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Hey guys I was hoping you could help me out. Great site here and awesome community. Can someone just simply give me the proper reading material in order to port this? I am trying android developing I use to do some minor developing but never with android, I will have about a year of free time and I was thinking I might as well be productive. Just a start, yes I googled it, and I just get lots of crap of games ported to android not how it was ported. Just some beginner sites would be awesome. I know I can't just port games I need to know android basics just don't know where to look
Maybe here: http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html ?
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Maybe here: http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html ?
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Like I said anything would help
I love how every application or program have the same tutorial.. damn you to hell "Hello World"!!!!
A port is in progress at hackcasual dot net
Help is most definitely welcome.
Hello Everyone,
If you have not read there was a post made by vbhines wanting to start a group named QAM which is a development group completely for the android community (specifically the samsung captivate for the moment). This means no more flaming, no more trolling, no more blaming other people for stealing, no more fighting!
"We are a community for the community."
My plans for this group is to help improve the experience of any phone that we develop for. We will help out anyone that is in need meaning that if an app or a kernel or anything that will help improve the experience of android on our phones we may or may not make that specific item that is requested or wanted etc.
Since we are a community for a community everything we will be releasing will be open source so whatever way we choose (more then likely on github) to release the source of our work you will be able to get it. Our documentation will be the best possible.
We will always be looking for more contributors to this group/cause. It doesn't matter what you can do it only matters if you help out and don't ruin the work flow . Developers will always be in need as well as UI/Graphic Designers. People that will help out with documentation would be fantastic so that we will always be well organised. We would like this group to be as diverse as possible.
We want to be a much more mature development group so our releases will be well tested so updates come less often which means your experience will be much better since you do not have to flash so often.
We already have quite a good backing by some new up and coming developers who have quite a nice background and we are hoping for more backing by the rest of the community.
I will be updating this more and more because there are more things to come.
Website: http://www.teamkomin.com/ (Still a little bit to do.)
Come join us in our IRC:
Server: irc.freenode.net
Channel: #teamkomin
WebChat: http://webchat.freenode.net/
Desktop IRC Client:
Linux: Xchat
Windows: Xchat
OS X: Colloquy
Mobile IRC Client: Andchat
P.S.
vbhines allowed me to take over this group because he is much to busy. He will be joining us later when his life is not so hectic and he is happy to help us in any way.
I'm glad to see this taking off!
I'm excited to see how quickly and well this is all coming together.
Good luck guys....will be following your progress.....
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Good luck guys....will be following your progress.....
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i think the team would love to have you on board with theming....
the more the marrier. Typo
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Looking forward to see what you guys produce
Hi everyone, I would really love to help this open source project along! However im afraid my only actually skills are a little bit of photoshop manipulation. I would appreciate it if everyone listed good books or web pages to learn programming from. Its been one of my many dreams to actually develop for android . Thanks in advanced and im glad to see the direction this project is taking
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Captivated like a MoFo
Bye Bye Blackberry. Hello Android.
Like comparing a wife versus a mistress.
dicksteele said:
Bye Bye Blackberry. Hello Android.
Like comparing a wife versus a mistress.
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this post... and your username go so well together, lol.
but on-topic: im really glad to see something finally being done with this, i could definitly take any test roms for a spin.
in order of when someone first posted something about this:
OMG i cant wait!>what happened?>hmm idk if this is gonna work out>this guy is getting everyone pretty pumped>OMG! its actually working!
Im excited. No more ported roms that only work 85% on the captivate.
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Cannot get to #teamkomin on 10.04 with xchat. is the channel up?
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Cannot get to #teamkomin on 10.04 with xchat. is the channel up?
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Yes its up and running. You sure you got the right server and everything?
Alright guys the site is up and running I just need to setup categories for the forum and we should be good to go! Everything should be done by today depending on how fast I finish up homework etc. I am hoping it will be done though.
We will start a lot more development this weekend. Since I wont have anything to do plus I have 2 weeks off.
The plans for this weekend is to setup a hierarchy and actually establish developers etc.
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That's awesome what's the url going to be?
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spartan07 said:
That's awesome what's the url going to be?
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I'm guessing:
http://www.teamkomin.com ? lol
http://www.teamkomin.com/
dang it...
Just posted the website to the OP. Yes its teamkomin.com.
I have a little bit more to do. I need to add custom menus the navigation so the forum will be implemented. The forum page is http://www.teamkomin.com/forum/
I'm going to hop over to irc tomorrow. I'm best on the debugging end, but not yet in apk modding minus the lg launcher below. I've got to crash this evening, but ill be around tomorrow eve.
