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I would like to use this post to document any way to manual root .596 gingerbread. I know p3droid is doing awesome work building prerooted updates but having a manual route is always nice.
Thank you everyone.
Edit...mistyped version number.
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Its .596 ................
I did. Since I was on the .595 and I had the older radio, I had to SBF back to 2.3.340 first and because of that I had to lose my recent data (last froyo nandroid was two months ago). Anyways it seems to be nearly identical to the .595 once it is up and running. My two cents
I have an X that's running stock Gingerbread, and I'd like to root it. So a manual root method that doesn't require SBFing back to Froyo would be very welcome...
Why does everyone act like SBF'ing is so hard? It takes ten to fifteen minutes and has the same amount if not less risk than flashing a rom
It's not that it is hard, but at least I would hate to loose all my data & time spent setting up the phone.
But if this is the only method of getting root I will be sbf'ing soon. But I wonder what this means for the Droid X2 which I assume is already on GB 596 out of the box. So can the X2 not ever be rooted since there is no 340 to go back too???
I am also curious about manual rooting. I don't have a problem SBF'ing and have done it many times. I would like to learn more about Android and its internals.
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It's not that it is hard, but at least I would hate to loose all my data & time spent setting up the phone.
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I used Titanium Backup to backup all apps and user data, then restore after the upgrade to GB. Don't have to spend a ton of time setting up the phone.
It's the configuring the phone, not the SBF that's the issue
I concur -- SBF is simply, straight forward and quick. The problem is the amount of time it takes to get the phone set up again, especially moving from one flavor of Android to another. I've got 15 minutes to SBF. I don't have the hour or two to fiddle with the apps, configurations, etc.
So I second the call for a method to root stock Gingerbread. I miss my ad blocker...
I have read that gingerbreak works intermittently on some but not all .596 droid x's.
Current method to root works fine thanks to P3droid method 2. If you already have a prerooted 2.2 running the latest OTA you just need two files to install and you will have a .596 rooted droid x. If you jumped the gun and installed the OTA... then yes you need to find a way to root your .596...
Setting up SBF for the first time is not difficult just a little scary. Luckily there are alot of guides out there to help and the bootloader didn't change. Good luck!
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But if this is the only method of getting root I will be sbf'ing soon. But I wonder what this means for the Droid X2 which I assume is already on GB 596 out of the box. So can the X2 not ever be rooted since there is no 340 to go back too???
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its kinda weird but the droid x2 shipps with 2.2.2, just the newer form of blur like the gingerbread droid x has. Also, it has been able to be rooted by gingerbreak so i guess there's some hope.
So for the last few days I have decided to root my phone but it is so confusing for me.
Droid x specs: 2.3 gingerbread... 596
baseband ends in 12p
my friend told me to use clockwork reset or reformat... something like that and then use clock work root.
ive been googling and using this website forever and i need help.
I would appreciate it if somebody could walk me through this. Thank you
Download Droid x bootstrapper or Droid 2 bootstrapper,,and u can root with z4 root or gingerbreak,,make a backup download a rom,download and install busybox and tittanium back up make a back up of all your apps and data with tittanium,,but also make a back up of your original rom,,,to get started rite now go to the android market and download (root and me Free) it will explain alot and help u out a bunch down load it now root and me free
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thx bro do i get boot strapper from online? and for titaniium back up and stuff how do i do the rom back ups sorry for being stupid im just new to this
Thanks
Also, on the app store bootstrap says " YOU MUST BE ROOTED TO USE THIS APPLICATION. FOR DROID X ONLY."
and u said use this then root... im confused.
If you dive into this before your really ready, it's likely that you'll end up with a brick and not know how to back out. The only solution is to search and read until you are comfortable with the entire process. Google tutorials on how to root gingerbread stock. It involves SBFing back to froyo, rooting with z4root, installing bootstrap, and flashing, but that is only the broadest of summaries. You really should understand the whole process BEFORE jumping in. That said, it's not really all that hard with a little research. Good luck!
i got my dx about a week ago. i am rooted running cm7 nightlies now. i came from the inc and ran new roms every week on that and kernels and new recoveries all the time. it took a day or so to understand how the dx works...
this is what i found
my dx came with 2.3 on it. i tried z4root and gingerbreak and neither worked. after reading alot i found sbf looked like the best route. I sbf'd back to 2.2 (Froyo) I then ran z4root and bang I had root. rebooted and i used dxgbrooted stock image. i downloaded both dx bootstrapper and d2 bootstrapper. d2 is for gb based roms, dx is for 2.2 based. i had a bunch of trouble with the bootstrappers and it was annoying. i continued to run the dxgbrooted rom and i hated it, it so freaking slow and crappy. i then flashed a nightly of cm7 and i bootlooped, so i had to sbf and root the thing again and reinstall cm7 nightly, i havent been happier since. these stock based roms and cool UI features motoblur and sense, they suck IMO and i like vanilla or cm7.
