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Scared to root

Can anyone give me a FOOL proof way to root my phone, without bricking it, thank you
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Superoneclick root. Google it
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gotgohan said:
Can anyone give me a FOOL proof way to root my phone, without bricking it, thank you
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Don't root...
Edit: I'm not trying to be a smart ass... just mine sincere advice!

mumilover said:
Don't root...
Edit: I'm not trying to be a smart ass... just mine sincere advice!
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Agreed. Things are far more complex than they were in the early days. It would be a long road. Rooting is the easy part
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johnson8cyl said:
Agreed. Things are far more complex than they were in the early days. It would be a long road. Rooting is the easy part
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I disagree. It took an act of Congress to get root and install a new ROM just 8 months ago. ****'s cake now.

Well I went through a little time being nervous too but I read and read and just did it. Never asked 1 question. Still rarely do. I'm just saying if this is how the journey is starting it's gonna be long.
What phone do u have?
Hboot info?
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What kind of phone u got
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I used to be afraid too, now, can't live without it.
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popasmurfn23 said:
What kind of phone u got
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Since the post is in the myTouch/Magic section, I think that would be the key. Just saying

So there aren't 2 different boards for these phones? 32a-32b?
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johnson8cyl said:
So there aren't 2 different boards for these phones? 32a-32b?
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Doesn't matter for achieving root. That doesn't come into play until your flashing recovery/ROM/kernel.

DonJuan692006 said:
Doesn't matter for achieving root. That doesn't come into play until your flashing recovery/ROM/kernel.
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Ah I see. U think I would know that. Learn something new every day. I figured there would be different root procedures. Thanks for the info
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johnson8cyl said:
Ah I see. U think I would know that. Learn something new every day. I figured there would be different root procedures. Thanks for the info
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Well it's mainly because most of the root procedures include flashing a new recovery/ROM. The idea of rooting in itself isn't device specific. It's simply adding the su binaries to the ROM.

I don't know what Hboot is and i don't know if i have 32a or 32b. I have like 250 mb of memory I think, I read somewhere that 32b has 192? I dunno.
My baseband is 62.50SJ.20.17u_2.22.28.25
Kernel 2.6.32.9-g93b855e
build number 3.56.531.1.cl300801 release keys
How do I know if i have the correct USB drivers installed?:
You NEED to put your phone on USB Debugging mode
You NEED to install make sure the Android drivers for your phone are installed
Make sure you DO NOT mount your SD card.
If you still can't get something to run, try doing it in recovery mode.
I know I can mount my sd card when I use usb, but does that mean the usb drivers are installed?

Do u have sdk installed on your PC?
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I have SDK installed on my pc, but I don't know how to use it.

Well I used that oneclick root and it worked. niiice, although when I go to emulator and type SU nothing happens, but when the program did the root test, it said it was rooted. so I don'tk now

I am not sure on even how to get into any mode after phone is shut off. I want to try installing some roms, but obviously I need radio and spl to install. I don't know how to do that with the MT3G

When u open terminal u get
$
When u type su u should get a new line with
#
Does this happen?
Read the stickies at the top of this general section. U will find all the info u can handle on fastboot,adb,sdk and so on
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Yes i got SU I had to restart the phone to get it to engage.

Unrooting from.....

I just traded some one an HD7 for this MyTouch 4G.... Yayyy, back to Android ! Well, they already have it rooted and everything, but I like to start from scratch when I am modding my phones. I am coming from a Cliq so I'm not familiar with HTC. How should I go about unrooting the phone? And where should I start in the forum while trying to get familiar with modding this phone?

If it's already rooted, why unroot it? I would just make sure the latest recovery is installed, wipe it, and flash whatever ROM you want.

I'd you are looking to mod it... then you want to keep it rooted.
Its a good thing. You can even run the stock rom and make backups of all your apps and settings.
Root is good!
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I think he just wants to unroot it to gain the experience on this platform...
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Nicgraner said:
I think he just wants to unroot it to gain the experience on this platform...
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Correct. I would like to start from root and unroot it and know what the whole entire process is for this phone.

