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I sold my TF101 today on ebay for 245 no dock 8gb and a leather case. My baby was in good condition. I will be getting a Nexus 7 for now. Until they come up with something higher than 1080p and quad core.
It's funny I'm going from 10.1 to a 7inch. I hate 7 inch tablets but since it's a Google tablet. I'm giving it a try.
I'm going to miss this community. We have so many talented devs here. I hope the Nexus 7 forum is the same.
It will be shipped on Tuesday morning. I have one last day with it.
If any of you got a Nexus 7 please leave some feeds thanks :'(
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Nexus 7 is great I have TF101 and N7. Just watch out for screen lift in your device and you might want to wait for a new batch of N7 for them to fix it.
i was going to get a higher res one and/or faster one but now that jellybean is out this thing is so damn fast... i'm pretty picky and i'm actually happy with it. i wish the bezel was smaller though.
looking at the windows 8 tabs since i'm enjoying my samsung focus flash.
It would be interesting to hear a long term (after the honeymoon) report from you six months down the road. Specifically looking to hear what your experience was going from a 10 to a 7.
I waited for the Infinity and now I'm waiting for the Amazon Fire 2. By Sep 6 I will know for sure if the F2 will beat the N7 then decision time!
BTW, I'm keeping my 101s. The 1280x800 res will be here for a long time and the Tegra 2 is not a slouch either.
What do you think the Kindle Fire will have that will make it so compelling? Stock Google love with Tegra 3 and a 216ppi display is pretty hard to beat.
Yup its gone so sad I'm using my Sensation now till the N7 gets here
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I was considering doing the same, but I thought that the portrait orientation and smaller screen size would outweigh the benefits of the Nexus 7. I'm very happy with my TF101, and if I'm going to get a new tablet it would have to be of a similar size.
you`ll regret it I am afraid, 7 inch is too small.
Had the original galaxy tab and as my first major android device I thought it was wicked. Only issue for me is that it genuinely felt like an over sized smart phone at times so when I got the tf with the dock it just felt like a proper tablet experience.
However, I've heard the nexus7 is a great performer and video and games run real sweet. I sometimes miss that pocket size portability of the gtab...... but then I guess that's why I got my s2.
Thinking about the tf300 but may wait for the infinity and the big price drop that I've been informed about.
All the best dude
My primary reason for getting a 7 is portability and if the F2 can match the N7 with better memory and battery life then I may go for it. Just have to wait and see what Amazon has to offer.
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I had a seven inch tablet before my Transformer. It was very portable so I see the attraction to the form factor. My personal preference is for the ten inch though.
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I had a seven inch tablet before my Transformer. It was very portable so I see the attraction to the form factor. My personal preference is for the ten inch though.
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I initially didn't want a 7 but as the resolution improved so did the legibility, N7 is definitely one of my choices but Amazon's next tab is about to be announced so holding my breath.
I was considering the N7, but since I have a Galaxy S2 (which, while not GNote-sized, is pretty big already), I don't need a portable tablet. I might switch up or get the Surface tablet though... that keyboard cover looks interesting. But I mean, that's what I thought about the keyboard dock too.
I have both the TF and the N7, and ever since I picked up the N7 about a month ago, that's all I use. The speed is incredible. I've run RaymanFX's JB ROM and CM9, and while both were improvements over stock, it doesn't hold a candle to the smoothness of the N7. Most of my tablet use is browsing in Chrome, and that's also where there's the biggest difference. The performance improvement in other areas isn't as dramatic.
The other major plus is the portability. It fits in my suit pocket, my jacket pocket, and even in the pockets of my shorts. As a result, I'm more likely to carry it around with me. I never bothered tethering before, but since I have the N7 with me often, it comes in handy.
If a keyboard is somewhat important, there are a number of folio cases with BT keyboards available for about $30-40. Sure, it's not as elegant as the TF solution, but it works. Since you're coming from HC/ICS on the TF, I would strongly recommend switching your N7 to the tablet UI. The phone UI just doesn't do it justice.
The N7 will probably be my last Android tablet for a while. I'm looking to pick up the Transformer Book. I'm a Windows consultant, so the idea of a Windows 8 tablet/laptop is pretty appealing. Plus I can run StarCraft .
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I have both the TF and the N7, and ever since I picked up the N7 about a month ago, that's all I use. The speed is incredible. I've run RaymanFX's JB ROM and CM9, and while both were improvements over stock, it doesn't hold a candle to the smoothness of the N7. Most of my tablet use is browsing in Chrome, and that's also where there's the biggest difference. The performance improvement in other areas isn't as dramatic.
The other major plus is the portability. It fits in my suit pocket, my jacket pocket, and even in the pockets of my shorts. As a result, I'm more likely to carry it around with me. I never bothered tethering before, but since I have the N7 with me often, it comes in handy.
If a keyboard is somewhat important, there are a number of folio cases with BT keyboards available for about $30-40. Sure, it's not as elegant as the TF solution, but it works. Since you're coming from HC/ICS on the TF, I would strongly recommend switching your N7 to the tablet UI. The phone UI just doesn't do it justice.
The N7 will probably be my last Android tablet for a while. I'm looking to pick up the Transformer Book. I'm a Windows consultant, so the idea of a Windows 8 tablet/laptop is pretty appealing. Plus I can run StarCraft .
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You took the words out of my mouth, a 7incher is definitely more convenient to carry around. AFA Amazon's K2, if it comes with free 3G like their KDX it could blow away the competition. With GPS and 3G, navigation will be an attractive feature.
