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Google may come out with its Nexus Tablet. New rumors are saying it could be targeting Kindle Fire.
7-inch, Android 4.0, and <$199
What do you think? I don't think its gonna happen.
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Someone puts out a tablet of decent quality that is a WiFi based 7" form factor with GPS and basic front facing camera and a mic along the lines of a KF and they are going to sell... Heck I would look at it.
I'd be all over that, but it is way to good to be true, so I'm not resting any hopes on it becoming reality.
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It would definately be nice, but if it really does happen it could help on development for our devices as well so I say go for it google.
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Seems too good to be true, but I'd give it a look. I wonder if they'd have to sell it at a loss with those numbers (specs/price).
I could see them wanting to to push Google Books, Google mp3's, the Android Market and other Google services. The problem is to have a "true" Google Experience device it would need GPS(for Google Nav), a camera(for Google Face unlocker and other stuff - probably front and back Cam's(You Tube)) , NFC (for Google Wallet). etc., etc. Overall a fully feature packed high end tablet with cutting edge specs.
It would probably cost them $300 to make it. I just don't see any way they would bother to build it to put it up against the Kindle Fire at $199. I also can't imagine them building a "Google" tablet anyway as it would destroy it's software partners tablet market.
I'd drop my fire in a second if this happened, but I'm not holding my breath.
neilrl79 said:
I'd drop my fire in a second if this happened, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I wouldn't drop my kindle, but I'd definitely be interested in purchasing a Google tablet.
Yeah, not without an otterbox defender case on
A Google Experience tablet, the same price as the Fire?
I'd sell mine on eBay as soon as the "Nexus" tablet was confirmed to be real. If you wait until it's released, the market would be flooded with used Fires, dropping its value significantly.
I would buy this quickly if it had good build quality and didn't have a locked bootloader
I don't really care. I like my Fire and I'm keeping it.
Would definitely buy it but don't believe it would happen.
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Hey guys!
Not to burst everyones' bubble, but the original source of this rumor is a less than reputable news site (DigiTimes). I don't doubt that Google is going to release a Nexus tablet, but it will be more along the lines of what Eric Schmidt said back in December - "In the next six months we plan to market a tablet of the highest quality". The Nexus line has always been Google's premium line, and with that there has always been a premium price tag.
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http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120104PD212.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation...Google-tablet-takes-aim-at-Kindle-Fire-report
^Exactly. There's no way such a device would come in under $200 based on that. I'd still consider one but I bought the KF because of the price and value. I don't see Google topping that ratio.
However, for an early upgrade offer from Verizon and I'm getting a Galaxy Nexus, dammit!
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id buy it...
http://gizmodo.com/5921711/the-google-nexus-tablet-is-here-and-its-out-to-kill-the-kindle-fire
"$200 for the 8 GB model and $250 for 16 GB—that this thing is aiming squarely to extinguish the Fire, as is the big push Google is pressing on sucking up your favorite media"
"built by Asus, the Nexus holds a 1.3Ghz quad-core CPU, 12-core Tegra 3 processor, NFC, and 1 GB of RAM, a 1.2MP front-facing camera, and 8 hours of battery life—all with two different storage variants: 8 GB and 16 GB. That's a damn good level of muscle behind a 7-inch, 1280x800 screen, measuring 198.5 x 120 x 10.45mm."
Why? Do you regret buying a device that has been out for almost a year? If so, you probably get buyer's remorse for every single item you've ever purchased. The tech world moves rather quickly. Rumor has it Amazon will reply with a KF2 by end of July. We'll see. Be happy that we're seeing cheaper and better devices. Don't be a cheapass.
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Why? Do you regret buying a device that has been out for almost a year? If so, you probably get buyer's remorse for every single item you've ever purchased. The tech world moves rather quickly. Rumor has it Amazon will reply with a KF2 by end of July. We'll see. Be happy that we're seeing cheaper and better devices. Don't be a cheapass.
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no i meant to write more but hit finsih.
my girl got me the fire for v -day thinking she was being nice. i never actually wanted it. now this is out and if i change my fire for this i will have to listen to her whining because she doesnt understand tech
On the plus side, I'll begin Android 4.1 development the day the source is dropped by Google.
That's mid July.
Last I checked, the Nexus 7 will ship in about 2-3 weeks.
That's mid July.
