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4.4.2 update has been out for a while, what are everyone's thoughts

Hi All,
Now that the KK update is out and installed on all RAZR HDs except for those that are pokey, I thought I'd see what everyone's opinions are.
Try to be a little more informative than "it's good", "I like it", or "it sucks", "I want a different phone". I figured this would be a good place to post up new tricks you've discovered, maybe weren't aware of before actually installing the new OS, and maybe help others discover and maximize the capabilities of the phone now.
DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD RELATED TO "WHEN IS THE NEW ROOT METHOD COMING"!!!! There are enough threads getting spammed with that nonsense.
I'll go first I guess:
- Liking the extra RAM that has been freed up with the update. About 30-40 additional MB, which in my case with everything I am running every little bit helps!
- Liking that I am now able to take advantage of the KK Xposed modules.
- Thankful that @iBolski pointed me to the new way to hack the wireless hotspot.
- I was toying with the Daydream option in settings, but couldn't get it to work correctly I don't think.
- Definitely enjoying having a 2-yr old phone that is software relevant again. Having unlimited data on VeeZeeDub I like being able to put off outright buying a phone again like I did this one.
- Liking the fact that lockscreen widgets can be posted on the lockscreen, and that a simple swype down from the clock (while using pattern lock method) moves the pattern lock to the bottom and allows the ability to view the widgets without unlocking the phone. Also like that camera is one of the widgets - much easier to get to in a pinch!
- Liking the fact that with Gravity Box [KK] I can use the frosted lockscreen image setting. Have been wanting that for a while.
- Also liking that when music is playing on the phone, the lockscreen image is changed to a picture of the album cover art (not sure if this is a mod I set up in XBlast Tools or in Gravity Box [KK] or something that is standard on the KK OS, but liking it regardless)
...more to come I'm sure!

I love it since I have root.
Things I love:
-Quicker to launch applications
-No lag, or hold ups
-The new pull down menu is a lot better.
-The lock screen and the ability to to take a picture while locked is very nice.
-Battery life seems to be better.
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
Overall, great update!

I concur with Modernmidnights assessment with the exception of Swype. I haven't used it since I purchased Swiftkey. Like that so much better.
My con was the popping noise, but that's fixed now with the fix that @kabaldan gave us. You can get that here:
http://d-h.st/vre
Otherwise, great performance. Lag is gone. Heck, I hate to say it, but I'm getting better performance out of stock than I did with Nexesque ROM and that ROM was great under JB.
Very happy with this release.

is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?

iBolski said:
I concur with Modernmidnights assessment with the exception of Swype. I haven't used it since I purchased Swiftkey. Like that so much better.
My con was the popping noise, but that's fixed now with the fix that @kabaldan gave us. You can get that here:
http://d-h.st/vre
Otherwise, great performance. Lag is gone. Heck, I hate to say it, but I'm getting better performance out of stock than I did with Nexesque ROM and that ROM was great under JB.
Very happy with this release.
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I'm also using Swiftkey, started before Swype was a feature for the AOSP keyboard (at least I think so, else I didn't know how to enable it while looking for it). I have already even deleted the stock keyboard, lol. Come to think of it I remember when Swiftkey added Swype. Was a test of sorts, then it disappeared for about a week, I was so mad I sent a nastygram to them to which they responded that it'll be coming in an update and that it was just a beta test.
Popping noise... mind elaborating slightly? I'm wondering if it's the same popping noise I am getting with autovoice enabled for listening...

LifeAsADroid said:
Popping noise... mind elaborating slightly? I'm wondering if it's the same popping noise I am getting with autovoice enabled for listening...
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Rather than rehash it all, here is a link to a thread I started over in the Q&A forum about it and @kabaldan provided a newly compiled boot image that fixes it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761162
It seems to affect some, but not all phones, whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked.

