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Newbies vs. Experts EVO - Froyo Root

I am a newbie, unlike many of you experts. I read all through out the forums and honestly 75% of this is foreign language. Please, for the people that are unfamiliar with the android system, fill us in.
most recent forum: 747598
***please note that it does not say whether EVO is supported or not.***
I bought my EVO early July and was anxiously awaiting the OTA update August 3rd. I downloaded it and now I am working with Froyo. I keep reading posts saying that it is both impossible and possible to root Froyo....but I have no idea how to even start. I searched the web and found some very easy YouTube videos on how to do this pre-Froyo.
I want to either start all over from complete scratch and format the EVO or would like to root this phone. It has been more than a week and I know a root exists for this, it is just a matter of where to look.
How do you know all the language with these phones and what it means....I want this phone to be the best it can be, but I am feeling like I am in the prehistoric age.
I am not 100% stupid, I do know to take apart my computer and format the entire hard drive. I do know how to change my fuel filter on my car. I do know how to cure a hangover.... Rooting my phone should not be this hard, especially since it is legal now.... Please help!

There is a way to root Froyo just no one has found the exploit yet or they haven't shared it with us

thank you. hopefully sooner than later....also, do you know how to get "verified" to put links in posts/forums? I keep getting " Hi Noonski....
How do I get my account verified so that I can put actual website links in my posts/forums? I keep getting this message.
1. To prevent spam to the forums, new users are not permitted to post outside links in their messages. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed.
2. To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed."

jetjock007 said:
thank you. hopefully sooner than later....also, do you know how to get "verified" to put links in posts/forums? I keep getting " Hi Noonski....
How do I get my account verified so that I can put actual website links in my posts/forums? I keep getting this message.
1. To prevent spam to the forums, new users are not permitted to post outside links in their messages. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed.
2. To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed."
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You will be able to post links and such after you get enough posts. I'm not sure of the exact number.

No way yet...
You might want to keep track of the sticky in the QA section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747495

jetjock007 said:
I am a newbie, unlike many of you experts. I read all through out the forums and honestly 75% of this is foreign language. Please, for the people that are unfamiliar with the android system, fill us in.
most recent forum: 747598
***please note that it does not say whether EVO is supported or not.***
I bought my EVO early July and was anxiously awaiting the OTA update August 3rd. I downloaded it and now I am working with Froyo. I keep reading posts saying that it is both impossible and possible to root Froyo....but I have no idea how to even start. I searched the web and found some very easy YouTube videos on how to do this pre-Froyo.
I want to either start all over from complete scratch and format the EVO or would like to root this phone. It has been more than a week and I know a root exists for this, it is just a matter of where to look.
How do you know all the language with these phones and what it means....I want this phone to be the best it can be, but I am feeling like I am in the prehistoric age.
I am not 100% stupid, I do know to take apart my computer and format the entire hard drive. I do know how to change my fuel filter on my car. I do know how to cure a hangover.... Rooting my phone should not be this hard, especially since it is legal now.... Please help!
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OK - Some basic tips;
First thing you should know is that all questions should be asked in the Q&A Section.
Second - read the stickies. The first sticky in the Q&A section is a thread with the title "There is NO KNOWN WAY to Root 2.2 Yet", so there you go.
Third - read the stickies. There's one for the EVO wiki, and another in the dev section for useful threads. Both of these should point a beginner in the right direction.
Fourth - read the stickies. There's one in this very section on "how to use these forums" which explains how to search.
Fifth - learn how to search, and use it often. Use it before asking a question.
I mean no disrespect with any of the above, but using the 5 tips I laid out above, anyone should be able to learn the language (so to speak) and be able to ask relevant and informed questions in the Q&A section, to the extent that they will understand the answers provided.
And I have no idea how to change the fuel filter in my car.