Any help out there? =P

xxbbyxxgirlxx said:
Any help out there? =P
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Look in the development section... there are many threads with step by step instructions. Search is your friend.
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search PD15IMG. Sets you back to stock and unroot.
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rockstarar said:
search PD15IMG. Sets you back to stock and unroot.
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+1....As Rockstarar said, the pd15img makes you go back to being unrooted. The pd15img is the stock OS image and the thread will on that will explain how to flash it.
After that I'd say check out the "Guide to permaroot" thread, that will explain the process in getting rooted permanently. Next you should check out the thread for clockworkmod Recovery 3.0.0.6, thats a version that enables us to flash both 2.2 and 2.3 base roms. Alot of ppl miss that thread and end up using the wrong recovery to flash roms and as a result they get boot loops.
After that you're good to go! Got alot of options in the development section to choose from, so pick ur poison
I remember when I jus started this thing I had no clue where to start so that should give you a nice guideline on how to get going

Thanks!! I can't wait to get started =P.

Good luck!

Emmc chip

Is it possible to determine the type without rooting?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14767024&postcount=272

It says sem04g is that good or bad
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You have the good one then, you should have no trouble rooting the phone. Now if once rooted you ever want to go back to stock with S=ON you'll need to be very very careful that you dont try to go back to original firmware before reinstalling the original radio. You'll end up with something that cant be changed then.

Sorry fir the noob question but what is s on and s off
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Concorde380 said:
Sorry fir the noob question but what is s on and s off
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If you see S-ON in your bootloader that means radio security is on. S-OFF, which you would see after you have rooted the phone, means radio security is turned off and bootloader is unlocked.
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I suggest taking your time and reading stickies in development forum, to familiarize yourself with the terms frequently used and to understand what is being talked about. It might be a much better way to learn that what you're doing.

Jack_R1 said:
I suggest taking your time and reading stickies in development forum, to familiarize yourself with the terms frequently used and to understand what is being talked about. It might be a much better way to learn that what you're doing.
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There should be a sticky at the top of each sub-forum saying just that.

srivers33 said:
You have the good one then, you should have no trouble rooting the phone. Now if once rooted you ever want to go back to stock with S=ON you'll need to be very very careful that you dont try to go back to original firmware before reinstalling the original radio. You'll end up with something that cant be changed then.
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I did not know this. Thank you much!

Rooting.

Thinking of unrooting my phone and rerooting it. Witch way should I do tjis with, gfree or the vishonary and terminal way?
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That depends, if i was you i would check to see which emmc chip you have as there is two of them and search which one is the good one,and if you have the good one go gfree if you need the sim unlock if not stick to the visonary. Just my two pennies. I rooted with gfree and havent had any problem..

Well im thinking of doing this because when I did it the first time I used vishonary and it screwed my phone up and got stuck on mytouch screen (aka bootloop). I used theunlckr.com vishonary way with my g2 didnt work so I looked through the comments and found an xda thread and did it that way. Did the same on mytouch and screwes it up. Had to pay 50 bucks to fix it
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gfree is VERY simple and has not been linked to the dying eMMC chip issues. That has been shown to be a hardware issue. i have the "bad" chip and have used gfree 3 times and my phone is still fine.

JDV28 said:
gfree is VERY simple and has not been linked to the dying eMMC chip issues. That has been shown to be a hardware issue. i have the "bad" chip and have used gfree 3 times and my phone is still fine.
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Well, actually gfree is linked to bad eMMCs, but it is not the cause. It seems that a phone with the bad eMMC can only be rooted with gfree (not the Visionary/root.sh method).

TeeJay3800 said:
Well, actually gfree is linked to bad eMMCs, but it is not the cause. It seems that a phone with the bad eMMC can only be rooted with gfree (not the Visionary/root.sh method).
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What i meant is that its not the cause of them dying.

Im confused should I do the gfree method or vishonary?
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Im sorry if this has been posted before too. I looked but I couldnt find anything.
And still noone has answered my other question
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Whichever works for you.
If you're already rooted - no reason to unroot, unless your phone stopped functioning.

NicksDevouredByTheSkyline said:
Im confused should I do the gfree method or vishonary?
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gfree. its the do-all
fast.simple.reliable.