My apologies for making you respond, I should have looked harder. Your topic describing the issue was almost right below this thread. I don't think that's what my issue is.
I've noticed many problems with the stock messaging app and with hangouts as well, so many I deleted them both and switched to Go SMS pro.
Sigh, hearing there is another update from Motorola on the way makes me sad, I've customized the phone so much since the update I don't want to go back to stock and do it all over again.
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xubeiga said:
is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?
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The latest motorola phone can do that because they have a dedicated , very low power processor for it , if we did this on our phone , it would ruin the battery life.
the closest you ca, achieve , is with nova launcher, you can program it to respond to "ok google" when you are on the main screen.

xubeiga said:
is it possible to have google now on this device?
i mean that thing that u say "ok google now" and the phones wakes up and talks to you?
or it is not possible since the hardware is not compatible?
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Google Now is already on the phone. Now, if you want it to launch from the launcher, then at this point, no. The Google Now Launcher is not available for this phone (yet).
However, as another poster stated, you can get the latest Nova Launcher and it has the ability to respond to "Ok Google" from the desktop.

Or, if one is rooted, use the Xposed module OK Google For Third Party Launchers and enable everything (all apps, EVERYTHING) within. Now I can use "OK Google" to launch Google Now from any application or screen (except for the lockscreen... still working on that one...)
Took about 5 minutes to go through all 150+ apps to enable them all, but worth it.

Another question for all:
Has anyone tried using the Moto Skip yet after upgrading to 4.4.2? I found the apk online (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-skip-apk-t2416837 check post #4)
It installed just fine and ran when entered from settings --> security, but I haven't actually tested it yet since I don't have any NFC tags on hand. Might see if I can pick up NFC tags to see if it works.
Little by little, changing this phone into a "Moto X Mini" lol. Let's call it Moto X Dragon, it sounds cooler 8) lol

LifeAsADroid said:
Or, if one is rooted, use the Xposed module OK Google For Third Party Launchers and enable everything (all apps, EVERYTHING) within. Now I can use "OK Google" to launch Google Now from any application or screen (except for the lockscreen... still working on that one...)
Took about 5 minutes to go through all 150+ apps to enable them all, but worth it.
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but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?

xubeiga said:
but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?
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just did it with nova launcher it works.

xubeiga said:
but it isnt possible to do stuff like you say ok google
say "text PEOPLE" "say the message"
and the phone sends it.
not possible right?
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Worked for me. Using "OK Google" command on the stock 4.4.2 Motorola launcher and the Xposed OK Google module.

billycar11 said:
just did it with nova launcher it works.
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LifeAsADroid said:
Worked for me. Using "OK Google" command on the stock 4.4.2 Motorola launcher and the Xposed OK Google module.
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you gotta be kidding me!!
seriously? lol i would love to have that.
just waiting the update here in Brazil, and waiting for the phone arrives. (grrr why does it take soo longggg -_- it actually passed only 4 days since i bought it and the max prize is 13/06 but I WANT ITTTTTTTTTTT NOWW)
Motorola Moto HD? hahah

modernmidnight said:
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
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Did you know that Google keyboard works with KitKat, and is a marvelous substitute for Swype, with regard to gesture typing? And it's free. Get it in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.inputmethod.latin

Not_A_Dev said:
Did you know that Google keyboard works with KitKat, and is a marvelous substitute for Swype, with regard to gesture typing? And it's free. Get it in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.inputmethod.latin
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As someone who has used Google Keyboard, Swype, and Swiftkey all quite a bit, Google Keyboard's gesture typing isn't as good as the other two.
I still use it, but that might be a dealbreaker for some people.

killrhythm09 said:
As someone who has used Google Keyboard, Swype, and Swiftkey all quite a bit, Google Keyboard's gesture typing isn't as good as the other two.
I still use it, but that might be a dealbreaker for some people.
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Well, I'm sure you have heard what they say about gift horses and their mouths...