I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
floridatank said:
I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
floridatank said:
I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
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Nope! Like I said its unrootable
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Unrootable...
But that doesn't mean you can't root.
SBF to froyo.
Flash the 2-part gingerbread .zips.
Flash a custom rom (Liberty?)
Or stay on the froyo kernel...
and try MIUI or Cyanogen.
Be careful and read as much as you possibly can before starting. Myself and at least one other on here with the latest iteration of the X have ended up with boot looping or totally non-responsive devices.
I have started a thread with my findings. I am by no means an expert but I do have much experience with rooting devices going all the way back to the PPC6700.
Good luck.
getting stuck in a bootloop is part of the exploration process IMHO.
At least once per new ROM I'll flash something 'just to see what happens' and end up SBF'ing back. Just make backups between steps if you aren't sure about what will happen next.
it would be nice if one of the devs or people who work on rooting or someone in the know would at least comment if we are going to get a real root with the OTA
i mean im running froyo with CM7 but i sure would like the new firmwares for all the radios flashed and then be running CM7
so if someone could give us some kind of update at least saying no one is even remotely working on trying to gain root on 4.5.596 Official OTA or that yea we are working on it but it is a ***** and taken longer then we expected
that lil bit of info goes a long ways
thanks
I am not aware of any dev working on this ATM.
I don't think rooting 596 ota is critical 2nd unit has opened up alot of new doors and the attention has shifted. However I have flashed all of drew gardens latest and ran cm4dx until nightly 47. Now I'm daily MIUI and loving it, despite locked bootloader the cdma_shadow still has alot of options.
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to my understanding .596 has better battery life and signals are better for wifi and cellular (at least more stable and less drops)
i do not know if this is true but i have read/heard alot of ppl saying the battery life is better on .596
after all there is a .596 for some reason and its not a lil bump from 2.2.340 its pretty big
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
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anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
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the big deal is that there isn't a readily found exploit for the ota, the pre-rooted was done with a diff. method (brute force? recompiled?) but the versions are the same regardless
no ones holding back a secret root method, there just isn't a dev interested in spending huge amounts of time to recreate what already exists
i think it would be interesting to create a batch script that sbf's a phone and installs the pre-rooted .596 but all hidden behind a random animation so the user doesn't see what's happening. if i call it a 'one click' root method lots of people who don't seem to want to take the readily available pre-rooted gb for whatever reason would likely be happy. yeah i understand that if it includes a sbf then data may get lost, but if i said in the instructions of my 'app' that it would happen and they should have backups, people would still likely use it
sorry, but i just don't understand why so many people who want root are seemingly against using the pre-rooted option, as most of them don't have the knowledge to find an exploit or a root method from scratch themselves, so they are still using the work of someone else...
<Disclaimer>I'm going out on a limb here with limited knowledge of the X. <End disclaimer>
From what I read and I don't remember where, the rooting of an X involves a 2nd init method by which it takes control of the initial init. I believe I read the original init isn't able to be exploited and this is the basis of some of the more complicated methods of rooting the X.
If someone knows more about this please correct me or chime in.
I had an Incredible prior. The rooting was more comprehensive and simple. I believe that is because the bootstrap and recovery were not as difficult to get into. That being said, personally, I may be going back to another HTC device if the folks light years smarter than me aren't interested in developing a root method like the other devices out there.
Anyone with luck flashing a Milestone X w/ a custom ROM?
Running Rooted 2.3.5 w/bloatware removed (but backed up) along w/ DROID X Bootstrapper.
Have made my first full system backup using this tool.
If complete ROMS could not be used, what components would I need to modify, replace, ... exchange to get it to work on C-Spire (say, Verizon).
I've heard that there are some ROMS that don't mess with the baseband and other communications settings, files, frequencies, protocol, etc... What are these type called if they exist? Where can I find them? Are these a safer alternative to full ROMS?
