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Comparisons between GB and ICS...What is your overall opinion so far?

Hey guys.
Must say for early stages ICS looks pretty sweet. Looking forward to the stable version by Codeworkx and team.
My opinion though is that i still find Gingerbread pretty solid and has all the features i need still. Yes ICS is still in early stages. But there are still few features that i can not leave without just yet. And plus battery life of course is a major issue for me so when kernel sources are released i am sure we shall see an influx of kernels to tackle the problem as it was in the early days of Gingerbread on our gorgeous phones.
Question here is...Do you guys find it worth the jump even on early stages or are you sticking with Gingerbread as it is still stable and you have all the features you can ask for till the gorgeous CM9 gets more stable? Also what would you like from Gingerbread to be on ICS
Thanks

The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..

Prasad007 said:
The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..
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I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?

Neo3000 said:
I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?
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Well I'm most likely the wrong person to answer that, having come from the original SGS since only the last 2 days. And no, I don't think that it's not a good enough reason to revert to GB for Voodoo LOUDER when I'm actually giving it a fair thought of going back to the SGS1 for Voodoo Sound...

I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui

One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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Well cyanogenmod 9 is stable enough for my tastes. And once media is fixed I think it's good enough
New multi tasking is sweet. But there are some nice addition here and there like a new voice system which I'm using now. Or do you mean
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anshmiester78900 said:
I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui
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Don't worry, there are plenty of people like you and me giggling at the various topics of stuttering paid alternative launchers, and buggy custom AOSP roms, but they are mostly silent.
I think its great they are there, because it can lead to new insights, but so far for me stock + TW + a mild Jkay-theme hit the sweet spot for almost everything this phone can do for me.

Opinion its a leaked test rom and not ICS release who knows what will change .
jje

Ive been trying out the cm9 alpha for a while now and am liking it. Got it setup virtually the same as my KK5 daily.
With cm9 I don't need voodoo louder and my a2dp streaming sounds better.
But.....
I could easily go back to KK5 odexed which I have setup the way I like it. Jkay mods, frozen apps, voodoo louder, etc.
I use go launcher ex, go sms pro and poweramp on both so mostly my user interface is the same.
Found since sgs1 that I like the 3rd party apps more than stock. Thats the beauty of android I guess.
Im ok with both as a daily so far.
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ephraim033 said:
One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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+1 I watch YouTube vids on a daily basis lol. They have a done a great job with ICS so far though
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I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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eamon0989 said:
I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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Same here. ICS is very good and I urge all to give CM9 a try. Of course we cannot mod, theme etc.. at this stage but to be frank there is no need to. Great sensible UI coupled with a very smooth and snappy scrolling and other animations makes it a perfect ROM for a common user. If you are too much into theming, tweaking etc.. stay away from CM9 at the moment until a stable one comes out.
Not much of a battery drain also. Maybe 10% more than stock GB.

ICS KP8
CM9
No thanks no advantage over what i have at present .
Yes to supposed specs when ICS is actually released .
jje

I tested for 2 days the ICS and I must say that the samsung team it's on the good way. ICS will be a wonderful OS to run on SGS2. They still have a lot of bugs to fix, but there are just leaks. We must wait for some official releases.
At the moment you can use ICS just to explore some of the goodies that will be present in the future for our phones. We will have to keep gingerbread for a while
Personally, I want to see the weather on lockscreen fully implemented in the next builds

theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now

Personally I don't find ICS the revolutionary change that some people were hyping around. It's an improvement, but not super.
And +1 to the people who mentioned the media part. Once it's fixed I might go to CM9.
And frankly I don't find Trebechet launcher on CM9 smoother than Touchwiz on Gingerboard :/

dzel said:
theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now
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I am totally agree with Dzel.
Since ICS alpha(not even beta) version. its no good to compare stable GB version.
Again CM9 is much better than CM7.

I am running cm9 as my daily now as most remaining issues are not so important.
I was before on cm7 with Siyah kernel, and honestly, everything was really running smooth. I do not see any big improvment in ICS, and in that point, I am a litle disapointed.
I will stick to cm9 as ICs is now the developped OS, but I was waiting for more big changes from Google.
A litle bit like diff between OSX 10.3, .4, .5 etc etc. No real big changes.