So while the Kindle Fire will get blown away on any benchmark when compared to the Nexus 7... It may have Jelly Bean running on it right around the same time Nexus 7 owner's are getting them in their homes.
tevil said:
no i meant to write more but hit finsih.
my girl got me the fire for v -day thinking she was being nice. i never actually wanted it. now this is out and if i change my fire for this i will have to listen to her whining because she doesnt understand tech
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Well, I'm sure she'll understand. You can just get the Nexus 7 and give her the KF ;P
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On the plus side, I'll begin Android 4.1 development the day the source is dropped by Google.
That's mid July.
Last I checked, the Nexus 7 will ship in about 2-3 weeks.
That's mid July.
So while the Kindle Fire will get blown away on any benchmark when compared to the Nexus 7... It may have Jelly Bean running on it right around the same time Nexus 7 owner's are getting them in their homes.
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I love you. Inappropriate, but true.
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Itaintrite said:
Well, I'm sure she'll understand. You can just get the Nexus 7 and give her the KF ;P
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i bought her an ipad 2 for her b-day prior which is why i think she got me this because she knows i dislike apple.
the thought was nice but now im trapped within this device for another year or so at least lol. At least the Devs are good here..... huh "hash" huh huh huh wink wink nudge nudge!
How much do you think I will get if I sell my Kindle Fire to get a nexus 7
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You'll probably get $100-150 off Craigslist but closer to $100 I'm thinking about selling mine too the nexus is badass
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Mines in great condition not a scratch
Do you think I'll get more if I sell my case with it
The case was $45
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lrs421 said:
I love you. Inappropriate, but true.
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If loving Hash is wrong, then I don't wanna be right
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How much do you think I will get if I sell my Kindle Fire to get a nexus 7
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I was thinking the same thing and checked out CL and was stunned. Fire's are hemorrhaging on that site for as low as $75 used and $100 new/unopened. So I'm probably going to pass on this new toy from Google as nice as it is...
I'm pretty confident that besides Skype, there really isn't much I would do on that tablet than I can already do on the Fire (I don't use Bluetooth on it and I don't play games on it...so...).
Not saying my choice is the right one for everyone...but the extra $125 I would have to spend doesn't really justify it for me.
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I was thinking the same thing and checked out CL and was stunned. Fire's are hemorrhaging on that site for as low as $75 used and $100 new/unopened. So I'm probably going to pass on this new toy from Google as nice as it is...
I'm pretty confident that besides Skype, there really isn't much I would do on that tablet than I can already do on the Fire (I don't use Bluetooth on it and I don't play games on it...so...).
Not saying my choice is the right one for everyone...but the extra $125 I would have to spend doesn't really justify it for me.
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I agree, my KF does everything I want a tablet to do except for video chat, though I have my Rezound and laptop for that. Knowing Hash will have Jelly Bean for us about the same time the Nexus 7 is released is awesome. I'll probably upgrade from the KF after a full year of use (early January '13) but I'm in no rush.
I look at it this way, we already have something Nexus 7 buyers don't: a out 8 months use of a good solid Android tablet.
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we are only behind by ffc/bt. still love my fire but I'll prolly get a nexus 7 also just for more fun.
smirkis said:
we are only behind by ffc/bt. still love my fire but I'll prolly get a nexus 7 also just for more fun.
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NFC and GPS too if those matter to you; and the Nexus is sounding quite speedy too.
It's been over half a year since Amazon started selling the current Fire and I'm curious to see what kind of performance, features, and screen sizes their rumored Fire 2 will have
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NFC and GPS too if those matter to you; and the Nexus is sounding quite speedy too.
It's been over half a year since Amazon started selling the current Fire and I'm curious to see what kind of performance, features, and screen sizes their rumored Fire 2 will have
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I just ran the chain fire benchmark and the sun spider browser benchmark on my fire running the sgt7 ROM. I came really close to their numbers for the Nexus, 1757 for spider and 11047 for chain.
It's clear that the linaro tweaks give a huge boost, and Google has probably incorporated those optimizations into jelly bean.
tevil said:
no i meant to write more but hit finsih.
my girl got me the fire for v -day thinking she was being nice. i never actually wanted it. now this is out and if i change my fire for this i will have to listen to her whining because she doesnt understand tech
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Do you have a mother, sister, brother, or even a father that might like this Kindle Fire? (Especially a mother, sister or other female family member.) You can explain to your girl that you really appreciate the thoughtfulness of her getting it for you but you've decide that you really want person XYZ to have it and you've got your eye on device ABC when it comes out. Of course some variation might be needed, but if you put enough thoughtfulness into how you explain it then your girl can hardly argue with you otherwise she'll look like a real *****.... but presentation is key.