So what would you guys suggest, a 10 inch or 7 inch tablet? I'm really torn in the decision to keep my TF101 or "upgrade" to a 7 in Nexus 7. I know it is easier to carry around but is the 3 inch difference in screen size a major difference. I need your opinions!
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So what would you guys suggest, a 10 inch or 7 inch tablet? I'm really torn in the decision to keep my TF101 or "upgrade" to a 7 in Nexus 7. I know it is easier to carry around but is the 3 inch difference in screen size a major difference. I need your opinions!
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7 inch on the road, 10 inch or more at home or office. But format is only part of the story, the other consideration is specs like wifi, gps, camera and bluetooth. I intend to have both.
I was going to but the N7 at staples on Tuesday but ima wait for amazon offer (s) first before I spend money. I still need a tablet.i hate using my vita at my college.
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So what would you guys suggest, a 10 inch or 7 inch tablet? I'm really torn in the decision to keep my TF101 or "upgrade" to a 7 in Nexus 7. I know it is easier to carry around but is the 3 inch difference in screen size a major difference. I need your opinions!
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for me it´s a simple choice, i´m always with a backpack so 10 or 7 it really doesn´t matter...
but from experience, i found the tf101 a little "tall" for portrait reading... the balance is just not right to do that naturally..
I bought my wife a N7 and we really like it, now I need to get myself one. But the limited 16GB storage ain't cutting it and the wimpy little speakers from N7 is another negative. I'm aware of getting OTG usb adapter to run thumb drive with stickmount app but I don't want to deal with the hassle of having a dildo looking thing hanging down from the N7 tablet when i'm on the go. I don't care about custom rom either, have already tried several ROMs for the N7 in both development sections and none impresses me, they all have bugs, lag, and other crap, so I restored our N7 back to stock and it's butter smooth and couldn't be happier. I'm looking into ipad 3 64GB version or the Asus Infinity 64GB, the latter have SD slot but I keep hearing how the Asus have quality problem so I'm a bit reluctant to get another Asus. I know I would definitely enjoy the Retina display from ipad 3, i have seen one in person and it's all eye candy! Does anybody own both the N7 + ipad 3 or infinity? what's your thought?
I primarily use an iPad 3rd gen (32gb wifi). Just won an N7 thanks to ProClip, and and have found myself using it as my reading device with great success. I would recommend the iPad for the app selection alone.
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If you're not using custom ROMs and are asking this forum whether to get an ipad or an android tablet, you're either a troll or just clueless.
In either situation, I recommend you get an iPad and find a different forum.
I have a ipad 3 32GB wifi and a nexus 7. You can't go wrong with the retina display the ipad has. Like you said, It's eye candy. I do love the N7 because of it's portability. It's small, can fit in your pocket if you have big enough pockets.. I love them both. Glad I have them both!
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I have a ipad 3 32GB wifi and a nexus 7. You can't go wrong with the retina display the ipad has. Like you said, It's eye candy. I do love the N7 because of it's portability. It's small, can fit in your pocket if you have big enough pockets.. I love them both. Glad I have them both!
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Glad to hear, we already have 2 Android phones running on UKB roms along with the N7 on stock JB now, but never own anything from apple so I thought why not throw in a bit of variety? when i have the itch to flash custom roms I can always do it on the Dinc2 or the N7 so I ain't missing anything. The Retina display would be the top reason to get the Ipad 3, that long with bigger storage. I'm using the NEC PA271W on my PC for photo and video editing so I'm a bit spoiled by wide gamut display, the ipad 3 is as close to sRGB as we can get at this point in time. fishfuzz also bring up a good point, app selection, but is the long charging time really that bad on the ipad 3?
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Glad to hear, we already have 2 Android phones running on UKB roms along with the N7 on stock JB now, but never own anything from apple so I thought why not throw in a bit of variety? when i have the itch to flash custom roms I can always do it on the Dinc2 or the N7 so I ain't missing anything. The Retina display would be the top reason to get the Ipad 3, that long with bigger storage. I'm using the NEC PA271W on my PC for photo and video editing so I'm a bit spoiled by wide gamut display, the ipad 3 is as close to sRGB as we can get at this point in time. fishfuzz also bring up a good point, app selection, but is the long charging time really that bad on the ipad 3?
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At least a full night to full charge it .. especially if it's at 0.
I have both the IPad 3 and N7 and they are pretty good companions. The N7 gets used more here as it has that perfect size and we here all have Android phones. But for any critical viewing or listening we use the IPad.
If you want to spend the money go get the 64GB IPad, it's an excellent tablet and the image quality is unbeatable. The only other Android tablet would consider is the T700 and like you I have issues with trying out another Asus tablet.
Well this is a nexus forum lol... But what are u looking for in a tablet? As much as I hate apple, I will agree that they do make a quality product that is very user friendly that and they have a nice selection of apps. Memory is always important and the n7 Deff lacks memory but I have a usb otg. Also keep in mind that the ipad mini will be available soon so if size is a factor than u will have 2 options available.
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I am personally waiting for the windows tabs to come out. I am leaning towards the surface or Ativ tab.
I wanted a 7'' tablet, so ipad was no option anyway.
...and i hate apple.
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I've had a tf101 and a tf201 and no issues regarding build quality. What really annoys me about Asus tablets, and the reason I won't buy another, is that you need to unlock the bootloader to root and once is unlocked you can't ever receive over the air updates again.