Jack_R1 said:
Whichever works for you.
If you're already rooted - no reason to unroot, unless your phone stopped functioning.
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Im rooted and all but I have a feeling its wrong. Cuz I messed up my phone and than got it fix and it still said s-off after I flashed the PD15IMG.zip file.
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JDV28 said:
gfree. its the do-all
fast.simple.reliable.
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gfree works great, but the advantage to the Visionary method is you automatically end up with the engineering bootloader. The gfree method requires an extra series of steps to do that.

JDV28 said:
gfree. its the do-all
fast.simple.reliable.
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Should I use the unlockr.com to unroot it?
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NicksDevouredByTheSkyline said:
Should I use the unlockr.com to unroot it?
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noooooo!
to flash the engineering bootloader, it takes an extra 2 minutes. literally. and it isn't needed, but its recommended i guess

JDV28 said:
noooooo!
to flash the engineering bootloader, it takes an extra 2 minutes. literally. and it isn't needed, but its recommended i guess
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Okay
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NicksDevouredByTheSkyline said:
Im rooted and all but I have a feeling its wrong. Cuz I messed up my phone and than got it fix and it still said s-off after I flashed the PD15IMG.zip file.
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It will still say S-OFF, if rooted with gfree, whatever you do - because it turns off the security flag for real. Your feelings don't have anything to do with the fact that your phone is S-OFF now, and by unrooting it you won't accomplish anything - but judging by the amount of threads you've opened by now, it'll cost XDA a lot of server space .

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It will still say S-OFF, if rooted with gfree, whatever you do - because it turns off the security flag for real. Your feelings don't have anything to do with the fact that your phone is S-OFF now, and by unrooting it you won't accomplish anything - but judging by the amount of threads you've opened by now, it'll cost XDA a lot of server space .
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Ya. I really didnt mean to post that one rom thread 3 times. I reported them so they would be deleted. Im sorry
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don't be sorry dude, post as many threads as you need to help you learn, but just try not to got the forums. As long as each thread has a certain purpose, you are fine.

JDV28 said:
don't be sorry dude, post as many threads as you need to help you learn, but just try not to got the forums. As long as each thread has a certain purpose, you are fine.
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Yah thanm you
MyTouch4GCameAsRomans!

NicksDevouredByTheSkyline said:
Yah thanm you
MyTouch4GCameAsRomans!
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np, always trying to help

Flash a new radio on a unrooted phone.

Is it possible.
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I'm pretty sure it is but personally I wouldn't try it.
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If I remember correctly you can't. You need to be fully rooted meaning s-off. Basically s-off means radio sercurity off,among other things turned off. If you try to flash anything through clocklworkmod recovery without s-off,either nothing will happen or your phone will be bricked an you will have to buy a complete new phone. Best thing to do is fully root(s-off). If you need help rooting your phone,send me a pm,an ill help you out.
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Mr.Highway said:
If I remember correctly you can't. You need to be fully rooted meaning s-off. Basically s-off means radio sercurity off,among other things turned off. If you try to flash anything through clocklworkmod recovery without s-off,either nothing will happen or your phone will be bricked an you will have to buy a complete new phone. Best thing to do is fully root(s-off). If you need help rooting your phone,send me a pm,an ill help you out.
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You're right that you must be rooted to flash in recovery, but you do not flash radios in recovery. They are flashed in the bootloader, and I'm not sure root access is required to flash a PD15IMG.zip file in the bootloader. I'm leaning towards root not being required, but I don't know for sure. Might as well go ahead and try it. The worst that could happen is you get the "access denied" message and the installation aborts.

I was thinking that about the radio, I just flashed my first one. After having my phone rooted for 6months. Only reason why I said root the phone. Is to make sure he has full control over the phone. An it takes some risks out,some but not all.
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Yea, I was about to say you don't use cwm to flash a new radio but you got it. : P lol
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Its my girls phone, she wanted the latest but won't let me root it. (Personally I have no idea why) girls I tell ya. Haha. Thanks again everyone.
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Radios can be flashed in bootloader - otherwise stock firmware updates wouldn't be able to upgrade radios - but they most probably need to be signed to be flashed by S-ON bootloader. In that case, the answer to the OP would be "no".