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Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, i havent been able to get an answer as of yet to the following question:
Is the metal battery panel magnetic? I have seen lots of conflicting information about the panel, and most reviews simply say that it is metallic.
I was thinking about making a magnetic car mount using a HDD magnet, if it is magnetic then is it thick enough to allow the magnet to grab with enough force?
Thanks in advance.
As far as I recall it isn't.
Using a magnet on a computer device is generally not a good idea. Plus you'll most certainly disrupt the internal compass, if not messing with ROM/RAM/SDcard data...
I wouldn't risk to brick my HD2 in order to create a ghetto carkit holder...
Rollmops said:
Using a magnet on a computer device is generally not a good idea. Plus you'll most certainly disrupt the internal compass, if not messing with ROM/RAM/SDcard data...
I wouldn't risk to brick my HD2 in order to create a ghetto carkit holder...
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The reason magnets are considered to be bad for computers is because of the fact that HDDs (and, further back, FDDs) use magnetic heads and disks to store and retrieve information.
If you aren't using a traditional HDD, or a FDD, then a magnet will not affect your computer.
However, the point about the compass is very valid.
As Spike said, solid state devices (ROM/RAM/SD) arent susceptible to being wiped by magnets. I did think about magnetic interference to the compass, but thought it was worth a try as HTC have released their own magnetic car mount, admittedly with a redesigned battery cover...
While we are on the topic of the digital compass, will a strong magnet cause any permanent damage to it? AFAIK it just results in the phone needing to be recalibrated, anyone have any experience with this?
whatever the point about the compass valid or not it won't work. tried it on my old krussel quick mount i have still stuck to my dashboard and i can confirm it is not / very little magnetic. would not come close to staying on.
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As Spike said, solid state devices (ROM/RAM/SD) arent susceptible to being wiped by magnets. I did think about magnetic interference to the compass, but thought it was worth a try as HTC have released their own magnetic car mount, admittedly with a redesigned battery cover...
While we are on the topic of the digital compass, will a strong magnet cause any permanent damage to it? AFAIK it just results in the phone needing to be recalibrated, anyone have any experience with this?
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I might be mistaken but I think on the one from htc the magnets only keep it from falling of the mounting brackets, they don't carry the full weight of the hd2. I have a magnet in my iMagnum case but it only interferes the compass one degree.. nothing to get lost over...
poita said:
As Spike said, solid state devices (ROM/RAM/SD) arent susceptible to being wiped by magnets. I did think about magnetic interference to the compass, but thought it was worth a try as HTC have released their own magnetic car mount, admittedly with a redesigned battery cover...
While we are on the topic of the digital compass, will a strong magnet cause any permanent damage to it? AFAIK it just results in the phone needing to be recalibrated, anyone have any experience with this?
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that design of mount has been abbandoned by htc in favour of a more traditional holder. have seen the new design on clove. maybe htc realised it affected the compass?
optiknerv: Thanks for checking
At the request of a member on the Oppo Forums I am going to share my video review of the Oppo Easy Cover Case Review. I got one of these free with the first batch of Find 5 orders and it is a decent case and choice for your new Find 5. It is a cover case with kickstand functionality and decent build quality. Let me know what you think and if you will buy one.
http://youtu.be/ugdVf4UPvBI
nice review man !
To bad they are not being sold anymore...
Thanks for the awesome vid! I have one request, hoping that you can fulfill. Can you throw on Nova Launcher and make a video of it? I want to see what it looks like on this phone as i am on the fence for purchasing it. Thanks!!
Very nice video,again.
Is that the same as this one ?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...for-oppo-x909-find-5-holsteins/756741774.html
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Is that the same as this one ?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...for-oppo-x909-find-5-holsteins/756741774.html
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At the beginn7ng I liked it very much, but I got annoyed very fast because the leather is not very hany when u use the phone, it just doesnt fit very properly in your hand....also the plastic cover broke on two sides without dropping it, so I would not recommend that case....I got meifeng sandcase now and I am satisfied with that one...
"Thanks for the awesome vid! I have one request, hoping that you can fulfill. Can you throw on Nova Launcher and make a video of it? I want to see what it looks like on this phone as i am on the fence for purchasing it. Thanks!!"
I have made a full review of the Oppo Find 5 Please view for I demo Nova Launcher on it.
http://youtu.be/xHtZ-uToFr0
This cover is back in stock on oppostyle, I find it a bit to expensive. ( including delivery costs)
Does anyone know if the flip-open-to-wake function also works with non-stock ROMS? In other words: is it a hardware- or software feature?