If Asus won't allow me to make my tablet resellable again after rooting, I'm looking elsewhere.
I did consider a galaxy note 10.1 but the display resolution is a bit low for a 10" tab. It looks ok just text in particular just isn't that sharp.
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I have iPad3 and nexus 7. I had the tf101. The prior comments on iPad3 are true, but no one mentions the relatively sloowwwwww CPU. At the speed the market is moving, I would wait for something that has nexus 7 relative speed, iPad3 relative screen + GPU, thin and light.
The nexus 7 is nicely balanced on CPU, GPU, pixel density, screen vibrancy, energy use, responsiveness, etc. The crop of tablets next year should be able to do this, in a larger screen. I would wait.
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If you're not using custom ROMs and are asking this forum whether to get an ipad or an android tablet, you're either a troll or just clueless.
In either situation, I recommend you get an iPad and find a different forum.
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Awsome !
Do you guys think it's a good change or not worth it? My main reason alone is size.
Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
In portrait its too long and tall and in landscape not much content is shown on websites, forums, etc.
So that's why I'm thinking the Nexus 7 might be a better choice for me. I tried the original 7 a couple of weeks ago and it was nice. I'm concerned I might miss the bigger screen of the 10 too much, specially for web browsing and videos. Everything else should be better in the 7: playing games (the 10 is too big to play games comfortably in landscape. My thumbs almost don't reach the on screen buttons), reading forums with Tapatalk, YouTube browsing, eBook reading, e-mail, viewing pictures, etc.
Plus with the 7 I would get 32GB for much less than with another Nexus 10. Mine is 16GB now.
Anyone has changed from a Nexus 10 to the new 7? It still has 2GB RAM, HD screen, etc. So it's not that different.
What do you guys think? Should I make the change?
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Do you guys think it's a good change or not worth it? My main reason alone is size.
Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
In portrait its too long and tall and in landscape not much content is shown on websites, forums, etc.
So that's why I'm thinking the Nexus 7 might be a better choice for me. I tried the original 7 a couple of weeks ago and it was nice. I'm concerned I might miss the bigger screen of the 10 too much, specially for web browsing and videos. Everything else should be better in the 7: playing games (the 10 is too big to play games comfortably in landscape. My thumbs almost don't reach the on screen buttons), reading forums with Tapatalk, YouTube browsing, eBook reading, e-mail, viewing pictures, etc.
Plus with the 7 I would get 32GB for much less than with another Nexus 10. Mine is 16GB now.
Anyone has changed from a Nexus 10 to the new 7? It still has 2GB RAM, HD screen, etc. So it's not that different.
What do you guys think? Should I make the change?
Thanks.
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Well you need to check your priorities. Before the nexus 7 I always thought a bigger tablet would be always better. I enjoy more the nexus 7 cause i usae it to read a lot, and the nexus 10 is kinda big to read comfortably, and it's heavy, the nexus 7 is comapct and a great tablet to read check your mail, browse the web and etc...
buut, if you use it like a notebook, with bluetooth keyboard to write documents, or to play games with a bluetooth controller ( that's great) and that kinda stuff the nexus 10 is a better choice.
Today i wouldn't trade my nexus 7 for a nexus 10.
I did (but selling the N10 2 months before the new Nexus 7 became available). I am very happy with the switch. For all intents and purposes, the Nexus 7 took the Nexus 10's soft touch feel and made the screen brighter. It really comes down to a question of style. Do you like the size of magazines and 8x10 notebooks more than the size of hardcover novels and day planners.
Another upside is, if you don't like the Nexus 7, it looks like the Nexus 10 is getting a revision this fall with a much faster processor (and that tablet release will reduce the resale value of the original Nexus 10 just as the original Nexus 7 prices fell with the new one.
What I now want post N7 is a top notch 4.0-4.3" phone (HTC First sized + microSD).
Sensamic said:
Do you guys think it's a good change or not worth it? My main reason alone is size.
Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
In portrait its too long and tall and in landscape not much content is shown on websites, forums, etc.
So that's why I'm thinking the Nexus 7 might be a better choice for me. I tried the original 7 a couple of weeks ago and it was nice. I'm concerned I might miss the bigger screen of the 10 too much, specially for web browsing and videos. Everything else should be better in the 7: playing games (the 10 is too big to play games comfortably in landscape. My thumbs almost don't reach the on screen buttons), reading forums with Tapatalk, YouTube browsing, eBook reading, e-mail, viewing pictures, etc.
Plus with the 7 I would get 32GB for much less than with another Nexus 10. Mine is 16GB now.
Anyone has changed from a Nexus 10 to the new 7? It still has 2GB RAM, HD screen, etc. So it's not that different.
What do you guys think? Should I make the change?
Thanks.
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I feel like a powerful home computer, 7 inch tablet, and an LTE smartphone is the best setup you can have.
A ten inch tablet is just too big to be used comfortably around the house. I used to use the iPad 2 a couple years back as my main media consumption device but switched to the OG Nexus 7 on release day. I recently upgraded to the new Nexus 7 and don't plan on switching to anything larger than 8.9 inches.
If I were you I would pick up a 32Gb and see how you like it. If it's not for you then return it and keep your Nexus 10. If you like it then keep it and sell the Nexus 10.
Either way the N10 and N7 are both great tabs you can't go wrong with.
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I'm wondering if I should sell my iPad 3 for the the nexus . iOS is just boring .