Best ICS rom avail right now

I am interested in running ics on my int. Note. What is the most stable ics rom out there?
My note is stock + rooted
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How would we know, the new leak was just released 4/1/12. Try it out and find out for yourself. They all have bugs, nothing most xda-ers would consider deal breaker.

Imilka's AOSP for my money. Slim, fast and reliable.

Stunner. Period.

+1 for ICS stunner.
just make sure you install it PROPERLY. don't halfass it.

sideways86 said:
+1 for ICS stunner.
just make sure you install it PROPERLY. don't halfass it.
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Problems with flash videos anyone

GocaS6 said:
Problems with flash videos anyone
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youtube and fb apps work just fine for me. Do you have any particular site that doesn't work? Please post so that I can check and confirm.

Definitely Imilka's AOSP. Clean, fast, stable. And what's more important - it's pure ASOP, no touchwiz, no unnecessary tweaks, just Android as it was intended.

Ics stunner any day!
Here's a video I made.. this is its tablet UI.. note feels like a completely different phone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io-lfpmw5BY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Akiainavas said:
Definitely Imilka's AOSP. Clean, fast, stable. And what's more important - it's pure ASOP, no touchwiz, no unnecessary tweaks, just Android as it was intended.
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Stunner, stunner period!!!

It depends. Would you like a complete stock Android experience, or would you like Samsungs S-Pen apps and features?
For the first one Imilka's is great. ICS Stunner, stock android, with lots of tweaks and options, is also a good choice.
If you would like the second, Midnote 3.0 is pretty good.
I'd recommend trying at least those three roms out.
It is difficult for people to recommend roms because of each user specific needs and requirements.
You will have to test them out yourself.
I'm on Midnote 3.0 at the moment and it's pretty good for normal use in my opinion.

Midnote because it's the only one that's given me fully functional Flash.

Lance Uppercut said:
Midnote because it's the only one that's given me fully functional Flash.
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I'm having trouble with flash on stunner I really hope they fix it soon... problem is no one on the thread seems to care...
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given that you currently use the stock ROM, then i suggest the answer is likely "none" and you wait for Samsung to release ICS for the note...

Mystic38 said:
given that you currently use the stock ROM, then i suggest the answer is likely "none" and you wait for Samsung to release ICS for the note...
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The weird thing is that Youtube works but nothing else does. Stunner has the best look and feel but having Netflix is too important.

Ics stunner
I used most of ICS builds, but the best at moment is ICS Stunner 4.3. Fast and stable.

I installed every new ROM, realy Stunner is best one

to me....pure ASOP= pure boring.
Oh, yeah....Stunner 4Shr.
Akiainavas said:
Definitely Imilka's AOSP. Clean, fast, stable. And what's more important - it's pure ASOP, no touchwiz, no unnecessary tweaks, just Android as it was intended.
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I tried ICS for the past couple of days, was using Stunner and Imilka's. I used Midnote 3.0 for 5minutes, realised my modem was not working and switched roms (lazy to fix hehe .. All ROMs were speedy, especially setting the UI options to 0.5x performance (not sure what is the exact name of the settings, all i know is that its in developer settings). I can't comment much about the 0.2GHz increase, but it didn't really bother me when i was on LP1.
Between Imilka (was using v7), Midnote 3.0 and Stunner (4.3, latest LP5), Stunner suited me the most because there were less bugs, the ability to change from phone to tablet with more convenience. Mainly Stability/functionality/convenience (eg toggles) issues. Battery life on ICS was not bad, draining 1% for every 1.5 hrs of deep sleep in 2G+Data. However running apps caused my note to be warmer and drain was higher compared to GB.
However Rocketrom v23 + Franco Test kernel still pulled me back to GB today with S-pen full functionality + stock photo editor/ on the fly editing for screenshot. Stability and awesome battery life contributed much as well.

Q2V said:
I installed every new ROM, realy Stunner is best one
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After trying all the major ICS roms... I have to agree to this as well. Neo does excellent job.

Most stable Desire Z ROM?