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Does anyone know if the flip-open-to-wake function also works with non-stock ROMS? In other words: is it a hardware- or software feature?
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Good question. I'm wondering where the magnetic sensor is. (If it's using the proximity sensor, this "feature" is going to eat a bit of battery...)
The Nexus 7 mag sensor did not require any modifications (although maybe there's an overlay setting somewhere...) - if this is prox-sensor based, it'll be much less likely to be integrated in CM (since something like that would be a battery hog...)
Edit: grouper has a lidControlsSleep category. If I can confirm this is done by magnetic sensor I'll flip that on in CM10.1
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Good question. I'm wondering where the magnetic sensor is. (If it's using the proximity sensor, this "feature" is going to eat a bit of battery...)
The Nexus 7 mag sensor did not require any modifications (although maybe there's an overlay setting somewhere...) - if this is prox-sensor based, it'll be much less likely to be integrated in CM (since something like that would be a battery hog...)
Edit: grouper has a lidControlsSleep category. If I can confirm this is done by magnetic sensor I'll flip that on in CM10.1
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I just did a quick test with a small magnet. The sensor seems to be located between the front-facing camera and the front-speaker. It switched the screen on, and I'm on the latest CM 10.1 build which you're working on.
So no need for extra stuf, works OOTB Now to find an affordable case with a magnet in it.
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I just did a quick test with a small magnet. The sensor seems to be located between the front-facing camera and the front-speaker. It switched the screen on, and I'm on the latest CM 10.1 build which you're working on.
So no need for extra stuf, works OOTB Now to find an affordable case with a magnet in it.
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Odd, I thought that feature was disabled by default. Also, the magnet I have didn't trigger it, however, it is a ****ty fridge magnet, so I need to find a better one and re-test.
I Know the flip cover wont work on CM11 note 3 (I have the original black wallet flip cover). But I have some questions about it:
- As far as I know the flip cover wont work on cm(11) for note 1 and 2 also, why why is this not built in cm?
- Has anybody got it to work on cm11 (using the original sensor in the flip cover, not the proximity sensor)
- can i expect it being build in in the future?
I really liked that when I opent my cover the screen went on so I miss it.
One of the reasons why I bought the note is the cover that really feels like it's part of the phone
Sorry for my bad english!
It doesn't work due to it being a Samsung mod.
Won't work using the original sensor, only proximity.
I wouldn't expect it to be implemented, however it *may* and that's a BIG may.
Yes, I was afraid of that. Its just a shame that a nice feature like that is lost
the other Samsung features like multi window and hand gestures are just stupid and i can do without them. And i am glad the s-pen still works (only no Samsung note app but i have papyrus)
The flip cover is just a shame
Use GMD_Spen for pen features, it's a great alternative :good:
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I Know the flip cover wont work on CM11 note 3 (I have the original black wallet flip cover). But I have some questions about it:
- As far as I know the flip cover wont work on cm(11) for note 1 and 2 also, why why is this not built in cm?
- Has anybody got it to work on cm11 (using the original sensor in the flip cover, not the proximity sensor)
- can i expect it being build in in the future?
I really liked that when I opent my cover the screen went on so I miss it.
One of the reasons why I bought the note is the cover that really feels like it's part of the phone
Sorry for my bad english!
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There's actually an ongoing project to support the original sensor of the s-view and flip wallet case. It's called Hall Monitor.
More info here:
https://github.com/durka/HallMonitor
And here:
https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.durka.hallmonitor
Apk download here:
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.durka.hallmonitor
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Use GMD_Spen for pen features, it's a great alternative :good:
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I also tried GMD Spen - it's a good piece of software but for some reason it was not playing well with CM Spen Add-on+Note Buddy installed, therefore I had to uninstall it.
Some Spen gestures are natively supported by CM11 (under Language & Input > Stylus gestures) and CM Spen Add-on+Note Buddy offer a set of useful extra features.
Both CM Spen Add-on and Note Buddy are available from the Play Store.
Try using tasker.
When the magnetic sensor reaches a certain level determined by the magnet in case screen turns on.
I used to use this method on my s4 to detect a magnet in my car dock and activate Bluetooth and start playing music.
If you want I can try and make you an app using tasker?
Just tested Hall Monitor on my Samsung Mega 6.3 running RR Rom, and so far so good.
Info:
Original note 3 cover works with cm12.1.
I open the cover and the phone awakes.
Didn't found a cover app yet....