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That's a decision only you can make, honestly! You know what your wants and needs are, we don't. I just bought my '13 Nexus 7 last night from my local Best Buy. That said, I still have and still love my Asus Infinity (10" tablet) and I definitely would NOT sell it! I also have an Evo LTE and a Note 2, but wanted a 7" tablet as well. I was going to buy the Nexus 7 at the first of the year, but heard rumors that an HD version was in the works so I waited for it. I'll still use my Asus Infinity as my primary gaming tablet, played Dead Trigger last night actually. Paired with the Sixaxis app and a PS3 controller, it can't be beat! Especially with its mini HDMI port built in to the side and hooked to me 55" LED TV!! I do like that the Nexus 7 is more portable, and will also use it to read my Google Play Magazine subscriptions. No way I could give up my 10" tablet though! If i had to decide between the 2, I'd take back my Nexus 7 and keep my Infinity, no doubt about it! With the ability to have both though, the Nexus 7 is a nice addition to my Android line-up!! If I were you, and had to decide between the 2, then I'd keep the Nexus 10! That's just MY opinion based on my wants/needs though. That's why I say that only you can decide which device fits your wants/needs the best! Good luck with your decision!!
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In a word: No.
I have both the N10 and the N7.
The N10 is a better consumption device. The larger screen is better for watching videos, playing games, browsing the web, reading ebooks - you can fit two pages on it at a time- and you can view magazine pages better on it.
The N7 is more portable. You can hold it with one hand.
The screen on the new nexus 7 is really sharp, I can't tell a difference in reading text on it versus the 10. That combined with the better form factor makes the N10 obsolete for me personally. I don't really think Android (or iOS for that matter) is suited for a 10" screen. Sure it helps if you are watching videos but if I'm watching something for longer than 15 mins I will usually just use my Laptop or TV.
The only thing I miss from the nexus 10 was the TRUE rubber back. The new nexus 7 doesn't really compare to the soft touch of the back cover on the N10.
If you vastly prefer the 10" screen though I would recommend selling anyway, that way you can get a nice chunk of change back to purchase the new nexus 10, which will apparently have a qualcomm in it, none of the exynos bull****.
I think you just being hypnotized by the newness of a new nexus, I am feeling this even though pound for pound my note 10.1 is better, but I will say this, the nexus 7 is a very comfortable and portable device
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Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
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I'm with you 100%. I bought the 10 but am going to return it. Other than watching movies, I just don't think 16x10 works for a tablet that big. It's awkward to hold and despite being a huge screen I'm always feeling squeezed and wishing it were 4x3.
I find myself using the 7 more. The only time the 10 wins out is if I'm sitting on the couch and can comfortably rest the 10 on my lap. But as soon as I lie down, move around, etc I am reaching for the 7. I don't love 16x7 on the 7 either but its easy enough to hold and type that the length doesn't hinder usability.
If you could I would do both! I have a n10 and note 8. I mainly use the 8 to travel or take it to work and it fits nicely in my glove compartment. My n10 stays at home and is used to play music, games, watch videos and a huge remote for my TV. Some people might think its too much but I find it perfect for my needs. Ohh and I also have a note 2!!! Thinking of picking up the new n7 for the wife.
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guess u can play games easily and good in enw nexus 7! its snap dragon s4pro
It's a hard choice. I like bigger screen tablets because I don't have a laptop, but I've been thinking of changing to another tablet for some months now, just because the Nexus 10 is too uncomfortable to use.
That's the only reason. The 7 is too small for web browsing, but everything else should be ok.
Don't know what to do. I won't buy another 10 inch tablet because all of them have the same aspect ratio, so the only choices are keep the Nexus 10 or buy the 7.
It has to be a Nexus tablet obviously.
I had a nexus 10 back I. December/January that I returned. I like it a lot but I couldn't justify it since I already had a nexus 7. My other complaint was the colors and view angles. I hope the next nexus 10 has the same type of panel as this new nexus 7. This panel is literally perfect.
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The 7 is too small for web browsing, but everything else should be ok.
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x100.
I tried browsing the web last night with my N7v2, and the screen was just too small. I had to zoom in every time to accurately click on links or the "Next" button on forums.
I will be returning the N7v2 in about a week though - it's a fun toy and all, but I much prefer my N10.
It's funny because I used to agree with the majority of the posters here, about how the N10 is too uncomfortable to hold. I first bought the N7v1 and thought it was perfect to hold. Then I gave it away. Then I bought an N10 and first thought it was too awkward and cumbersome to hold - but after using it for a few days, I got used to it. I also much preferred the larger screen for everything - gaming, quick YouTube videos, browsing the internet - what I mostly do with it. Reading magazines is a pleasure with the 10 inch screen of the N10, but it's way too small for the N7v2.
The N7v2 also isn't as nice to hold as the N7v1. The N7v2 is narrower in portrait mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because your thumbs are overreaching when you search for keys. The N7v2 is also wider in landscape mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because now your thumbs just can't quite reach the keys as easily. The N7v1 is still the best tablet to hold IMO.
Just my opinion though.
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The N7v2 also isn't as nice to hold as the N7v1. The N7v2 is narrower in portrait mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because your thumbs are overreaching when you search for keys. The N7v2 is also wider in landscape mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because now your thumbs just can't quite reach the keys as easily. The N7v1 is still the best tablet to hold IMO.