modernmidnight said:
I love it since I have root.
Things I love:
-Quicker to launch applications
-No lag, or hold ups
-The new pull down menu is a lot better.
-The lock screen and the ability to to take a picture while locked is very nice.
-Battery life seems to be better.
Things I hate:
-Swype is not included and now I have to pay $3.99
Overall, great update!
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Google Keyboard has a swype alternative that's free
Please excuse my lateness lol
I think personally, the OS is a lot snappier but there are a lot of bugs that are still present in the final release thought, I haven't had the popping noise sound but I have encountered soft reboots when I boot the phone with headphones in, it does lag a little sometimes but that's due to lack or ram. I love wireless printing, and read receipts. Would love art runtime if more apps were compatible with it. I'm just glad to have it. Having an locked bootloader isn't that great, the first Razr Maxx HD I had was and that was lovely, but I digress. Daydream is kind of useless to me. I am a battery converservationists. The multiple home launcher selector was well worth the wait. I can run Nova Launcher or the Google Now Launcher whenever I want to. Another drawback is that I can't write anything to the SD card unless it's with a system app now. Battery life is decent, I get a full day of heavy usage everyday. Which is the reason I purchased the phone, battery life. After a few days of running KitKat the random battery drain stopped for me.

i'm now on JB rooted, and i've change my font to playful. If i update to kitkat, will i lost my font? coz i realy love the font :crying:

Make some noise people! OK google! Fix this

Many of you already know that Samsung or Google, neither is taking full credit has removed the ok Google from any screen option. This is utter bull crap. The fact that our phone is being crippled without any explanation or reasoning is unacceptable. we as the Android community need to be loud about this. Whether you use the Service or not isn't the issue. You should at least have the option. We need to be loud about this. Bombard them with our inquiry as to why this feature is no longer there. Below is a few links to get you started. I'm still working on finding a direct contact number for Google so that we can call them. the squeaky wheel gets the oil!
https://www.change.org/p/google-inc-restore-ok-google-from-any-screen-options
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!category-topic/websearch/issue-search/xGiV6D4PMS8

I frankly couldn't care less about that feature but I understand your concerns. I'm pretty sure Google will eventually return the feature after they make some tweaks.

msavic6 said:
I frankly couldn't care less about that feature but I understand your concerns. I'm pretty sure Google will eventually return the feature after they make some tweaks.
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To me it's like is suddenly Gmail no longer had a spam folder. yes you still have gmail. and it essentially function the same. But a feature, and maybe a key feature to some people is removed and its only for one particular phone. now it's already been established that spam folder works just fine. But without any reason or explanation its just gone. most people wouldn't care. just a few more emails you have to delete. But to the few that really want it it's a big deal.
I Drive a lot. A lot of us do. And that hands-free experience of okay Google is essential. It actually might become a deal breaker for me. its not there yet but it might be . let's hope I don't have to make that decision and google just fixes this

Your problem is not a Google problem. You will be barking up the wrong tree. Install Nova launcher and see for yourself. It is Touchwiz that is lacking the feature. Talk to Samsung about it.

BCSC said:
Your problem is not a Google problem. You will be barking up the wrong tree. Install Nova launcher and see for yourself. It is Touchwiz that is lacking the feature. Talk to Samsung about it.
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Samsung can't remove it. And didn't. They may have influenced Google to do it but google is the only one that could turn that feature off. Remember, it was on for the first few weeks. Then it was randomly turned off with out any app update or software.

What a logic. If a different launcher brings it back, it's Samsung's fault, otherwise it's Google's fault.

BCSC said:
Your problem is not a Google problem. You will be barking up the wrong tree. Install Nova launcher and see for yourself. It is Touchwiz that is lacking the feature. Talk to Samsung about it.
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I don't think you understand how the feature is supposed to work. Turning Nova's feature on only gives you listening when you're on a home page. The full Google feature listens from any screen, no matter the app (and from screen off if you're plugged in).
Nova's feature was rolled out before Google's came to all devices and they're not really related.
That the feature is missing has nothing to do with the launcher.

This is a pretty big issue. I suspect the latest update broke it. I liked having the "From any screen" and from a locked screen feature.

Humm looks like a Samsung tweak to me and coincides with the battery drain fix we got through Samsung Services app. I'm really not a fan of always on Hot words and the like id rather my device was saving its battery than slamming its self listening for a word.
The choice should be their though but my guess is the battery hit just wasnt worth it for the very small number of users who want / need the feature. as other have said new launcher or root/rom and fix the problem yourself
Chances of Samsung "Fixing" this very very very very very very small.
ADZ

Samsung definitely removed it. Just got my phone last Thursday and I had the option on the phone, as soon as I received the Samsung push for the battery drain it was gone.

