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What do you think of the Motorola Triumph?

Virgin has full coverage here in NYC. I don't talk a lot. I use a lot of text/gtalk. They have 25$ plans. The processor/gpu is the same as the thunderbolt. I was going to wait on the nexus 3 but if the Triumph comes out and someone can get CM on it somehow- I might pick it up.
I know the Triumph (Thunderbolt specs) and the Nexus 3 (supposed quad core) are totally different but for 25 a month- that's very attractive.
I know this place will be pro-Vibrant and most likely pro nexus since its a dev device but if the Triumph can get a 2nd init install of Cm or MIUI- why not?
Thoughts?
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I am really tempted to pay my etf and make the switch to VM because the service (virgin mobile which uses Sprint's network) is a lot better then T-mobile's in my area. I've heard the Triumph also is running stock android, so thats a plus. I say go for it, $25 a month is a very good deal and VM has a 30 day returm period, so if you don't like it you can return your phone.

How much does that phone go for?
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Not out yet, Dan. Speculation of anywhere between 150-250.
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richiehd said:
Not out yet, Dan. Speculation of anywhere between 150-250.
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i think more than 200 since it even has a 4.1 screen and good processor and all that, also ive heard virgin wont let people root, they went extreme, more than any other carrier

richiehd said:
Not out yet, Dan. Speculation of anywhere between 150-250.
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That's not too bad. Looks like a nice device.

Dan_Brutal said:
That's not too bad. Looks like a nice device.
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got some good specs but i dont know, would u jump to it dan ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Triumph

bosina said:
got some good specs but i dont know, would u jump to it dan ?
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I would get it just to have it and play with it.

I think Virgin has a 30 day period to return the phone if you don't like it. It would be nice to try it. Worse comes to worse and you don't like it, return it and you're only losing the 25$ for that month.
Vanilla android, yumm.
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richiehd said:
I think Virgin has a 30 day period to return the phone if you don't like it. It would be nice to try it. Worse comes to worse and you don't like it, return it and you're only losing the 25$ for that month.
Vanilla android, yumm.
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Yeah sounds good, but i also like quality and stuff thats why i spend mad money on phones, tmos network is the fastest ive test, sprint 4g is slower then my old vibrant 3.5 g lols
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I doubt you could get CM7 on that thing since Virgin really took a stand against root and custom roms. Of course, if they do decide to unlock the bootloader, like Kevin Garnett, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
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Meh, i would wait for the Nexus 3, or get the Samsung Hercules, but thats phonewise, on the coverage side, idk since i don't live in the US

vinnydakid said:
I doubt you could get CM7 on that thing since Virgin really took a stand against root and custom roms. Of course, if they do decide to unlock the bootloader, like Kevin Garnett, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
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Haha that made me chuckle
Also, Motorola said that they will start releasing phones with unlocked bootloaders later this summer. Whether that applies to this phone is yet to be told... I hope it come with an unlocked bootloader.
Source: http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=15331

bosina said:
Yeah sounds good, but i also like quality and stuff thats why i spend mad money on phones, tmos network is the fastest ive test, sprint 4g is slower then my old vibrant 3.5 g lols
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As much as I don't like verizon's phones. They have the fastest mobile network in the US hands down (LTE and not CDMA). Their devices average 12Mbs, and can hit up to 21Mbs. There's really no contest there. T-mo and the others can't do that today.