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I actually just bought a N7v1 for exactly this reason. I think the v2 is going back. It feels soooo much better in my hands. And while the v2 resolution is better I don't have s lot desire to read microscopic fonts. If the characters are small enough to be jagged on the v1 then I'm pinching and zooming anyway. For fonts that are reasonably sized the v1 ppi is fine.
Call me crazy but for $150 new I'll take the v1 until something more appealing comes along.
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I actually just bought a N7v1 for exactly this reason. I think the v2 is going back. It feels soooo much better in my hands. And while the v2 resolution is better I don't have s lot desire to read microscopic fonts. If the characters are small enough to be jagged on the v1 then I'm pinching and zooming anyway. For fonts that are reasonably sized the v1 ppi is fine.
Call me crazy but for $150 new I'll take the v1 until something more appealing comes along.
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I too find that the nexus 7 v1 feels better in hand than the second one, the second one feels too slippery, like its gonna fall of my hands.
But except that I prefer the v 2
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The thing I don't like about the n10 is that a lot of phone apps force you to turn it in portrait. Blatantly obvious that it doesn't thrive in portrait.
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I guess if i were you , i would wait for refreshed nexus 10 coming by october/november.
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I'm not too much interested in the next one because it probably will be the same size and aspect ratio as the original Nexus 10, which is my only problem with the tablet: 16:10 aspect ratio is uncomfortable.
That's why I was thinking maybe the Nexus 7 would be better, but I'm still not sure.
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I've owned a N7 2012 for about a year, and I have a buyer for my old one, so I'm looking at upgrading. I haven't used a stylus device in years, but I used to love them: precision text editing, sketches to supplement an explanation, and unambiguous link clicking in the browser.
I expect longevity from my devices, and my previous experience has been that the charging connector breaks first on every mobile device I've had. This gives the N7 the serious advantage with the Qi inductive charging.
OTOH, the Note's performance is more future-proof: a 96GB Note (thanks SD-card expansion) will stay useful longer with a 32GB N7, and the benchmarks also come out clearly in favour of the Note: (Slashgear Note 6900 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/quadrant_gnote8_attwtmk.jpg vs N7 5600 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content...enshot_2013-07-25-13-17-52-google-nexus-7.jpg ).
But the performance doesn't count for all that much, since my main use for my current N7 has been reading: PDFs, e-books and websites. I use it mostly around the house, and my phone when I'm out and about.
Can anyone suggest something I haven't considered that may be relevant? The price isn't going to sway me much one way or the other.
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I prefer note 8 due to larger size and I won't mind carrying a slightly bigger one. Was coming from 7.7. I would have taken if it's nexus 8.
Happy user of note 8.
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I don't know what I can add except my reason for buying a Note 8.0--the pen. I bought my Note for school to replace everything in my bookbag--no more notebooks, no more laptop, no more text books. So far I'm very happy with my decision. I was also considering the new Nexus but because I wanted the ability to take notes, the lack of a wacom pen was off-putting. The Note was well worth the extra money for me.
I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available
I had the nexus 7.2 for a week and a half, the 16Gb version and it had a very nice screen fast processor but returned it due to frequent reboots, apparently it only happens on the 16Gb version. Got the note 8 instead. Am very satisfied with it.
I'd recommend you get the Nexus 7.2 first use it for a week then return and get the Note 8, that way you can see the strength and weakness of both and then decide which one is more useful to you. I am glad I did that, the Nexus 7.2 was how to say this not to hurt anyones feelings -plain vanilla- which is not bad, but you can't really compare the two because of the S pen feature on the Note 8. The Note 8 screen is not bad at all, but the 7.2 beats it, and I find that I do use the S pen more often than I thought I would. Also I'm a long time Samsung user and I like their products. I gave the Nexus 7.2 a try but am more comfortable with the Note 8, also love the S pen, for that alone it was worth it to me.
So as I mentioned get one use it as is for a week or two then return it and get the other one. Test both, but in my opinion you can't really pin the two tablets against each other. They are both good just depends what you are going to use it for, if you're a big game player get the Nexus, if you going to use the tablet for other things get the Note 8
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why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available
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I've owned more than a few Samsung devices, I currently own a two SGS 3, AT&T and Sprint. Neither are on 4.2.2, which is why i'm on CM10.1.2. I'd be pretty happy with a TouchWiz 4.3, but I know Samsung is pretty lame at updates that's why I made that statement, if the Note does get the 4.2.2 update, that's great, but I don't think they will go past that.
Hopefully Samsung is doing an overhaul on TouchWiz all together, I may stick with Samsung devices, otherwise my next device will be a Nexus. I've given up hope for the skin based phones and updates.
It really comes down to how much you value the s-pen....i thought I'd get much more use out of it (i do a lot of handwritten note taking, but at meetings i typically type in notepad) and never did so I just put my Note8 up for sale because the extra $100 wasn't worth it because it was still faster/easier for me to jot something quick on a post it than to take out the spen, launch the note app, scribbe something, save it....
however when I was in school the ability to take down quick notes and write on-screen on pdfs/ppt was *very critical* and I loved my W7 tablet with ntrig (this is all pre-tablets so it just depends on your use case
With OTG usb, you can still use microsd on the Nexus7, althought it's a bit more work and takes up the charging port..not sure if the new N7 has that yet (you had to be rooted on the old N7 to use it)
screenwise, the new N7 quality is much better, but I find the slightly larger note 8 to actually be easier to read on and use
I'm close to making my final decision because I refuse to keep the Note 8.0 and the N7 (2013) that I currently have.