I personally couldn't care less about it but hey, if you need it you need it. I don't feel as my phone is "crippled " , didn't even notice it.
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I've actually started using S-Voice now (don't kill me) and it's actually really nice. The fact that I can activate it from the lockscreen with the screen off, NOT charging, is a big win too.

¿Will-it-Blend? said:
I've actually started using S-Voice now (don't kill me) and it's actually really nice. The fact that I can activate it from the lockscreen with the screen off, NOT charging, is a big win too.
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Hotward detection while the screen is off is the one feature I miss most from the Nexus 6.

JLishere said:
Hotward detection while the screen is off is the one feature I miss most from the Nexus 6.
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I would give S voice a try. I'm liking it more than I thought I would. It's just on par with Google in speed and it has more functionality.

Perhaps i am weird (or maybe its working in an office), but i have never had the urge to yell at my phone to search.. or do things.... Ill admit i have used my wear to do some texts in the car, but even then i feel pretty silly.
That said, i am not a fan of removing features, but i also air on the side of caution. If an update removed it, i would suspect it was for a cause less nefarious than an evil samsung, and more likely to fix a bug or battery issue. But till we hear something official, its only really guessing...

I'm really ticked off about it. I left my Moto X 2014 for the S6 because of the camera. I probably wouldn't have if I had known that I wouldn't have the full Google Voice functionality on this phone; I typically use Google Voice to interact with my phone several times a day. What really gets me upset is that I didn't realize it until the DAY AFTER my 2 week return period... Luckily, I have a Moto 360 that I can use Google Voice with. This was a crappy move by Samsung. I hope they bring it back.

Google now from any screen fix
Hi Guys, as its one of the features I use a lot especially when driving I uploaded a YouTube video showing a work around
Link below. Hope it helps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztPR_zXObJc
Cheers.

It works in Nova launcher now from any home screen. No widget needed.

Japultra said:
It works in Nova launcher now from any home screen. No widget needed.
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Works on Apex too, under advanced settings

Japultra said:
It works in Nova launcher now from any home screen. No widget needed.
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Painless001 said:
Works on Apex too, under advanced settings
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Those are not what the thread is referring to. OP is referring to "OK Google" from any screen (not just launcher home screens) - for instance, you could trigger Ok Google while in Gmail, Maps, etc - any app really, without needing to go back to Nova or Apex.

Smart screen

So if anybody else like me is coming from the G2 and 3 you might be missing smart screen.. That little feature that detects your face while looking at the screen to keep the screen awake instead of fading out. I personally felt it a real convenience. I would like to get it back, I pulled the app from my G3 titled wise screen. I installed it like a normal app with success. I used activity launcher to try and launch it, but it fc's. So I'm guessing we'll need root to get it functional. When we do get root is there anyone else interested in joining me on this quest? I would really like to get this one up and running. I can't for the life of me understand why they left it off. I feel like I'm back on ics or jb with out it..

Try kinScreen from the playstore
It works great

whiskeybro said:
Try kinScreen from the playstore
It works great
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Well on that note... Thanks lol

Swizzle82 said:
So if anybody else like me is coming from the G2 and 3 you might be missing smart screen.. That little feature that detects your face while looking at the screen to keep the screen awake instead of fading out. I personally felt it a real convenience. I would like to get it back, I pulled the app from my G3 titled wise screen. I installed it like a normal app with success. I used activity launcher to try and launch it, but it fc's. So I'm guessing we'll need root to get it functional. When we do get root is there anyone else interested in joining me on this quest? I would really like to get this one up and running. I can't for the life of me understand why they left it off. I feel like I'm back on ics or jb with out it..
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I have to agree with you. I am so surprised they took it out. I spent 30 min on the phone trying to find it. I tried the app the other post recommended, not as good, it will never turn the phone off in the car when the phone is mounted and the car is moving.