First, this is my first post in this sub-forum, as I have a fascinate, but I just wanted to point out 2 things about this phone and Virgin Mobile in general:
1. Sprint has wonderful service in my area, better than AT&T and T-Mobile, but not as good as Verizon. I DO know that I am willing to have one less bar and slower data to save $60 a month. Also, I don't travel where Sprint doesn't have service, so roaming is a non-factor to me, although to some people that should be a pretty big point, as VM doesn't roam out of sprint's network (trade offs... pfft)
2.Virgin Mobile's android phones follow a trend, sell the phone for ~ 50% of retail. I'll prove it:
Optimus S $299 | Optimus V $149 and Samsung Transform (Sprint no longer offers the Intercept) $350 | Samsung Intecept $199 (I see it all the time on sale at BB for $175)
What this leads me to believe is you simply need to find the equivalent phone and simply slash it's price in half, +/- $50. I believe the EVO is the closest match, so take half of that price and you get roughly $225, according to Sprint. Therefore, I believe the triumph will be $250.
What do you all think?

the phone will be sold for $299.99
you can pre-order it now on bestbuy's website.
just go there and search for "motorola triumph"
I'm kinda pissed that the price is so high, but unlimited data, text, and web for 25 a month... will make up the difference in a few months on the money you save from paying your normal phone bill.

If it can't be rootrom'd then im gonna wait for the nexus 3.
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I wouldn't, what most people don't know is how these carriers are able to sell the phones for so little money. For example, the rumor touch is 100 bucks for virgin mobile while the off-contract price for the rumor touch on sprint is 250 in most stores, how are they able to do that? the answer is different parts, not just different brands, also lower quality, which is why most people who have a prepaid phone have the most phone problems, there's not a single prepaid phone in the last 3 years that I've seen with no serious problems. While the same can be said for post paid versions in this case it is much worse on prepaid smartphones.
Ask anyone who repairs/mods cellphones, most of the time they won't mess with prepaids :/

The reason those companies sell it higher at full price is to try to get you into their contract.I have never had a problem with a prepaid phone.I personally don't mind getting it cheaper without the contract.I also will dev or work on any phone prepaid or not.I am looking forward to the Triumph, finally there will be a nice spec'd phone on prepaid.While I am happy with th Optimus V I was already looking to use it as a donor for another phone.But with this coming out, I'll just sell my V and get it.Though I'm sure it will have a locked bootloader as long as it can be temp rooted to remove bloatware I'll be very happy.
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Nexus S 4G free till 12/20

At Sprint website.....trying to take some GN thunder lol????

Yup people don't know the difference
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If there was ever a LTE version for att of the NS, I could honestly say it would be the last phone I would ever need.

I would be happy with a HSPA+ for TMO or ATT
Hell I am hoping the LTE version will launch for Sprint too
If the GN comes I see it being the LTE flavor. Or maybe dual WIMAX and LTE?
I was thinking of the Epic Touch but seeing ICS on INT GS2 left a horrible taste in my mouth . Hopefully they will leave the stock launcher like they did for GB?

donsh00tmesanta said:
I would be happy with a HSPA+ for TMO or ATT
Hell I am hoping the LTE version will launch for Sprint too
If the GN comes I see it being the LTE flavor. Or maybe dual WIMAX and LTE?
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it would have to be, I just cant get over the size or else I would switch carriers for it but it's too big for me

bdpyo said:
it would have to be, I just cant get over the size or else I would switch carriers for it but it's too big for me
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I've reached the conclusion that buying expressive electronics when they first come out is simply a bad consumer choice. How often do new electronics (especially phones) ship with some kind of defect? It takes at least a few months for all the bad batches to reach the suckers and the bug-free versions to hit shelves.
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Bruce lee roy said:
I've reached the conclusion that buying expressive electronics when they first come out is simply a bad consumer choice. How often do new electronics (especially phones) ship with some kind of defect? It takes at least a few months for all the bad batches to reach the suckers and the bug-free versions to hit shelves.
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Eh, I dont know. My Launch day Nexus One is still alive and working very well. My Launch day Nexus S 4G is stable up to 2Ghz (if it doesn't get too hot anyway), and has no major issues. Hell I even get better signal on my NS4G than ANY other phone I've ever had.