The N7 is super nice. The display keeps drawing me back over and over. I like the fact that I can watch Netflix on it and not accidentally press the back button like I tend to do on the Note 8.0. I love the crisp text in my ebooks. And who doesn't love stock?
The Note 8.0 is better from a productivity standpoint for me, and it's why it currently leads. Outside of holding it in landscape and pressing buttons accidentally, I actually prefer the feel of the Note 8.0 more than the new N7. The display isn't nearly as bad as some would have you believe either. Sure if you have it side by side the N7, you'll see it, but in my opinion it looks real good.
Also a sidenote for comic book readers. I use Comixology, and I'm not a fan of the panel to panel view unless I'm forced to use it due to something being very small. It's easier for me to read comics on the Note 8.0 compared to the N7. Probably because of the extra inch of real estate.
Probably the reason I still go back and forth is because I know I can expect updates and a vibrant dev community on the N7, but probably not so much with the Note 8.0. Heck, I have the AT&T LTE variant, and I sadly can't even root that yet. Good luck with your decision.
I went ahead and ordered the 32GB Nexus 7.2. I figure I can always sell it for about what I paid for it if I decide not to keep it.
I got the previous Nexus 7 as a gift, but actually ended up selling it (and keeping the more lowly spec'd Tab 2 7" I already had) because the Nexus was just so flaky. Apparently it was a great device prior to 4.1, but I only got onboard after that. Plus the speakers were PATHETIC (unacceptable for a device that screams multimedia consumption.) I'm hoping those are better this go-round as I use mine for backgound music/video quite a bit.
There's pros to being on the bleeding edge of updates I guess. But I almost view it like you're being an unofficial beta tester. Samsung may not always have the latest official Android version on all its flagship devices, but all my experiences with them to-date have been outstanding. There's a reason (beyond just marketing) that they're the most dominant OEM in the Android world.
If the primary purpose is reading as OP has posted, I would suggest note 8 to be better choice.
My primary reason for buying note 8.0 was reading (PDF's as well as comics) and considering that almost 38 GB of my external 64 Gig card is occupied by books i would say i am more than pleased by my choice.
The extra screen size does matter here though both share similar 16:10 aspect ratio , which is quite ok,
another surprise feature, the reading mode that samsung built into this is amazing (though it might appear strange at first) but now I just can't imagine reading without that , it's easier on eyes,less stress and for me makes for much better concentration. add a good reader app (I absolutely love the free perfect viewer app for pdf and comics)
The secondary thing for me was the s-pen. since i have been using wacom tablets on pc since late 90's I found this quite adequate. My N-5100 costed me around $530 USD) which is surely definitely on the costlier side of things however I would still consider it worth that extra dough.
I also primarily use this at home and mine is still unrooted (haven't found a need or reason to root it yet).
Gotta decide what's your most important feature.
For me tablets can have two distinct purposes, media consumption device or productivity device. As a media consumption device there isn't much use to me for a tablet because honestly, most things are just more convenient to do on my phone since I always have it, and it has a data connection.
Now as a productivity device, there are a couple things the note 8 excels at. PDF and textbook portability/editing, handwritten notes, and remote desktop control. The spen takes this device to a higher level of productivity because there is no device with a comparable stylus. But for anything else like word document editing, media production, music/picture editing, tablets in general fall short because laptops/desktops are just better.
So if you want a media consumption device, the new Nexus 7 is probably better or even the iPad for that matter. But for productivity the spen will make up for the other shortcomings like lower screen pixel density, less frequent operating system updates, etc.
MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.
It took me ages to decide between the N7 and note 8, and I decided on the note 8. But now I realise, that as I'm going university next year, I'll probably need a laptop, and I'm confused all over again
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I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.
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Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.
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4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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How is it compared to 4.1?
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Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.
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I haven't had any complaints about the Note 8.0 speakers either.
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How is it compared to 4.1?
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Maybe more smooth
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I own the original nexus 7...
I currently own an ipad 4 (so I'm used to looking at retina display), I've had the note 10.1, nexus 10, etc....
Honestly I think 8" is the sweet spot. I want to love thenew nexus 7 so bad but I feel like 7" is just a tad too small. The extra screen area from an 8" tablet seems sooo much larger and more usable when browsing websites. Am I crazy? I feel like I keep reading about screen clarity vs spen vs whatever ... but to me the real battle is do you prefer 7" vs 8" - I'm probably going to get both and then return the one I dont' like. As I said, I'm used to the retina screen as well as the beautiful screen on my htc one; however just playing around with the note in the store, the screen honestly isn't that bad and colors are quite quite good.
That said, the nexus 7 screen is by far superior BUT I still think the larger size provides so much better screen real estate and thus ease of use.
Anyone not get the nexus 7 simply because they don't like a 7" tablet?
I'm about to sell my Nexus 10 to buy a smaller tablet. The Nexus 10 is great but it's too big to use comfortably daily. Playing games is almost impossible and holding the tablet in portrait it's too uncomfortable.
I've narrowed it down to the new Nexus 7 or the upcoming LG G Pad 8.3. I prefer the LG because 8 inches seems to be the perfect screen size for gaming, video playback, web browsing and PDF reading.
The Nexus 7 has great price, updates, great stock experience and it's already available. But I feel I would get tired of the small screen too quickly. Reading PDFs would be almost impossible, as well as web browsing.
I've been thinking about it for days and still can't decide.