Hi
Currently Im on Cyanogenmod 7.2.0 RC1 nightly 414 and while OK, the other day it had a HORRIBLE (unbearable) slowdown period. Even multiple restarts didnt help. Finally it seems it fixed itself but Ive looking for something new. I use Go Launcher if that makes any difference. Im into speed but I think Im going to go with stable over speed this time.
What ROM do you recommend? Also nothing broken (automatically discards all CM9 ROMs)

If you are into Sense UI, go for Virtuous ROM, stock ROM tweaked + enhancements. If CM7 works if you are into vanilla ROMs.

I have been using virtuous glite 2.0.1 its stable I had no issues at all and I get great battery life, plus its slightly overclocked. Gslim1.6 is also very good but I had better battery life with glite. Both roms are based on GB 2.3.4. Here is a good rom index thread it lists all G2-Desire Z roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
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rand0m_insanity said:
If you are into Sense UI
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You cannot say "Sense", "stable" and "speed" in the same sentence.
ACHILLES R32 said:
I have been using virtuous glite 2.0.1 its stable I had no issues at all and I get great battery life, plus its slightly overclocked. Gslim1.6 is also very good but I had better battery life with glite. Both roms are based on GB 2.3.4. Here is a good rom index thread it lists all G2-Desire Z roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
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Yes, Im aware of the list but I wanted user feedback.
(Im not talking to any of you or anyone else Dont take this the wrong way at all as it is not a insult to any of you). Its funny: People ***** (a lot) when their ROMs go bad but when they are great, they dont say anything at all.

WOW G-lite is VERY old...

and i like ROMs with features; stripped down versions are not for me

sound like you will be most happy with elitemod, the cm7 based rom although i have been testing out nik3r's ics rom and like it better than most ics roms, i would go with his gingerbread rom. should be all you are looking for and great support from nik3r as well

Are you looking for a gingerbread or ics rom?

riahc3 said:
WOW G-lite is VERY old...
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Damn I'm still happily running it! If it works great why worry how old it is. It's a testament to how well it works as it sits. anyways I'm waiting for a stable cyanogen 9. Then maybe, frankly I don't want to mess with it too much I want plain Android and I can customize it from there

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You cannot say "Sense", "stable" and "speed" in the same sentence.
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I don't think you have tried much of the Sense ROMs back then, or maybe you were doing something wrong. I have had quite a few stable and fast sense ROMs. Of course they were not as fast as vanilla ones, but it works, knowing that you are the type who wants more features in ROMs.

riahc3 said:
What ROM do you recommend? Also nothing broken (automatically discards all CM9 ROMs)
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Have you tried a CM9 Rom lately? Don't let the Beta name scare you, I have found the latest andromadus audacity extremely reliable, and everything works. I actually think it has less bugs then my stock htc GB rom.

demkantor said:
sound like you will be most happy with elitemod, the cm7 based rom although i have been testing out nik3r's ics rom and like it better than most ics roms, i would go with his gingerbread rom. should be all you are looking for and great support from nik3r as well
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Same, though I'm still tweaking my SetCPU settings and such, I like EliteMod's ICS rom the most right now particularly in terms of features and responsiveness. I was trying the unofficial CM9beta13 for a couple days and that thing was eating battery like no-body's business. EliteMod seems to be much more tweaked as it's the same setup Nik3r is using for his own personal Desire-Z.
But far as stability goes, I would agree that going with a Ginger rom would be the best bet, ICS right now is still too experimental in my opinion.
I've never tried the CM7 version of EliteMod, only the official CM 7.2.0 which was ok-ish for me. The EliteMod ICS Rom to me feels much faster and responsive than even the stock CM7rom, and I much prefer QuickPix app the EliteMod uses over that slow-arse Gallery app in CM7.

I would recommend andromadus mimicry (ics) its pretty stable and everything works (for me at least). It has the ics specific flaws like scrambled text in app drawer but launcher restart fixes it. Using this rom for 2 weeks and had this text issue 1 time. Battery is good also
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You should try Elitemod cm7 it has never failed me, all the features you need, speed and stabiity plus amaizing battery life. If you wanna go ICS get the cm9 elitemod, but it is still a bit buggy.