Think about it...
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Eh, I dont know. My Launch day Nexus One is still alive and working very well. My Launch day Nexus S 4G is stable up to 2Ghz (if it doesn't get too hot anyway), and has no major issues. Hell I even get better signal on my NS4G than ANY other phone I've ever had.
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Nexus S is somewhat of a special case; most if, if not all, the bugs were worked out the year prior with the galaxy s line. And if you paid attention, which i did, the gs had plenty of problems til they released the the updated versions without bugs (gs4g and ns). On top of that, the ns4g had the ns out before it--> that's about 3 generations of product field testing. You should really thank gs, ns, and gs4g for making your ns4g what it is today

Current evo4g owner eligible for an upgrade. Was on the sprint website trying to decide between this ns4g ($0.00) and the epic touch4g ($199.99). Love the gs2's hardware, but I agree with don'tshootmesanta's distaste for TouchWiz smothering the ICS goodness underneath. Love the nexus s 4g, but it is getting a little long in the tooth. Would it be wise to get the nexus now?
As a premiere customer I believe my annual upgrade will disappear in two weeks as the program comes to an end, and the opportunity to (finally) own a nexus device, for free, seems foolish to pass up.

The foolish thing would be not to get the iPhone 4s and flip it. Nexus S 4G are too cheap to use an upgrade on it.

rquinn19 said:
The foolish thing would be not to get the iPhone 4s and flip it. Nexus S 4G are too cheap to use an upgrade on it.
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^^^^^^^ This !!!!!
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rquinn19 said:
The foolish thing would be not to get the iPhone 4s and flip it. Nexus S 4G are too cheap to use an upgrade on it.
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Yerp. Lnib I've seen them hovering around 100 bones.
Follow the leader @corythug

So you're saying I ought to:
1. Use my upgrade to buy the iPhone 4S for $199.99
2. Sell iPhone on craigslist/ebay for ~ $600
3. Keep using the evo or use the $400 profit to buy new phone off contract?

I jumped on this today for my other line...anyone recomend any good roms...or is stock rooted good enough....I would like to overclock a little too...any recommendations would be helpful cause this won't be my phone so i won't be able to tinker with it...thanks
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OmahaPaul402 said:
Current evo4g owner eligible for an upgrade. Was on the sprint website trying to decide between this ns4g ($0.00) and the epic touch4g ($199.99). Love the gs2's hardware, but I agree with don'tshootmesanta's distaste for TouchWiz smothering the ICS goodness underneath. Love the nexus s 4g, but it is getting a little long in the tooth. Would it be wise to get the nexus now?
As a premiere customer I believe my annual upgrade will disappear in two weeks as the program comes to an end, and the opportunity to (finally) own a nexus device, for free, seems foolish to pass up.
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For me it's either Nexus or no Android phone but I'd get the Epic Touch 4G. You could easily sell it, buy a Nexus S 4G and have some cash to spare. You could even wait and see if the Galaxy Nexus hits Sprint and sell the Epic Touch 4G then.
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So you're saying I ought to:
1. Use my upgrade to buy the iPhone 4S for $199.99
2. Sell iPhone on craigslist/ebay for ~ $600
3. Keep using the evo or use the $400 profit to buy new phone off contract?
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Just saw this and this makes even more sense than my suggestion. You could get a NS4G on ebay and still have money for another phone.

ickwonder said:
I jumped on this today for my other line...anyone recomend any good roms...or is stock rooted good enough....I would like to overclock a little too...any recommendations would be helpful cause this won't be my phone so i won't be able to tinker with it...thanks
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Yea Peter Alfonso's Bugless Beast GPA 19, very much stock but better. You can just d/l and install it through Rom Manager although it's probably still on these forums some where, just to much other ICS stuff to wade through and find it. I've tried them all and his is by far the smoothest bug free one I've came across, great battery life as well. I'll stick with it until he gets a ICS version up and running.

Early upgrade for high value customers...