[Q] New purchase tips & tricks

Hello,
I think this question could serve as a guide as well. I am sorry if a question along the same line has been asked, I searched the forum thoroughly to no avail.
Here is my question. I just bought an Atrix (my first ever smartphone) and I am relatively tech-savvy. I would like to know:
- What are the MUSTs for a new Atrix for getting the most out of the phone and optimizing performance, e.g., remove at&t apps, install this app, remove that app, etc..
- What are the SHOULDs ...
- What are the CANs ...
These, of course, are relatively subjective words, and I am sure varies from person to person, but I am willing to listen to anyone's comments.
For example, I have no idea if rooting is a must/should or a can, as I do not know the precise advantages since it's my first ever smartphone.
All your answers are appreciated. Thanks a lot.
tuncay

Oh well, I used to flash the **** out of my old tilt 2... sleepless nights, sweat, almost bricked it couple of times. I don't have time for that anymore. That's why I choose Atrix over Inspire. I didn't even rooted yet. No need to tether here. Pretty much everything is on the market is enough for me. If you want a toy, or for hobby, I would return it and go for Inspire. If you stll want to keep it, then go to app and development section, you won't get bored.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

Grats on ur new Atrix! If you kindly search or browse thru the Atrix section you will find all the sticky & the answer's that previous new owner's have also inquired on.
Give urself a fair amount of time to browse thru the exciting projects & accomplishments that ur fellow Atrix users have shared. I also learned this way and searching thru the threads was very educational.
Good luck & Happy hunting!
Sent from my -=[ Atrix ]=- using Tapatalk

I would say that rooting is a must. Motoblur has some nice tricks, such as accessing the Manage Apps page directly from the menu button, but overall, you probably want to be able to freeze all the bloatware with Titanium Backup, and replace the launcher with Launcher Pro or Go Launcher Ex. It'll result in a much smoother running device. You'll probably notice right now that swiping through your home screens is somewhat choppy. This will fix that.
As was mentioned, check out the dev forum. I'm also a new Android user, and it was a lot of help!

ABC how to root,install rom.

I did my first post to day after many hours reading about how to root.
I made it with out help,but I was not confident.
I got a privat message Where someone aked how I did it. I have to say " Don't ask me".
The reason is that there seem to be a lot of traps along the way.
I read about one metod and started that,but then there was a warning and another suggestion. Then I went for the next one and again another suggestion.
I gave up and just picked the one with largest tread .
The things I'm wondering about are . Is there a sticky about how to step by step do it ,or do everybody need to read a lot and still be unsure about whitch way to go for?
Normally one way is better.
Is it not possible to concentrate it around one way?
There are lots of treads about how to do it but I'm confused about the warnings " if yod did it that way you can't use this file ,but need to look around for a file that you can use"
I did put in a new kernel and want to try a complete Rom,but I don't know if I can use a kk9 rom for my phone. There was a warning about use CF ready or made Rom ??
Is there,or if not, why is there not a sticky about how to tweak the easiest and most widely used way for beginners in this forum?
Then more people dear to start. More people is more money to those who make the files.
If there are many ways and conflicts,maybe a link to the compatible way can be posted together with the rom,kernel or what type of file that's posted.
Please correct me if I'm the only one that feels that there are to many choices for nearly the same thing.
Maybe I'm spoiled from the way the Norwegian apple forum was build for beginners to professionals.
Or maybe it's not a standard for whats the best way.

+1 on this!!

Yeah after paying what I paid and probably would have to deal with a nightmare of a return I'm not about to root or anything until its been run through it's paces a million times. Actually since there don't seem to be any solid ROMS yet I have not desire to anyway.
Also I rooted and unrooted my ATT Galaxy S2 a bunch of times and it ended up not able to connect voice calls for some reason. Had to return it. Not sure if it was related but I don't want to risk it with the Note.

I used to enjoy the video's explaining the Jailbreaking process from start to finish(iPhone). Has anyone seen a video guide for rooting/Roms? The only experience I have with Rom flashing is from the Windows mobile days, where as easy as jailbreaking(easier infact)

Patosbuddy said:
Is there a sticky about how to step by step do it ,or do everybody need to read a lot and still be unsure about whitch way to go for?
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Hi there!
I found it here on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371070
Within it is a (Great) review of the Note. It is IMO worth to read it through, although it is very long.
Also, the same guys at AndroidNZ made a step by step Rooting guide, with a video (I did not watch it yet, because of corp. firewall ) You can find that here: http://www.androidnz.net/2011/11/at-your-own-risk-how-to-root-your.html
Happy rooting!

i have rooted my phone so how can i install rom ... Gnote cant use rom manager and it is such pain

Yes it can. I haven't done it myself yet, but search through a couple of threads and around 293 posts, and you'll find it
Ok, just kidding. Here's the link (scroll down to the bottom of the first post) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360

BazookaAce said:
Yes it can. I haven't done it myself yet, but search through a couple of threads and around 293 posts, and you'll find it
Ok, just kidding. Here's the link (scroll down to the bottom of the first post) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
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we need to request this post to be stick so that it makes easy for newbie like me

Comprehensive source of rooting info?

