[Q] Lost Root.. can't regain... HELP - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok, so my wife's phone has to go back to TMOBILE by Friday Sept 21st, I have Virtuous Affinity on it and I Unrooted with VISIONary not thinking that i should have flashed something stock first. I now cannot regain root for some reason using VISIONary or even flashing a PD15IMG through bootloader,,, I'm not comfortable at all with ADB, please help if there is another way. Anyone?
Calming

Is your phone still s-off?
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Visionary only roots the ROM. If you're still S-Off you have the ability to write to the partitions through adb or recovery.
Tell us what happens when you try to flash PD15IMG.zip
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Still s-off... Flashing the P15IMG shows the progress bar on the right, then either reboots in its own or I reboot it... Still goes back to custom Rom.
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calming said:
Still s-off... Flashing the P15IMG shows the progress bar on the right, then either reboots in its own or I reboot it... Still goes back to custom Rom.
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Did you verify the md5? You could have a bad download.
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estallings15 said:
Did you verify the md5? You could have a bad download.
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I downloaded multiple versions including the 2.2.1, 2.3.4, and 2.34 (new) version... all those did similiar things, still not getting me back to stock. Does it make a difference that I have a custom rom with 2.3.5 on it?
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calming said:
I downloaded multiple versions including the 2.2.1, 2.3.4, and 2.34 (new) version... all those did similiar things, still not getting me back to stock. Does it make a difference that I have a custom rom with 2.3.5 on it?
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Why would it make a difference? Also, if it did, I would have asked you about it.
The only reason a good download will not install, usually, is if either you're on an unlocked bootloader from htc-dev, or something is wrong with either your bootloader or phone.
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How to flash back to stock?

I need to do a warranty on my phone, how do I unroot and go back to stock? I tried on way and it didn't work? what did you guys do?
Mercuri82 said:
I need to do a warranty on my phone, how do I unroot and go back to stock? I tried on way and it didn't work? what did you guys do?
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Do a search for pd15img.zip.
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Look in the development section. There are a ton of step by step guides if you search.
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To revert back all you need to is flash the original tmobile rom that is in the rom development and it will take u back to the original state without root
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Phateless said:
Do a search for pd15img.zip.
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Find the above file, have it saved to root of sdcard, boot into bootloader, bootloader will find the file on the card and prompt to install the stock image... follow prompts and done.
Nandroid first but really is easy.
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I first flashed the 2.2.1 OTA. Then I flashed the stock recovery. Afterwards, flashed the stock radio. That's what I did. All are available in the Development section.
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I first flashed the 2.2.1 OTA. Then I flashed the stock recovery. Afterwards, flashed the stock radio. That's what I did. All are available in the Development section.
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You could have used pd15img.zip to do all of that in one flash via hboot.
It's safer to flash back to the stock radio first to avoid getting stuck in a limbo situation in which attempting to flash back to stock results in "Main version older" with radio s-on rather than do it all in one step.
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crawler9 said:
It's safer to flash back to the stock radio first to avoid getting stuck in a limbo situation in which attempting to flash back to stock results in "Main version older" with radio s-on rather than do it all in one step.
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thats what im stuck in and cannot find a way out ! any advice?
Do you have root or are you on a stock unrooted ROM?
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I'm on cyqnogen 7.1.0 but with s on
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crawler9 said:
Do you have root or are you on a stock unrooted ROM?
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im s on since i tried to flash original rom but im still on cyanogen 7.1.0
emilianos said:
im s on since i tried to flash original rom but im still on cyanogen 7.1.0
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This guide should solve your problem. It involves hex editing the misc.img among other things to allow you to successfully flash back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-832642.html
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Mercuri82 said:
I need to do a warranty on my phone, how do I unroot and go back to stock? I tried on way and it didn't work? what did you guys do?
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If you used the gfree method of rooting, the following guide is pretty good:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/16/how-to-unroot-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g/
Hope this helps.
this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832642 may help
conganhthuc said:
this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832642 may help
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Mhm, that's what I posted 2 posts above yours. Good idea btw!
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Flash a new radio on a unrooted phone.