What will Jelly Bean give us that we don't already have?
I'm curious.
bbc0 said:
What will Jelly Bean give us that we don't already have?
I'm curious.
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For us (Kindle Fire users)...probably not much.
Am I the only one who hates that the Nexus 7 is just an oversized phone?
Seeing as how the Fire handles ICS way better than my phone, I do not see a legitimate reason to switch to a Nexus 7.
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it seems a key in the KF HD& new KF, when you boot it ，the machine will check the key，if not match， it wont boot.
so i will wait for some guys to crack it when KF HD& NEW KF in the market in the future
it means we can't flash other rom
bournezhang said:
it seems a key in the KF HD& new KF, when you boot it ，the machine will check the key，if not match， it wont boot.
so i will wate some guys to crack it when KF HD& NEW KF in the market in the future
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Your source?
Well there hasn't been a official statement from amazon, but rumor is that there will be a boot loader is in all of the new fires. So yes, if this is true, then the kindle will go into a soft brick that can be unbricked by other means, but t will not boot if the bootliader is not correct.
I hope is isn't the case tho, I preordered the fire HD 8.9inch and wouldn't want to brick it by attempting to put a custom boot loader on my self):
I would seriously consider the consequences of buying one if you have any plans of modifying it. If Amazon's history with our current devices is any indication of what's to come, a lot of people may very well get screwed out of the deal. And if Pokey is correct, and the new KFs have the same OMAP security as the Nook tablet, you might as well give up on it because the new KFs won't have an external SD slot to boot from. You'll get stuck with one crappy, advertisement riddled, non-customizable, crippled, overpriced reader, that's as buggy (if not more) than the original.
I definitely wouldn't buy one in the hopes that it will get modified unless you have the technical know-how to get it done yourself.
That is, IMNSHO of course.
amazon is trying to copy apple. Of course they would do that
it sounds like the boot loader would have to be rewritten some how, and that in its self seems unlikely
kindle fire hd or nexus 7?
if amazon does this they are just trashing their product. i am very tempted to return my nexus 7 which has such bad build quality.
asrr62 said:
if amazon does this they are just trashing their product. i am very tempted to return my nexus 7 which has such bad build quality.
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My Nexus build quality is great.
On topic I was mildly interested in Fire HD just for Prime content and wanting to see if a ROM was developed. No ROM, no way. Will be following the subject.
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if amazon does this they are just trashing their product. i am very tempted to return my nexus 7 which has such bad build quality.
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My build quality is great... not a single problem.
I wish people would stop expecting every product they buy to be 100% perfect.
huniper said:
My build quality is great... not a single problem.
I wish people would stop expecting every product they buy to be 100% perfect.
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And even more so when they're buying a product for around $200 when all the comparable competitor's products are selling for $400+.
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huniper said:
My build quality is great... not a single problem.
I wish people would stop expecting every product they buy to be 100% perfect.
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If it isn't 100% perfect, then I wouldn't call it great quality myself.
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Willieumm said:
And even more so when they're buying a product for around $200 when all the comparable competitor's products are selling for $400+.
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The $200 excuse kinda came to an end when Amazon announced the Fire HD at $200. For Android enthusiasts and XDA readers it's probably not going to be that big a deal, but I believe the Kindle Fire HD will be very popular to the general public.
And it does trump a few of the Nexus 7's weak points.
Better screen with more vibrant colors.
Better wifi with 5GHz and MIMO support.
Better storage capacity at the same prices.
Better speakers.
And HDMI output.
The Nexus 7 has performance and apps on it's side, which are obviously extremely important to many of us.
I'll not replace my Nexus 7, but if the Kindle Fire HD can be rooted and Google Play installed, I just might get one.
PS... And B&N isn't done yet. They supposedly have something coming soon too. Microsoft invested $200 million with them, perhaps some kind of $200 Windows tablet? They promise a revolutionary screen and they've generally included micro SD slots so far too, hope that continues. I just hope they get away from that raised plastic bezel, so annoying with apps that use off screen swipes.
chrisbd1 said:
My Nexus build quality is great.
On topic I was mildly interested in Fire HD just for Prime content and wanting to see if a ROM was developed. No ROM, no way. Will be following the subject.