Is there a FAQ somewhere that comprehensively covers most of what's involved as a part of rooting the Nexus 7? Or rooting any Android device that would cover the N7? I do dev, but am new to Android.
I'm not even referring to the actual rooting process. Info for that's all over the net. My questions are more along the lines of things like:
What exactly does it mean when people say that rooting will erase the drive? Somehow, I think that's probably exaggerated. Does it really all but reformat? Does it leave the OS intact, other than unlocking and rooting and just wipe out the apps I've installed and my settings and data? Or whatever happens.
Do I have to literally reinstall all my apps from Play or wherever? Or can I copy to a computer and just copy it back again after rooting?
If the rooting process deletes all my apps, this has no effect on what Play lists as "My Android Apps," does it?
Given these questions, what's the state of the device right after I finish rooting? Is it display sort of what it was out of the box?
If I need warranty service and unroot, would Google know at a glance that it had ever been rooted? What restores it to its original state? Doesn't unrooting just remove root access and lock the device?
I'm not here to ask about this ROM or that, but why use another ROM? Would that completely replace Jelly Bean? If it does, how to I get back to Jelly Bean?
Does the Nexus Root Toolkit work on Windows XP? (I have that and a Mac. I’m running the Win 8 preview in a Virtual Box VM, but getting it to consistently recognize the N7 has been problematic. On the Mac, the Android file manager tends to drift in and out. It's possible that I have issues with my N7 USB port.)
I realize there are all noob questions, but that's where I am. I'm sure I could come up with plenty more and I'm sure plenty of others have and have had similar questions. But most of the answers I'm finding don't address nuances, they're just black and white, sweeping terms that don't really get where I'm looking to go.
I'd appreciate answers to these questions or pointers to good places to find out without having to wade through dozens of topics hoping to find some piece of what I want to know.

I might be able to answer some of your questions, give me a pm and I would love to answer them (it would be hard to put them all in a post)
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

I posted this a while back. It should be a pretty good hub of information.
Hope that helps! If you have any other questions that this doesn't answer - either ask here or check google. Just make sure you read everything you possibly can - the more knowledge the better.

Lots of stuff there. Thanks. I'll take a good look.
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I posted this a while back. It should be a pretty good hub of information.
Hope that helps! If you have any other questions that this doesn't answer - either ask here or check google. Just make sure you read everything you possibly can - the more knowledge the better.
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Stevenator21 said:
I might be able to answer some of your questions, give me a pm and I would love to answer them (it would be hard to put them all in a post)
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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PM sent, though my outbox doesn't show it. Anything you can share, Stevenator21, would be greatly appreciated.

How do I root?

Before people start *****ing about this being a "n00b" question, hear me out.
This forum absolutely SUCKS for learning how to actually do the things that are mentioned here all the time. I've been following this forum every since a I got a tf101 in December, and yet I STILL have yet to see one up-to-date and accurate description on how to root. The current 'how to root' post dates back to December.
I had a tf101 for nine months now and still haven't rooted simply because I've never seen an easy tutorial on how to do so.
Same thing for installing CWM, or for flashing a rom. I've always wanted to do so, and I really want to flash a JellyBean rom today, but I realized that every relevant post is either outdated or not helpful at all.
Please take this as constructive criticism and not as a n00b complaining or asking questions. XDA is a great place with great people, but every single "READ THIS FIRST" post or "BEGINNERS LOOK HER" thread is so convoluted and messy that it's impossible to glean any information from them. Most of them link to twenty other threads that are just as confusing.
I hope this makes sense. I guess I am now obliged to say: "sorry for the noob question"
Thanks,
wontstoptalking