Fyi, till December 31, in corporate retail stores sprint has a targeted offer to allow upgrades many months in advance for "high value" customers. Basically I've seen customers with bills averaging over 130 getting upgrades available as early as 9 months before true eligibility. Only way to check is to actually go in to a corporate retail store and have them look at your account. Under offers for your line it will say early hup. Manager has to override price but you could hit the upgrade lottery
This will NOT be reflected online, on the phone, or through any other method than physically setting foot in the retail store. Just FYI. Good luck.
Please don't repost this, it's only for my epic brethren.
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THX 4 that info

Is there even anything worth upgrading to yet?
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algorhythm said:
Is there even anything worth upgrading to yet?
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When I was looking a couple nights ago at phones I decided that waiting awhile was the best option for me. :-(

D-Buckner said:
When I was looking a couple nights ago at phones I decided that waiting awhile was the best option for me. :-(
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Yeah I feel the same way.. sure, I can roll the dice and see if I can drop 200$ on an early upgrade E4GT, but it's not THAT much better to burn my upgrade so early.

I got my daughter the epic touch; it is pretty nice. ROMs are still maturing though.
How spoiled are we when custom rom selection effects phone selection

my wife is due for an upgrade in june, but they told her about this in store a few daysw ago. same rep almost sold her an "iphone4g" for 99 bucks saying it was on sale.
im glad i changed the pin number a few weeks ago, or i wouldve had to have stabbed someone.

austin420 said:
my wife is due for an upgrade in june, but they told her about this in store a few daysw ago. same rep almost sold her an "iphone4g" for 99 bucks saying it was on sale.
im glad i changed the pin number a few weeks ago, or i wouldve had to have stabbed someone.
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I'm hoping the sprnt rep lol...
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I'm hoping the sprnt rep lol...
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Yes, lol. The rep, for hustling my wife.
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I just found out about this and walked out with a new Epic touch for the wife and I.
I called sprint to see if I could get around the $36 activation fee. What we ended up doing was the allowed me to buy out my term for $45 each then he credited me $100 on my account and waived the activation fees!
Sweet!
So I went to post it here and found this thread!

No upgrade for me until a decent LTE phone arrives.

That's my plan too. I'm still enjoying my epic, and I don't see any need to upgrade before then

Is there a way to find out if one of those stores are near me?

Yeah, as much as I like new toys to play with (root, rom etc.) there's nothing available that would even tempt me out of my $200.. now if Sprint gets the Galaxy Nexus in the next couple days.. that might be a different story (my buddy keeps sending me pics and updates about which roms he's flashed etc.. he just got the damn nexus today.. lol)

Our account is just over $130/mo with taxes and such... 2x (SeroP + 4G + $8 TEP). Anyways, my wife has been complaining so much about her Evo, and won't let me root/rom it that I want to get her an iPhone just to shut her up...

I managed to pick up an epic touch for cheap without using my upgrade, but I have to say I would hold onto my upgrade if I didn't have other options. Phones in 2012 will be quad core, amoled hd, and lte. But if you are desperate, it is another option for you.
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This could make my daughter very happy.
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No upgrade for me until a decent LTE phone arrives.
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I am happy I didn't jump on the upgrades a few months ago when I could. Now my upgrade comes in July right when the new LTE phones come out. So everything works out if you let it
Thanks OP for the info though.

Yup this is no bull. All of my lines are eligible.

shane6374 said:
This could make my daughter very happy.
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got mine the epic touch; she had the htc shift. she is all now.
haven't rooted it yet, letting the roms mature a bit before putting anything on it.
it is very nice, the sgs3 though is looking like a sweet phone, i'm waiting to see what all unfolds next year.