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huniper said:
My build quality is great... not a single problem.
I wish people would stop expecting every product they buy to be 100% perfect.
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Willieumm said:
And even more so when they're buying a product for around $200 when all the comparable competitor's products are selling for $400+.
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If it isn't 100% perfect, then I wouldn't call it great quality myself.
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The $200 excuse kinda came to an end when Amazon announced the Fire HD at $200. For Android enthusiasts and XDA readers it's probably not going to be that big a deal, but I believe the Kindle Fire HD will be very popular to the general public.
And it does trump a few of the Nexus 7's weak points.
Better screen with more vibrant colors.
Better wifi with 5GHz and MIMO support.
Better storage capacity at the same prices.
Better speakers.
And HDMI output.
The Nexus 7 has performance and apps on it's side, which are obviously extremely important to many of us.
I'll not replace my Nexus 7, but if the Kindle Fire HD can be rooted and Google Play installed, I just might get one.
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Seriously? I think we're getting WAAAAY off topic here.
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Seriously? I think we're getting WAAAAY off topic here.
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You are right. Just hard not to respond to the comments brought up.
Bezos said he doesn't care if you root
I read on Engadget after the announcement that Engadget asked Bezos about people rooting and running custom ROM's. Bezos' response was that as long as your still buying from Amazon, he doen't care. So, I guess we'll see. Mine has already made it to the UPS Distro Center in my city and it got there a little after Noon today. I should have it in the morning!!!! As a Student Prime member, I would love it if we could get rid of the ads without paying the $15.
The reason I bought the original fire is because i wanted to root it. The fact is, the stock kindle fire is crap if you're a power user.
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Confirmed, Fire 2 and Fire HD 7" have signed bootloaders.
pokey9000 said:
Confirmed, Fire 2 and Fire HD 7" have signed bootloaders.
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Has anyone tested to see if the factory cable still works?
soupmagnet said:
Has anyone tested to see if the factory cable still works?
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yes，factory cable still work.
but i don't know flash what kind of bootloader,because when i flash u-boot of kindle fire 1 ,it can't boot normally
The bootloader is one thing. Custom recovery is a completely different animal. Is the same OMAP security applied to the stock recovery?
I was thinking about buying an 8.9 inch one along with my 7" one. But, until this boot loader stuff is figured out. No way.
bournezhang said:
yes，factory cable still work.
but i don't know flash what kind of bootloader,because when i flash u-boot of kindle fire 1 ,it can't boot normally
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Probably doubtful, but does anyone have the bootloader, recovery, system images for the Fire HD 7" yet?
I don't need it, but wouldn't mind having it I do have a factory cable for my original Fire and multitude of Motorola phones...
I saw some crazy article about the nexus 8, yes 8, and 10 being released on black Friday. Thoughts?
Kurupt22 said:
I saw some crazy article about the nexus 8, yes 8, and 10 being released on black Friday. Thoughts?
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Yea, got in before they lock this thread. :highfive:
Kurupt22 said:
I saw some crazy article about the nexus 8, yes 8, and 10 being released on black Friday. Thoughts?
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Nexus 8? Pshaw. I'm waiting for the Nexus-6. I hear Tyrell is supporting them for four years instead of just 18 months.
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http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/google-nexus-rumors-include-the-release-of-the-8-and-10-tablets/
Doesn't make sense, the aforementioned article mentions the Nexus 8 to have an 8" display running 1920x1200 with 8GB memory, those specs just seem like scattered rumors pieced together.
Oh well, we shall see.
There will be no more NEXUS devices released this year. There is NO new Nexus 10 & the Nexus 8 is only a conceptual device that has been submitted to Google by two manufacturers, with a third supposedly also working on a conceptual device.
When any of those devices are anywhere near a release, you will see VERIFIABLE evidence. Like FCC filings that actually make sense, not just someone blankly stating their is some mystery FCC filing without giving any evidence. You will also see things like service manuals & warranty documentation leak out. This happens with every device Google, or any Android partner, has ever made. There is actual supporting evidence, just like the Nexus 4 & 5 & the 7 & the 7 2013. So far there has been nothing even close to legitimate pointing to any of these devices being anywhere near a release. Just rumor, speculation & a few FAKED screen grabs.
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There will be no more NEXUS devices released this year. There is NO new Nexus 10 & the Nexus 8 is only a conceptual device that has been submitted to Google by two manufacturers, with a third supposedly also working on a conceptual device.