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688012
Should explain it all.
A little tip to make it easier if your using the XDA app change it to 50 posts per page instead of 10 makes everything easier to take in.
Edit after you get root and recovery id recommend you install goo manager from the app store and install TWRP recovery because using touch trumps key presses on a tablet
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium

Thanks. Sorry if my OP seems a little harsh or frustrated, but it IS frustrating when you ask a pretty simple question in a thread ("how do I root?") and you get people saying USE THE SEARCHBAR! Which gives you two types of threads: tons of threads telling you how to root in tons of different and potentially outdated ways, and then tons of threads ASKING about how to root (which only get redirected to the searchbar again).
I mean, there are just so many old threads and alternate ways to do things that it's nearly impossible to just figure it out on your own, even with the searchbar.
I've always enjoyed the "always up-to-date" Lifehacker posts, like "The Always Up-To-Date Guide to Jailbreaking"
http://lifehacker.com/5771943/the-a...jailbreaking-your-iphone-ipod-touch-and-ipad-[ios-511]
(link for reference)
Because currently the "READ THIS" posts are really outdated or not very helpful.
Anyway, thanks!
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Ok, so I'm following the EasyFlasher instructions, and there are things I don't understand. What USB mode do I use for the transformer? Do I enable usb debugging? How do I install the APX drivers? I mean, you don't have to answer these, I'm just saying that a definitive guide that is always up to date and consistent would be nice. I'm sitting at the menu that says "flash" afraid to do anything because the thread says that ADB drivers are required, but even when I tried to manually install the drivers it wouldn't work. Do I need the SDK downloaded to do this? That's what one thread seems to indicate, but not the other. This is why XDA drives me crazy sometimes.

Not to jump into your thread too much, but you sound just like I did when I first showed up here wanting to root my tablet. I'd become pretty comfortable rooting my phone and previous tablet but this once had me stumped for a while. The one that worked for me (and made sense to me when when I used it) was viperMOD PrimeTime v4.6 | Auto Root/Unroot/Busybox/CMW Flash. In fact I just mentioned this to some other guy in a different thread. I couldn't get any of the others to work for me but this one did.
My tablet was just updated to ICS (from Asus) when I did it (if that matters).
Rooting is the hardest part in my opinion. Once you have root and a recovery installed flashing to another ROM, or even another recovery, is pretty easy - wipe your caches, select a zip file and reboot. Tada. Rinse and repeat when the 'new thing' comes out.
Rooting is something people usually only do once, then move on so it's generally not a topic people want to revisit, or maybe even remember doing in detail so don't be too put off by XDA's brisk attitude in the General Forums.

grgmre said:
Not to jump into your thread too much, but you sound just like I did when I first showed up here wanting to root my tablet. I'd become pretty comfortable rooting my phone and previous tablet but this once had me stumped for a while. The one that worked for me (and made sense to me when when I used it) was viperMOD PrimeTime v4.6 | Auto Root/Unroot/Busybox/CMW Flash. In fact I just mentioned this to some other guy in a different thread. I couldn't get any of the others to work for me but this one did.
My tablet was just updated to ICS (from Asus) when I did it (if that matters).
Rooting is the hardest part in my opinion. Once you have root and a recovery installed flashing to another ROM, or even another recovery, is pretty easy - wipe your caches, select a zip file and reboot. Tada. Rinse and repeat when the 'new thing' comes out.
Rooting is something people usually only do once, then move on so it's generally not a topic people want to revisit, or maybe even remember doing in detail so don't be too put off by XDA's brisk attitude in the General Forums.
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Thanks a ton for this. I'll look into it. I'm actually gonna try to sell my 101 first, nab a good $250 so I can get a Nexus 7. If I get no buyers, I'll go through with the rooting and flashing (I want to try selling first because if I brick it or something... then I'll have nothing to sell haha).
Again, I apologize if my OP was a bit of an angry, noobish rant... I know that XDA generally hates those. But I do think it is a real problem that it's hard to learn anything on this forum if you have 0 experience to begin with. So for those who helped me out, thanks very much.
I know that since the original ICS update, there were one or two other updates (trying to fix the rebooting problem, I think) and I'm wondering if your root solution will still work for these new updates. I guess you wouldn't know since it doesn't affect you anymore, so I'm just throwing this question out there.