Will DX Bootstrapper get the job done? Reports ClockworkMod REcovery v2.5.0.6.
I would recommend staying off custom roms for the Milestone X until a working sbf for us makes an appearance. Myself and ngholson both had issues where we got stuck in a bootloop and the sbf just output more errors until a replacement device was needed.
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I would recommend staying off custom roms for the Milestone X until a working sbf for us makes an appearance. Myself and ngholson both had issues where we got stuck in a bootloop and the sbf just output more errors until a replacement device was needed.
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agreed. [10chars...............
another thing to consider, since we cannot sbf at this time, is that the bootstrapper will break your ability to install any future ota updates. it modifies the logwrapper and makes a copy called logwrapper.bin, however, uninstalling the bootstrapper and restoring the logwrapper file does not correct the problem. best i can tell the only answer that i can find when this happens is to sbf back to stock... well you see where this is going.... currently we cannot do this, so unless you never want the ota upgrades i do not recommend installing the bootstrapper on cspire's milestone x.
oh well nevermind went back and re-read your post, you already have the bootstrapper installed. (at least you did it after ota)
here is a link to the post that has the sbf that is reported to work with cell south (cspire) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117885
maybe someone else can try it again and report back.
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SBF flash for MB809 - Milestone X Generic North America
SHADO_X6_3.1.39_SHADOW_BP_C_02.06.00R_AP_BP_Flex_1E_signed_secure_dist_1ff_P3_USERBLD.sbf.gz
http://www.filesonic.com/file/11766...x_1E_signed_secure_dist_1ff_P3_USERBLD.sbf.gz
Compression MD5 - BF942D55992C774446F24B56116649A1
SBF MD5 - 2EAEBD1540D563114523BEB09539A8AF
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Well I can confirm it works on Cellular South.
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I can confirm that the old sbf it does not work after ota update. I had to get a new phone. I have rooted, but I am not installing a bootstrapper until a working sbf is available. Hopefully that will happen soon.
I am on C spire out of Byram, MS and can in fact confirm that "Droid X Bootstrapper" from the market indeed works like a charm on the Milestone X with stock versions 2.2.2 and 2.3.5.
I use "Super One Click" to root, then the same prog to "Allow non market apps" then buy "Droid X Bootstrapper" from market, run it. Reboot while holding camera button and power button,,,,voila
Confirmed roms that I have and currently run or ran: CM 7 nightlies, Liberty 1.5, and Fission 2.5.7 DroidX
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A little trick I figured out to sbf back to stock,,,,download the latest ota from Cspire "Blur_Version.3.2.6.MB809.ACG-CellSouth.en.US" blah blah,,,,,rename it to "update.zip",,,,not "update.zip.zip"put it on the root of your sd card and boot into stock recovery or clockwork mod and run update.......BLAM! Simple as that...
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A little trick I figured out to sbf back to stock,,,,download the latest ota from Cspire "Blur_Version.3.2.6.MB809.ACG-CellSouth.en.US" blah blah,,,,,rename it to "update.zip",,,,not "update.zip.zip"put it on the root of your sd card and boot into stock recovery or clockwork mod and run update.......BLAM! Simple as that...
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i tried that too it didn't work for me.
I dunno,,,, it worked for me twice. I tried to update cwm from the app using the flash for droid x and it messed up my recovery. So i updated to the latest ota from Cspire via the stock android recovery by naming the ota file to update.zip and running it like that.
I'm running CM7 nightlies for the droid x on the Milestone x....you might have to remove the line of code in the update file that asked for Kernel assert,,,,I can't remember, but seems like it kept giving me an error that says, "assert failed: run_program("/tmp/check_kernel") but after that all was fine.
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I dunno,,,, it worked for me twice. I tried to update cwm from the app using the flash for droid x and it messed up my recovery. So i updated to the latest ota from Cspire via the stock android recovery by naming the ota file to update.zip and running it like that.
I'm running CM7 nightlies for the droid x on the Milestone x....you might have to remove the line of code in the update file that asked for Kernel assert,,,,I can't remember, but seems like it kept giving me an error that says, "assert failed: run_program("/tmp/check_kernel") but after that all was fine.
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is there a reason that your not using the new liberty rom and used 1.5?
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is there a reason that your not using the new liberty rom and used 1.5?
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Nah, it's a cool rom .....I'm just a flash whore. I like cm7 nightlies the best though.