Upgrading and New Phone One Stop Shop and discussion

Thought I would make a one stop shop thread for upcoming sprint phones and existing recent ones that people may want to upgrade to.
Galaxy note 2 on sprint
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1872352
New Leak (ZTE Flash):
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/07/28/...ing-at-sprint-in-october-with-4g-lte-support/
LG Cayenne
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/07/23/sprint-bound-lg-cayenne-leaked-again-with-updated-specs/
LG Eclipse
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/14/lg-eclipse-sprint-att-halloween/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/18/leaked-lg-ls970-removable-battery-nfc/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/11/lg-ls970-superphone/
Photon Q
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-PHOTON-Q_id7253
Galaxy SIII
http://www.phonedog.com/products/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-16gb-white/
Evo LTE
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3742
Galaxy Nexus
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-Nexus-Sprint_id7035

xboxfanj said:
What phone are you upgrading to?
Personally, unless the Galaxy S III is amazing, I will probably go with the Evo LTE. My upgrade is in Jan 13, so there may be cooler phones between now and then, but so far, I am leaning towards Evo LTE unless the nexus 4 is on sprint by then or the galaxy s iii is considerably better.
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Another keyboard phone.
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I'm still holding out for the galaxy note. If the note doesn't come to sprint, I'll get the S3.

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I'm still holding out for the galaxy note. If the note doesn't come to sprint, I'll get the S3.
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I went into a Sprint Repair center a couple days ago to see if I was up for an upgrade. They said the Galaxy Note was coming to Sprint.
I'm not due for an upgrade till September. I want to see what's out then...but am thinking Galaxy Note.
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Lol another future phone thread =].
Gnex... been sitting on my upgrade... so that's what I want .
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Lol another future phone thread =].
Gnex... been sitting on my upgrade... so that's what I want .
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I know there's a couple threads where people have talked about it, but none that I saw had this as the sole purpose.

a nexus note would be amazing. but just wishful thinking. if no word on a note by june i will probably go with gs3

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Another keyboard phone.
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This^^^^^^^^
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Galaxy S3!! Rumor has it, Samsung is planning a iphone4s like release, where it will be available global at one time! So sprint should be getting it, at the same time as everyone else!
And GS3 WILL be amazing!

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This + LTE. I'm willing to wait a while. Nothing I want to do right now the Epic can't handle. My complaints are all network related.

Is anyone else thinking about the evo lte?
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I will probably jump to the AT&T note rather than waiting for sprint note. Part of it is that I want to be able to grab a pre-paid SIM when going to europe, which the Sprint version won't be able to do unless Sprint does something drastic. Part of it is that my company has a contract with AT&T for a 20% discount on plans, etc.

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I will probably jump to the AT&T note rather than waiting for sprint note. Part of it is that I want to be able to grab a pre-paid SIM when going to europe, which the Sprint version won't be able to do unless Sprint does something drastic. Part of it is that my company has a contract with AT&T for a 20% discount on plans, etc.
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I'm in the exact same boat, the only thing that drew me to sprint is the unlimited data, however now that I work 50+ hours a week I think 2 gigs might be fine for me. (I normally burn through 8 lol)
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I'm not sure.
I won't be on Sprint when my contract is up. They are ripping me the **** off.
So it depends on whether I go T-Mobile or Verizon.

I just got my Galaxy Nexus today! It's so beautiful and it couldn't have come at a better time since my Epic jumped (not literally) off my stove to the saltillo tile floor. I had just ordered this phone a couple hours before "The incident". I'm sure going to miss this community.
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I think I'm getting ready to jump ship permanently from Sprint. I haven't had many problems with them, but their network is very inconsistent. I have unlimited data on AT&T and ordered the GSM Galaxy Nexus from the Play Store today for $399. That's hard to beat in my opinion. I might keep Sprint to see what happens with LTE, but only time will tell.

There's no sense for me to even consider which phone I'll upgrade to until I know when the LTE network is coming to my city. I'll also be evaluating how my performance on the network improves (if it all) due to Network Vision. If I didn't have such an unbelievable deal with Sprint I might have moved on long ago, but I hate the pay-through-the-nose, limited data plans on the other carriers.
An ideal scenario would be that in the fall, with LTE on here, and my contract up for renewal, the Sprint version of the GSIII comes out like the Epic, as the clear spec leader with all the trimmings including physical keyboard and a totally solid build quality. And no plan rate increases.