When any of those devices are anywhere near a release, you will see VERIFIABLE evidence. Like FCC filings that actually make sense, not just someone blankly stating their is some mystery FCC filing without giving any evidence. You will also see things like service manuals & warranty documentation leak out. This happens with every device Google, or any Android partner, has ever made. There is actual supporting evidence, just like the Nexus 4 & 5 & the 7 & the 7 2013. So far there has been nothing even close to legitimate pointing to any of these devices being anywhere near a release. Just rumor, speculation & a few FAKED screen grabs.
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I would love to see a Nexus 8 device released, but I'm afraid you're right. If Google was going to release one, they would have to do it now in order to take advantage of holiday sales. There is no good evidence for one, at this point, and the door is pretty much closed for this season.
I went from an iPad Mini to a Nexus 7. I think 7" is a better size than 8".
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I went from an iPad Mini to a Nexus 7. I think 7" is a better size than 8".
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nexus 5 is out.
We already have nexus 7.
if Google releases nexus 6 next year.
What will be name of the next nexus phone?
nijom said:
nexus 5 is out.
We already have nexus 7.
if Google releases nexus 6 next year.
What will be name of the next nexus phone?
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Unless the phone size increases a whole bunch, next year's phone will be Nexus 5 (2014). Just like this year's Nexus 7.
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There will be no more NEXUS devices released this year. There is NO new Nexus 10 & the Nexus 8 is only a conceptual device that has been submitted to Google by two manufacturers, with a third supposedly also working on a conceptual device.
When any of those devices are anywhere near a release, you will see VERIFIABLE evidence. Like FCC filings that actually make sense, not just someone blankly stating their is some mystery FCC filing without giving any evidence. You will also see things like service manuals & warranty documentation leak out. This happens with every device Google, or any Android partner, has ever made. There is actual supporting evidence, just like the Nexus 4 & 5 & the 7 & the 7 2013. So far there has been nothing even close to legitimate pointing to any of these devices being anywhere near a release. Just rumor, speculation & a few FAKED screen grabs.
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What do you think of the LG - v510 then? It isn't g pad lte since that exists already: v507L.
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Could just as easily be an LTE version for a different region, or even a carrier specific version. Again, no proof, just speculation & I seriously doubt even if it were a Nexus device that we'd see as thing this year.
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Yeah, I also think Google will lauch the N10 somtime later this month
For Christmas Holiday, you know.
But I also believe "7" is better than "8". While if you go for 10 or above, then iPad is a better choice.
For the cost I would not say the iPad is better then the nex 10.
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Richieboy67 said:
For the cost I would not say the iPad is better then the nex 10.
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Dude, I HATE apple, but I will tell you flat out, hands down, the iPad & even the new KF HDX, both blow the Nexus 10 away handily. I use the N7 2013 as my primary, but have sold the N10 for an HDX 8.9 just as a media consumption device.
Samsung's processor & GPU is just inferior to the SD800 & adreno 330 & struggles with many events on the N10.
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That's so obviously a fake render. No nexus cutout on the back? An Android 4.3 logo printed on it?
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Dude, I HATE apple, but I will tell you flat out, hands down, the iPad & even the new KF HDX, both blow the Nexus 10 away handily. I use the N7 2013 as my primary, but have sold the N10 for an HDX 8.9 just as a media consumption device.
Samsung's processor & GPU is just inferior to the SD800 & adreno 330 & struggles with many events on the N10.
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Wow, I just looked up the specs on that KF, what a beast!
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Dude, I HATE apple, but I will tell you flat out, hands down, the iPad & even the new KF HDX, both blow the Nexus 10 away handily. I use the N7 2013 as my primary, but have sold the N10 for an HDX 8.9 just as a media consumption device.
Samsung's processor & GPU is just inferior to the SD800 & adreno 330 & struggles with many events on the N10.
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I said "for the cost". The Ipad has drawbacks as well considering it does not use Android. I guess it just depends on the user as well. I know many people that have the Nex 10 and have never mentioned any "struggling" issues but again it depends on the user and the cost. While the Ipad may perform better and have a better display you will pay steeply for it. For me the extra cost just is not worth it plus I really can never go back to a system like that. I would honestly rather have a customizable system like Android with a little bit lesser performance, lower cost than have an expensive, fast device that I cannot really customize.
Just my opinion though bro.
