching the home button. Once I do that I touch the fingerprint scanner and the phone unlocks. It is an extra touch, but not too bad. I will check out the app you reference above as well.
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That was the exact same experience I had with NoLed. It wasn't awful just another touch to unlock.

jackburtonhero said:
Verizon updated the Z force to 7.0 and although it says in the moto app that the screen is supposed to flash in and out when you get notifications it just flashes once.
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I'm on Verizon and on 7.0. Flashes until I dismiss it.

JonnyXoom said:
I'm on Verizon and on 7.0. Flashes until I dismiss it.
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Are you sure?

JonnyXoom said:
I'm on Verizon and on 7.0. Flashes until I dismiss it.
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Could you please let us know if that happens? You are an onwer of the new lenovo's moto, right? If some verizon's phones has this function, I would like to share your MotoDisplay.apk from the path system/priv-app/MotoDisplay/.
Thank you in advance!

tsoump said:
Could you please let us know if that happens? You are an onwer of the new lenovo's moto, right? If some verizon's phones has this function, I would like to share your MotoDisplay.apk from the path system/priv-app/MotoDisplay/.
Thank you in advance!
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Unfortunately, I no longer own this phone. I posted this nearly two years ago.