Is it possible.
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I'm pretty sure it is but personally I wouldn't try it.
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If I remember correctly you can't. You need to be fully rooted meaning s-off. Basically s-off means radio sercurity off,among other things turned off. If you try to flash anything through clocklworkmod recovery without s-off,either nothing will happen or your phone will be bricked an you will have to buy a complete new phone. Best thing to do is fully root(s-off). If you need help rooting your phone,send me a pm,an ill help you out.
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Mr.Highway said:
If I remember correctly you can't. You need to be fully rooted meaning s-off. Basically s-off means radio sercurity off,among other things turned off. If you try to flash anything through clocklworkmod recovery without s-off,either nothing will happen or your phone will be bricked an you will have to buy a complete new phone. Best thing to do is fully root(s-off). If you need help rooting your phone,send me a pm,an ill help you out.
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You're right that you must be rooted to flash in recovery, but you do not flash radios in recovery. They are flashed in the bootloader, and I'm not sure root access is required to flash a PD15IMG.zip file in the bootloader. I'm leaning towards root not being required, but I don't know for sure. Might as well go ahead and try it. The worst that could happen is you get the "access denied" message and the installation aborts.
I was thinking that about the radio, I just flashed my first one. After having my phone rooted for 6months. Only reason why I said root the phone. Is to make sure he has full control over the phone. An it takes some risks out,some but not all.
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Yea, I was about to say you don't use cwm to flash a new radio but you got it. : P lol
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Its my girls phone, she wanted the latest but won't let me root it. (Personally I have no idea why) girls I tell ya. Haha. Thanks again everyone.
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If you ever need anymore help,feel free to send me a message.
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Radios can be flashed in bootloader - otherwise stock firmware updates wouldn't be able to upgrade radios - but they most probably need to be signed to be flashed by S-ON bootloader. In that case, the answer to the OP would be "no".

OTA Update

Does anyone know for sure if I can flash the gingerbread update pd15img.zip even though I'm rooted by gfree with the eng hboot?
I can't get the unroot method to work, that's why i'm asking.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
Does anyone know for sure if I can flash the gingerbread update pd15img.zip even though I'm rooted by gfree with the eng hboot?
I can't get the unroot method to work, that's why i'm asking.
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Flash the rooted version in recovery, wipe every thing first
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bmakk2055 said:
Flash the unrooted version in recovery, wipe every thing first
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You can't flash a PD15IMG.zip RUU in recovery. It's only flashable in the bootloader.
Please don't post advice if you don't know what you're talking about.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
No dip, I'm not stupid.
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bmakk2055 posted incorrect information, so I posted the correct info for the benefit of you or anyone else who might come across this thread. Take a chill pill, bud.
Either way, neither of you have answered the question, so I don't care. You could've kept that comment to yourself and so could he cause he obviously doesn't know a thing about what I'm talking about.
To others who view this, please don't post unless you know the answer. Thanks.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
Either way, neither of you have answered the question, so I don't care. You could've kept that comment to yourself and so could he cause he obviously doesn't know a thing about what I'm talking about.
To others who view this, please don't post unless you know the answer. Thanks.
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It wasn't a random "comment". XDA is a database like all forums, so even if you already knew the answer yourself, it's important to correct misinformation for anyone who may come across this thread in the future.
Not cool of you to get mad at him when he's just trying to help you.
That kind of an attitude will just deter people away from even wanting to help you out.
Just sayin'.
To answer your OP, why not use the Froyo PD15IMG.zip? Are you trying to unroot your phone?
Using the GB PD15IMG.zip probably wouldn't be the best idea even if it worked. Because if it worked then you're stuck at GB which can't be rooted ATM.
mackster248 said:
Not cool of you to get mad at him when he's just trying to help you.
That kind of an attitude will just deter people away from even wanting to help you out.
Just sayin'.
To answer your OP, why not use the Froyo PD15IMG.zip? Are you trying to unroot your phone?
Using the GB PD15IMG.zip probably wouldn't be the best idea even if it worked. Because if it worked then you're stuck at GB which can't be rooted ATM.
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I want the update though. And last time I did the froyo zip while perm rooted with gfree and stock hboot, it bricked the phone. I'm trying to collect all the info first cause apparently I want supposed to do that unless I have eng hboot.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
I want the update though. And last time I did the froyo zip while perm rooted with gfree and stock hboot, it bricked the phone. I'm trying to collect all the info first cause apparently I want supposed to do that unless I have eng hboot.
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Then why not just flash the update? There's like 3 flashable versions out there in the developmental section.
I flashed it last night, not that great. Don't know how you could choose that over Virtual Unity's Sense 3.0, but I guess to each their own.
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mackster248 said:
Then why not just flash the update? There's like 3 flashable versions out there in the developmental section.
I flashed it last night, not that great. Don't know how you could choose that over Virtual Unity's Sense 3.0, but I guess to each their own.
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I have the 'bad' chip and I'm trying to lose root just in case something happens, I also want the update cause froyo was glitchy and I'm starting to have tiny but irritating issues with unity, like wifi calling and my home screen disappearing.
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[Q] Possible to flash CMW after OTA GB update?

