flash kernal first or rom - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

im currently using defy red lens with cm7.....now i want to upgrde it to ICS or JB...so
1. which kernal should i use...
2. flash kernal first or rom
3. which more stable till date ICS or JB..

I'm in the same situation (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878460). I'm planning on trying JB today based on these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30116613&postcount=5020
Looks like Kernel before ROM.

Flash kernel before Rom because the rom may have updates towards the kernel

ishansharma21 said:
im currently using defy red lens with cm7.....now i want to upgrde it to ICS or JB...so
1. which kernal should i use...
2. flash kernal first or rom
3. which more stable till date ICS or JB..
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[Q] [q] cm9/ics/gapps - defy+ 2.3.6 kernal

[Q] hello sir,
Do own Defy+2.3.6 (ryt now using MS2Ginger 3 by walter79 ), want to use CM9/ICS, downloaded zip CM9-NIGHTLY-120112-Defy+.zip & CM9 kernel. kindly suggest proper installation procedure and info abt the ics gapps versions which one to use. i dont want to use other kernal rather than 2.3.6 can i flash CM9 on stock rom
waiting for ur humble replies ☻thanks in advance☻
God bless you All.
Why don't you want to use the Froyo kernel? I wouldn't use this nightly. You can't even phone with it! If you have BL6, flash the BL6-SBF with Froyo-kernel.
Don't use the flashlight until you flashed the CM7-kernel, you could burn it with the Chinese kernel of this SBF.
Then root the phone with the latest SuperOneClick and (after backup) follow my instructions here. Use the latest CM9-zip, ICS-Google-apps and the CM7-kernel(NOT the CM9-kernel) instead of the zips in that post. If you want to have the Motorola-Bootlogo back, also flash the attached Red_M_Logo.zip, or use my CM9-Bootlogo.zip. Flash the CM9-Music.zip if you want to use the new CM9 music app (it's very good, i can recommend it).
If you have BL7, i would wait until eppy makes a build for the Defy+ kernel.
thanks for your replies,
please let me know checking battery version ( bl5,bl6,bl7 ),my defy mfg. date is dec 2011 , details on battery HF5X, b052r984-1001, model L-L-L- DC111109.
and CM9 GB kernel is available so why not to use it, hope u clear my mind.
veeranna said:
[Q] hello sir,
Do own Defy+2.3.6 (ryt now using MS2Ginger 3 by walter79 ), want to use CM9/ICS, downloaded zip CM9-NIGHTLY-120112-Defy+.zip & CM9 kernel. kindly suggest proper installation procedure and info abt the ics gapps versions which one to use. i dont want to use other kernal rather than 2.3.6 can i flash CM9 on stock rom
waiting for ur humble replies ☻thanks in advance☻
God bless you All.
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defy + wont be able to get update of 4.0 do not even try for this
I have a Defy+ with CM9/ICS, it works!
i think i try flashing it on my stock rom... i think eppsy build for gb builds hope no downgrading is required i guess any suggestions and recommendations are welcome.
WHAT VERSION HAVE YOU FLASHED ?
I mean which build are you using with Defy+ ?
i am using stock 2.3.6 and i tried
stock/cm 7.2 nightly.
stock/ics latest builds
works well but no network on second booted rom doesnt get any network ( no EMIE )
hope some one fix this soon or some one did let me know
veeranna said:
i am using stock 2.3.6 and i tried
stock/cm 7.2 nightly.
stock/ics latest builds
works well but no network on second booted rom doesnt get any network ( no EMIE )
hope some one fix this soon or some one did let me know
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Did you try using basebandswitcher? Just to search for a frequency similar to your stock baseband? I think you did because default ms2ginger baseband definitely isn't what you seem to be running on stock 2.3.6...
Oh, and btdubs I think Mister Ypsilon is right about using froyo kernel builds for CM9. Your nightly doesn't seem to be too stable.
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Oh and veeranna don't forget, BL version (BL5/6/7) is not your battery version. It's the version of the bootloader, and it is very important when it comes to downgradeability.
search it up, I don't do a very good job of explaining bootloader stuff.
Its awesome but lil buggy
I did it! Installed Froyo SBF, rooted, 2nd init, then CM9 for Defy, CM7 kernel, slept at 5A.M :O and bingo there was a pretty stable ICS but without camera! After playing around with it for few hours.. Tested NFS Shift, Angry Birds and everything was smooth as butter except that there was no Camera due to which I restored it back using a full SBF flash and my Nandroid backup
Can be used if you don't need a camera..!
I have a Defy+ flashed with stock 2.3.6 SBF en.asia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20097916&postcount=3
Check this it is working fine. Tested on my moto after a full fresh Defy+ 2.3.6 SBF flash.
There are more stable roms built by quarx and epsylon3 in the defy development thread. Camera works and camcorder works for some users. These devs are geniuses.
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[Q] how to install GB kernel on froyo CM9