I, too, was looking for the smartscreen settings. Was surprised that LG decided to remove it. Will try the above mentioned kinscreen later

Anyone know if Samsung removed it from the S6? They started the feature and it was one of the more useful features they added to Touchwiz. I was glad when LG copied it. Most of the other stuff was junk, but that was actually useful.

That sucks. I wonder if they removed smart screen to keep the screen from running down the battery.
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You can try Smart Screen from the play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vjt.app.magicscreen
And iseeyou
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iseeyoulite

What's really weird is that the Smart Screen app is installed on the phone. Go to app manager, and check out the "All" list and there's Smart Screen. There's just no way to activate it.

ED2O9 said:
What's really weird is that the Smart Screen app is installed on the phone. Go to app manager, and check out the "All" list and there's Smart Screen. There's just no way to activate it.
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I don't have the app at all on mine.. 811.

I don't show it listed on my sprint version.
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Here it is on the Verizon variant. Wow... this is the first time the Verizon version actually has something the others don't!

It's on the phone but doesn't seem to work. I don't see any place to enable it and creating an activity to open the app causes it to crash.

Never really worked for me on G2/3.

I miss this and have found an app on the play store that mimics it. It worked well for me on the G3.

Verizon has this. I disabled it though. It worked great on my G2 for the time I tested it. For me, I am typically using my phone while in the middle of doing something else. So it is a waste.

ED2O9 said:
What's really weird is that the Smart Screen app is installed on the phone. Go to app manager, and check out the "All" list and there's Smart Screen. There's just no way to activate it.
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Not on mine H810. I am wondering if maybe they built something into the package? As since I have had mine, and if I'm using it or just looking at it the screen doesn't shut off.

ED2O9 said:
Here it is on the Verizon variant. Wow... this is the first time the Verizon version actually has something the others don't!
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Droid_Junky said:
It's on the phone but doesn't seem to work. I don't see any place to enable it and creating an activity to open the app causes it to crash.
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player911 said:
Verizon has this. I disabled it though. It worked great on my G2 for the time I tested it. For me, I am typically using my phone while in the middle of doing something else. So it is a waste.
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On Verizon, you can see the service - it is not an app - BUT there are no Settings I can find or know of that actually allow you to activate it or interact with it in anyway. So it is "there" but seems to do nothing and cannot be setup.
EDIT: I used the hidden Verizon menu and found this "smart screen" but when you click on it, it forecloses and crashes. So, it is as if that first part of the services is there BUT the actual functionality is not as using the hidden Verizon menu I cannot activate it and access settings or turn it on to work - and I would think from that hidden menu, we should.

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On Verizon, you can see the service - it is not an app - BUT there are no Settings I can find or know of that actually allow you to activate it or interact with it in anyway. So it is "there" but seems to do nothing and cannot be setup.
EDIT: I used the hidden Verizon menu and found this "smart screen" but when you click on it, it forecloses and crashes. So, it is as if that first part of the services is there BUT the actual functionality is not as using the hidden Verizon menu I cannot activate it and access settings or turn it on to work - and I would think from that hidden menu, we should.
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So is there no smart screen setting under display settings on verizon?

Swizzle82 said:
So is there no smart screen setting under display settings on verizon?
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There is not

Chop Twice Feedback: "Tell us how it worked". PLEASE MAKE IT STOP.

So every time I use the chop motion on my Moto X PURE I get a notification that says chop twice feedback tell us how it worked every single time I use it. I don't know how I can block it I don't know what I did to opt in to this but it is incredibly annoying as hell and I want to get rid of it now. Any help will be greatly appreciated because right now it's highly discouraging me from using the chop motion. I've given positive feedback several times already and now I'm giving it negative because the damn thing won't go away! Thanks in advance!
I'm running TruPureX 6.0
Asked this on the motox reddit and only got sarcasm and downvotes. Seriously don't ask any questions there.