I tried a lot of roms, and I always came back to ILWT CM7 (not new versions). Sense roms are quite good but not on Desire Z (too small amount of ram memory, multitasking on sense roms are poor - even on sense 2.1 roms with supercharger script). I waiting for stable CM9 (and yes i tried all versions of CM9 but text glitches and manually change apn to send/receives mms, makes me nervous).
That is only my subjective opinion

Anything CM7 based is very stable. Probably the most stable of all. Stay away from CM9 or anything ICS on this phone for another few months in terms of stability.

decompleter said:
Anything CM7 based is very stable. Probably the most stable of all. Stay away from CM9 or anything ICS on this phone for another few months in terms of stability.
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I can only vouch for my own experiences but I find cm9 very stable, perfect for a daily.

jessv3 said:
I can only vouch for my own experiences but I find cm9 very stable, perfect for a daily.
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Going to install the Beta14 right now, the ALPHA 1 month ago had a lot of issues... but that was 1 month ago. Will post back...

Try Quadrasense! Not true that rom based on CM9 is not stable....
Quadrasense is very fast and stable
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For most stable overall rom I would recommend the latest ILWT CM7. For most stable ICS rom I would recommend the Andromadus Mimicry rom.

[Q] How's Jellybean?

To those of you using JB on the MT4G: how is it? Stable? Good enough to be a daily driver? Everything important working for you?
I'd love to flash JB on my MT4G but I'm not sure if it's stable enough yet and the ROM threads are long and winding enough that I have trouble following them. I have a phone with the dodgy eMMC chip so I'd rather not spend all day flashing ROMs to try them out myself and possibly killing my phone in the process. I'd love to find a JB ROM that has all major features working and is close to stock JB (I don't like too much bling in my ROMs).
Thanks!

eyard75 said:
To those of you using JB on the MT4G: how is it? Stable? Good enough to be a daily driver? Everything important working for you?
I'd love to flash JB on my MT4G but I'm not sure if it's stable enough yet and the ROM threads are long and winding enough that I have trouble following them. I have a phone with the dodgy eMMC chip so I'd rather not spend all day flashing ROMs to try them out myself and possibly killing my phone in the process. I'd love to find a JB ROM that has all major features working and is close to stock JB (I don't like too much bling in my ROMs).
Thanks!
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I'm using 0.0's Jellybean port based off the Desire S and it's been going good for the past few hours. Everything works for me, well except that front facing camera. That doesn't work on Jellybean yet. Dropping down the MPs in the camera removes the green line. I also do have the bad eMMC chip but I've been flashing almost every week to see which one is the best for me. I love ICS, especially Synthetic.Nightmare's ROM but Jellybean is getting better so I might try that for a week see how it goes.
0.0's ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784629

JB is great. There are a couple things that don't work. You could, i don't know, CHECK THE THREADS!

eyard75 said:
To those of you using JB on the MT4G: how is it? Stable? Good enough to be a daily driver? Everything important working for you?
I'd love to flash JB on my MT4G but I'm not sure if it's stable enough yet and the ROM threads are long and winding enough that I have trouble following them. I have a phone with the dodgy eMMC chip so I'd rather not spend all day flashing ROMs to try them out myself and possibly killing my phone in the process. I'd love to find a JB ROM that has all major features working and is close to stock JB (I don't like too much bling in my ROMs).
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JB is great if you don't really need video recording and FFC.
It's stable enough for a DD.
I was using CNA for awhile and then I used Awesome's Toasted Marshmallow since release.

Rocking 0.0's desire S port since he posted it... Loving it so much that I haven't even bothered flashing anything else.
Rock solid on my device. Just need ffc really... But we all know about that.
JB rocks.
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There are other viable options than 0.0's ROM like Awesome's Toasted Marshmallow, which many people run and have success as their daily driver. It's really your choice!

eyard75 said:
To those of you using JB on the MT4G: how is it? Stable? Good enough to be a daily driver? Everything important working for you?
I'd love to flash JB on my MT4G but I'm not sure if it's stable enough yet and the ROM threads are long and winding enough that I have trouble following them. I have a phone with the dodgy eMMC chip so I'd rather not spend all day flashing ROMs to try them out myself and possibly killing my phone in the process. I'd love to find a JB ROM that has all major features working and is close to stock JB (I don't like too much bling in my ROMs).
Thanks!
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I've tried many of them, but I personally like Toasted Marshmallow from ...Awesome... It is a very stable ROM. A couple of items that don't work are Front Facing Camera (FFC) and Wifi Calling, but those are not an issue with the ROM, they are more akin to not having an official JB kernel for the MT4G. I'm anxious for Wifi Calling to get released on another JB ROM so we can port it. Good luck with whichever ROM you decide on.