hello guys, thanks for all the patience with me haha, but i dont understand it anymore.. im currently running CM9 from epps on my red lens defy with froyo kernel.
Since its a little bit to buggy for me i want to change to a different CM9 but also want the GB kernel.
What to do? just download the CM9 GB build and install it just the same way as i did with CM9 froyo kernel?
I found a thread on this forum that seems really complicated and a little bit to mutch work but i want to do it the right way and not mess up my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14976942#post14976942
With the rom you should flash the attached cm9 kernel
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pjgowtham said:
With the rom you should flash the attached cm9 kernel
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so i just download GB build CM9, put the zip on my sd card, install it and then its done?
U should also download cm9 kernel.zip from the auris's thread in defy general thread, flash it also..
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yeaaay it worked, pretty awesome. also it didnt delete anything from my phone which comes in pretty handy when updating the rom. so i dont have to backup everything again. camera is working fine also!
I'm in the same situation. What I want is to install the GB kernel, and yet remain on my CM9, and still be able to flash my original stock froyo SBF if need be, and was wondering if it would just be enough to flash the GB kernel found in Epsylon3's site, and if so, which one (since there are two there)? Secondly, would that GB kernel enable all 4 CPU frequencies?
I'm still on my original stock SBF, which is JORLA_U3_3.4.2_108-2, and has CG31.smg version = 4
Third, would I be able to flash Defy+ ROMs, such as the CM10 roms developed by Quarx, which, as far as I understand, have a custom kernel, and yet still be able to flash back to my original stock froyo SBF?

[Q] ICS MIUI for Defy+ (GB Kernel)

Ok, I think the title is clear enough but, I'd like to know if there are any MIUI ROMs for the Motorola Defy Plus with a 2.3 (GB) Kernel. Thing is, I have Quarx's CM9 on Multiboot but I'd love to try ICS MIUI on it, but I understand I have to flash Froyo Kernel but don't know what would that do to my CM9 I'm so in love with.
I've searched all the threads on xda and the web but I haven't been able to find what I'm looking for.
Thanks!
Unfortunately Currently there is no miui build that works on gb kernel.
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Thanks for the reply! Is there another rom that I should try? I don't really know about another interface for 4.0 but it would surely be great if there were one.
Edit: I have another question, is there a way to install a froyo kernel on multiboot so i can keep cm9 (GB) on my default boot? I already have multiboot but I'm not sure if flashing wiui, for example, will damage the other rom.
Look at the miui ics thread by sesme
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Well as far as I know multi boot requires same kernel for the roms. I don't know if any recent development has changed it. You may check multi boot thread.
fabulosospucas said:
Thanks for the reply! Is there another rom that I should try? I don't really know about another interface for 4.0 but it would surely be great if there were one.
Edit: I have another question, is there a way to install a froyo kernel on multiboot so i can keep cm9 (GB) on my default boot? I already have multiboot but I'm not sure if flashing wiui, for example, will damage the other rom.
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[Q] Defy Jellybean CM10 Help!

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I have read the guides for moto defy mb525 U.S. tmobile and yet i don't understand a thing. I have a bionic and have rooted/flashed/sbf'd before so I have experience but not with this device. I tried understanding from the wiki and beginners guide yet it didn't help me at all. (I'm dumb)
MY Goal: Jellybean CM10 on my Defy
I am currently on froyo 2.2 and I don't understand how to get CM10
I have an original tmobile u.s. defy (Im pretty sure its green lens)
If someone can provide links I can learn:
What should I SBF to?
What should I use to root?
How do I flash cm9 kernel (I heard its the only way to get the CM10 working on a tmobile mb525)
Once I get a recovery I know how to flash and stuff I just want to be guided until I get to clockwork recovery and have the cm9 kernel flashed.
Please help, don't flame....its what makes this community great
Root it with SuperOneClick 1.9 for Defy! it should be somewhere on xda I dont know where use the search function...
Install 2nd INIT it should add cwm
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Sorry Sir but its useless to flash CM10(current version) on MB525 coz its being made for MB526(Defy+). Your efforts will be in vein. Why not go for 4.0.4 by Eppy? Latest build is stable as hell!
I read that you can flash CM10 by quark on your green lens defy but of course camera won't work
I got soft reboots. And the current version can't make calls/text.
Go for CM9 its really getting into its groove now
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NI55AN said:
I got soft reboots. And the current version can't make calls/text.
Go for CM9 its really getting into its groove now
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Since you sound new to flashing roms, you shouldn't start off with an alpha rom you have to port, instead, start with an Epsy CM9 or Maniac103 CM7 -- both are stable and a good place to start learning about rom flashing.
***Before you start flashing sbf's, you should read the sbf thread and find an sbf you like that's on the same BL version you're currently on, or if out of warranty, flash a bl6 sbf so you can switch between the GB and Froyo kernels. I'm not going to go into BL versions anymore, but that's one of the most important things you need to learn when flashing Defy roms and sbfs.***
For rooting, I use SuperOneClick 1.9.5. Then just enable non-market apps and install Defy 2nd-Init Recovery, reboot into it, select wipe data\factory reset, then flash cm7 or 9 followed by the appropriate version of gapps. Those steps will soon become second nature, to the point where you can root and flash a custom rom in your sleep.
All the tools and roms can be found by searching the forums. Good Luck and welcome to the wonderful world of custom roms.
I got jellybean working thanks yall for the help.....its the kernel parts that threw me off but i learned
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sy0120 said:
I got jellybean working thanks yall for the help.....its the kernel parts that threw me off but i learned
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Pls , how to sync google contact for Defy MB525 using Jelly Bean 4.1
Bé Yêu said:
Pls , how to sync google contact for Defy MB525 using Jelly Bean 4.1
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Flash gapps for jb and then sync.
S3nt fr0m my D3fy/w1u1 GB st4BL3
nidhish91 said:
Flash gapps for jb and then sync.
S3nt fr0m my D3fy/w1u1 GB st4BL3
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Thanks !
I installed GAP and working normal now ! Howerver , I must have install " File Manager " from Market .