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Free mobile app
Anyone knows about development revival of HallMonitor? Last version (0.4.2 from 22 Jul 2014) doesn't support CM12.(1) (see issue #52 on HallMonitor's GitHub page)
Discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2gddbl/google_cardboard_366_free_shipping_from_tinydeal/
Buy: http://www.tinydeal.com/diy-google-...es-for-iphone-samsung-cellphone-p-135220.html
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxAj2lyX4oU
Working:
TBA
Not Working:
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Update: According to this site, 'magnetic input' does not work with original Moto G:
http://gweb-cardboard.appspot.com/#compatibility
Update #2: Should work with Moto G LTE since it has an actual Gyroscope.
Update #3: I've ordered one to experiment; since it's cheap and it cannot be absolutely verified it will not work with Moto G's hardware. For example, the issues might only be with the official Cardboard app (and alternative apps are fine), or a custom ROM might enable it to work correctly.
interesting... please report if it works on an original moto g (no lte)
I will be testing with an original Moto G (XT1032), but it could be a few weeks before the headset arrives. Order still not even dispatched according to the website.
UPDATE: I've just read existing stock sold out and there won't be more until 29th September. I might not get the item now until mid/late October / early November.
ordered it 2 weeks ago. today I got this:
Thank you for shopping DIY Google Cardboard VR 3D Glasses EPATH-334753 on TinyDeal.com.
We experienced an unusually large number of orders. Now the mass production has been finished and the items have arrived in the warehouse ahead of schedule. All orders are processed and shipped by order date and order number without a stop.
We really appreciate your business. Please be patient for a little bit more. Thank you so much for your support and understanding.
Yours Sincerely,
TinyDeal Support Team
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My order status has now changed:
Order Status: Shipped
If using the magnet proves impossible with Moto G (1st Gen) - there is an alternative control option (other than just using your finger):
According to the Google cardboard official website, the magnet is used for clicking inside of demos. When you pull and release the ring, your phone's magnetometer detects changes in the magnetic field. Not all phones will be able to detect magnet pulls.
You can use Cardboard without the magnet by sticking copper tape along the side of the viewer and having it come into contact with the phone screen. When you tap twice on the copper tape with your finger, the phone will react as if it had detected a magnet pull.[Source]
If you want to make things a bit smoother, you can add a copper strip to the side, tape one end to your phone's screen and close it up - a double-tap on the strip will register as a screen-tap.[Source]
Although the [headset] works with any modern Android phone, it was designed for the Nexus 5. Many people reported problems with the magnetic sensor. That's because it's not in the same place on all phones. Having a slightly unusual phone, I ended up using a strip of cardboard with aluminum foil tape to do the same job.[Source]
i received my google cardboard today from a chinese supplier on aliexpress. assembled it and used it a little.
im using Moto G 2013 no lte version
my mini review
1. the magnet does not work, so the google cardboard apps are pretty much useless. but you can poke the display with your finger through the nose hole to activate the app.
2. again, the cardboard apps are rendered useless with the lack of gyroscope for linear motion sensing. so head tracking are out of the scope. the only apps that work pretty well without the gyro are rollercoaster vr with some degree of head tracking using accelerometer.
3. playing "3D side by side(sbs) video" on youtube is pleasant for me. its like having a big tv. the 3d effect turn out to be like the one you experience in a cinema with black&clear 3d glass.
4. for someone who are not used to wear any glass, like me. having to watch anything through a lens is a bit headache inducing experience. be warned.
5. 720p nature of our display is not forgiving when paired with the cardboard's lens. i can start seeing individual pixels, and even subpixel(rgb) if i focus enough on one spot.
anyway, i am pretty sure if you got a better spec'ed phone. the experience will be light years away from what i experienced just now.
@urra901109, can I just clarify what ROM you did your tests on? From my experience the Motorola Stock ROM does not necessarily indicate what is possible with the hardware. I won't be satisfied until tests are done with pure CyanogenMod and/or CarbonROM.
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@urra901109, can I just clarify what ROM you did your tests on? From my experience the Motorola Stock ROM does not necessarily indicate what is possible with the hardware. I won't be satisfied until tests are done with pure CyanogenMod and/or CarbonROM.
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i used the stock ROM.. but i think it will be pretty much the same across all ROM since most of what i talked is regarding hardware limitation(magnet sensor, and gyroscope) on the phone itself. i did enjoy it a for while with the 3d videos. but, later a headache caught me
ps: to overcome the gyroscope absence in this phone, i did connect it to xbox360 controller with the hope i can use right analog stick to pan left and right but no success on that, none of the VR apps i downloaded support the right analog stick. only the left analog is working.