(Did also try and help xcal with alittle on his kernel and the headset issue, but he ended up cracking it himself... him and I went back and forth with pms for weeks....)
I would love to help however I can. I have some Java and C experience (not a whole lot, i can debug) and extensive web design experience. Let me know.
Hi. Thinking about CPU and the big screen, I think it will be very nice to have Ubuntu in Adam. What do you think?
Also I won't want to lose Eden. So I think we need something like HTC HD2 owners have. (They can start Ubuntu from the SD card like they opening a normal application as far as I saw) What do you think? Can it be possible for our Adam tablet too?
Anything is possible just put ur mind into it
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It should be similar with HTC HD2. The good thing is, their project is open source
can90 said:
It should be similar with HTC HD2. The good thing is, their project is open source
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Please let me know when a good solution is found. I am keen to have it on my Adam.
That way, I don't need to worry about the warranty issue?
I would love to see this too. Really hope that some developer here can port the ubuntu to Adam. Please please please please
Why will you install Ubuntu on Adam? Is the new Maverick Meerkat fully mature on the touchscreen?
A lot of stuff needed here. I'll make a place holder in Development section with some necessary steps and such.
If anyone wants to make this happen though we need Eden Plus to be successful as full root and unlock will be required. Help out with that process first and then we can focus on Ubuntu.
if you install natty dont forget to pin libc6 to 2.12
Ubuntu port on Adam
Check this one if it helps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931214
Also, I saw some activity regarding Ubuntu port to Adam on NIH and tabletroms, some while ago.
Lets hope that this comes together eventually. I'd love to try it out on Adam
Hi, I too am waiting to see the development move ahead. It seems the attention is on Honeycomb these days.
$25 for the person recognized as having ported Ubuntu successfully on the Adam, either here or on TabletROMs.
kinda tired of android
I'm kinda tired of android. I just got an HP Veer and webOS is pretty nice. Only issues I have had so far is posting to message boards like what am doing right now. I got through it but had some trouble. Sorry off topic
I have loaded ubuntu onto my adam following the steps on the dev thread. I can't post there because I new here. Well I'm not new here I just don't post much. I've been reading posts for six months now but rules must be followed! Again off topic.
Ubuntu works. I have a question. I was trying to install a USB ethernet device and ran
Code:
modprobe --list
and came up with
Code:
FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.32.9/modules.dep
I looked and only found a /lib/modules/2.6.32-1208-omap4 directory. I might have screwed up a symlink and I was hoping someone could let me know where the modules.dep file should link to.
Still waiting for tillum, rayman and paronnax to resume their work on ubuntu, especially now that nVIDIA have released the first alpha of Linux4Tegra 12, based on Natty.
I read this post by Tillum on the Ubuntu Methods development thread.
It is very disheartening to note that developers have lost interest, but that was inevitable given the low volumes and disappointment associated with the tablets. On the other hand, quite a few of us users are interested in getting a real operating system on the Adam.
I am sure that any successful port would be easily transferable to other Tegra 2 devices as well, and so efforts won't be wasted.
If we can help in any way, just let us know.
So SGS+ won the ICS -poll on facebook. And DroidXDA promised to port ICS for our device. I am so glad there's finally some progress. I'll post the news here so don't be afraid to subscribe this thread
And remember to support the team by clicking the "ads by nuffnang" on their website: DroidXDA Blogspot
Latest news:
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DroidXDA
SGS+ News :: We almost to booting stage with now fixing the kernel (we hope it will work out) :: do support us by clicking our advert at our blog thanks Have A nice Days
didm't find it on the blog, but anyway. I hope this really will be ported.
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didm't find it on the blog, but anyway. I hope this really will be ported.
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Its not on the blog... its on their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/DroidXDA)
Really looking forward to the port...
IMO no need to open 100 threads about the same subject, and definitely not with such promising/euphoric titles. zack is still working on it and either he or FaqihCici will surely open a dev thread as soon an initial version release is available.
-dedlxe
gonna build a kernel to test ICS for myself to see how it handles what is different beside CPU?
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IMO no need to open 100 threads about the same subject, and definitely not with such promising/euphoric titles. zack is still working on it and either he or FaqihCici will surely open a dev thread as soon an initial version release is available.
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So let me put this straight. We don't even have a dedicated subforum and now you are denying us even a single topic (which will be lost anyway) ?
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Looking forward on this. Hopefully it will be stable.
Any news ?
I dont think here will come anything useable...
Still, if it would work would be best
I feel like they just want to generate clicks on their ads.