stanleyopar2000 said:
So every time I use the chop motion on my Moto X PURE I get a notification that says chop twice feedback tell us how it worked every single time I use it. I don't know how I can block it I don't know what I did to opt in to this but it is incredibly annoying as hell and I want to get rid of it now. Any help will be greatly appreciated because right now it's highly discouraging me from using the chop motion. I've given positive feedback several times already and now I'm giving it negative because the damn thing won't go away! Thanks in advance!
I'm running TruPureX 6.0
Asked this on the motox reddit and only got sarcasm and downvotes. Seriously don't ask any questions there.
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Maybe under settings-> Motorola privacy?
Not sure where that prompt is coming from...

dottat said:
Maybe under settings-> Motorola privacy?
Not sure where that prompt is coming from...
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Everything is unticked
Found out I was opted in to the MFN (Motorola feedback network) and I just opted out. So....maybe that was the issue

To stop this notification, hold down on it to go to the settings, and check block all.

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To stop this notification, hold down on it to go to the settings, and check block all.
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I did that....and it's "moto actions" ...is it practical to disable all notifications from moto actions?

It doesn't seem like you get any other notifications from it, and it seems like the only way to get rid of it right now, as well as you won't see those feedback notification anymore. Everything is working fine, including Moto Display, if that's what you'd think it would interfere with.

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It doesn't seem like you get any other notifications from it, and it seems like the only way to get rid of it right now, as well as you won't see those feedback notification anymore. Everything is working fine, including Moto Display, if that's what you'd think it would interfere with.
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But then I don't get the notification that the flashlight is on anymore..

I find the notification for when the flashlight is on useless. I'm pretty sure you should know/tell if the flashlight is on. There's a toggle for the flashlight in the quick settings for it. If you really need it, possibly if it keeps accidentally turning on, I guess you'll have to wait for a fix for that notification to stop showing up every time.

Always on Display & Whatsapp

I just read that the always on display so far shows only text, Email and missed calls. I'm owning a moto x and the active display is one of my favorite features. Especially that it shows me a preview of the message and the sender. So I know whether it's worth to open the app or just dismiss it. For those who already got the phone, how do you deal with that? Any 3rd party apps that supports the always on display and whatsapp.

Hey,
Unfortunately, it is not like the active display, it only shows missed calls or messages no 3partyapps if need one like the moto active display u can download the app " Ac display its almost the same like the moto one here a link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.achep.acdisplay
And a screen from the always on options and possibilities
http://imgur.com/a/uzUfR
But in my opinion its a nice feature so u got always in time
Greetings Paddy-

Thanks Paddy,
I played a little bit with acdisplay the last days. Do you know how I can make as a always on display? It only pops up when I have notifications. I would like to use like samsungs active display for testing.

Just received my pre-ordered S7 EDGE. To cut it short, with no ROOT or other tweaks at the moment, the AOD only shows missed calls and text messages (not even e-mails). So although a nice attempt, if fails lamentably. It is only really useful if you want to check the time or battery power most of the time.
Also, off topic, the edge display is also nice, but not actually useful since it does not pop up when screen is off and a notification arrives.
Just my 2 cents.

ionutz6 said:
Just received my pre-ordered S7 EDGE. To cut it short, with no ROOT or other tweaks at the moment, the AOD only shows missed calls and text messages (not even e-mails). So although a nice attempt, if fails lamentably. It is only really useful if you want to check the time or battery power most of the time.
Also, off topic, the edge display is also nice, but not actually useful since it does not pop up when screen is off and a notification arrives.
Just my 2 cents.
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I agree is pretty useless atm - i think wish the clock would work with the green pines image combination - i hope they make it more useful otherwise much about nothing
I did have it on overnight and i noticed in 8h it only eat up 5% which is not bad at all
PS: where did you pre-ordered the phone from? are there any shops selling in on preorder in Romania??
thanks

Yeah it's really just a way to check the time. using a 3rd party text app (google messenger in my case) you don't even get the text. All i get is the missed calls and time and battery. I'm ok with that though. I get notifications on my Gear S. the time and battery are usually the only things I look for if screen is off. If I get a blinking LED i know i have a notification waiting anyways.

Agreed that it's a bit limiting at present, but looking at other areas of the phone (themes / camera) Samsung have added options to download additional functionality. They'll almost definitely do something similar to always on display!