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Now that I fixed my epic the evo lte is my upgrade plan also unless something with a keyboard comes around before I plan to upgrade
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Hands down, a Note - there is no comparison of that device to any other. I've always appreciated convergence of technologies, and there is no better example today than a Note.
Sprint offers a lot which other carriers don't, but after a while you certainly miss what you really want, and that is a solid network, which Sprint isn't. The day the Note arrives on Verizon (hopefully as a world phone), I'm grabbing it regardless of the number of months left on my contract with Sprint.
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i like the new evo but no sd card suxs. and gs3 is blow the evo out of the water. time with tell.

Swapping a note 1, for 2, in the uk

The only reason to do this is keeping up with the smiths. EE have stated their 4g network will be round 10-15mb/s. The same as I get now on 3.
The world is full of people getting phones and 2 months in they feel they are missing out, due to blogs & engadget,etc who are paid to make you feel this.
You only really need to update every other model.
Start thinking rationally on this,NOT how those who are paid to make you feel.
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Totally agree.
I went from galaxy s 1 to galaxy s3, galaxy s2 just wasn't worthy at the time. Nor is the note 2 ill be hanging out for the note 3.
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howard bamber said:
The only reason to do this is keeping up with the smiths. EE have stated their 4g network will be round 10-15mb/s. The same as I get now on 3.
The world is full of people getting phones and 2 months in they feel they are missing out, due to blogs & engadget,etc who are paid to make you feel this.
You only really need to update every other model.
Start thinking rationally on this,NOT how those who are paid to make you feel.
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Im on 3. You get 10 to 15mbps? Never heard of their network giving those speeds! You must be on top of a mast! Best i have ever gotten is 9mbps.
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Stateside here, phones are subsidized by the carriers which means the monthly bill is higher. When i was with sprint ild get a new phone every year amd could sell my "old" phone, the one year old one for more than the $200usd sprint was asking. I think this really what drives the phone markets.
Lucky for me i got off the phone treadmill, sold my S2 and bought a note for only about $150 difference. No more $90 monthly bills. I spend about $10 on prepaid a month and use voip for most of my talking.
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PJ147 said:
Im on 3. You get 10 to 15mbps? Never heard of their network giving those speeds! You must be on top of a mast! Best i have ever gotten is 9mbps.
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From box 13......

LxMxFxD said:
Stateside here, phones are subsidized by the carriers which means the monthly bill is higher. When i was with sprint ild get a new phone every year amd could sell my "old" phone, the one year old one for more than the $200usd sprint was asking. I think this really what drives the phone markets.
Lucky for me i got off the phone treadmill, sold my S2 and bought a note for only about $150 difference. No more $90 monthly bills. I spend about $10 on prepaid a month and use voip for most of my talking.
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Snap. I get 500min. 5000 txt ,unlimited data for $21- pre pay. As gf is in USA use voip.
Id never buy a contract phone. I wait 6months then trawl amazon....
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Its a conspiracy. The phone manufacturers only release a new phone to make us buy it. Someone call the press how could they not have noticed!
Sarcasm aside what really is the point your getting at? Do you actually want to start a movement of people no buying new phones every year? What's wrong with wanting the newest handset every year? If you can afford it then why not. Or is your point that you feel the media is playing you and manipulating you into wanting a new phone and you feel this is somehow unjust?
I was going to edit this and delete most of it but decided to leave it and just say after reading your post a few more times and reading my own I think mine sounds like I am being a real ass to you. Didn't mean it to be. Was meant to sound more playful than it does. Sorry if its not.
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howard bamber said:
The only reason to do this is keeping up with the smiths. EE have stated their 4g network will be round 10-15mb/s. The same as I get now on 3.
The world is full of people getting phones and 2 months in they feel they are missing out, due to blogs & engadget,etc who are paid to make you feel this.
You only really need to update every other model.
Start thinking rationally on this,NOT how those who are paid to make you feel.
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I'm guessing its actually yourself your aiming that at.