Everyday I am reading preannouncemen. Mh, I clicked so often on those ads really thought they would try to make something happen.
value pack released
There is nothing much exciting. Samsung released a value pack for i9001. Installation instruction can be found in this very own forum.
Same crapWiz UI and additional face detection added.
well i thought i'd get this up before source for JB (4.1) drops... I'm looking for a dev willing to let me watch them as they build a ROM and make changes to that ROM... no i don't need to come over your house to do this... I was thinking of a live video stream of your screen as you do the work... if you're willing to allow me to watch and maybe answer a few questions in between, i'm willing to learn!!
i learn really fast if i'm watching someone do it which is why i'm taking this approach rather than trying to read through a bunch of threads on this topic... that stuff basically looks like a foreign language to me... especially when they talk linux stuff lol... i can catch on quickly but i need to SEE IT BEING DONE... not reading and having my brain decode what i just read...
so please pass this thread along... the site i'm looking to use is join.me and it can be viewed by more than one person... so if someone else is willing to jump in on the fun and the dev is cool with it... we all can watch as they work their magic...
preferably someone that's gonna be building on crespo/crespo4g... but i'll take whoever is willing to teach!!
disclaimer: i'm not even looking for a real "expert" on the subject... just someone to do the basic work so i can take notes and then do the stuff myself!!
PM me if you're a dev and willing to help out!! what do you have to lose? nothing really... you're just gonna load the program and let it stream as you do the stuff you normall would do...
sn: it doesn't have to be Jelly Bean... but seeing as source is coming out soon... i figured someone will want to start fresh and build from aosp... that's really where i'd like to start from!!
I'd love to watch too
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umm. the best way to do it is to just follow the step by step guides online. doesnt get much easier than that. you watching isn't going to help when they already have all the software installed
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umm. the best way to do it is to just follow the step by step guides online. doesnt get much easier than that. you watching isn't going to help when they already have all the software installed
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thanks but i have everything i need to build a ROM installed and have already built one from CM9 source... i'm talking about all the other edits and things they do... ie: adding in or removing features of a ROM...
and if you re-read my OP... i said reading this stuff is like learning another language... i'm a visual learner... i need to SEE these things then do them... not read them and try to decode whatever i just read...
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thanks but i have everything i need to build a ROM installed and have already built one from CM9 source... i'm talking about all the other edits and things they do... ie: adding in or removing features of a ROM...
and if you re-read my OP... i said reading this stuff is like learning another language... i'm a visual learner... i need to SEE these things then do them... not read them and try to decode whatever i just read...
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I just happen to work for a company the makes tools to help visual learners.
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Yea I'm willing too. I got a few things going here. Along with ubuntu, sdk, java6, android kitchen. I'm more of a visual learner. I've been constantly researching to point where my brain hurts to think android. I need a break. But I'm willing as well. Some devs out there no even respond to help needed. I would love to watch Fergie716 at work tho.
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My video will be up tomorrow (today) in my MIUI thread. I have everything ready for it. I just had a bit too much to drink tonight (its 450am)
Tomorrow afternoon it'll be up
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I also like to watch.
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I agree with the OP, one thing I think is missing (or at least in my experience hard to find) in the Android ROM community is a set of guides on how to properly do things (branch with repo to make a mod, apply patches from other trees, add prebuilt apks, add source provided apps, integrate su, busybox, creating your own vendor, device, adding your kernel, etc)
It's all scattered all over the net, sure you can figure some of it out but if you lower the barrier of entry people will be able to focus their energy on doing better work somewhere else.
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I agree with the OP, one thing I think is missing (or at least in my experience hard to find) in the Android ROM community is a set of guides on how to properly do things (branch with repo to make a mod, apply patches from other trees, add prebuilt apks, add source provided apps, integrate su, busybox, creating your own vendor, device, adding your kernel, etc)
It's all scattered all over the net, sure you can figure some of it out but if you lower the barrier of entry people will be able to focus their energy on doing better work somewhere else.
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i really couldn't have said it any better!!
i know Fergie usually puts out some great tutorials... i used his stuff when i was learning to theme... so hopefully he delivers on this as well... i would still like to do a live "webinar-type" of training tho if any dev is up for that!!
we can get a time going so that everyone can login at the same time and see what's being done...
I'd also like to see how its done, I would love to be able to cook up some things and then release a ROM to the public. I'm sure it's not easy but I'm willing to take a wack at it
Btw are you guys using pretty powerful computers for building ROMS? Or would you say they're average spec?
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I'd also like to see how its done, I would love to be able to cook up some things and then release a ROM to the public. I'm sure it's not easy but I'm willing to take a wack at it
Btw are you guys using pretty powerful computers for building ROMS? Or would you say they're average spec?