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Nah, it's a cool rom .....I'm just a flash whore. I like cm7 nightlies the best though.
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what has been the best in your opinion? i just upgraded from the hero and was running aosp and loved it.
i actually like some of the blur apps, hard to believe that i like a custom ui on android lol.
i have been reading on the droid x vs milestone x and i am weary of flashing update that also includes the radio/baseband.
what version of cm7 nightfiles are you on? any complaints?
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I dunno,,,, it worked for me twice. I tried to update cwm from the app using the flash for droid x and it messed up my recovery. So i updated to the latest ota from Cspire via the stock android recovery by naming the ota file to update.zip and running it like that.
I'm running CM7 nightlies for the droid x on the Milestone x....you might have to remove the line of code in the update file that asked for Kernel assert,,,,I can't remember, but seems like it kept giving me an error that says, "assert failed: run_program("/tmp/check_kernel") but after that all was fine.
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I am getting the exact same error. Where do I need to go to eliminate this line of code. I have setup everything else up until this point and it works perfectly with recovery and everything. A bit of help please.
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I am getting the exact same error. Where do I need to go to eliminate this line of code. I have setup everything else up until this point and it works perfectly with recovery and everything. A bit of help please.
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Open the ROM zip and go: META-INF/com/google/android/ and in the updater-script, remove the code that asked for Kernel assert.
tylorjefcoat said:
what has been the best in your opinion? i just upgraded from the hero and was running aosp and loved it.
i actually like some of the blur apps, hard to believe that i like a custom ui on android lol.
i have been reading on the droid x vs milestone x and i am weary of flashing update that also includes the radio/baseband.
what version of cm7 nightfiles are you on? any complaints?
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I too just upgraded from the Hero....and I still love that phone! My hero has had every rom known on it,,,and some that weren't even made for it....It's unbrickable! LOL
Yea, the Milestone is a little more finicky than the Hero, and with Motorola's locked bootloaders, one could get in a fix..
I've ran the past 3 nightlies and currently on cm_shadow_full-154.zip.
I tell ya, they all have some kind of bug somewhere. It all depends on what you want to put up with. Me, personally, I like the stock ota 2.3.5 from Cspire. It works. Plain and simple. Now, I would like some of the CM7 options and spare parts.
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Open the ROM zip and go: META-INF/com/google/android/ and in the updater-script, remove the code that asked for Kernel assert.
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Open the updater-script with notepad (new to this) and found no mention of kernel assert. Almost there...a bit more help would get me in.
It should be the top 3 lines, if I remember correctly.... I checked it out on my phone to make sure but,,,, duh, I already removed it (face palm).
It's in there somewhere.
Run install again and right down all the errors... Then try to find them in the script file.
I'm new to this also (as far as motorola stuff) too. And I take risks that most people wouldn't..... Hell, if I mess something up bad enough , just sbf back.
I'll try to help you more when I get off work... Maybe send you my roms that have already been fixed.
Make sure to turn off script and signature asserts off in cwm... Sometimes that helps.
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It should be the top 3 lines, if I remember correctly.... I checked it out on my phone to make sure but,,,, duh, I already removed it (face palm).
It's in there somewhere.
Run install again and right down all the errors... Then try to find them in the script file.
I'm new to this also (as far as motorola stuff) too. And I take risks that most people wouldn't..... Hell, if I mess something up bad enough , just sbf back.
I'll try to help you more when I get off work... Maybe send you my roms that have already been fixed.
Make sure to turn off script and signature asserts off in cwm... Sometimes that helps.
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Thank you sir! I'm gonna try that.
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I too just upgraded from the Hero....and I still love that phone! My hero has had every rom known on it,,,and some that weren't even made for it....It's unbrickable! LOL
Yea, the Milestone is a little more finicky than the Hero, and with Motorola's locked bootloaders, one could get in a fix..
I've ran the past 3 nightlies and currently on cm_shadow_full-154.zip.
I tell ya, they all have some kind of bug somewhere. It all depends on what you want to put up with. Me, personally, I like the stock ota 2.3.5 from Cspire. It works. Plain and simple. Now, I would like some of the CM7 options and spare parts.
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I despised that phone lol, wait i take that back, i guess i had "phone" envy lol Mine was a rom whore as well, it was rooted almost immediately after i got it with the ole gold card method.
the ota 2.3.5 is actually a good CLEAN rom, i do like the fact that it is so clean, just need a few tweaks as you said from the cm7 build, status bar tweaks ect..
may build up one.
built a rom for a tablet we are selling here, BIG learning curve but the locked boot-loader throws a real curve ball
now, have you gotten it to overclock?