[Q] Stay on Eclair or go to Froyo?

Hi! A friend left me his Defy so I could so I can put it on steroids as it's working really slow. It's still on Android 2.1 (Vodafone Spain) and never touched. I've read all the necessary stuff for beginners and understood everything (I'm not new to rooting and flashing, I've a fully hacked Desi), but I want to know a few things.
First of all, should I stay on 2.1 as base or is it better to upgrade to Froyo, in which case what is the preferred SBF?
As this is for a friend and I'm not gonna have access to his phone everyday I need a really stable rom. Are the latest CM roms stable enough?
And at last, I've read that some of this roms come with the kernel, what does that mean?
Thanks in advance for all the info.
1) You can upgrade to Froyo, or stay as it is(will not really affect performance) although people report Froyo to be a bit smoother
2)CM7 is very stable and fast( you may use maniacs or other builds)
3)I think you are referring to the 2ndboot ROMs which include a custom kernel. Though I personally use them, they may not be stable/fast enough for everyone
I would suggest trying cm7,9,10 and check how it works out for you
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thekguy said:
3)I think you are referring to the 2ndboot ROMs which include a custom kernel. Though I personally use them, they may not be stable/fast enough for everyone
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Yes, isn't that 2ndboot thing necessary to be able to boot any custom rom? So now if I would like to install a custom rom I should (update to Froyo,) root, install 2nd init and then flash the rom and recover the nandroid for that build?
_SpAiK_ said:
Yes, isn't that 2ndboot thing necessary to be able to boot any custom rom? So now if I would like to install a custom rom I should (update to Froyo,) root, install 2nd init and then flash the rom and recover the nandroid for that build?
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Yes that's right, but what nandroid do you mean? Usually you don't have to recover nandroid. For CM7,9,10 you should just flash .zip from cwm. For ms2ginger you have to follow the instructions in op (there you have to use a nand backup)
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No, there are ROMs without custom kernel as well. Cm7 and all miui builds are based on stock kernel ( all GB ROMs). JB is available in both, so is ICS, and only a couple of ROMs are nandroid backups, rest are zips. Remember to wipe data as well while flashing builds
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If Froyo is officially deployed in your area and carrier go for it
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Ok, so now I'm into work. I've already rooted and installed 2init. Nest step is to install a custom rom but I can't decide from this three: Epsylon3's CM9.1 Android 4.0.4, [email protected]'s CM10 Moto Ice Gun Edition or Quarx's CM10 Android 4.1.2. What would you recommend if looking for stability?
_SpAiK_ said:
Ok, so now I'm into work. I've already rooted and installed 2init. Nest step is to install a custom rom but I can't decide from this three: Epsylon3's CM9.1 Android 4.0.4, [email protected]'s CM10 Moto Ice Gun Edition or Quarx's CM10 Android 4.1.2. What would you recommend if looking for stability?
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Sorry, as you see in the sticky in this very section, asking which is ROM is best in any category (stability, speed, whatever) is strictly against forum rules. Thanks for your cooperation.
TeeJay3800 said:
Sorry, as you see in the sticky in this very section, asking which is ROM is best in any category (stability, speed, whatever) is strictly against forum rules. Thanks for your cooperation.
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