For the cost, yep. The KF HDX is cheaper than the N10 was when I looked at the Play Store last week. As for performance issues, just check out Google's product & bug forum, or even the threads here. Horrible touch screen issues for many.
I use a N7 for most things & found myself using the 10" tabs for media consumption. I've had or have nearly every decent 8" to 10.1" tablet made in the last few years & the HDX is by far the best performing tablet I've used. Once gapps are possible, well my large tab search for near perfection is over for a while. Telling you, the SD 800 & Adreno 330 combo is amazing.
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I really doubt it.
Nexus phones are usually 2 years apart. Maybe the nexus 5 got released a bit before the 2 year mark.
Tablets are usually staggered 1 year apart. Nexus 7 - Nexus 10 - Nexus 7 2013 and next is the Nexus 10 2014 edition.
I just wish there would be more apps that would more geared toward tablets and there would be more productivity involved. For example the stock calendar is absolutely horrible and there is nothing that really fits tablet and my fancy on google play.
Do you guys believe this device will get much love from ROM developers? I love to tinker with my devices and don't want to be stuck with something that has no development?
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No one can answer this only you. It could be tomorrow or next year.. sorry
Right now I wouldn't, I've got it and it's just sitting there collecting dust till there is a rom. No Google on an Android tablet is absurd.
here's my take as a lay person
Most of the people who want hardcore development will opt for the slightly underpowered, but very capable, Nexus 7. While the Kindle fire HDX 8.9 offers marvelous hardware, with a top of the line display, it has a locked, and guarded bootloader, which will be tough to crack. While it has already been rooted, and their is safestrap, roms will be limited until the bootloader is cracked. Kernel flashing will obviously be impossible without this. The root capability opens the window, but the door is still closed. I have the 7", and I do enjoy flashing roms, customizing, and tinkering simply for the sake of learning, but I don't have lofty expectations of the devs. While they are wonderful, and make an uncalled for effort to make every device perform at it's peak, I cannot see a locked device getting an abundant amount of attention, when a similarly capable, same-gen piece of hardware came out offering exactly what you already want. You may need to look at other similarly priced 10" tablets, that offer the same hardware, or close, that can be unlocked with a simple click, rather than 100s of man hours, and a bit of hope.
I was going to purchase the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 but Office Depot had a great deal on the 7" Kindle Fire HDX. $179.99 plus you get a $20.00 gift card.
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aaronuser said:
Do you guys believe this device will get much love from ROM developers? I love to tinker with my devices and don't want to be stuck with something that has no development?
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I've been side-loading my Google Apps, and I'm quite happy with mine so far. I say go ahead and get one. You can always return it within a month.
My advise is for you to buy it.
I already rooted it and, thanks to @andoidcowboy tutorial, i got all my google apps working.
I live outside US and I am able to stream all PRIME content (movies, series, etc) using some DNS...
Hardware is really awesome, tab is really comfortable... i just love the darn thing! only thing i regret is not buying the 64gb one...
If you want real custom ROM's like CyanogenMOD or SlimRom's, then keep looking elsewhere. Because Kindle isn't getting them ANYTIME soon.
If nobody can flash one of these ROM's on a current release of the Galaxy S4 AT&T phone then you can believe the HDX isn't going to be any better.
Only the first two releases of S4 can flash AOSP. Any S4 released in the last 2-4 months is screwed.
All I'm hoping for its maybe a stock rom debloated . Google play . And can still access my prime features
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At this point no. Most Dev's want to go after the easier targets that do not have locked bootloaders. Amazon has no one to blame but themselves if they fail (again) with this device.
I was this close to buying one, but after using the Nexus 5 and seeing how life is so much easier with unlocked bootloader, I'm never going back to a device that is not a Nexus or GPE. If I'm going be someone's b****, it better come with more benefits than Amazon Prime.
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Amazon has no one to blame but themselves if they fail (again) with this device.
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I'm not sure Amazon failed in the past with their Kindle Fires. Failed in the eyes of Devs maybe but not to normal consumers.
Which apps are compatible with rooted Kindle fire HDX 8.9
Hi there!
I'm thinking about getting the kindle 8.9 for its awesome hardware, but I'm concerned about what apps are available? Assuming I root the device, can I side load ANY android app? Or only the handful that I see threads about on this forum? (e.g., google apps).
If I'm limited to a handful of apps that's probably a deal breaker.
Thanks in advance!
HoOnZ said:
I'm not sure Amazon failed in the past with their Kindle Fires. Failed in the eyes of Devs maybe but not to normal consumers.