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. Hell, if I mess something up bad enough , just sbf back.
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that still amazes me. i haven't tried it on 2.3.5, but when i did it from stock 2.2.2 it was a no go.... maybe it will only work if you are already on 2.3? hell i dunno... motorola has me chasing my tail.... like everyone else, i came from the hero too, that was one awesome little phone. i read somewhere that the motorola bootloader had been cracked by someone on here but..... not sure what ever happened there.....
I want to flash a custom ROM onto my DX, but I'm pretty new to the game. I've rooted, and have installed ROM Manager, and Titanium backup, etc, but am a bit gun-shy about going the custom ROM route, mostly due to inexperience.
I see that CMx and Liberty are the popular ROMs for DX, but I'm not sure which is the better one to go with. It seems that CMx is feature-packed, but has battery issues. Is this true? Is there a stock Android ROM for DX out there?
Also, it seems like in some cases, like with CMx, that you have to downgrade to an earlier firmware version first. Is this still the case with DX, and is it common for flashing any DX custom ROM?
Thanks,
Mike
Check my sig sir. I recommend using that guide.
And CM7 or MIUI (Use wizards defy 2 build.)
Jubakuba, your sig link isn't working
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I want to flash a custom ROM onto my DX, but I'm pretty new to the game. I've rooted, and have installed ROM Manager, and Titanium backup, etc, but am a bit gun-shy about going the custom ROM route, mostly due to inexperience.
I see that CMx and Liberty are the popular ROMs for DX, but I'm not sure which is the better one to go with. It seems that CMx is feature-packed, but has battery issues. Is this true? Is there a stock Android ROM for DX out there?
Also, it seems like in some cases, like with CMx, that you have to downgrade to an earlier firmware version first. Is this still the case with DX, and is it common for flashing any DX custom ROM?
Thanks,
Mike
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Rom flashing is a completely safe and reversible process. Before you begin flashing roms though, familiarize yourself with the SBFing process.
Cm7 doesn't necessarily have battery issues, it just doesn't get as much batter life as roms such as Vortex and Liberty. Cm7 is probably as close to AOSP as you will want to get.
You DO NOT have to downgrade for Cm7. You can, but it is not recommended unless you want to run the official nightlies (which aren't as good as the unofficial nightlies).
When you begin your foray in to rom flashing remember to always use Droid 2 Bootstrapper and never use Droid X Bootstrapper.
Sorry, I have no Idea why that darn thing isn't accepting BB code...
But either way, copy and paste will work. Or here's the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374281
Thanks guys, looks like I've got some reading for my sick day today!
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It may seem slightly daunting...
But if you're anything like me...
Just jumping on in really does make it easier.
I promise you if you follow my tutorial...It isn't like most tutorials.
Remember doing the very basic PB&J tutorial in school?
Where you had to say every single step...
Get bread.
Open jar.
Dip knife in jar...blablabla.
That's how I based my tut.
It's very easy to follow!
Roms
I have tried MIUI So on and so forth. Im privy to using liquid smooth roms. For the X. http://liquidsmoothroms.com/node/1
Quick follow on question, I noticed there's a Droid X bootstrap recovery app in addition to the droid 2 one. Should I still stick with the droid 2 ones according to the guide?
Thanks again,
Mike
Whoops, sorry just reread the earlier comment about avoiding the DX bootstrap. Never mind...
So, I installed Liberty 3.0, and have been very happy. More stable, faster, longer battery life. Wish I did this months ago. Went from hating my DX on a daily basis to loving it again. It's like a new phone.
The only problem now is that Verizon's pushing out their latest update, and I don't want it. Last thing I want to see is Blur on my phone again. Is there a way to disable this update?
Don't know if Liberty take OTA verizon update, would think it would be disabled. But on stock ROM freeze updater in titanium would prevent the OTA. I just did it last week as I didn't want the latest OTA reminder continuously popping up until I know how it panned out.
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It's just listed as "updater 2.3.3", right? Just want to make sure I freeze the right thing.
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It's just listed as "updater 2.3.3", right? Just want to make sure I freeze the right thing.
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I think so. That or 'OTA Updater'.
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It's just listed as "updater 2.3.3", right? Just want to make sure I freeze the right thing.
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