For those who tried both ICS and JB, how would you rate JB compared to ICS? Much faster and more stable? Currently I'm running on Awesome DarkUnicorn 2.5 and it is very good except for: 1. some camera apps from the market won't work 2. USB tethering doesn't work.

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For those who tried both ICS and JB, how would you rate JB compared to ICS? Much faster and more stable? Currently I'm running on Awesome DarkUnicorn 2.5 and it is very good except for: 1. some camera apps from the market won't work 2. USB tethering doesn't work.
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Most peeps claim jb is faster than ICS as it should be being a update but for me ICS has been faster .
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ibuddler said:
For those who tried both ICS and JB, how would you rate JB compared to ICS? Much faster and more stable? Currently I'm running on Awesome DarkUnicorn 2.5 and it is very good except for: 1. some camera apps from the market won't work 2. USB tethering doesn't work.
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JB's UI is faster, ICS's games, apps, and everything else are faster and more stable (we have had a lot more time to perfect it)

THEindian said:
JB's UI is faster, ICS's games, apps, and everything else are faster and more stable (we have had a lot more time to perfect it)
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Thank you. So I guess once 3.0 is out, JB would be better than ICS? I didn't experience any UI lag on my ICS. So I guess I will stay on ICS for now.

ibuddler said:
Thank you. So I guess once 3.0 is out, JB would be better than ICS? I didn't experience any UI lag on my ICS. So I guess I will stay on ICS for now.
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No. Once 3.0 is fixed to work as well on our devices and all the jb optimizations are added in, THEN jb will surely be better than ics. As is, comparing the UI of jb to ics (aospx) I noticed no difference in UI. Though some people swear its buttery smooth and soo much better... even though its running a 2.6 kernel optimized for ics (not jb)... the only thing I've found to be smoother in jb is the browser.
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Use the button bro.
Also, Synthetic, like the new sig pic man!

Get me to the REVOLUTION !

I've read amazing things about the Android Revolution ROM, and I can see from the poll how it has (apparently) way more users than any other ROM.
So I have a question for Revolution fans: now that I'm addicted to the look and feel and small and big features of Jellybean ... how can I possibly go back to a Gingerbread environment?
No kidding, sell me to the idea because I can't bear myself to seriously try it, as I feel like GB will somehow make my device older, slower, feature-poor, unwieldy, etc.
(I was there when GB was the latest and sexyest, and I loved it, up untill ICS and then JB came along)
I guess it is all just a mental hickup of mine.
So please, help me get past it ... tell me what would be the catch in going back to a GB environment

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That explains a lot... good thing I chose to wait until next morning to reply XD

Drunk or not, but ARHD v10 ICS Sense4 is coming nevertheless!

good to know
but it still doesn't answer my doubts... which then will become ICS-vs-JB instead of GB-vs-JB

with gb your camera working better
your device is faster and the quality of sound is awesome..jb doesnt fit to your device you like it or not
you have desire hd i supose right?

yep, I've got a DesireHD bought 3 years ago, in Italy.
So you're saying that performance (and various apps, like Camera) is actually better ... considerind how Jellytime and Cyanogen are behaving in a bat**** crazy way in the past few days (and the new CodefireXperimental 4.3 is yet to come out) I guess I'll give it a try
Is 7.3 the latest for DHD? ...from the original Revolution post it seems the latest would be 9.0 but I can't find the download link for my device
Ok, scratch that last part, I'm more asleep than I originally thought ... found the 9.0 files XD

silvano2 said:
with gb your camera working better
your device is faster and the quality of sound is awesome..jb doesnt fit to your device you like it or not
you have desire hd i supose right?
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I doubt the camera in Sense 4 is any worse, and on AOSP you can always install MIUI one from GB which does a really decent job on DHD.
SQ is also great on Sense4. Now as for the "faster", this is a bold stament. To be more specific GB is more responsive, better on multitasking, but ICS/JB is way smoother (there is no comparison when browsing) and it still isn't slow or laggy at all.

use this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127250
trust me

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Drunk or not, but ARHD v10 ICS Sense4 is coming nevertheless!
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WHAT?! when did they release the kernel/ROM?!?!
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