Do you guys that own the Nexus 7 feel the screen is too small after a few months with it? I'll be using the new tablet at home always. I think the LG is great because it's the first 8 inch tablet with 1080P screen. The snapdragon 600 inside is also better and the battery is bigger also, but I know I wouldn't get updates. This wouldn't be too much of a problem if the tablet works for me. I think I could keep an 8 inch tablet longer than a 7.
No. In fact I think the size is perfect. Its wide enough to hold in one hand comfortably (portrait). It fits in my front jeans pocket (barely). Big enough to do whatever on.
The N7 uses an under clocked S600. It has updated cores and GPU. I don't know why they called it an S4 Pro. So speed wise you will see very little difference.
LG never supports their products. It will probably come out with 4.2.2 just as we're getting 4.4. They have horrible update schedules. You're lucky to get one OS update before EOL. Development on them are also lacking. They usually come locked without an easy way to unlock. The LG G2 is rooted by a special method but remains locked.
It will probably never see an update past 4.4
I wouldn't pick a LG device unless I gave it several months to settle and see where it ends up with updates and dev. They make some great hardware but really botch up the software and support. The G2 seems like a great phone out of the box but will be left in the dust in a few months. Take your chances with their tablet but think about one thing:
How well will you like it in a year when the N7 has the latest and greatest Android (5.0?) and cool ROMs and mods, and you're stuck on an iffy modified stock rom with no support?
I left the Nexus line once, and it was rough.
The 7" is very nice because you want to downsize for toting. It fits easier into your coat pockets and lighter. 7 and 8 inches aren't that different unless you are comparing. Standalone you won't even notice the difference.
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Actually the N7's 7 inch display isn't too small for PDF and web browsing. Given its retina grade PPI, words are crisp even when they are zoomed out. I've been using it for my classes which I read PDF PowerPoint slides on daily basis, and I am happy with it. :good:
7 inch is also the largest you can get for comfortable 1 hand use with portrait mode. 8 inch tablets has to be held with 2 hands even in portrait.
You lay down, put tablet on your belly. Can be held with one hand...
So size doesn't matter.
Reading? n7 is good... No more headaches.
Oh well go with n7 and next year maybe a nexus8 will come out.
It sounds like you've answered your own question, you find 7" tablets to small. Both are excellent tablets, you can't really go wrong with either of them.
I've not used a Nexus 7 but have used a Galaxy Tab 2 7" and I thought the size was great for what it was, small, pocketable but 7" tablets are rather small for day to day use (they're fine for reading PDFs though, Kindles are even smaller).
Personally I find 10" tablets to big.
For me the iPad Mini is pretty much the perfect tablet size but Apple products interest me not. I was interested in the Galaxy Tab 3 8" but oddly for Samsung their Galaxy Tab specs are low. I understand both the Galaxy Tab 3 8" and LG G Pad 8.3 are roughly the same size and crucially aspect ratio as the iPad Mini.
It's the wider nature of 8" tablets that interest me and of course the LG G Pad 8.3 is a much better tablet than the Galaxy Tab 3 8".
Sure I doubt LG will upgrade the version of Android much (if at all), their track record is poor but you know what Android 4.2.2 is already a decent version of Android and it's not as if Android 4.3/4.4 add much.
Yes not getting Android 5.0 (possibly) would irk me but it's all about the size and aspect ratio with a tablet for me and 8" tablets are the "sweet spot". Plus I like the look of QSlide, it doesn't look as useful as Samsung's Multi-Window but is the next best thing. Being able to display two apps at once on a tablet is genuinely useful.
p.s - IMO this whole phones/tablets not getting the latest Android version is overrated, you've still bought a decent product (hopefully) and the past few Android upgrades have been minor anyway. Android 4.0 came out 2 years ago!
Reading is amazing especially with Play Books on N7
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I think the LG is better. But nobosy knows when it will be released..
I had the Nexus 7(2013) and returned it because of the nonfunctional GPS and random reboot issues. From what I understand, the GPS now works, but the reboot issues persist, and some still complain of multitouch issues.
I've got the LG G2 and it's the best phone I've ever owned. With that said, I'm looking forward to the G Pad. The Q-Pair software looks really slick, in that you can tether to your phone(supposedly any Android phone) for a data connection with one click. It will also send and receive texts and phone calls from a connected phone.
As to the comments about one handed use, the G Pad is a hair under 1/2" wider than the Nexus 7, thanks to the thin bezel. LG supposedly studied average hand sizes to come up with comfortable overall dimensions.
I'd say if you want the bleeding edge latest-greatest version of Android, and can live with the smaller screen, Asus build quality, and random reboots, go with the Nexus 7.
If you don't mind slow or no software updates, but want a bigger screen, most likely superior build quality, and hopefully no random reboots, go with the G Pad 8.3. That said, I'd still wait for it to hit the market to see if any serious issues surface.
I'm in the same situation as you. I currently have the nexus 7 and love the screen quality and all. It's good for reading super small texts but I've always felt like 8 inch screen was the perfect size. I'm waiting to see when the lg comes out and the price. If it's $299, that's a bargain and I'm probably gonna sell my nexus 7 and get the LG. I'm not too worried about software with the LG because I know I'm gonna end up rooting it and installing AOSP on it eventually.