Miracast is broken in stock ROM and works fine in CM / CarbonROM. Motorola have deliberately limited functionality in that case and who knows in what other instances.
I found it fairly poor with the Moto G. As reported, not only does the magnetic trigger not work, but the Moto G accelerometers don't work to control movement. The Google Cardboard demo app is fairly useless without that. Also the optics are fairly bad for the 4.5" screen of the Moto G. Probably a happier combo with the Nexus 5. Update: Yes, I tried it with a friend's Nexus 5, and it's much better. Do not buy the Cardboard kit unless you have a Nexus phone.
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I found it fairly poor with the Moto G. As reported, not only does the magnetic trigger not work, but the Moto G accelerometers don't work to control movement. The Google Cardboard demo app is fairly useless without that. Also the optics are fairly bad for the 4.5" screen of the Moto G. Probably a happier combo with the Nexus 5.
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i am quite dissapointed too with the absence of gyroscope in the first gen MOTO G, since head tracking is the whole idea about this VR thing. It is likely to cost a few cent more to add the sensor but they skipped on it. it is understandable though that they dont include it as the sensor are rarely used. but yesterday i had an idea about external usb gyro sensor. any one know if such a thing exists? may be we can use it without buying a new phone.
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i used galaxy note 3 with the google cardboard yesterday. it is much more enjoyable.. the screen door effect is not very pronounced like there is with first gen moto G. but the cardboard need some modification to make it focus properly and a few more hole to make it fit the Note 3, otherwise the lid will continously pressed on the volume button and power button
I guess I don't understand why they can't use the accelerometers in place of a dedicated gyroscopic sensor. In theory a 3-axis accelerometer should be able to do the exact same job, since it is impossible to move in any direction, including rotation, without causing an acceleration in one or more of the 3 axes.
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I guess I don't understand why they can't use the accelerometers in place of a dedicated gyroscopic sensor. In theory a 3-axis accelerometer should be able to do the exact same job, since it is impossible to move in any direction, including rotation, without causing an acceleration in one or more of the 3 axes.
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i dont get it either. on google streetview the simulated gyro does the job pretty flawlessly although a bit laggy but it is perfectly usable.
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i dont get it either. on google streetview the simulated gyro does the job pretty flawlessly although a bit laggy but it is perfectly usable.
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That is so cool! I had no idea that was possible now. And yes, you're right, it does illustrate exactly that there is no need for a gyroscopic sensor to use Cardboard apps. I wish Google would fix that.
I also wish Google would fix the magnetic declination issue in Google Maps. Where I am in Vancouver, the compass points 16 degrees off true north, so anything using compass north (like Streetview or navigation) is off by 16 degrees from the real world view unless corrected. It's not like Maps doesn't know the compass error from your current location, so it should be trivial to do the correction.
It might not be too much work for a DEV to have an option 'Use Accelerometer instead of Gyroscopic sensor' in their app / game. It's worth at least asking.
so on a moto g xt1033 this would not work ? even tho Google Night sky app works ?
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so on a moto g xt1033 this would not work ? even tho Google Night sky app works ?
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Correct.
Any update on the Moto G front?
Hi! Anyone still trying to make it work with the Moto G first gen?
I'm not a techie at all but I really really want to play with the Cardboard. And there is this cool kit for sale on Amazon now.
Its been a while since the last post so I'm hoping some clever person has come up with a way to make the accelerometer work.?
No cardboard navigation on Moto G(2013)
vocalico said:
interesting... please report if it works on an original moto g (no lte)
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I have the original moto g(2013) and cardboard navigation doesn't work on this model. As the gyroscope is missing. Only accelerometer doesn't help. And the magnet clicker is also not working may be because of weak magnetometer. Other features are working as expected.
How to improve the quality of the fingerprint sensor on the C9 Pro?
i am planning on buying this phone. is the fingerprint sensor really bad on this phone??? and is thefingerprint sensor made out of glass or plastic and does get scratched easily like s7 edge. i am questioning insead of answering sorry but i appreciate your reply...
No! The fingerprint sensor is only less sensitive than other models.
Less Sensitive! are you implying it doesnot work perfectly while touching the sensor but works fine while pressing the sensor/home button??? And does the fingerprint sensor easily gets scratch on it?
The fingerprint sensor works very poorly, worst of all the smartphones I had. While touching the sensor works fine or wrong (more often wrong).
The fingerprint sensor don't get scratch on it.
How long have you had your phone if its still under warranty you could have it checked near your local samsung customer care and thanks for the info Xd (keep us updated if you can)...