Is it possible to flash Clockwork Mod Recovery after applying the 2.3.4 update?
Yes if you have s-off
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How about for us people with s-off and stock 2.3.4? Are we stuck on this ROM until someone gets root?
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shilent said:
How about for us people with s-off and stock 2.3.4? Are we stuck on this ROM until someone gets root?
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no if you have s-off you can flash Clockwork Mod Recovery or you can downgrade
I meant s-on. So its still possible to downgrade?
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shilent said:
I meant s-on. So its still possible to downgrade?
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I believe that they are working on a way to break 2.3.4 still. I haven't noticed any post confirming a successful root of the OTA update.
There has been some talk about gingerbreak doing something but it was experimental and I didn't do a whole lot of digging so I wouldn't recommend even trying.
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I meant s-on. So its still possible to downgrade?
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yes you can downgrade with s-on here you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
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I meant s-on. So its still possible to downgrade?
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Follow the instructions on this thread and you should be able to downgrade then root.
I'm on stock 2. 3. 4 s -off and can't flash cw
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Does anyone know if there's an updated guide to downgrading? I think the links (like to download the JAVA JDK) needs to be updated. I've spent hours reading and trying to find exactly what I need to download. I've tried installing 3 different JDK and none of them will let me install the Android SDK.
Edit: I found a fix to my problem. The Android SDK wasn't detecting JDK, all I had to do was click back then next, WTF...
shilent said:
Edit: I found a fix to my problem. The Android SDK wasn't detecting JDK, all I had to do was click back then next, WTF...
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Isn't that maddening? That pissed me off so bad. I was like come on! Who uses the freaking back button? I mean really?
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dbm0361 said:
I'm on stock 2. 3. 4 s -off and can't flash cw
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Have you tried mark manning's mod located Here? I believe this would help you with your problem.
I flashed the. Bootloader but get permissions failed on cwm install
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16276020
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problems with tmobile

I am having horrible reception (1, 2, no bars, no service, emerg call only) and can never get 3G or H signal icons. I am constantly on EDGE. These problems are occurring at places where i usually have great reception. Whats the problem?
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I am having horrible reception (1, 2, no bars, no service, emerg call only) and can never get 3G or H signal icons. I am constantly on EDGE. These problems are occurring at places where i usually have great reception. Whats the problem?
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If you're rooted, then flash a custom radio. Find the thread in the dev section.
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saranhai said:
If you're rooted, then flash a custom radio. Find the thread in the dev section.
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which radio is recommended the most. im using miui atm
fragmentttt said:
which radio is recommended the most. im using miui atm
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thats up to you to find out each radio works differently in other areas. Im assuming youre on the stock radio, your next best bet would be to try the panache radio. btw, MIUI is a rom not a radio. just flash each radio til you find the right one for you
Is there any way I can just put the zip onto my sd card and flash? Because the radio thread in dev says I need to put it into adb folder, and I have no idea how to use Android sdk...
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Is there any way I can just put the zip onto my sd card and flash? Because the radio thread in dev says I need to put it into adb folder, and I have no idea how to use Android sdk...
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First check file with am md5 checker then put file on root of sd card then boot into bootloader then flash it from there.
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cnote74 said:
First check file with am md5 checker then put file on root of sd card then boot into bootloader then flash it from there.
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I tried it and the hboot loaded the thing but got stuck in parsing sd zip
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fragmentttt said:
I tried it and the hboot loaded the thing but got stuck in parsing sd zip
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Might be a bad download I would try re downloading it again. Do you have the engineering bootloader?
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cnote74 said:
Might be a bad download I would try re downloading it again. Do you have the engineering bootloader?
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What's the engineering bootloader?
my bootloader (im assuming) looks somewhat like this:
http://theandroidsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/20110603083832.jpg
fragmentttt said:
What's the engineering bootloader?
my bootloader (im assuming) looks somewhat like this:
http://theandroidsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/20110603083832.jpg
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...wait you have a SENSATION?????
not the Mytouch 4G??
btw, yes you do have the Engineering bootloader, as it says "eng"
saranhai said:
...wait you have a SENSATION?????
not the Mytouch 4G??
btw, yes you do have the Engineering bootloader, as it says "eng"
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nah i dont have the sensation, i just googled bootloaders to find a bootloader that was similar to mine. does having an engineering bootloader make a difference?
fragmentttt said:
nah i dont have the sensation, i just googled bootloaders to find a bootloader that was similar to mine. does having an engineering bootloader make a difference?
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...lol ok...
the Engineering bootloader, on the MT4G i think is 0.85.2007.
the Engineering bootloader gives you flashing rights, i.e changing the splash screen, radio, recovery image using adb... etc. i'd highly recommend it.
still no luck. are there any roms out there that I can flash that end up changing my radio in the process?
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still no luck. are there any roms out there that I can flash that end up changing my radio in the process?
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Nope, but learning how to use adb really isn't hard. I'd suggest reading trublue_drew's thread in the dev section called adb for dummies.
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I would follow this tutorial if you're still unsure about flashing radios. It's a really simple and easy process, but you have to follow directions TO THE LETTER. Otherwise, you might end up with a fancy, expensive paperweight.

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