Also I feel like the nexus 7 doesn't have a great build quality. my nexus 7 most likely has a grounding issue (ie: I have touches not registering when I place it flat on my bed or table) but who knows maybe lg will have the same problem. I would say wait for lg to come out, play with it, then make your decision
LG is terrible with releasing updates for their products. I'd actually wait a bit to see if the dev community does anything for it. I had a phone from them that they basically stopped doing updates for a month after it was released, rendering it useless. I had bought it on the basis that they were going to release an update for it, and after a year, they didn't.
My Nexus 7 2013 have been great, and have neither multitouch or random reboot issues. If the Gpad can be rooted/unlocked/restored as easily as Nexus 7 and have a Dev community just as large I might consider it. Otherwise I prefer the Nexus 7.
I have an N7 2013 running PA to get the Tablet UI, which I feel works much better than Phablet mode (lots more real estate).
I do feel the N7 bezels are a waste and would much prefer an 8" tablet with much smaller bezels. I had an iPad mini before the N7 (my wife has it now!) and as much as iOS is boring, it worked much better as a tablet in terms of its size. So I'm thinking the LG would close that gap.
Like others, however, I feel it would need to be BL unlockable to make the switch. I have hope only because it's a WiFi only device, thus no carriers to be beholden to.
LG G Pad 8.3 to be available October 14th in Korea and other markets by the end of the year.
Price: 510$.
Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.
I love the new N7. I just got rid of my iPad 3, it was big and of course boring. I'm not experiencing any of those issues, I rooted and unlocked it straight outta the box, still running stock ROM. It's great for web browsing and everything else of course. I personally think this is the best tablet on the market. You can't go wrong with price, usability and support from Google and XDA.
For on the go, I like the 2013 N7. My 2012 got really laggy even after the update. There are a few bugs still with the touch response, but its better now. Ill still use an iPad 3 at home, mainly because the wife prefers Apple. The LG looks like it could be nice, but not for the rumor prices.
It's really about the tradeoff you want to make. The new N7 is great and it wins where Nexus devices win: frequent updates, freedom to flash and competitive pricing. If you're a person (like me) who likes to muck about a lot, there's no alternative. With non-Nexus devices, I think you have to ask yourself if you're potentially comfortable with that device as-is for the entire time you own it. If it never got a new feature or the newest OS base and the like, would you be satisfied with the purchase? If you feel good saying yes to that, it sounds to me like the screen size is a big feature for you, so I'd go that way. If you're putting your faith in an OEM to fix or improve software, there's history to support the conclusion that you will generally be disappointed, as a rule of thumb. Just go into the purchase with your eyes open to that likely scenario and you'll be fine.
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Today I went to a store to try again the Nexus 7 and I think I'm sold. Great screen, great materials, very nice to hold with one hand, stock android, etc. Then I tried the Note 8.0 and Tab 3 8.0 and they felt heavier and my hand got tired much quickly than with the Nexus 7. Screen was not that bad, but comparing touchwiz to stock on the Nexus 7 showed me again stock is better for a tablet.
I'm not gonna wait for the LG. Will try the Nexus 7 for a week and see how that goes.
Fistly, for comparing, we must try in hand G8.
I bought a month ago N7 lte, and now thinking to try G8, and if it will be the same in tactical feelings i prefer 8 inch vs 7 inch.
10 inches is big for mobility, 7 - small for reading. 8 - best compromise.
And of course, price is one more important factor.
Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.
This tablet is great. Bought it today to replace my Nexus 10, which is a great tablet but I just can't use it comfortably holding it for hours. Too heavy and big. Playing games was impossible, as doing almost everything else.
I wasn't quite sure about 7 inches, but after a couple of hours playing with the device I can say it's great. It's AWESOME being able to hold the tablet with one hand for long periods of time without problems.
The screen is even better than the one in my Nexus 10: more bright and better colors. It just pops out.
The performance is great also. It may be slightly slightly faster and more fluid. It's great having such a good GPU: the adreno 320. I've gotalso more RAM available now, since with the Nexus 10 we were losing more and more RAM with every update Google released. They were giving more memory to the GPU and in the end I only had 500MB free. Now I have 1,2GB! This is after all apps installed and everything obviously.
It's so light and comfortable. In the end this is the most important feature.
I'm super impressed with the quality of the speakers! So loud and clear! I got the 32GB model for 249. Great price.
I can definitely see that Google has put more care in the software performance of this device than on the Nexus 10. Performance is consistent, no lags, no reboots or freezes for now. Even touch response is better than on the Nexus 10. Trust me.
I can finally play games comfortably and do everything without having to hold in my hands such a huge tablet. No more 9 inch tablets or bigger for me thanks. Even 8 inches seems big now. I actually tried the Note 8.0 and Tab 3 8.0 on the store before buying the Nexus 7 and they weren't as comfortable to hold as the Nexus 7. The plastic was horrible and it slips out of my hands. Touchwiz didn't perform half as quick and smooth as stock on the Nexus 7.
This is the best experience I've had with Android definitely. Can't imaging how Google will be able to improve this hardware anymore in the next versions. The materials are excellent, screen can't be better, loud speakers... and I'm even getting great battery life.
Now just waiting for 4.4. So happy right now. Selling my Nexus 10 this week.
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That's the conversion price. you can't go off of that because the US price will be different from the won price. example: the note 8 has the same won price as the lg g pad but only costed $400 in the US. the ipad mini was 640,000 won (vs 650,000 for note 8 and lg g pad) and only costed $329 in the US. only way to tell the true cost will be to wait until they release that info for the US, which is after South Korea so next!