If you ask me, I think Samsung quickly implemented the Always-On screen after their "spies" found out that LG will have it, or maybe seeing the V10 success with the second screen. Otherwise I really can't understand why would you bother to implement such a useful feature in such a horrible manner. Who uses SMS these days ? Almost no one. Yet missed SMS messages are are part of the feature while missing any other useful notification. Even their own email application doesn't use the feature. I really hope that the next update brings huge improvements on this.

I remember in my S6 edge there was the Edge display which could be always on with ROOT and Mods.. And laso it would show new notifications. Hopefully development will start soon as we have Root

Cst79 said:
If you ask me, I think Samsung quickly implemented the Always-On screen after their "spies" found out that LG will have it, or maybe seeing the V10 success with the second screen. Otherwise I really can't understand why would you bother to implement such a useful feature in such a horrible manner. Who uses SMS these days ? Almost no one. Yet missed SMS messages are are part of the feature while missing any other useful notification. Even their own email application doesn't use the feature. I really hope that the next update brings huge improvements on this.
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Careful about your assumptions, there are plenty of people that still use SMS (such as myself and most of my friends/family/coworkers). That being said, I agree the implementation of this basically misses the point, unless you just want a desk clock.

Root for the S7/ s7 edge is not looking good
varun.gid said:
I remember in my S6 edge there was the Edge display which could be always on with ROOT and Mods.. And laso it would show new notifications. Hopefully development will start soon as we have Root
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I was reading on another thread in here I forget which, but the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge, refuse to flash anything not digitally signed by samsung.
even the stock firmware if uncompressed and re-compressed it looses the samsung signature and fails to flash to the system partition

Cst79 said:
If you ask me, I think Samsung quickly implemented the Always-On screen after their "spies" found out that LG will have it, or maybe seeing the V10 success with the second screen. Otherwise I really can't understand why would you bother to implement such a useful feature in such a horrible manner. Who uses SMS these days ? Almost no one. Yet missed SMS messages are are part of the feature while missing any other useful notification. Even their own email application doesn't use the feature. I really hope that the next update brings huge improvements on this.
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This is funny. I don't know anyone that does NOT use text messaging. I guess it's the circles you run in but I've never heard one single person in my life mention giving up SMS.

SMS is so 2014! I only use whatsapp as do all of the people i know. Texting sucks.

Surrylic said:
This is funny. I don't know anyone that does NOT use text messaging. I guess it's the circles you run in but I've never heard one single person in my life mention giving up SMS.
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The problem is that you missed the point of my post. There are tons of applications delivering notifications, and if the always-on screen is to fulfill its promise, all the notifications should be displayed in some way.

Cst79 said:
Who uses SMS these days ? Almost no one.
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LOL?? Every person I know uses SMS.

brunobits said:
I was reading on another thread in here I forget which, but the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge, refuse to flash anything not digitally signed by samsung.
even the stock firmware if uncompressed and re-compressed it looses the samsung signature and fails to flash to the system partition
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CF Auto Root is here Already so i dont see issues now.. its matter of time we get the MODs

ydoucare said:
LOL?? Every person I know uses SMS.
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in the US most of the guys are using text messages... asked my cousin couple of weeks ago if he could give me his number, that i can write to him via whatsapp ... answer: what is whatsapp, we use text...

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tim2london said:
I agree is pretty useless atm - i think wish the clock would work with the green pines image combination - i hope they make it more useful otherwise much about nothing
I did have it on overnight and i noticed in 8h it only eat up 5% which is not bad at all
PS: where did you pre-ordered the phone from? are there any shops selling in on preorder in Romania??
thanks
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All major retailers in Romania offered pre-orders. I've got mine with the gear vr for a really good price. Mine arrived on the 9th of March as well.

My question is: can be the what's app, facebook, gmail ecc notifications on AOD implemented by software in the future?

i use the always on feature all the time ,but like the rest of us, i wished it showed part of sms message if not all and the email message who the call was from etc , would be good if could just reply as well ,i think i am getting ahead of myself there lol