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mine isn't that great tbh... but it manages to put out something... once your setup is correct and you do your first build... the second build of that ROM is usually a lot faster...
i think average would be around quad core with 8GB RAM... that's my guess based on a few devs i've heard from...
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mine isn't that great tbh... but it manages to put out something... once your setup is correct and you do your first build... the second build of that ROM is usually a lot faster...
i think average would be around quad core with 8GB RAM... that's my guess based on a few devs i've heard from...
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I like to learn too. But my pc is just dual core 3.0ghz 4gig ram what do you think?
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I like to learn too. But my pc is just dual core 3.0ghz 4gig ram what do you think?
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it will take longer than some other PC's... but that will still work... i'd guess a few hrs to build a ROM... mine is around those specs and it takes a few hrs on the initial build lol
There should also be a thread for porting, kinda like "chef central" where users could get support on certain issues with their ports.. Over there in chef central the people seem to only help people that are building from source.. there's not too much support for people doing ports which is unfortunate because not everyone is skilled enough to build from source and having ports is what keeps some devices alive... In this thread there would be threads where you could post your logcat if your not getting boot and some of the more experienced porters (like fergie for example) could take a look and point you in the right direction. Also there could be guides and tutorials as how to get certain aspects of the ROM working like HWA, WiMax, MMS/SMS so on and so forth... I think that it would really bring a lot of new life to some devices that don't get the support that they should..
Anyone else agree on that or is just me?
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there's not too much support for people doing ports which is unfortunate because not everyone is skilled enough to build from source and having ports is what keeps some devices alive...
Anyone else agree on that or is just me?
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I agree with the whole sentiment "more people should build things", but not with "aosp is too hard so we should help people do ports". Unless a port is the only way to get a device working, we definitely should focus on making aosp easier to learn if that's part of a problem the porting people are having.
Anyway, I started my own ROM yesterday and might end up making a wiki to document a bunch of things I'm doing. It's a very stock-ish ROM though, so I won't spend much time writing about adding mods other than a few basic ones.
-IF- I do get around to making the wiki, I will post here about it.
As for the computer, I am using a i7 930 (2.8GHz) with 24GB of RAM.
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I agree with the whole sentiment "more people should build things", but not with "aosp is too hard so we should help people do ports". Unless a port is the only way to get a device working, we definitely should focus on making aosp easier to learn if that's part of a problem the porting people are having.
Anyway, I started my own ROM yesterday and might end up making a wiki to document a bunch of things I'm doing. It's a very stock-ish ROM though, so I won't spend much time writing about adding mods other than a few basic ones.
-IF- I do get around to making the wiki, I will post here about it.
As for the computer, I am using a i7 930 (2.8GHz) with 24GB of RAM.
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id like to ask.. is making a rom really difficult.. how much java language knowledge would a person need to have to build from source...?
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id like to ask.. is making a rom really difficult.. how much java language knowledge would a person need to have to build from source...?
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Well, one of the fun things about being a maintainer rather than a developer is that you really don't -need- much knowledge at all.
Everything helps, though. Yesterday I fixed a gcc compilation issue from knowledge of C++ that I acquired over a number of years. It wasn't a hard bug to fix and I could've asked a friend about it instead, but being a programmer lets me get away with fixing mistakes I see in AOSP when it's necessary (it rarely is).
Later, in my kernel compile, I turned on a compilation flag because I knew that a warning (that failed the build due to -Werror) was completely inaccurate. Good luck doing this if you don't know what's a compilation flag, and good luck doing it safely if you're not sure what the warning means and if it is really safe to override it (it often isn't).
If you want to make a ROM and be efficient about it, I think the two most important skills (in order of importance) are the ability to use git and to solve problems. Without a minimum of source control ease, it will be a pain in the ass to add features to your mods or to keep track of changes efficiently (especially when it comes the time to branch off releases and what not). Problem solving is what you do whenever stuff that should work doesn't work. And it's always hard because if it wasn't hard it would be documented already so you wouldn't have the problem.
If you want to build FEATURES for a mod (that is, not repack what others have written), then yes you will need programming knowledge. Java, C and probably C++. Mostly Java for user facing stuff.
great post gparent... that was a wonderful breakdown of how ROM making works... if it's all true (which it sounds like it), then this might be a bit more than i can chew lol... i'm still willing to see someone in action do these things so i have a better understanding of how to put things together and maybe one day i'll take a stab at building my own ROM!!
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24GB of RAM.
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:what: wow, lol
If any other devs come by I'd love to know what setups you guys use for developing too.
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