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Normal? So your saying that people here are not? They are strange?
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Engreeks1 said:
Hi there!
I'm thinking about getting the kindle 8.9 for its awesome hardware, but I'm concerned about what apps are available? Assuming I root the device, can I side load ANY android app? Or only the handful that I see threads about on this forum? (e.g., google apps).
If I'm limited to a handful of apps that's probably a deal breaker.
Thanks in advance!
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You can sideload. Some apps (like ones on Fdroid) need Root. The troublesome part is finding apks (Android version of installer file for app). You can use a back up tool on another device or search the net for apks (that are not Trojan/Virus modded).
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bigbrown said:
I was this close to buying one, but after using the Nexus 5 and seeing how life is so much easier with unlocked bootloader, I'm never going back to a device that is not a Nexus or GPE. If I'm going be someone's b****, it better come with more benefits than Amazon Prime.
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I have Prime, so may hold it for a bit. If the Gtab 10.1 2014 drops in price (by at least $100) I'll get rid of this.
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At this point no. Most Dev's want to go after the easier targets that do not have locked bootloaders. Amazon has no one to blame but themselves if they fail (again) with this device.
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I kinda disagree on this.
I agree on the Devs hitting the easier targets, but going by the specs and the price I think it's fairly clear (happy to be proved wrong lol) that Amazon are selling the HDX's at minimal profit and are relying on revenue from sales of their wares through pushing it massively through the Kindle OS.
Amazon obviously know that an unlocked bootloader == user removing Amazon specific features == lost revenue for them.
If it does fail it won't be due to the locked bootloader, IMHO. Although, I do feel they blew 1 toe off by not at least giving you the option of using Google Services on it, many apps require this and they could still bombard us with Amazon goodies.
Maybe, on the logic above, they could have released an unlocked version for a premium, but I for one would not have considered the Kindle HDX, regardless of the specs, if the price was more than a Nexus 7 2013.
CZ Eddie said:
If you want real custom ROM's like CyanogenMOD or SlimRom's, then keep looking elsewhere. Because Kindle isn't getting them ANYTIME soon.
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Why not? Literally every single kindle fire has a custom firmware or port to it. It seems like you're pulling this "kindles aren't getting custom roms" out of your ass.Hell, i've got kit-kat 4.4 running on the original kindle fire.
I think the company that makes the kindle Foxcon/Asus/LG or whoever should have released a cosemetically altered version and sell it as a GPE. I would gladly pay $50 more for a unsubsidized version that isn't locked down. From what I read, the HW meets or exceeds Apple products.
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I kinda disagree on this.
I agree on the Devs hitting the easier targets, but going by the specs and the price I think it's fairly clear (happy to be proved wrong lol) that Amazon are selling the HDX's at minimal profit and are relying on revenue from sales of their wares through pushing it massively through the Kindle OS.
Amazon obviously know that an unlocked bootloader == user removing Amazon specific features == lost revenue for them.
If it does fail it won't be due to the locked bootloader, IMHO. Although, I do feel they blew 1 toe off by not at least giving you the option of using Google Services on it, many apps require this and they could still bombard us with Amazon goodies.
Maybe, on the logic above, they could have released an unlocked version for a premium, but I for one would not have considered the Kindle HDX, regardless of the specs, if the price was more than a Nexus 7 2013.
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Little to no profit on the base models but they are getting more on the higher storage models. The real problem is that such powerful hardware is gimped by the OS locked to the device. Truly a waste. And it can fail by word of mouth as well. Folks ask the "techie" in the family what to get and this can easily be shot down as an option thanks to the lack of options. Everyone I know has a custom Rom or at least rooted on their hardware. Especially since they had me do it.
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Little to no profit on the base models but they are getting more on the higher storage models. The real problem is that such powerful hardware is gimped by the OS locked to the device. Truly a waste. And it can fail by word of mouth as well. Folks ask the "techie" in the family what to get and this can easily be shot down as an option thanks to the lack of options. Everyone I know has a custom Rom or at least rooted on their hardware. Especially since they had me do it.
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I couldn't decide to be fair, so I took the choice out of my hands and just gave the GF a choice of what to get me between the HDX and a Nexus 7.
She obviously chose the HDX for me and I can't say I'm disappointed.
I do have a Nexus 4 though so I can mod that to my hearts content. Her logic was why would I need 2 devices to do the same thing?
Fair call...